Panthers Fall to Bears 34 - 29
by Jaxon on Oct 2, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
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PrintThe Panthers had their chances in this game but once again too often settled for FG attempts once in the red zone. It's hard to pin this one on any phase of the game though. The defense was gashed repeatedly early but only gave up 13 points until the garbage TD at the end.. Special teams gave up a TD on a punt return and Cam Newton threw his first pick 6. No I think all three phases of the game share in this loss Panther fans.
Here's some recap quick hits:
- QB Cam Newton finished 27 for 46 for 374 yards 1 TD, 1 INT but two rushing TDs. Newton is our most reliable scoring play inside the 3 yard line
- WR Steve Smith had 8 receptions for 181 yards... but most were in the first half
- WR Legs Naanee seemed to have a bazzilion passes thrown his way and he caught three of them for 18 yards
- The Panther running game showed improvement with 134 yards between RBs Williams (10 for 82) and Stewart (8 for 52)
- SS Charles Godfrey got his first INT of the young season on top of 5 tackles and a pass defensed...more after the jump...
- DE Charles Johnson got a sack for the 4th straight game.
- LB Dan Conner led the Panthers with 8 tackles but the Panther defense gave up 205 yards rushing to Bears RB Matt Forte
- The Panthers committed 8 penalties for 52 yards, some at the worst possible time.
- Carolina for 2 for 12 on 3rd down...again an area they struggle
- Panthers won the TOP battle 33.5 minutes to 26.5
Let's hear from you Panther fans...how do you feel about this one?
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Toughest loss yet
Way too many mistakes, but so much good to take from it at the same time.
I’m confused
I am too
I get that we have flaws and a rookie QB and stuff, but when we are in every game, we have to win them
So Dwill finally has a game, and runs for like 8 ypc
And we still abandon the run… why? We have 2 1st round RBs in our back field… They could have ran us to a victory if used properly today.
STEVE SMITH!
I'm really, REALLY angry at Chudz playcalling in the 2nd half...
he kept going to the same pass plays, expecting them to keep working; Why we stopped running the ball when we were beginning to keep their D on the field is beyond me!
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
D-Will Finished With 10 Carries, For A 8.2 YPC & J-Stew Had 8 Carries For 52 Yards
D-Will averaged 8.2 YPC
J-Stew averaged 5.2 YPC
Cam averaged 4.4 YPC, with 2 TD’s
The 2 RB’s averaged 7.4 YPC (18 carries for 134 yards)
If you inclused Cam’s rushing stats (8 carries for 35 yards), then the Panthers averaged 6.5 YPC
169 total yards rushing is pretty good, and the YPC’s are great.
The Panthers running game seems alive again, The 1st half, and until midway through the 3rd quarter (runs to start the 3rd quarter, 20, 9, and 16 yards, only 1 carry by Cam for only 2 yards was the only carry under 4 yards in the whole 3rd quarter) the play calling was much mre balanced and less predictable than last week. The score was largely responsible for taking away the 4th quarter running game.
+10000
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I officially HATE Legadu Nannee
We throw to him like 50 times per game, and he never catches anything unless he’s wide open. I just don’t see any value in plaing him at all.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Oct 2, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
No. Did he play?
Maybe I just got so use to not seeing him do anything that I thought it was somebody else.
STEVE SMITH!
And just to comment on your feelings about DeAngelo
I think he is one of the best in the league. However, we have not used him enough to warrant his resigning and it doesn’t look like we plan to. So….as much as I want to disagree, you are right; he should have been let go.
Today was the day to ride Double Trouble
I’m annoyed that Chud doesn’t run even when we are running well… And relies on guys like Nannee to make plays.
STEVE SMITH!
Yep
10 yards for 82. Nice return to the land of production for Williams.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Playcalling was better for him IMO.
Got him to the edge a couple times, ran him out the “I” once or twice.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He was pissing me off
constantly giving up on routes and dropping easy catches. He is responsible for that pick 6
Naanee Finished With 4 Catches For Only 27 yards & Am I the Only One Who Thinks He Should Have Caught that Int?
Granted, Naanee did get hit in the back by the 2 defenders, but the ball wasn’t greatly over thrown, it hit his hands, and he wasn’t fully stretched out as he reached up.
by PanthersRoar on Oct 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He can't catch with his hands
He has to cradle the ball to catch it. He is THE worst receiver I have EVER seen.
He is 100% responsible for that pick-6!
by Panthster on Oct 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I Second This!!!!
everytime hes involved something bad happens
ball hits him in the hands, tip, int td
also he just doesnt fight for balls we really need to stop throwing to him.
ALSO WHEN WE NEED A 4TH DOWN CONV WE GO TO HIM WHY!!??
by CaliforniaPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel ok about the game with the exception of...
this game being very win-able. We just couldn’t catch a break from shooting ourselves in the foot and getting Effed in the A by the refs. I know every fan complains about calls not going their teams way – but seriously, it was bad today.
~A bullet may have your name on it...but grenades are addressed 'to whom it may be concerned...'
the block in the back on the return, pass interference on Shockey, and a few “illegal shift/formation” calls
I have serious questions about the phantom PI call on Shockey and these illegal formations.
~A bullet may have your name on it...but grenades are addressed 'to whom it may be concerned...'
by boywonderncsu on Oct 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I told you guys the running game would get started
specifically D-Will. This happens every year, they start late. now that he’s warmed up he will be ready to go
I knew ST would be the deciding factor in this one
I don’t know why BAMF and Chud have a man crush on Naane, but he wasn’t catching jack in this game. LaFell is the better option despite stumbling on his route in the endzone early in the game. The one positive I will take from this game, the Panthers can play with any team in the league.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Oct 2, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yet again this game came down to the 3rds
not 3rd downs (although that also contributed) but wining on defense, special teams, and offense. We won on offense but lost on defense and special teams. 1/3 us, 2/3 bears.
no doubt
our Special Teams got bent over the barrel wit the gimp in the next room
~A bullet may have your name on it...but grenades are addressed 'to whom it may be concerned...'
by boywonderncsu on Oct 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not the only one who missed Kasay today, was I?
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Ugh...horrible grammar...try again...
I wasn’t the only one who missed Kasay today, was I?
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Mare has looked great to me
He got blocked… But Pep does that a lot. That 52 yarder was dead on… minus a foot. Otherwise, the touchbacks are great. Kasay hasn’t been able to do that for quite awhile.
STEVE SMITH!
Yeah, now Peppers will get all kinds of love for his momentous FG block, even though he had zero sacks, and only 1-2 tackles.
That was all on Mare. Pep just happened to be falling down in the right place.
I was semi-kidding.
I truly did miss Kasay today, though. I know that it’s good to have Mare for the touchbacks, and he’s generally pretty solid.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
This game came down to a number of things
It’s easy to overlook because Cam has been playing at a high level… But STs sucked, defense sucked, Nannee sucked and redzone offense sucked. Moving the ball outside the redzone is about all this team can do really well.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Oct 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I only have one rational thought after this game
Naanee sucks. Bad.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
by Smitty89 on Oct 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
it's not all him but i agree he sucks!
This has been a public service announcement.......
by CaptainPanther on Oct 2, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not him, but it's something about him
He may not always get the best throws to him, but it seems like he’s targeted too much for his production. He’s snake bitten somehow. Just no good comes when he’s targeted.
What makes him suck even worse is that there's a lot of promise on the bench behind him
They just aren’t getting minutes. I’m confident that Edwards and Pilares at worst could do what Nannee does… catch wide-open passes, and drop everything else.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Oct 2, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously.
At the very least rotate WR #2 a little bit. It’s not as though Naanee was ever thought to be a clear cut #2, at least IMO.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I will rec every comment of this nature from now until LaFell jumps him on the depth chart.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
how many drops?
I can remember three.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite, was when the game was on the line...
we needed a first down and Cam threw to him. He saw the ball coming and mistaking it for a lethal heat seeking missile, he slid onto his back, just in time for the ball to sail over his head. However, as anyone who has played kick ball knows, the ball hit him in the knee while he was flat on his back, thus resulting in him being killed.
smith had one big drop!
he makes it we win…the guy make a tackle on ST we win!! i could go on and on
This has been a public service announcement.......
yeah...
just couldn’t string together enough of the right things to win. but, i they’ll get there. i think the team is headed in the right direction – and that’s not something i’ve gotten to say about the panthers for a long while
~A bullet may have your name on it...but grenades are addressed 'to whom it may be concerned...'
by boywonderncsu on Oct 2, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
We all WANT the wins right now, but we still need to look at all the positives.
We know Double Trouble can run, we are still developing Cam. Remember, this year is 60% development.
We were gashed by Forte (he’s good and our tacklers were just a hair off each time). We kicked directly to Hester (Duh!) and another kick return, yet the game was STILL WINNABLE! I like where we are going. We’ll lose some of the winnable games this year, so that we will perform better for the whole season next year.
NAANEE SUCKS!!!!
he is the worst reciever on the team, he shuld be benched or waived
PS. BRING T.O. TO THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
by Smitty89 on Oct 2, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can i perpetually rec this?
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Oct 2, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly I would take either
SPecially of lega dud
Almost rec'd this one...
until I saw the P.S. lol
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
by Newsinz on Oct 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
seriously T.O??
Just play lafell, he’s clutch and isn’t a complete cock either. Win win if you ask me. Everything about naanee annoys me now… Even his stupid smiling face on madden. Go LaClutch!!!!
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would rather have T.O.
But I also doubt Nanee is actually better than the guy we cut…JaNorris Warren. 1400 yards and 20 TDs as a senior in college. Maybe he did it against softer competition, but Nanee couldn’t have done it.
Missed FG's
You do not win games when you miss 2 FG’s and the opposition returns punts for 2 TD"S.
Nanneee…..go back to California.
Time for either Pilares or Edwards to step in as #3 WR. Put LaFell as #2 WR. He has earned it.
"Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one"
by CarPanthers on Oct 2, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I meant to "rec" this...
And somehow something flipped out, and I hit the flag button instead, and it won’t let me unflag. =/ So mods…ignore this. Apologies, CarPanthers.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
I'd like to see Edwards get a shot at WR......
And Pilares get some time at punt return.
"Keep Pounding" -Sam Mills
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id like to see pilares get a shot at WR....
And edwards do something with punt returns. :)
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Oct 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That would work.
I just don’t think Armanti is explosive enough for punt returns. He’s got skills in the open field, but he seems to be better when he’s got a head of steam. Hell, I don’t know.
"Keep Pounding" -Sam Mills
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Me too.
I believe he was active today and was seen catching punts before the game. I don’t recall where I saw this written though.
"Keep Pounding" -Sam Mills
Follow me on Twitter
It was on Twitter...
I’m thinking it was Steve Reed, but it might have been one of the other guys (Person, etc.)
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Thanks Jamie.
I figured as much, but I’m all over the web on game day (and every other day). No telling what I might come across.
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Gonna be some shake up next week.
Rivera’s seen enough.
How can you be sure?
He might be another john fox type who likes to see his how bad can one player be?
by Panthster on Oct 2, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fucking seriously, dude?
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I am reaaallly pissed and no longer mad at Naanee
All three losses ended with nunua not catching the ball. If he was no longer in the game, he wouldn’t be in position to play THAT badly. I can no longer blame naana. He has played very consistently for two years. Why do our coaches keep him in the game?
Shit rolls up hill. Rivera is young and not perfect. He is still learning. But this bad player is making Rivera look bad. How much longer will this continue?
by Panthster on Oct 2, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if there were any
punt Armanti fielded where there wasn’t 4 opposing defenders within 10 yards i would stop defending him :) his stop go speed are all that’s allowing him to get 6 yards/pr
"When I've arrived, close my eyes"
no one said murder
just wing him a bit
"I kinda just sling it" -Jake
by bleed_in_blue on Oct 2, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Every game we have played this season has been win able and thats the part that has been pissing me off D:<
Every single time we have something good happened a BOGUS ASS Flag or a LEGAGOTDAMCANTYOUGETSOMEDAMNHANDS NANNOT miss drop. i swear i have NO idea what the coaches see in that guy man?!
Other then that the RB’s did a good job. The Run D was attrocious. Pass D and pressure for the most part was good.
Man i bet the bears fans think there hot shit too. geez.
Sorry for ranting D: i just can’t help it.
Pictures
He has pictures on Ron Rivera.
"Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one"
Maybe Ron and Chud together
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We will Trade for a DT before the Bye week
We need a DT to plug the middle. We canot let teams run the ball this way on us. I suggest we trade Nannee for a Bojangles Biscuit.
"Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one"
I'm not so sure we will.
I think what you see is what you get when it comes to this year’s roster.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the hurry to trade for a DT for?
We’re not going anywhere! Yes, by all means, trade Naanee away, but don’t give up anything significant like draft picks.
by jkp1516 on Oct 2, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this time last year we were pretty dismal looking but now we are on the right road
rome want built overnight!
This has been a public service announcement.......
by CaptainPanther on Oct 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's no secret we make all teams have breakthrough games on offense against us
we will continue to loose until we fix ST and D our offense is plenty! minor correctable mistakes… but they are glaring when the D don’t stop anyone!
This has been a public service announcement.......
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for what its worth guys.. Eagles 1-3, Panthers 1-3 oh and Romo threw an interception with 3 mins left to go in the game and Lions won.
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Oct 2, 2011 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
So happy the Eagles are 1-3.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't on CSR during the game....
But why the hell do we punt to Hester after he burns us for 60+ yards on the previous kickoff?
That is the play that cost us this game. I know there are more plays that were important but that one is on the guys that know better.
That baffled me. He burnt us how long before that punt, 5 or 10 minutes?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My personal opinion...
I don’t care if it’s a kick or a punt, if Hester is the return man, when your STs suck as much as ours, you get that ball out of bounds. I don’t care if it puts Chicago on their 40. Starting on the 40 gives you better odds of making a stop than letting Hester return.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
by jamiedk on Oct 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I say.
This Season and off season we look for FA’s and Rookies that were EXCLUSIVELY used for ST.. that way we can half the ultimate ST.
Legedu needs to go
Put Armanti , Kealoha or even that dude with the crazy name. Ajirotutu or whatever. Nanee has got to get the hell off the field if he’s not going to catch anything.
by Rabbit89 on Oct 2, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bears fan here, you guys made me really nervous today
Hell of a game. Cam newton looks like he’s the real deal and should be your franchise qb for years to come. Best of luck to beason as well moving forward.
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Oct 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
appreciate it man, great game.
good luck to you guys going forward as well
I think patience is our friend with this team. We all want to win now and I do too but later in the season and next year this team isn’t gonna lose games this way. We will make these plays and get these close wins.
by doug2626 on Oct 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's a good point but frustrating nonetheless
This season does remind me of the Panthers just before the Super Bowl year when we didn’t win many games but were losing close games. When they turned it around and started winning those close games it made all the difference.
That said, it’s extremely frustrating that we are losing these close games on a couple bonehead plays every week. This team is literally 3 plays away from being 4-0 right now.
by MindMachine on Oct 2, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Needs
DT
Our injured guys
WR (possibly, mostly just cut Nanee)
And special teams guys.. not just a knee jerk reaction today… AE NEVER gets any blocking
Things that killed us:
Play Calling
Refs
Missed Tackles
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it was penalties that cost us this game.
Sure, Naanee didn’t make a few catches.
Sure, we didn’t tackle Hester.
Sure, Forte ran on us at will.
But with all of that, consider this: we allowed no sacks, won the TOP handily, moved the chains easily (24 FDs to only 15 for the Bears), never fumbled. A lot of good things to build on. A lot if things we never did last year.
As for the penalties, we’ve got to be one of the worst in the league by now. We had 2 beautiful TD passes nullified by calls, and a host of other FDs. If either one of those were allowed to stand, we win this game, despite all the list of the three factors I listed above. I’m not blaming the refs for those, rather the discipline of the players, who need to drastically reduce the penalties.
Our offensive production can succeed against any Defense out there. Through 4 games (including the monsoon game), we’ve amassed an amazing 1760 yds of offense, a 440 YPG average.) Shore up the defense’s tackling, and eliminate all the penalties, and we’re a contender, and in every game we play.
Those 2 things are what the coaches have got to work on this week, not play-calling, not route-running. Tackling and discipline: what they call the fundamentals.
This
Those 2 things are what the coaches have got to work on this week, not play-calling, not route-running. Tackling and discipline: what they call the fundamentals.
I have a hard time blaming playcaling when you amass over 500 yards of offense. I blame refs for stupid ass penalties and poor defense and poor ST play.
Should we have run the ball more? Yeah. But I can’t argue with the offensive production.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I agree with this too...
In our three losses our team has had over 400 yards in each game. Not garbage time yards, but real productive, offensive yards and special teams and defense are giving the games away.
its not all about yards
the playcalling in the red zone has led to so many stalled drives. we have to come away with TDs instead of FGs in the redzone, and we rarely are doing so
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps. But the points left on the field due to poor calls by refs cannot be dimissed.
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I agree with your points on the play calling, but not the refs
Yeah, there have been some questionable at best calls against us this year but thats part of the NFL and we’ve had some go in our direction too.
To me our special teams cost us this game as well as the Arizona game. Defense was horrible today. We said it all week that stopping Forte was the key to this game. We give him a career high day and lost by 5 points.
Very few calls have gone our way… even the players are starting to talk about how poor the officiating has been. I know that is a crutch to use for the reasons for our losses, but they have called some really awful penalties that have either taken us out of FG range or screwed us out of TD’s.
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There has been some bad calls... don't get me wrong...
But in the NFL you account for the things you have control over and the decision to punt to Hester instead of punt out of bounds cost us far more in this game than the BS pass interference call on Shockey.
I'm Still Not Angry With the Team
We all expected this to be a tough, learning year for the new group all around. New coaches, new QB, etc. Keeping things in perspective, no one, including even the most optimistic fans, thought we would be this competitive.
The difference between a playoff team and an average team record-wise is limiting mistakes and making big plays when you need to. So far, I think we’ve upgraded from a poor team in 2010 to an average team in 2011. Our record sucks, but losing by no more than a TD in each loss (and against some good squads nonetheless!) means we are competitive.
If we can continue to improve the various aspects of our game throughout the season (ie. the running game today) then we will be more competitive. The defense wasn’t as bad as everyone is making them out to be, they played much better in the 2nd half and gave our offense a chance to win. That’s without our best LB’s AND our starting corner. ST concerns me, but again, we have to grow.
Personally, I’m still excited that we have a chance to win every game, we didn’t have that last year. Just about everyone on CSR expected to have a learning season this year, so stick to your guns. We are waaaay better than before, and I can’t see this team taking a step back as the season progresses with the limited time they have together so far.
FYI, we just hung 543 yards on the bears…Wow!
by LuvMeSomePanthers! on Oct 2, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
It's OFFICIAL!!
Count me amongst the ranks of Nanaa haters! Maybe if he cut them dreds he wouldn’t be so off balance. Also, I’m used to a Panther team that counts defense as a strength. It’s a new era my friends. I hope the D will mature, but it’ll prolly be too late coming. We Should’ve won this game.
These are the games that rebuilding teams like ours lose. Ones where the little things cost you. Brian Billick even said it. We’ve just gotta stay the course.
josephperson Joe Person
TE Jeremy Shockey couldn’t believe penalty was called on him on TD. Said officials get to ‘fly free’, other perks. Need to be accountable.
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
And they threw the flag well after he caught it when he "interfered" about 10 yards earlier.
That shows a lot of bias to me.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly this^
Way too late of a flag compared to when the “penalty” occurred.
by Swamp Panther on Oct 2, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dangit...
Something’s screwy with my computer and CSR today. Just like I comment I tried to “rec” above, it’s showing that I flagged the comment.
Apologies, Southern Panther.
Anyway, Shockey’s absolutely right.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
I've been noticing that myself for the past week or so, atcually.
If you refresh the page, it will show that you rec’d it as you intended to.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
this happened to me as well.
thought i’d flagged one of Jamiedk’s comments, which i think would get me banned ;P
I would have lobbied for a banning. :P
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
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But the good news is...
you’re writing this from your computer and not your mobile!
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL...
I know! I finally got internet and satellite (with DVR, thank God for that wonderful invention). It seriously took about a month once I moved into my new place in the middle of nowhere.
I’m going to try to call into the Cat Scratch Radio show this Tuesday. =) We’ll see how that goes. I don’t have a landline, so I’m going to try to “call” via internet and a headset.
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LOL
I wish I could see that geek-ness…
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yay!
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Did anybody else know Cam Newton was on our team in 2006.....
http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2506322/profile
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Ha I actually noticed that playing Madden 08.
I don’t have money to get any new games/consoles btw lol.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
makes it easy then just edit him and your set haha
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Gantt is too smart...his response from twitter
Yeah, he was a S from Furman. Brother of former USC QB Syvelle Newton. High school teammate of former Panther S Quinton Teal.
Who knows this shit?
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The guy taken off the beat for the guys who don’t know Mike Rucker from Darius Rucker
by James Dator on Oct 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which one is the Country singer?
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charlotte observer is definitely winning on that…
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Damn...well their goes that theory..or is it
@daringantt Fuck en ehh man your are too good at your job…no wonder JR wanted you out…
@MMA_PITBULL Sorry, no conspiracy. The economy wanted me out.
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CO sucks now...
i don’t even read their articles anymore
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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Couple of thoughts...
Naanee is just awful…We need an upgrade at wlb, Williams missed too many tackles or was not where he needed to be…Newt is great…Smith is still great…Shockey was robbed… Questionable ref calls all day…End of half play calling and time management was beyond poor…I feel like I did after the GB game…We should have won, but somehow we didn’t…This one hurts, big time…
8 catches, more than 180 yds, and you rag on Smith?!?
Go pick on somebody your own size.
Would you say that to his face?
by bigdavis on Oct 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a hard time arguing with bigdavis here
Smith is one of the top receivers in the league right now regardless of his age, tough to say he’s lost a step.
the only thing i would say to steve smith's face is...
You are awesome and open 100 percent of the time.
Save us Pilares
by LimeyPanther on Oct 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That's one of the most ridiculous statement's I've heard in a while.
Smith has been a play making machine.
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4 years ago.......
Smith had 87 receptions for 1,002 yards and 7 touchdowns.
This year, he’s on pace for 96 receptions for 2120 yards and 8 touchdowns.
Probably won’t happen, but that’s how the stats project. He’s already got 24 receptions for 530 yards through 4 games.
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Once again we beat ourselves with a few big mistakes.
1. Naane should not be getting that many opportunities over Lafell. Why they keep going to him is beyond me and the first and only real complaint I have with our coaching staff. Lafell should be #2 end of story.
2. Cam is the real deal. period. You can only say, “well it was only a couple games” for so long. He is for real and he is here to stay. Opposing teams are going to loathe facing Cam Newton for the next decade.
3. Deangelo is the same guy he always has been, just needed time to fit in to the offense.
4. That PI call on Shockey was complete and utter bullshit. If the guy hadn’t lost his balance and fell over there probably wouldn’t have been a call. There were a couple of other calls I didn’t agree with but you can’t blame the loss on the refs. We had our opportunities.
5. Devin Hester is a beast.
Rules and Regulations of the Game: 89, Bottom Line
My thoughts on the game:
1) Like many people said above, Naanee sucks. Yes, he is open a lot, but that doesn’t matter if you can’t catch. LaFell needs to start next week. He had that dumb mistake where he went out of bounds instead of going for the 1st down, but otherwise had a decent game.
2) I feel like once we get to the opponent’s 30 yd line, Chud abandons the run and calls almost exclusively passes. Not really liking that. With that said, DWill and JStew looked great today with the opportunities they did get.
3) Penalties at inopportune times hurt us. See illegal formation and pass interference on Shockey.
can someone explain Naanee to me?
and why he was targeted SO MANY TIMES.
I still don’t see what he brings to the team and why he’s starting ahead of LaFell.
As for Lafell
I do think that Lafell has out performed Naane…. however, I keep going back to the thoughts of a couple weeks ago where Lafell is making 1-3 plays per game so far this year against the 3rd DB. If you put him into the #2 spot is he going to make the plays Naane is missing?
Not saying Naane is better because as we all know he gets open and just doesn’t make the play… the question is, if Lafell runs that same route does he even get open?
I'm writing the MMO now... but one question for people
Why should the Panthers have run the ball more?
Cam Newton averaged 8.1 YPA… could we have said with certainty that Double Trouble could have averaged that many yards per attempt?
Certain plays we could have run the ball on… but yeah, when Cam is playing that well it is hard to justify taking the ball away. But we need some parity on offense. Need to blend in some running plays so that the PA passes become even more dangerous.
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Also by the end of the game CHI was getting more pressure on Cam.
A few more runs would’ve slowed down that pressure a little bit.. The late third and fourth quarters we threw too much which allowed CHI’s line to pin their ears back a little more, at least to me.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations to me
You can say we should have ran the ball more and ate the clock, but we won’t the TOP battle anyhow. The difference is in punting to Hester and not stopping Forte, period.
i feel like down 1 pt it is appropriate to run the ball
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That what I mean...
You can say that we needed to eat the clock, but it doesn’t necessarily hold any water.
I think the offense has done there job every game this year and that saying otherwise is just making an excuse.
It wasn't a matter of eating the clock to me
It was a matter of mixing up the playcalling a little more.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
When you’re totally 543 yards of offense and get 25 first downs then what more are you looking to achieve on that side of the ball?
I don’t get how the new Safety NFL hasn’t reprimanded the Bears for their turf.
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They did.......
and they re-sodded it back in August. Totally unacceptable that they haven’t done better. That place is a laughing stock.
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Then they forgot to water it and it got messed up again
They need artificial turf out there.
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That field is awful.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You asked what more we could want, TD's is what I want.
Our O is creating everything but TD’s. I know it is a matter of time, but with the gaudy stats we put up we have a shocking lack of points. Again, I know this will be corrected in the future, and I am still giddy about much of the young and veteran talent we can build around.
But you are absolutely right about the turf at Soldier Field. It it the 13th man.
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Getting to the redzone and settling for FGs on back to back drives
Is not what good teams do.
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If they make those fieldgoals, they win.
Sounds like they will be ok with the fieldgoals if they can make them.
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that was not an easy one
you cant put that drop on Steve. Most WRs would not have caught it. He was running full speed and had to slide to get his hands on it. It was just to low. It was catchable but barely. I dont think that ones on him
I've seen Smitty make far tougher catches with ease.
Same as what I said for Nanana, if it hits you in the hands you’ve gotta catch it.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam needs to stop throwing to Nanne in those situations
QBs favor certain receivers… Cam so far is just throwing to whoever.
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Nanana obviously is getting open.
But it doesn’t matter if he doesn’t make the play. We said the same thing about Armanti this preseason. He could do what Nanana’s doing with ease plus we’d be devloping. Same thing goes for Flyin’ Hawaiian.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not open enough
Clearly. You throw to Smitty when he’s slightly open. You only throw to Nannee when he’s WIDE open.
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Is Cam perhaps a little too unbiased? ha
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 3, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
The Nannee INT wasn't Nannee's fault
Cam was trying to make too difficult of a pass. But somebody needs to be accountable for Nannee being targeted so many times, when he’s not good enough to catch in coverage.
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He’s getting open a lot… I find it hard to blame Cam for targeting the guy whose open… he’s just not very good
Might be a reason he keeps getting open. Film don’t lie. He sucks Little pressure and he misses everything
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Exactly
Cam wouldn’t be throwing to him if he’s not open. Armanti was getting open this preseason but couldn’t finish the play. Why not rotate #2 WR a little bit. Armanti, KP and LaFell can certainly match what Ughh Nananana’s doing and we’d be developing them. Its not as though Ughh Nananana has ever been considered our clear cut, indesputable #2, IMO.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish.......
We could go back and find all of those comments that were to the contrary when we signed him. I got lambasted for suggesting this guy wasn’t very good when we picked him up. I wish I had been wrong, but his career stats don’t lie.
he’s just not very good
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too me i would NOT coach Newton to NOT throw too Nanee
I think Newton is playing very instinctive right now and throwing to a open guy vice throwing to a favorite reciever… and trust me that is a major major advancement in his development…. Matt Stafford would lock in on Calvin Johnson all day regardless of the defence or coverage.. he is playing better now because he is JUST now doing what Newton is doing
i meant to add to that...
i mean if you give him anybody to catch the ball opposite smith and the Panthers are 3 and 1 right now
better red zone offense
my only beef is when we get in the redzone we are working almost exclusively out of the shotgun
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly...
30 points should have been enough to beat the Bears.
To try to pin it on calling passes instead of running is a stretch.
Can’t look for much more than that but, I just thought that towards the end of the third and fourth quarters we became a little unbalanced and CHI’s line was able to pin their ears back a little more. It may just be that they finally stepped it up a little but it’s not illogical to say just a few more runs would’ve held them back a little. We’ll never know but that’s my POV.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Were you asking this sarcastically?
When you’re one of the top offensive teams in the league and you can’t win a game… Maybe something about that offense isn’t complete?
Our offense is great for 80 yards… It’s in the redzone that we fall apart, can’t move the chains, and sometimes go backwards.
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Or maybe the defense and special teams are letting them down....
To me when your offense is getting the job done with those kind of numbers and you defense is giving up 100+ yard running games (200 today) and allowing two punt returns for TD’s in 4 weeks the problem isn’t the offense.
Tis true
But I agree with James in that Chud shouldn’t be fielding so much of the blame for “not running the ball enough” when the offense is putting points on the board and racking up yardage and time of possession.
Our special teams scare the sh!t out of me right now every time the ball is in the air on either side of the play and every time we need a 3 and out or a stop the defense is giving up yardage in chunks, that is far more glaring of a problem than what plays we are calling on offense when we are constantly moving the ball and almost never going 3 and out on offense.
Don't tell TD that.
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Right on - 29 should be enough to beat that team.
If Connor tackles Hester where he should have, they don’t get that score.
Any criticisms of offensive play-calling, drops, overthrows, run/pass ratios – they’re all beside the point.
It’s our Defense (tackling, or the lack thereof) and penalties that keep biting us in the butt.
Agree, bigD.
I posted this week that we should punt out of bounds all day. If I could figure that out, seems like the Panther staff should have been all over it.
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The run was working and inside the redzone were we have struggled mostly passing it. Why not try running it for a score without Cam being the ball carrier?
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this
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
because both our backs were avging over 6 YPC
it’s a way to move the chains effectively, drives stall when you get 2 or 3 incompletions in a row
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
By the same token, they could've broken off a big one.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a dangerous assumption, but it's a safer assumption considering i don't think we had a single negative rushing play on our 18 attempts
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I could debate that… do you put faith in the phase of the ball that’s worked for 4 games straight, or that phase that’s worked in two quarters?
what makes you think it wouldn't have continued to work this game?
i felt like we were physically dominating them up front. we ran the ball once in the fourth quarter. I’m not saying we should stop throwing, but inside the 20 yard line we have to be able to keep defenses honest by running the ball. We have two star running backs that aren’t touching the ball
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a few times on first or second down near the end
Just to keep the defense guessing. And definitely in the red zone. Again just to keep the D honest.
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This. We became a little too unbalanced on offense.
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 2, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Running the ball usually always gets positive yards
Cam on the other hand completed less than 60% of his passes… Probably less in the 2nd half. More importantly, Stewart and DeAngelo are vets… Cam is a friggin rookie that we are relying on to do it all.
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James,
there is no doubt we are moving the ball well right now, but you can’t argue that when we get in the red zone, our play-calling is extremely predictable. We are working almost exclusively out of the shotgun, when we do run it, it is a QB draw by Cam, and we we don’t, Cam is struggling to hit receivers in the compressed field. We have thrived between the 20’s and then gotten bogged down time and time again.
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
As said above
Shockey gets a flag
Smitty drops an easy one
LaFell slips on the turf
One of these doesn’t happen and we’re marveling at 500+ yards of offense, not worried about the balance
fair enough
but the red zone offense has still struggled all season has it not? I just don’t see how running it would have been a bad thing when we were running it well.
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It probably wouldn’t have been a bad thing… I’m just confused why Chud’s playcalling is the biggest critique.
The offense exceeded their season averages on yards, pts scored, 1st downs…. while the defense allowed 7.2 yards per carry all day long by a team averaging 3.2 yards before today
DeAngelo had 2 out of 10 rushes of over 20 yards
those are explosive plays. Our running backs have an explosive element that a lot of teams don’t have. I just think keeping defenses more honest would do wonders for this team. Play action out of the I could really open things up in the red zone when the field gets condensed. The offense has definitely been very good. But it could be BETTER. We left a lot of points out there. When you run the ball once in a 1 pt. game, in the 4th quarter, with DeAngelo and JStew on the team, I think that is a mistake. The Bears didn’t even have to respect the run in the 4th quarter b/c they knew we were going to the air.
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not as upset with naane
as i am the number of targets he gets. all i can do is trust in the staff but i’d like to see what pilares or edwards have at wr after 4 weeks of seeing naane. overall, we can stick with any team just have to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. what do you see as the future of the DT position james? it’s early I know but just curious what the learning curve is… couple seasons? ST’s killed us
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Although I agree with some of your post...
It’s hard to argue with James’ point above that if the guy is open you throw the ball there.
And to reiterate on an argument I posted earlier on this board… who’s to day that Pilares, Edwards or Lafell even get open on the play Naane is targeted on. This is the only reason I think Naane is starting is that the coaches aren’t seeing the ability to even get open.
Probably right
it’s just frustrating to see so many targets go his way when he hasn’t done much with it. I will give him props on the left sideline effort (at about the 5 yd line) when he got crushed. Tough games so far and have to watch myself from asking “what coulda been” had the injury bug not decimated our D
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Can't argue with the frustration...
Just saying the answer may not be as easy as swapping him with somebody else on the depth chart…
That said, can it be much worse?
But what about the other 3 downs.
I get what you are saying, but those three plays were 3 out of 12 chances. We need to have those opportunities on 6-8 of those 12 chances to be effective.
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Coulda shoulda woulda
I’ll give you the Shockey play, because that was just an atrocious penalty, but the Smitty drop and Lafell slip are things that happen. And things like that have been happening to them often. It doesn’t matter how close they have been, the fact is that they aren’t succeeding with the current playcalling, so why no try something different?
Oh don't get me wrong, it absolutely is. It goes both ways
Saying “if Smitty wouldn’t have dropped it” isn’t any different than “if they would have run the ball.”
I’m just saying that we keeping having bad luck passing, why not try running.
I disagree.....
One of these doesn’t happen and we’re marveling at 500+ yards of offense, not worried about the balance
I think the majority of fans here are smart enough to accept the win but question the method. Personally, I’m ecstatic about Newton’s play (which I predicted, just not this soon), but I’ve been disappointed with our play calling every week.
I don’t care so much about the specific plays as I do about the players touches. DeAngleo and Stewart should be more involved, whether it be a screen pass, toss, pass, or handoff. They both have more ability than Naanee and can be incorporated into the scheme as an extension of the run game, if not in the run game directly.
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The lack of a run game is a huge reason why we stall so many drives out
Cam just isn’t good enough yet once the field gets short. When we get into field goal range and the field shrinks, there isn’t as much space for the receivers to get open – and Cam isn’t comfortable enough yet to hit the receivers consistently in tight spots. Running the ball makes the defense a little more honest, and maybe that opens up the secondary a little to give the receivers more space.
Not to mention, the run game was working today. Beyond just opening the pass game up, just running the ball a little more by itself may have kept some of those drives alive.
Cam just isn’t good enough yet once the field gets short. When we get into field goal range and the field shrinks, there isn’t as much space for the receivers to get open – and Cam isn’t comfortable enough yet to hit the receivers consistently in tight spots. Running the ball makes the defense a little more honest, and maybe that opens up the secondary a little to give the receivers more space.
it is my opinion that the Panthers could adjust their passing game to have Olsen function as that big reciever. To be honest i think part of Newtons issue in the red zone as a passer is the make up of the weapons and how they are used…. Alot of the really good red zone teams have big wideouts to throw it too.. Dez Bryant… Calvin Johnson….Andre Johnson… Greg Jennings.. These type recievers can really give you a advantage in those areas with jump balls and back shoulder throws…..it is my opinion that they need to use Olsen in that role near the goal line in the passing game…. like what they did on that 2 point conversion vs the Jags…. Stafford would not be as good in those areas without Megatron that is for sure… a qb needs those guys who have that type of skills in that area of the field
S.Smith is good but i am not sure if he would be as good in tight on the goal line in the passing game……give Newton Olsen in that area lined up at wideout and all of those issues go away in my opinion…. better give him another big wideout he needs that really bad that is what is missing from the offence
Because becoming one dimensional when your offense is gaining good yardage through balanced playcalling is destined to fail...
We came out of the half with all cylinders firing at full force on offense, and despite it being a one possession game up until the end of the 4th quarter we chose to become one dimensional and completely abandon the run game; balance, balance, and more balance is the key to winning games, no matter how pretty it may look to be putting up such gawdy passing numbers, not too mention that once we became one-dimensional we started seeing more and more 3rd and longs (which we failed to convert). I’m placing some serious blame on Chudz for this one, because we were putting Chi-town’s D on the ropes in the third quarter, but we got predictable and let them get back on us….
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Definitely understand
the cry for balance and understand why (our offense has difficulty on a shortened field) but we scored 30 points. The bigger issue here was clearly ST’s or run D take your pic. The D will come in time. tough loss
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Good solution for a sieve-like defense that's besieged by injuries?
Keep their offense off the field lol We put ourselves in great position to a) Dominate TOP and b) keep their defense tired and off balance, and we went one-dimensional and let them get their offense back in a groove. Besides, something tells me they start passing the ball much more if we actually punch it in during the third quarter, which is something that sticking with the run most likely would’ve accomplished….
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I would say run a more balanced O
bc for me its a matter of toughness, in the red zone, and games like last week I feel those are times you need to be able to play smashmouth football. Plus it instills an extreme fear in opposing defenses when they can’t say all we have to do is stop one part of an offense.
I thought the run/pass mix was great
You just take out Nannee and replace him with, oh I don’t know, ANYONE else and we would have won this game and possibly two more.
I was watching the replay of Hester’s TD and as soon as he caught the ball, the announcers were like, seriously, you are going to kick it right to him? LMAO then CMAO
Holy shit!
Flea flicker by Denver?!
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my 2 cents on the ST
I think a lot of it comes to injury. some to special teams, some to starters who have to replaced by special teamers. 3 of our best special team guys are not out there because of injuries (Conner, Williams, and Barnidge)
Interesting point
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O line played good.
I beleive that part of our team is starting to really gel. I don’t think Cam was sacked one time at all today. Plus Byron Bell played solid again when he was put in the game to spell Otah. Butler also played well in Gamble’s absence. The Bear;s really only threw to Capt’s way today.The win’s will come in bunches in time, But I am really concerned with special teams as a whole. I think we might look at replacing that coach if things don’t turn around. Plus we are getting gashed in the run. It might be time for BAMF to take over the defense. You take away special teams mistakes again in this game we win by 2 TD’s period.
Quick question
If Devin Hester played for any other team in the NFL would he be anything more than a returner? Matt Forte has almost as many career receiving yards as he does, as a running back.
I think so.
Hester is due credit. He has a special knack for running in chaos and the open field. It’s nothing the Bears are doing special he just has that kind of talent. Players come along so often that are good return men and he is just one of them.
Gannt and TD going back and forth
OK, TD, get over here. Let’s hug it out. RT @TD58SDTM: I actually have a lot of respect for @daringantt
TD said this was still a talented team on defense and Gantt disagreed minus them two. But for him to come out and say he respects him after a big disagreement? How was this guy fired…
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Not fired......
re-assigned. I agree with you though. Gantt is the best, even when he isn’t covering the beat. I think there was more to it than the economics. I don’t know what it was, but I don’t believe it was about $$$.
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I hate to one-off here...
…but who would have thought the Lions would be the only undefeated NFL team, now that the Bills have fallen to the Bengals?
Packers
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They're still undefeated as well?
Ahh, forgot about them. Still though… Detroit? More and more, I’m impressed by my off-season dark horse pick to surprise the league.
Packers being 3-0 with ZERO defense this year is quite impressive too. IF it clicks like it did last year they could run away with it
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400 yards, 4 TDs, 36 yds rushing, 2 more TDs. I lost
darin gantt is awesome
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WOW WHAT?
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Cam Newton & Greg Olsen had a very minor kerfuffle when Olsen consoled rook after win. Newton didn’t react well. CN apologized thru media.
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Let me just say, this kind of thing happens all the time between teammates (re: Olsen & Newton). Won’t be a story for very long. #panthers
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Cam is what 22 years old?
Let’s just go ahead and prepare ourselves for some immature moments. He’s not going to handle things like Delhomme did.
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I dunno that it's immaturity so much.
I suspect it’s more that he is simply unused to losing, and this is a wakeup call for him that this is the big leagues.
CAM is right more often than not
CAM may be a rook, but he is donig his best while other guys commit useless penalties, drop passes, give up long ass kick returns, (two PR for TDs this year), and so on and so on. Is CAM also supposed to make ST tackles and hold Forte to under 200 yards rushing. Someone else needs to step up.
Exactamundo.
He, and the whole offense, are doing their parts.
Is it too much to hold your opponent to 20 points a game?
Had we done that in our 3 losses, we’d be undefeated right now.
I know we’re damaged by injuries to the D, but, FGS, when we know they’ve only got ONE weapon on offense, and they’re afraid to pass, is it too much to expect the 11 guys on defense to tackle that one threat before he gets 200 yds? Or maybe expect the 11 on ST to be on the lookout for the one guy on kick returns that may hurt us? Or maybe alert the boys who’re on the offense to wait til the ball’s snapped before moving, or line up properly, or go in motion in compliance with the rules, or NOT block somebody in the back on a KR or PR for a change? Is it too much to ask these things?
No wonder Cam’s exasperated, or Shockey’s pissed. They’re not losers, and they’re not used to losing, and to quote Peter Finch once again (“Network”, great Oscar winning role, way before any of your times), “I’m mad as Hell, and I’m not going to take it any more!” (somebody post that picture, and see what I’m talking about.)
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Angry locker room. Shockey rips refs. Smith rips questioner. Rivera says some Panthers aren’t keeping up with Cam. I ask who. Wouldn’t say.
20 minutes ago Favorite
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Rivera says some Panthers aren’t keeping up with Cam. I ask who. Wouldn’t say.
Uh, Sorenson, doesn’t take a genius to figure out it is Naanee.
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Sounds like SOMEBODY'S gonna get benched.
Hmmm. Couldn’t be the RBs, couldn’t be the OL, couldn’t be the TEs. Couldn’t be Smitty.
Hmmm.
I pray that he really is benched. Legadon't is basically HIM 2.0...
I’m glad that he’s helped the WRs learn the offensive system, I’m glad that he’s a mentor, props to him for consistently getting open…
But he does jack squat on the most important part of making the difference between a W and L – catching the ball.
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I think they've learned the system by now.
Sit, mentor, sit.
Should of happened after week 1
as I said above. Keeping Naane in there is my one and only complaint with the coaching staff so far.
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Stay angry, and channel it against the Saints next week.
They are ripe for a beat-down.
We all knew this season was a loss
And that Cam’s development was what was most important. So far we are right on point, because Cam is looking like a future star. It’s just painful to experience the losses… Even when you expected them.
Now you know why I try to be realistic (oft negative) in my predictions.
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Definitely still painful
Just better (and more productive) to pull out the positives instead of saying “29 pts isn’t enough”… defensive was shocking today, but that’s to be expected with the injured LBs and no veteran DTs
Yeah, hearty congratulations are surely due you for your perspicacity.
Don’t pull anything patting yourself on the back.
by bigdavis on Oct 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the first game I got wrong this season so I think I am fairly realistic. I had this a Panther win.
I predicted Panthers 31 – Bears 24. I also inserted the caviat that we needed to be aware of the Bears Special Teams. I even suggested punting OB in this game. Had this been done I think the Panthers would have made me look good today.
I do, however, agree that this is a learning/developmental season and personally I am not living or dying by the win/loss record.
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What sorta got lost in the shuffle
was that Cam had a nice bounceback from his iffy game last week.
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I had to work(as usual) during the game, so here are...
questions that some of you can help me with after missing the game and looking over the statistics:
1. How can you lose to any team when the turnover ratio is even and you end up with a +246 total yard advantage?
2. Did Baker not receive the memo on Hester’s abilities?
3. Cam had 19 incompletions: How many of those would you say were inaccurately thrown and how many were dropped? Regarding the latter, who were the offenders?
4. Did any Panthers get injured?
5. Did Otah play?
1. Three TDs that should have happened erased by random acts + Hester return TD = loss
2. I don’t think our coverage acted like they needed to worry about him.
3. I’d say a good 12 of them were true incompltions. Another 4 Naanee should have had, 2 to Olsen and one to Smitty
4. Hardy minor injury, but he was okay
5. Yes
1. pick 6 and PR for a TD. The end,
2. Apparently not… but we didn’t get the memo to tackle anyone either.
3. About 6 of them were bad passes. Naanee dropped the other 13 passes.
4. Hardy for a bit, then he came back and played well. Other than that, no one that I know of.
5. I think so. Caused a bear to have a neutral zone infraction early on if I am not mistaken.
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Get someone can kick both kick off and punt with IQ
NooNoo need to go. it’s a no to him.
Defense—- what can I say.
1. How can you lose to any team when the turnover ratio is even and you end up with a +246 total yard advantage?
You lose special teams, by a wide margin
2. Did Baker not receive the memo on Hester’s abilities?
He got it about the time Hester ran by him, it was sent when he actually had to tackle Hester just minutes before
3. Cam had 19 incompletions: How many of those would you say were inaccurately thrown and how many were dropped? Regarding the latter, who were the offenders?
About 11 bad throws, 1 actual throw away to avoid sack, about 7 drops
4. Did any Panthers get injured?
None for more than a play or two, Hallelujah
5. Did Otah play?
Yep, well too
Shockey
Worst f…. call ever. NFL I need an explanation. Pls hold the strips accountable. integrity must be keep as the comish preaches
Srry fans about the loss. It hurts. Prob won’t sleep for days.
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Shocks… you are Grade A in my book dude. I hope we resign this guy.
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love the signing
hated it at the time, i’m becoming a huge shockey fan
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by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t like him either. But the moment we signed him I was a fan. I’m even more of a fan now.
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Hmmm...Shockey "hacked" i call BS lol
LOL its jshocks boy on his acct in charlotte. LOL he shouldn’t have left it open. I’ll prob get a tongue lashing. Srry js
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Not that I believe it wasn’t Shockey, but that is probably what he meant by “jschocks boy”
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Shockey's recent tweet...
Wow never leave your acct open when on a road trip. Thx Pedro. Lol but some of it’s true
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Bigger question
Since they didn’t fine Vick for his outburst, can they fine Shockey. Goodell set a bad precedent by not reigning in the questions about refs last week. Now it is open season on them, and you can’t hit a guy who makes a hundredth the amount that Vick does for pulling the same thing this week.
Can you?
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Worst f…. call ever. NFL I need an explanation. Pls hold the strips accountable. integrity must be keep as the comish preaches
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AMEN
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
I like the fire and the non-acceptance of the loss....
But this locker room issue scares me a bit to be honest. The last thing we need right now is to fall apart mentally.
Hopefully BAMF can put this fire in a bottle and use it to inspire the team to beat the Saints next week.
I think it is just frustration with playing so well only to be undermined by stupid calls or poor tackling or what have you. They will move on from this.
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I have faith that Rivera will keep them in check too...
I was just hoping for a win this week to build upon last weeks win and have a team that is confident and on a roll going into next week rather than a team that is frustrated and lashing out at each other and the refs.
This is fire in the belly, not a bottle. Good thing. Passive acceptance, and "it is what it is" stoicism doesn't make it any more.
This team has needed some kickass for a long time. Now with Smitty, Shockey, and Cam, we’ve got some attitude. Gotta love it.
This^ if the coaching staff can channel it
I said on a post in the off season that Shockey will bring some much needed attitude. Now let’s go hit some Saints! Go Panthers!!!
by Swamp Panther on Oct 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nothing would make me happier...
Than to see Shockey with even a bit more attitude and to see him light it up against the Saints to show them what kind of player they let walk to a division rival.
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Maybe they should all watch "Kickass" and get fired up to kick ass next week. Maybe even take some names.....
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by braves&panthers4ever on Oct 2, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Or "Win Win", about the H.S. wrestler who introduced a new hold to his teammates.
They called it the “whatever the fuck it takes” move.
IMO
No matter what the defense and special teams did or didn’t do, our offense lost this game. If we put 7 on the board instead of 3 (or 0) out of the 5 field goal attempts, then this game would have damn near been a blow out.
With that being said, our offense still looks pretty damned good. Our defense as a whole isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. I know our run defense has its issues but our pass defense is more than holding its own.
Our offensive line is getting better and better each and every week. This is the second week in a row that Cam hasn’t been sacked. Granted alot of times that is due to his elusiveness and just being hard to bring down, but the o-line is giving him time in the pocket. Not only that, they are finally starting to open holes for both of our studs in the backfield.
I dont think our special team unit played that badly except for the punt directly to Hester. I realize that there were some missed tackles, but that also comes from Hester just being the best in the NFL and kickoff/punt returns. He holds the record for a reason.
I truly believe that we are on the verge of winning alot of these close games.
Not only did the line suck...
the tackling SUCKED..and Captain had a horrible game. The receivers and TE need to catch the damn ball..
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
There as only one play where I was down on Capn
Other than that I was totally cool about his play.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh we are so close.
This is the year before the SB all over again. Once we can close out these games, we are unstoppable.
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Completely disagree with the first and last paragraph of this post...
Defense and special teams both lost this game to me.
And special teams has given up two punt returns for TD’s this year and gave up a 73 yard kick return today. Additionally Armanti has had 0 blocking all year.
And two missed field goals...
The one was a block by Peppers that he should have not kicked so low and the other was a miss from 52 (remember last week when everybody was upset we didn’t attempt a 50+ yard field goal in the rain and the “he makes those with ease” statement?).
Either way, a 73 yard kick return, punt return for a TD, 1 missed field goal and 1 blocked field goal is the definition of special teams playing badly in my eyes.
I dont think our special team unit played that badly except for the punt directly to Hester. I realize that there were some missed tackles, but that also comes from Hester just being the best in the NFL and kickoff/punt returns. He holds the record for a reason.
What about the horrendous KO coverage? What about the even worse KO return and punt return blocking? What about allowing a blocked FG?
Those are all special teams. Horrible!
it's real simple
don’t kick to Hester. That was two TDs right there. His KO return went for 73 yards, and then, as if we didn’t get enough, we punt straight to him.
The refs
They looked absolutely paid off today. The Shockey call as we all know was garbage but did anyone else notice the timing of the flag being thrown? Shockey burnt coverage and the ref didn’t even throw the flag until Shockey had almost caught the ball in the endzone.
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Cam Newton apologizes through media to TE Greg Olsen. Newton wasn’t pleased when Olsen tried to console him after loss.
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Was not a major blowup or anything, but Newton said “that was the wrong thing to do.”
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whatttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
Tweet from Jon Beason
jonbeason: Unbelievable! Its amazing how referees have no repercussions for “BLOWING” a game! Incredible
I blame the post surgery drugs
Beast is usually calmer than that.
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I think part of the issue is the team believing in themselves again.
That;s why they’re so pissed about a loss. I’m glad.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Will we get another one from Beason.........
Saying this was from his kid too? Lol.
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im to the point now that everytime we get a interception in the redzone and we can kick a FG to take the lead, it might be better to just kick the FG right away on 1st down.
how the hell did we lose that many yds on the interception? we intercepted it at th 20 then all off a sudden one penalty later we arw near midfield, wtf?
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Oct 2, 2011 5:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It still baffles me why we got rid of Kasay, he would have sunk that like nobody’s business.
by planedoutbomb on Oct 2, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ehhhh don't know about that.
Kasay isn’t as reliable after 50 yds.
So Cam Newton is pretty damn good
I think coaching really needs to step up here. On that 50+ field goal that missed 1 yard short., why do we not run on 3rd and 15 and set up a shorter field goal? Also time management was poor. And like many of you have said, the abandoning of the run game really hurt today because today we were running well.
Got to give it up to our defense, for a squad that is young and without our star LBs plus rookie DTs they played really hard. Proud of them
Go Cam! its so much fun to watch this team, i really dont get angry when watching this team. But what leaves me let down is that we could really be at .500 or above if this team just had some better breaks
...
What pisses me off even more is our div rivals having such easy games today.. Falcons @ Seahawks, Bucs @ Colts, NO at Jags.. who do we play? the Jags at fukin soilder field
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corr, the Bears at soilder field.. my bad
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Oct 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we play(ed) those teams
really if this team plans to become a .500 team or better it will come down to our division games each and every year.
Lets hope we win one of the next two
by jazztrumpeter89 on Oct 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
we definitely have a chance
our team has shown that much. despite this tough loss it feels good to know we can hang with every team (even when it’s a shoot out)…. here’s to hoping they can put it all together; give us better field position, stop the run and get 6 insteada 3 in the red zone.
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I would have loved this photo so much more if we would have actually won.
Peppers and Urlacher trying to bring Cam down.
nanee and special teams to blame
I think if LaFell was in and not Nanee, we get a completion and not a pick 6. CAM is a rookie, but he might have to cuss out some of these vets. Nanee should’ve caught that. I know the pass was high, but i still think LaFell makes the catch.
And I thought we all agreed not to kick to Hester. Does Rivera not read CSR? Did he not get the memo?
SO we have lost close games to the defending SB champs, and the 2010 NFC North Champs. We’re doing well, but I think this game also showed that we have a rookie head coach, as well as a rookie QB. But CAM looks unbelievable.
The caption for this picture is completely wrong...
It says Hester is stiff arming Mare on the way to a 69 yard punt return. If Mare is in that would be on the kick return where Mare actually pushed him out of bounds.
Not that it really matters.
Kasay would have been on the bench for that play........
Lloyd would have had to put down his flask and put out his cigarette to make the tackle, so he wouldn’t have been much help either. Probably would have muttered “fookin cunt” or something under his breath as Hester frog flipped into the end zone.
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by ALAC on Oct 2, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You must have missed his last couple of seasons.
While the movement of the LOS would help, he’s not what he used to be. Carrying a KOS is a luxury we can’t afford anymore.
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Just in case anyone is playing against Aaron Rodgers in FF today.
2 and a half quarters, he’s got 34 fantasy points.
god damn it, i'm 20 points behind. 0-4 in this shitty fantasy football crap
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I had to trade the autodrafted Brees immediately. Just can’t rooting for our rivals
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by chop goes da weazel on Mar 31, 2011 12:32 PM PDT
by MikeTrain on Oct 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will never bench our Franchise quarterback on my FFL team again.
Not even for Drew Brees, which I foolishly did today, thinking that Drew would make all the throws against Jacksonville that Cam missed last week.
I’m so sorry, Cam. Never again (except on our bye week). Please forgive me.
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regarding Shockey's latest tweets...
here’s are two (for example)
Worst f…. call ever. NFL I need an explanation. Pls hold the strips accountable. integrity must be keep as the comish preaches
Srry fans about the loss. It hurts. Prob won’t sleep for days.
and here are some previous tweets
Keeping all those who were involved in 911 in my prayers; its hard to believe it was 10 years ago. GOD BLESS AMERICA
Wow what a great game!!! NFL SEASON IS BACK.. Some bad calls but some good ones as well. AZ bound**
a definite difference in the writing… so it was his son who wrote those tweets. what kind of child impersonates their father, though? lol
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wait, wait, wait... HE HAS NO CHILDREN?
wth is going on here, lol
i dedicated this signature to my dog
He said in an interview on WFNZ...
That’s he’s not married and doesn’t have any kids. That’s why he goes off on all of those crazy adventures.
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Pat Y makes an obvious if not true point:
The Panthers lead the league in moral victories, but they’re 1-3.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Pat Y just fine.
At least he tells it like he see’s it.
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Def.
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by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Was I the only one
to see the illegal hit on Smith? he was catching a ball on the sideline and got missled. I wanna say it was Merriweather but i’m not sure, but he led with his helmet and made helmet to helmet contact. needless to say there was no flag.
i saw it
and tyrell sutton twittered about it. i expect a fine.
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Yep...
Caught that, too. And I love that Sutton’s still watching the team. I was sad to see him cut.
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"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Sutton who?
Oh, Tyrell Sutton, the guy who would be better on the team than Nanee. Cut that clown already. He’s like a faster version of Keary Colbert – not really a compliment.
It was that thug, Merriweather.
Always uses his helmet as a spear. With his rep, I can’t believe the refs missed that.
…but of course, they were extra focused on calling all those procedure penalties on us, after completed passes – and that jarring finger swipe that Shockey put on his defender!
Shockey’s right; these officials have no accountability.
With his rep, I can’t believe the refs missed that.
With the way the refs have been bending us over so far this year this doesn’t really surprise me…
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It's like a weekly proctology exam.
Not even any Vaseline today.
Do I sense a double meaning for “proctology”?
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This week they actually found a tumor
They names it Naanee.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Ya it was a bit hit
helmet to helmet straight to Smitty’s earhole…. Smith just got up and explained the Rules and Regulations to Meriweather
"When I've arrived, close my eyes"
I saw it, too.
Too bad Smitty isn’t one of those people who try to goad the stripes into a flag with excessive overreacting. Besides, it shouldn’t take an athlete acting like he got shot in the face for a referee to make a proper call.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Yupppppppppp!
Merriweather did it a couple of times, leading with his helmet and not much else…Harrison has lost a paychecks worth of fines over that shit, so why not Merriweather? lol
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
wow aaron rodgers is destroying denver
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
Rodgers is pretty much a machine these days.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Looks like Denver picked a bad day...
to have a bad day.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
by Newsinz on Oct 2, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he was hoping he'd be hidden with it on
too bad there’s a number and name on his back
i dedicated this signature to my dog
He is their spiritual adviser…
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LO f-ing L
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
EVERYBODY GO TO THIS LINK AND SIGN. We need Gannt back
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by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 2, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
I'd like them to Front Page it then
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
green it
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
it flagged despite me pressing rec
but i am signee #13 : ) i hope this works!
i dedicated this signature to my dog
Shit...
Why does it keep indicating ’flag" when I “rec”???
"Hope for the best plan for the worst"
"They laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at them because they're all the same"
Don't worry; your rec is good.
Refresh the page; your rec is fine. My recs have looked like flags for the past week or so, but they are still registered correctly.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
A quick breakdown of the passing game.
I was wondering if Naanee is really as bad as we are saying. So I decided to go back and look at the stats of our receivers. Through the first 4 games, here’s the breakdown of who’s doing what in the receiving game. Keep in mind that I didn’t look at the RBs, just WR and TEs.
Targets Catches Yards Catch % YPC YPT
Smitty 42 24 530 0.57 22.1 12.6
Naanee 25 8 75 0.32 9.4 3.0
Lafell 16 12 161 0.75 13.4 10.1
Shockey 20 11 178 0.55 16.2 8.9
Olsen 27 17 219 0.63 12.9 8.1
A few observations:
1. No WR behind Lafell on the depth chart has even gotten a target.
2. Despite Naanee being targeted the third most times (behind Smitty and Olsen) he has the worst % of balls caught, YPC and YPT. He’s only catching a third of the balls thrown to him – no one else is under 50%. I’ m not sure how many are drops and how many are bad throws, but it’s clear that something isn’t clicking with Naanee.
3. Cam is doing a great job of spreading the ball. Smitty has gotten way more targets than anyone else, but that’s to be expected. His numbers also justify it. Everyone else is between 16 and 27 targets which seems pretty even to me.
4. Lafell needs to be on the field more. He has he second most yards per target behind Smitty, but the least targets. I suspect this is due to him being on the sidelines during two WR sets.
by ppfcpp on Oct 2, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Sorry for the poor formatting on the stats
I typed it up so everything lined up nicely, and when I posted it it collapsed the table for some reason.
Its happened to me before also. Nice job anyways. rec'd
Just a note that since you say catch % it shouldn’t have the 0.XX. Percentage would be the whole number.
"I may be old but...eh, I forget the rest!"
ANYBODY who averages over a First Down for every time he's targeted, needs to be targeted more often.
Isn’t that pretty basic OC logic?
Duh.
I think you should email this to the team's site...
And request that it be forwarded to BAMF and Chud. =)
(Kinda kidding, but not really.)
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
wasn't Armanti targetted ONCE? i remember him being overthrown...
not that it makes a difference
i dedicated this signature to my dog
I should have noted, I got those numbersfrom the box scores on ESPN
It’s possible that it was overthrown enough they attributed the target to someone else, or that the play was called back for a penalty. It’s also possible ESPNs box score is just wrong. Either way I kind of remember him being thrown to, but I can’t remember what the outcome was.
Interestingly enough...
“Naanee” is trending in Charlotte on Twitter right now. LOL.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Fixed
I’m going out and
buyingpicking up my free Naanee jersey * now!
* Available anywhere Panthers merchandise is sold. A minimum of two Naanee jerseys must be claimed upon entering the store.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I AM TRULY NOT UPSET ANY LONGER
today has been a GREAT day, all because of what i’ve just learned!
2013… Arrested Development movie AND 10 episodes. YES YES YES
i dedicated this signature to my dog
.....what?
This is a joke, right? Yanking the old chains? Please don’t get our hopes up lol
Nobody fucks with the Jesus! -Big Lebowski
Source?
I’ve heard too many rumors about that movie to get my hopes up this easily.
"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
Am I missing something?
There is no official deal in place yet for where or when the show will air.
I don’t see how this is any different then the rumors I’ve heard for the past 5 years
I just posted thie first link that popped up
on almighty google
"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
That's fine,
It’s just that these rumors have been around for the past 2 years. There was never a lack of ideas or desire to do the movie. I’m pretty sure the problem from the beginning was getting a studio to pick up the project (and to a lesser degree getting Michael Cera to agree to do it).
The idea to do a fourth season is new, but there still is no studio agreeing to pick up the project, and no official date. Until I see that info, I refuse to get my hopes up.
google Mitch Hurwitz...
He made an announcement at some point this evening.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Had to watch this while my Eagles was pissing away the game
you guys looked pretty good all things considered.
"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company
god why does Miami suck so much
I have their defense in FF and they allow 30 points every damn game.
You too?!
Thank God I picked up the Steelers D also (even though they’re not exactly lighting up the scoreboard either).
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
If you need defense, look at Houston
Only owned in 37% of leagues on yahoo, but they’re averaging 11 points per week.
Miami finally got a real QB
Matt Moore was looking good.
Few New Observations
As some of you know, I never really post, but today I think I have to…
1. The tweet about “This year is about getting Cam ready” keeps me thinking (from Steve Reed maybe?) I think its true. This year is about building and learning. For instance — wildcat; simple to install but why no until now? Same thing with play calling. I wonder if we are sometimes ignoring he run in order to give Cam reps so that NEXT year, he is not so new at passing in the red zone… don’t know, but it keeps me awake at night :)
2. Bear we handled by the offense. Sure we did not win and missed lots of opportunities, but take away 14 points from the Bears because of special teams and this game isn’t even close. Along the same line, big props to the offensive line. Gross gotta get some love for handling Pep all day. Sure he got some pressure and a blocked FG (I could have blocked that one) but he was basically just an average player all day long. Piggy and Otah are having fun on the right. If we had a true FB I think it could be even better… look to FA or the draft next year to be a FB/TE combo if we lose Shockey.
3. DT an issue. WE won’t sign one THIS year. IF this is the year to get Cam ready, then its also the year to get 2 3rd rounders ready too. Next year look to DT in draft and maybe BIG FA pick up. Forte gashed us becasue we can’t control the point. BUT, give them a year and have them as 2-3 or even 3-4 DTs on roster along with Bgi $ and the Kracken… WOW.
4. I agree. Someone shoot L.A.
5. If this year is about learning… there is no reason why the goal should not to have deep run into playoffs next year. We need DT. #2 receiver, resign Shockey. Notice I have not said anything about the secondary… good game by them as well.
Well, back to lurking :)
XClown
Why Neblett?
He was inactive for this game, for some reason. When he’s in, he plays as well or better than Fua or McClain or Fields.
Nevertheless, if we had a true run stopper to clog the middle, and not give ground, or be blocked to the side so easily, guys like Forte wouldn’t find it so easy to get to the second level. And speaking of that, Dan Connor is not such a great rush defender, IMO – gets out of position too often and gets lost in the shuffle.
Panthers
When will the coaches bench/cut Nanee and let Armanti Edwards learn on the field? His explosive skills are being wasted on just being a punt returner, especially considering that our punt return blocking is atrocious! Nanee dropped at least 3 passes today and tipped a pass that he could have caught which costs the Panthers a Pick 6 and probably the game! If that had been Armanti he would have been benched immediately. Armanti deserves a chance to play and help this team!
Its the mystery of the decade...
I can no longer assume there is a reasonable answer, so I find my mind drifting to the inexplicable.
Parallel universe? Nannee blackmailing? Rivera has Nannee on his FF team? Nannee gives really good back rubs? Chud is nuts? Nannee makes Smitty look like superman? Nannee secretly saved the world from total annihilation and only Rivera knows about it and is rewarding him by fulfilling Naannee’s only dream (to drop passes from a REAL NFL quarterback)
by Panthster on Oct 2, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if Rivera has Nannee on his FF team,
he’d be more pissed than the rest of us.
...
well i was off again today on my prediction. I think im changing my stance on 8 or 9 wins this season. What scares me is ALL the games we lost, we could have easily won. To be honest that scares me more than blowout loses.
With blowout losses its easier to pinpoint problems or find the dead weight players and make adjustmets and thats fine. But with losses like these, where we play up to our full potential, and play our hearts out, that hurts a lot more because it says A. possibly more deeper mental or coaching issues going on or B. we just arent good enough no matter giving it our all.
screw “moral victories” i rather us just get blown out instead of these close games where we lose constantly
by NewtoniumPanthers57 on Oct 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'll take a close loss over being blown out anyday.
Thats what makes the games interesting, when it could go either way at any time of the game.
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that was not by any means our full potential
so many mistakes
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
“With blowout losses its easier to pinpoint problems or find the dead weight players”
you kidding me? i’m not sure you know what you’re saying. seriously, you need to write your comments, leave the computer for thirty minutes, and come back and re-read it before posting.
i dedicated this signature to my dog
Hes just pissed and frustrated
This is our therapy. I have been bitching about Natchocheez since we cut Clowney for him. After reading all these posts, I feel much better!
If your not upset about this game, your just not that into the Panthers or you’z taking to much Valium.
No. No. NO.
I couldn’t disagree more. I really don’t understand your logic here.
With a blowout loss, there’s usually nothing you can point at and say, “…there. That is the reason we lost.” In those kind of games, the team performance is just a laundry list of major suck ass, and a lot of coaches opt to not even hold a film session the day after, because there’s absolutely nothing of use to go over.
With a close loss you can say, “Forte killed us on the ground. Hester killed us in the return game. However, Cam was great, Smith was great, Naanee (still) needs to be benched, Williams showed promise for the first time this season, etc.” There are specific points to be made, good things to build on and bad things to work on.
Also, no way did we play today to our full potential. If our special teams unit played to their “full potential,” we win this one by two scores. If Mare played up to his “full potential,” we win this game by a point. If the refs called this game up to their “full potential,” the Shockey TD stands. And so on.
I love that you’re so opinionated here on CSR, but we’re miles apart on this one.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
All excellent points.
There is energy and passion with this team, not the stoic lethargy we saw last year.
It’s coming. Be patient. The road to the Super Bowl wasn’t built in a day.
What do you mean we can't pinpoint our problems?
205 rushing yards IS a problem.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
196 return yards is also a problem.
I’d say it’s pretty easy to pinpoint our problems.
A lot to be impressed by so far, despite the losses.
We’re competitive every game, and it’s always just a play or 2 that gets us beaten, not the total losertom that we exemplified last year.
And now the players are expressing extreme dissatisfaction with the outcomes, not taking it in stride like Fox had them doing.
I predict we catch the Saints by surprise next week, then win the next 2 home games (Skins and Minny), go to the bye 4-4, and by then all these mistakes will be corrected (costly penalties, especially) and we still have a chance at 8-8.
Can’t wait to read James’ Optimist post tomorrow, as there’s a LOT to be optimistic about.
Nobody said it would be easy. There are lessons being learned every quarter out there, that will serve our guys well in the future.
Going into the bye 3-5 or 4-4 would be a HUGE boost for this young team.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Absolutely not...
If the defense and ST can get their act together, we could most definitely be sitting at or near .500 at the bye week.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
My opinion of the game is this.
The offense did it’s job. If you can’t win with 29 points your defense has a problem. We all saw the problem, they let Forte run for 205 yards, even when we all knew they were going to run. The second thing is special teams. They need to learn how to tackle. There have been players around several of these long returns and missed the tackle. Then when we are returning, they can’t get a decent return without a penalty. Poor Edwards doesn’t even have elbow room when the ball reaches him. They need to get rid of Legadu Shanaynay and let Edwards step in and learn from experience, but other than that they are clicking on offense.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
I said Edwards but I meant Lafell, my bad.
Failure in a bold prediction bet/promise results in this sig.
Wonder If?
We maybe get to see Frank Kearse and Pilares get some extended playing time next week? Move Lafell to #2 for goodness sake and let Pilares play the slot. See how Kearse’s beef could plug up running lanes. Next year our first 2 picks need to be on defense to get a little more talent on that side of the ball. Sign another fucking punter please. Baker should have known better.
every time i watch the shockey call i get a little sick
i mean do the refs have it out for us? did shockey screw one of their wives? what the hell was with that call?
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
They can't fine ME, can they, if I think the guy who threw that late flag on Shockey is on the take?
Depends on if you tweet it or your boy tweets it
Better watch what you say, it will show up on your NFL ticket bill under the fines column. Its also a 15 yard penalty assessed during the next Panther game… so I hope you have a very large screen tv.
Has anyone given praise to the offensive line yet?
Not sure if it was mentioned above, but i want to make sure the offensive line gets some love. The Bears knew Cam was throwing on almost every down and that pocket held. Time and time again I was amazed by how well they did on passing downs, and if it did break down Cam was a Houdini and somehow got away. Run blocking was much better also. What a fun offense to watch. Every time they get the ball I know they will move it down the field. Now we just have to perform better in the Red Zone and stop killing our self’s with costly penalties. Go Panthers!!!
I like collard greens.
I love seeing that big beast of a right tackle out there.
He scares me in front of my tv. I can only imagine what it must be like across from him. I hope he can stay healthy. This line is starting to gel now. If it stays together the rest of the season the offense could turn itself into a new addition of the greatest show on turf!!!
I like collard greens.
Gross did a job on Peppers too.
CJ won the sack battle against his former teacher.
I like collard greens.
I was so close with my bold prediction.
I said Smith would break his single game receiving yard record, it was like 218 yards & he got 181…….. now I gotta learn how to change my sig, I forgot how.
Official member of the 2011 Panthers Mafia
Just curious about Lafell?
Everytime he seems to be on the field he will make a catch then get taken right back out of the game. Then all of a sudden Nanee seems to be targeted way to much on play calls after that. Almost it seems like that the staff is trying to show fans Nanee was a good pickup. Well it is not working. Go with the players that have been more productive on the field and that would be Lafell by a mile over Nanee. For God’s sake Nanee couldn’t even catch the 2 point conversion at the end of the game.
Just saw the National Anthem being sung for the ravens-jets game, and, maybe it is just me, but it pisses me off to not see these guys AT LEAST put their hand over their heart for it. I mean it doesn’t take anything to do that.
Be proud to be in a country where you get paid to do whatever you want to do for God-sake…
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I dunno...
Your comment kind of reminds me of the church I attend. During the final prayer, it is customary to raise your right hand in the air, to show you are a witness to the gospel. I choose not to. It’s not that I “felt the word” any less than anyone else, but the hand gesture doesn’t add anything to the ritual for me.
During any event I’ve attended when the National Anthem is played or sung, I usually just stand with my hands joined behind my back…and I promise you I’m not doing it to spite anyone or show lack of pride for my country. Just my personal preference. It’s not a sign of disrespect. Who’s to say that those who are holding their hands over their hearts aren’t silently cursing America’s name or belittling the entire Anthem concept in their mind during the song?
I guess my point is body language means diddly squat if your mind & heart is not genuine.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
News you're not in the spotlight of the nation
football players are products, and they are selling themselves to everyone. the majority of Americans are religious. though you have a point, they should be holding their hands over their hearts.
Who’s to say that those who are holding their hands over their hearts aren’t silently cursing America’s name or belittling the entire Anthem concept in their mind during the song?
i would think there’s a higher probability the guy not holding his hand over his heart is cursing America’s name, though i highly doubt anyone is :P
i dedicated this signature to my dog
Nobody said you had to participate in it pal.
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well I thought this was a football website not a site to discuss what defines true patriotism
let’s keep the comments to football, pal.
Technically this is about football...
Because the OP was about the National Anthem at the Ravens/Jets game.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
and even if it isn't
I don’t really give a shit. It makes the blog better if you ask me.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you should ignore it and talk about football and not about what other posters do that annoy you.
"Don't tell me about the pain, just bring me the baby" Cam Newton
by braves&panthers4ever on Oct 2, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really, it's more of excuse for someone to voice their political views
Which I don’t mind, but just not on this site. The conversation doesn’t directly have anything to do with the game of football. It’s sort of annoying if you ask me. Maybe I should start a conversation about whether or not it’s appropriate for teams to do a pre-game prayer.
It’s sort of annoying if you ask me.
Coming from the guy who quotes Hanson songs…
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I never said it wasn't annoying
And keep in mind that I got warned for those “oh so inappropriate” comments. That’s the difference here.
I know you did...
I don’t see any problem with the discourse that has resulted from someone bringing up the National Anthem at a football game that’s currently on television.
The difference between the two is the National Anthem comment facilitated discussion, while the mmm bop just pissed people off, and added nothing of any positive value to the overall experience of the blog.
However, if the National Anthem discussion does get out of hand, I will moderate accordingly.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Hmmmm...I pretty sure I didn't say "it's not annoying".....
But that doesn’t really matter. I admit that commenting “mmm bop” doesn’t add anything substantive to the conversation, but I think you are drastically overreacting when you say that it’s pissing people off. As far as I know you’re the only one that has gotten deeply upset over a nonsensical word written occasionally as the first comment on an internet blog. In fact, there has been several comments about how people thought it was funny. If you ask me, that’s adding “positive value to the overall experience of the blog”. Don’t you know that laughing burns calories? CSR is increasing your football knowledge while decreasing your waistline. People should be thanking me.
My "I know you did" was in reference to the other part of your comment...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
More people get upset over the “first comment on an internet blog” thing than you probably realize.
But it doesn’t really matter. I don’t think it has a place here, and I will maintain that belief. There’s really no need to argue it further.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
...
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn that pic came out big. Sorry.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well played.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Please stop doing this.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I'm talking about the mmm bop bull shit.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I knew what you meant.
It’s not my catch phrase anyway. First & last time I’ll post it, guaranteed.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I thought keebler posted it...lol my bad.
But still, please don’t do that, lol.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Because it's so freaking stupid.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
For me it's the troll like attitude
coming from someone with a troll that lives in a tree as their avatar.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
But damn if those cookies aren't DELICIOUS.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Fudge stripes and the white elf shaped ones with fudge in the middle
FTW
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm literally eating a fudge striped cookie as I type this reply.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
and this one...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
and this one...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Oct 2, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Gingerbread men are good too.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Oh man
Major F U for rubbing that in my face.
:)
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
If I lived near you I'd invite you to come over and eat cookies and drink milk with me...
And then eat all the cookies and drink all the milk before you got here.
Does that make you feel better? :-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
At least then I could beat some ass
for eating all the delicious cookies.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
lol you'd have plenty of ass to kick too...
every time I look at a cookie I put on 5 pounds
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I just recently became that way
Blame biology.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Your language is grotesque
I don’t appreciate people typing the S word. I’ll take Swords for $100, Alex.
If you're high, you're annoying.
If you’re drunk, you’re annoying.
If you’re sober…
Still annoying.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't pollute my mind with drugs and alcohol
I don’t succumb to peer pressure, brother. That stuff will bring you down just like cursing will. Remove the sin from your life man. You’ll be much happier.
Not sure how you took that as me partaking, but oh well.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad to hear you're straight edge, brother
That’s how I roll. I’m high on life while I’m busy being awesome.
I mean I drink, but nothing outrageous.
I mean shit, I’m a writer…
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it is just a simple gesture… don’t think it is to much to ask of pro athletes to do.
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i do put my hand over my heart
but two hands behind the back is very common, and in no way disrepectful
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with people not putting their hand over their heart...
But I do have a problem with people at least not being respectful of others and not talking on cell phones, etc. during the anthem.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Now THAT is something I do have a problem with.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
totally agree
i feel like hands in the pockets is a little disrespectful to. either over your heart or behind your back
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really have an issue with the way you stand, just so long as you respect the anthem.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
I don’t give a shit if you stand up with your finger up your nose or your thumb up your ass…I really don’t.
I have two simple rules during the National Anthem (of any country):
1. Stand up.
2. Shut up.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Fo' shizzle B Wizzle.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
B Wizzle?
(I secretly love this.)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Do you like B Weezie more or less than B Wizzle?
Cuz I can make either one work.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
B Weezie sounds like something off "The Jeffersons"
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
lol
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 2, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a funny show.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
How about the murderer Ray Lewis, who didn't serve any time, tearing up during "the land of the FREE"
Guess free holds a special meaning to a guy who’s playing football but should be in jail
Is the sunday night football video on NBC screwed up for anyone else?
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
yes, you in Charlotte?
My cable’s boned on all of the OTA channels and the digital NBC is fubar’d. Have to watch in a static storm.
nah in chapel hill
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
switched it over to HD and it's working fine
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
by SouthernPanther on Oct 2, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Have their people call our people when they turn this early season success into a Super Bowl trip.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
mark sanchez is so overrated
"Don't put off til tomorrow what you can put off til the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain
I'm probably going to get blasted for this but,
Cam needs to play better. Beside the obvious gaping hole that is our D line, Cam needed to make more plays than he made today. These two things directly lost the game for us. We can blame the penalties and bs calls, but reality these are things everyone deals with. We need to find a way to win when given the opportunity.
We had more than enough opportunities today. And if we would have been scoring, Martz would have been throwing. You know it was killing him running the ball, even though we couldn’t stop it.
We could have gotten to Cutler and forced more turnovers. Their OL is babbage.
Leaving points on the field is far too common a sight in only 4 games. I know Cam is a rookie, but I’m setting the bar high for him, and I want more. I believe he will get there soon. Once he does it’s over. #2012Panthers!!
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by Thee Steve Johnson on Oct 2, 2011 9:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Normally I'd agree with you based on the points we left on the field...
But I can’t pin this on Cam. We had several TD’s taken away by stupid penalties, and we gave up two TD’s due to poor ST play.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
lol...yeah, you probably will.
374 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 35 rushing yards, 2 rushing TDs…
Do you want Cam gunning on special teams, too? Sheesh.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
You forgot about playing defense.
He could have probably held Forte to under 100 yards.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
And he definitely would have made that 52 yard field goal, right?
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Eggs Zachary.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
The only mistake Cam made all day is he kept throwing to Nannee.
I like collard greens.
by Bruce Guild on Oct 2, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Too many dropped balls to blame Cam.
He played out of his mind today. Bad officiating, awful special teams play, poor play calling, and a porous run defense were all to blame for today’s loss. In my opinion, the special teams play cost us the most. Not only did they give up two huge TD’s, they surrendered field position on nearly every play. Seemed like the Bears started at, or around, the 40 yard line every time.
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Yeah, you're right - maybe Clausen needs to take over, huh?
Newton throws for 1 TD, rushes for 2 more, and has 2 EZ TDs called back by penalties (which he didn’t commit) – what a slacker.
As I said elsewhere, if we only hold our opponents to 20 points in the 3 losses, we’re undefeated. Is that too much to ask? Maybe you might concentrate your frustration where it’s most needed.
I disagree
Jay Cutler won while going 9-17, barely 100 yds, and 0 TDs.
Cam tripled that production and lost! If EVERYONE ELSE plays as well as Cam, we are sitting starters in the 4th quarter of this game.
The rookie did his job…
Don't give an inch...but take every yard you can!
by PantherNationn on Oct 3, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Dammit, I’m going to lose my FF game for the fourth straight time because the jets offense sucks so bad… going to lose to the baltimore defense… fml
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I'll have to agree
ST killed us from touchdowns,great field position, and taken away sure punts(peppers block) should be 4-0. lets shock them saints next week.
"I Love It When A Plan Comes Together" Hannibal The A Team
Got to love how fired up Smitty is about Cam and RR (from The Growl)
"That’s our leader," Smith said of Rivera. "That is the guy who is charging down the hill and he doesn’t have a water pistol. He has a gun just like the rest of us and we’re following him. That’s what we’re going to do."
Here is the link if it has not already been posted : http://www.carolinagrowl.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1086:game-notes-shockey-upset-over-officials-call-that-reversed-td-catch&catid=1:articles
I like collard greens.
I love this quote
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Thanks for the link!
There are some great quotes in there. For those who don’t click, I have to copy and paste the Shockey section (and this is from Steve Reed at Carolina Growl):
"We pay their salary and I can’t get an explanation," Shockey said. "So I would like to see the explanation when (the officials) do get graded. I don’t understand. I have no idea. There were a couple of things out there where I asked them the question and they don’t tell me (anything). They should be held accountable as well. They get paid a lot of money. They get to hang out and do whatever they do before the game and fly for free and do all kinds of (stuff) for free. So it’s very disappointing and disheartening. I don’t know what else to say.
"I haven’t seen the film yet, but I know for a fact the flag was thrown after I was in the end zone and I was by myself. I hope the league reviews it because I’m baffled. I don’t know what the (expletive) they were thinking. He had no words for it. He said to move on to the next play and soon the (expletive) game is over."
Shockey also revealed that he has been playing with a broken finger since the first week of the season and plans to see a specialist soon. There’s no indication at this point that he’ll miss any time.
Interesting to not that he’s been playing with a broken finger. I had no idea. But, more importantly, I love that Shockey has that much fire in him.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
There's a positive! =)
Yes, the O-line was good. They actually managed to open up some holes for the run game, and they continued to impress in pass protection. Gross held up his end today, and I’m still incredibly impressed by Byron Bell while he rotated in and out with Otah.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Curry
Any word on Aaron Curry? IMO he would be an upgrade at our WLB poss right now.
I'd like to get him
I think we could use an athletic LB. but i see him going to Philly, they have to strong of a need there not to jump on it
Smh @ Philly
Didn’t they get enough players this off season? Or r they just going to collect players till they get it right?
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