Defense and Falcons-Forced Mistakes Cost Panthers
by Bill Voth on Oct 16, 2011 8:43 PM EDT
in Panthers Game Recaps
Email
PrintIt’s widely assumed the 2011 Carolina Panthers are much better than the 2010 version. They’ve found a potential franchise quarterback and their offense has gone from woefully inept to one of the more exciting units in the NFL. But the stat that matters most looks all too familiar. Last year’s Panthers started 1-5. After Sunday’s loss in Atlanta, these Panthers are 1-5.
The theme against the Falcons was mostly the same as it was in the first four losses this season. It was a game the Panthers could have won but didn’t because of mistakes and a suspect defense. But add a third reason to this loss: The Falcons created their own breaks.
With less than a minute to go before halftime, the Panthers were set up at the Atlanta 10 yard line. At worst, a field goal would send them to the break down 14-13. Even better, Cam Newton saw an open Steve Smith in the end zone. Then a William Moore fingertip changed the trajectory of not only the ball, but of the halftime score.
"He got his hand up on it and was doing exactly what he was supposed to do," Newton explained. "It was another set of points we took off the table."
While the deflection shows up in the box score as an interception from Newton to Brent Grimes, the play was made by Moore’s flailing tip. It’s hard to pin too much blame on the rookie quarterback for that pass or for the one he made later that essentially ended the Panthers chances.
Sure, Newton will perhaps learn a better "feel" for the fourth quarter screen pass he tried to lob to DeAngelo Williams. But it was mostly just a smart and, strangely enough, athletic play by the 305 pound defensive tackle Corey Peters.
"He just backed up. It was an excellent play by him," Newton said.
The Falcons also went at the Panthers where they’re most vulnerable defensively. Despite looking slower for much of this season, Michael Turner chewed up yards on the ground. Add him to the list: James Starks, Maurice Jones-Drew, Matt Forte and Turner have all had their best rushing games of the year against the Panthers.
"Michael Turner is a good running back, but if we play like we’re capable of playing, we shut him down," Panthers defensive tackle Terrell McClain said.
It’s nice that McClain said his team could shut down a running back like Turner. McClain may actually even believe that, but it’s not realistic. Injuries have combined with inexperience to make the Panthers defense susceptible to the gashing they took Sunday.
No matter how well Newton and the offense play this year, it’s clear they’re going to have to make up for what the defense lacks. The problem is Newton and the offense will most likely continue to make mistakes other, more experienced teams could possibly get away with. They could also use some bounces to go their way, and Sunday, the Falcons made sure that didn’t happen.
Despite their similar records and a somewhat worse defense, the Panthers are better than they were a year ago at this time. But time is what they need to truly show improvement in the win/loss column.
"We can’t make mistakes," Panthers head coach Ron Rivera said. "We’re too young and we’re developing. We can’t do those things to hurt ourselves."
258 comments
|
2 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
CAN'T TAKE IT
I knew we would suck this year, but it sucks even more when you are competitive in every game & still lose. #worseloseofdayear!
I couldn't agree less...
Nothing compares to last year when we would go out there and wouldn’t even be competitive for most of the season.
This team lack disclipine
, every week the same mistakes such as turnovers, penalties etc are hurting this team. Is their any adjustments being made stopping the run? If I’m the redskins I run down their throats all damn day. Can I see a game with the rb’s combine for 25-30 carries? Passing 30-40 timesa game isn’t helping. Since the defense sucks so damn ball, play ball control offense to have 6 to 9 mintues scoring drive.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Run More
yea, it would be nice 2 run more, but as long as we got this D, we aint guna win much. ALso, im beginning to realize y McDermott was fired last yr
I never liked the McDermott sign
I was ok with Rivera but i really didn’t want McDermott (I was hoping Meeks would keep the job) and so far he’s proving me right. His blitz schemes are too predictable (they only ever blitz from one side and you can always tell when and where they are blitzing) and he always has the LBs dropping back. Of course they will run all over us with the linebackers are back peddling off the snap. River talking about wanting the LBs to play forward but so far all they do is drop back
Keep the Faith
Pretty much sums it up. The defense lacks not only talent but proper technique a lot of tackles are too high and angles are all wrong. These are things i believe can be fixed…(maybe not under Mcdermot) but with more talent added and better coaching that side of the ball should come along and pull more of their weight. Offense still firing on a amazing pace compared to last year..Id still like to see Stewart start and get a bigger bulk of the work load. He has simply out played Williams at every area this season rather its blocking, catching , or running. Cam got a little rattled when ATL brought pressure and a lot of his passes was sailing a bit high. Some great catches by the TE’s and WR’s was hiding that but better placed ball on some and who knows maybe we break one. All in all this team is still just on the edge. The day the defense shows up we will win but until then Cam and company will just continue to progress as the defense trys to catch up. Future is still bright in Carolina so fans don’t need to get too upset. This season will have its heartache but it will only make this group of guys that much tougher and hungrier going forward. The bond his much greater then it was a year ago and the new schemes will become second nature..but for now its just patience and faith until we get over the hump and move on to greatness…Go Panthers!
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
Small correction
Pretty sure that was the first time we’ve thrown a screen to DWill all season, and why it looked so damn awkward.
Sure, Newton will perhaps learn a better “feel” for the fourth quarter screen pass he tried to lob toJonathan StewartDeangelo Williams.
Yeah, I caught that too
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
first one then the other
it seems like every year we have a huge weakness on one side of the ball. We’re never stout on both. Im glad that were at least competitive this year but, the problems with disipline and defensive play are just ridiculous. these are things that should have been corrected by week 4 yet here we still being beaten by the same demons. …………oh well maybe week 7 will be the charm. lets get a win against the Skins.
No lets don’t, we need to lose every single game the rest of the season. We are at the point know where this season is trashed. Worse thing we can do is go 5-11 and get a mediocre draft pick with crappy trade value. I hope we get the 1st pick in the draft and get a slew of players and/or trade.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is ignorant at best, PT.
You’re better than that.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we sure about that?
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I'm basing this off my belief that EVERYONE, even PT, is better than that.
But I realize this is a Utopian pipe dream...
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that word...
utopia
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
I get excited when I can use it :)
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
TWHS
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Oct 16, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's what he definitely said.
So rare.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL...
I love this subthread.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
I'm sure you do ;-)
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
“Suspect defense” I LOLd @ suspect. Their is no “suspecting” this defense sucks. Our defense sucks just as sure as OJ “did it” Writing is on the wall. Our defense is complete and utter trash. Intact, it’s so bad you might as well just not put our defense on the field, that’s how bad it is. With all due respect to Mills,There is more of a chance the ghost of Sam Mills will come back as a ghost and force a turn over then our defense being out there.
Fua, Mcclain, Pugh, Sherrod Martin and whoever else not names Beason, Connor, Hardy and Johnson need to be fired along with McDermott pure and simple
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lets fire two rookie DT’s and guy who had to leave because he was sick…and the Sam Mills line was over the top with all due respect or not
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
I’m sorry but our defense is so pathetic and awful to watch, it brings out the worst in me. Makes me sick how bad they play. Makes me sick seeing Ron Rivera stand on the sidelines looking like he’s clueless and doesn’t give a crap.
Scrap Rivera, scrap McDermott. Bring in Gruden or Cower and whoever else for D coordinator. Bow down to Shula and Chud for being true god sends for Cam and our offense, and let’s start playing real football.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you actually take the time to read some of the stuff you say?
Or are you just saying it to get replies?
Calm down man…we’re not firing Rivera and McDermott to bring in Gruden and/or Cowher. That would be the dumbest thing we could ever do.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Oct 16, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why? When I watch other GOOD NFL teams their head coaches all have excellent side line presence. They challenge plays, they encourage their players after good plays, they interact, they get fired up. All Rivera do is stand there, he has no chemistry or chraisma.
Head coach is just as important as QB. Rivera has been in the coaching biz for years. Then you have guys like Harbaugh who are out of college and take the crappy 49ers and make them contenders and that’s with Alex Smith as the QB.
You either haveeadership skills or you don’t. Hell I’d even be ok with bringing in a veteran head coach and move Rivera to D coordinator.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Like I said before
Go be a Niners fan, I don’t think you’ll be missed all that much.
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
The 49ers have a lot more talent than we do.
And Alex Smith is pretty decent this year.
Face it: we’re a young team, and we weren’t doing anything this year anyway. Anyone who thought differently was in denial.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Seriously though, I think the FO should seriously consider bringing in another head coach and move Rivera to D coordinator if things don’t improve. That’s very rational thinking and maybe Rivera realizes he is just better at being D coordinator. I like Rivera as a person and would still love him on the team. We would then have a veteran head coach and Rivera would be considered a veteran D coordinator and a hell of a defensive coordinator.
Id persoanally like Gruden of that happened. A prove winner, tons of experience, a good player’s coach and he already likes Cam AND he’s already coached a small market NFC south team. Sign Gruden, move Rivera to D coordinator= Super Bowl champs within 2-3 years.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LULZ
That’s very rational thinking and maybe Rivera realizes he is just better at being D coordinator.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we could let Rivera build his team and still be a Super Bowl team in 2-3 years.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
can you ban people for being borderline retarded?
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
We could pretend like he's actually not retard and just trolling?
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not trolling. I’m making very valid arguments. All I’m saying is if we go nowhere with Rivera as head coach then the next rational thing would be move him to the spot where he is a proven winner like D coordinator and bring in a Vet like Gruden for head coach.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These aren't valid arguments.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you are saying that after 6 freaking games! if you dont realize that is irrational then you are more idiotic than i thought
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
You think you're making a valid argument?
You don’t fire a head coach after one year with the shortened offseason. You give him a few years to build his program.
Gruden as head coach would be just as bad if not worse than what we have now…we’d still be 1-5, and we’d probably have changed QB’s three times by now like they did in TB under Gruden.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I need to know.
How old are you?
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Im 27, here is my facebook if some dont believe me. http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1547357212
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
VALID arguments
Are based in fact. Valid arguments would at the very least sound like you know something about football. The things you’ve posted the last few days are neither. Sorry just calling it like I see it.
"Beer, both the cause of and solution to all of life's little problems." - Homer Simpson
by Kris Mynatt on Oct 16, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Name one time in the history of the NFL that a team moved someone from head coach to a coordinator with the same team?
by JStewart28 on Oct 17, 2011 12:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude!..it's his FIRST year bro...chill out!...
It’s just as painful for me to watch it as you..if not more so because I have to stay up late night to watch it because I’m over seas…but really men..we are improving…a littel at a time..Rivera has already showed no patience for players that aren’t performing..If he believes there is a better potioni out there he has not been shy to make it happen. I’m not expecting to win a wild card this year..just give it time…when you started working they didn’t put you on the register..you had to work your way up from the fries first…
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
LOL
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 17, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Not saying I do, just saying I might...
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 17, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
For the record, Alex Smith is a 7 year vet
and the 49ers were a 6-10 team last year.
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Most so called experts had them in the running
For Luck, so no one had them being good. The Rams were the consensus pick to win the division.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually your right about Martin, keep him. Only guy on this god forsaken defense who knows the meaning of I N T E R C E P T I O N
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh so we're gonna fire Chris Gamble
Who held Roddy White to I think two catches. Yes, let’s fire him. Fire everyone RABBLERABBLE
"Excuses are a disease." -Cam Newton
teams can sweep all day
every team weve played has been able to run around the edge. you’d think we’d have fixed it by now. But every game i see rb after rb get around the edge and pick up big yards
THIS JUST IN
I read on another blog that Cam’s agent said he didnt like Carolina, & didnt believe the Panthers could build a team around him! Anybody else seen that? I dont it’s true, just makes me think of LeBron though!
Uhh oh. Hope not true but sadly I wouldn’t be suprised. Cam wants a super bowl ring and fast. I think he even knows he won’t get one this year, but if we don’t build this team soon to contend he will pull a Lebron after 4 years, mark my words.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dude honestly????
do us a favor, every time you write a comment take a deep breath then reread it before you decide to hit post.
Yes I'm a dude.
by Flowing Willow on Oct 16, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
For example of blind leading blind see here
by James Dator on Oct 16, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Holy Shit! You mean we're not going to win the Super Bowl this year?!
That is just unacceptable. I’m sure Cam will be demanding a trade before the deadline this Tuesday. Oh well…Anderson looked pretty decent in the preseason, so we should be OK…
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
Why would Bus Cook, an agent who has been in business since 1976 say anything like that?
Lets rely on real outlets hear, lest we become the blind leading the blind.
somebody made that comment on ch-observer. I don’t believe it, but didnt know if anybody else had seen it as well.
Dont go onto the Observer if you are naive….Cam has stated before he loves it hear…We showed faith in him when everybody else was being negative. He has a lot of respect for both Ron Rivera and Jerry Richardson..if in 5 years we aren’t any better id worry but as of right now? Its BS and nothing to worry about. Cam clearly stated while at Auburn he wasn’t LBJ and didn’t want to be put into the same category. He said he respects Lebron but would have done things differently had he been in his shoes. I honestly feel Cam will remain loyal to the franchise that took the risk when everybody else was screaming Fake Bust Scam etc.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
good point
as I stated earlier, I didnt believe it…
Yeah there is nothing to be gained by his agent saying this even if Cam actually felt this way
and I don’t think this is indicative of the way he feels. He’s from the south and played his college ball in the south. I think he feels at home here, and believes he could be a legendary sports figure in Charlotte when all is said and done.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Sounds like Grade A Bullshit.
Six. Games.
SIX.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I wish Meeks was still our DC
2009 and 2010 were very solid defensive seasons. 2010’s D really surprised me considering all the shitty situations the O put them in. I may be missing something but I feel like the only blitzing plays involving DB’s that has been effective were the ones that involved Munnerlyn. Maybe he’s better/faster at getting to the QB or maybe he’s absolutely terrible in coverage without any help. I felt we did a better job at stuffing the run between the tackles. The sweeps….omg they’ve been raping us. I miss our linebackers.
I strongly disagree
The gradual deteriorating of our DL has been obvious while Meeks has been DC, and the players picked up to fit his scheme is the entire reason our run defense has been on a slide since his hiring. While he’s been good with the secondary, his front seven knowledge is atrocious.
The DC Doesn't Draft His Players & Sorting Through The Leagues Castoffs For Help Isn't The Answer, Yet Most Poster Want To Pass Up The Defense Again & Draft A WR In The 1st Round
by PanthersRoar on Oct 16, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
we moved towards the Colts-style defensive lineman in the past two drafts, conveniently, as soon as the old Colts DC comes in
Irvin, Brown, Norwood. None of these picks fit what we’re doing now. Its basically a three pick setback.
somethings got to change
we cant win the when Cam throws three picks. yes i realize he is a rookie but he almost thrown as many picks had touchdown passes. the defense has to improve they given up 30 point in all but two of the games, and one of those was the arizona game when they gave up 28. I don’t know what the answer is but somethings got to change or this team is going to go 1 and 15
That 1st pick in the endzone was completely Chud’s fault. Why in the blue hell are you going for a pass play on that drive?!? When Stewie has been pounding it all day and scored a rushing TD the previous drive. I don’t care if Smith was open or not, that was a bad bad play call.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The pick in the endzone was the LB's fault for making an amazing play.
Nothing more, nothing less. Stop blaming people who aren’t at fault. You’re better than that.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Oct 16, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
William M made the play on the ball that resulted
On Grimes intercepting it.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So 7 runs for 48 yards is pounding all day?
Wow. William M made a great play by tipping the pass for Grimes to intercept it. The Panthers came back in the 2nd half to stain the league. They can’t close out games when they need to. Good for 3 quarters then collapse in the 4th.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 9:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow...
I don’t care if Smith was open or not, that was a bad bad play call.
You, sir, are worth the price of admission. Fascinating stuff.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
by Newsinz on Oct 16, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
dude I bust my balls laughing at this.lmao...... for your reply, you sir. are worth admission as well!
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge,
but rather in a lack of will.
- Vince Lombardi
by Tommy_The_Pantherian on Oct 17, 2011 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
And while I’m in venting mode. What the hell is up with D Will. D Will is a great guy personally, he’d be a guy I’d love to hang out with and it really pains me to say this. But why does he suck so much at cutting back? He’s always fallIng down, Stewie pounds that rock in there and doesn’t stop. D Will runs a couple steps and just falls. Irritates the crap out me. And I really hate to call him out like that because he’s such a good guy.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if u read espn
the people commenting on the game actually r still talking bad on Cam. Some even said our D is pretty good…UNBELIEVABLE!
Opinions are like asshole every body has one. If your easily mislead or offended then dont read the comments. Normally Panther comments out side of CSR are moronic.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
Especially PFT
Its like people try to see who can say they most douche bag comment. If we had a D we would be in good shape. I said a week ago that I thought the D was on the cusp of being good but it looks like they have regressed slightly or the teams we are playing have beeter run games. I think Rivera is a good coach just btw so no one thinks I’m jumping on the bash Rivera wagon.
by doug2626 on Oct 16, 2011 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some people believe we have a great D
because we had a reputation for having the best D line and a very good defense back when Jenkins, Peppers, Bukner and Rucker were here. They are long gone, but that reputation may still linger with folks who don’t pay any attention to this team.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
ESPN comment boards are like the CO comment boards times 100.
More national exposure, which draws trolls from all over the globe.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
PantherTrain...
why are you a fan of this team when you hate everything about them?
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
My theory is because "49erTrain" was not available when he signed up.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I find his OMG Cam is the GOAT and we're winning the super bowl shtick equally annoying.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I love this team. I’ve been a fan for at least 7 years and have never liked another team. I just want greatness for us so bad. I just wish Hurney could be more aggressive at getting solid talent. I never hate this team it just saddens me seeing all the screw ups, I see other crappy teams that now have success and I want that so bad for our team.
I’m upset that we never seem to catch a break on both the little and big things. I mean my god, what other team on earth has a PAT blocked?!? Little things like that or big things like Hurney passing up on Jacoby Ford. I mean you look at decisions like that and think WTF!
And then you see guys out there like Aaron Curry who was dying to play here and we could have gotten him for practically free and we pass up on him.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The fact that the Seahawks paid 3.2 million of his salary just to get rid of him tells me we didn't need him.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
And it's a realy stretch to say he was dying to play here.
This based off of a few Twitter comments saying “lol yeah I’d play there.”
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder how Curry did today btw. Our luck he stopped 5 runs and had 3 sacks
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 9:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
3 tackles. That's it.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit we shoulda got him...he could have made those tackles for us.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
LOL
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You joke, but linebackers making tackles is a novelty for the Panthers.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
patience Rome wasn’t built in a day. You do not get a New HC new DC new OC new QB with no mini camps or OTAs and expect the Superbowl or even the Playoffs. We are playing extremely well all things considering. Our Defense can only get better and the Offense will continue to grow..Having been a fan since this teams inception i can assure you we are on the verge of something this franchise has never seen.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
Deep down I know this to but I just hope it happens sooner rather than later. I’m just so concerned that the more losses that pile up what’s it going to do to Cam’s attitude and mental well being. I really hope he I more Jordan when it comes to losing and less VY. Last thing we need is a story of Cam gone missing and hiding in his mom’s basement like VY lol
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 10:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The 49ers have a new coaching staff from headcoach
Etc and they are doing well. The titans have a new staff and they are doing fine. Those teams are disclipine, not blowing coverage, have better run defense etc. This team lacks disclipine.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Those teams also have a lot more veterans who already understand football at the NFL level. Ron Rivera has a young team who just got from under the rock of John Fox.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The bengals having alot if veteran players,
They are in a youth movement at Qb, Wr, an tend. The only true experierence they have on offense is OLine. As the defense. You make a point, along the titans and 49ers being veteran like teams.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bengals while young have drafted a ton of offensive talent and the rookie QB is benefiting from it. If you notice our veteran side isn’t struggling offense. It is the defense that need all the help. Also happens to be the youngest. Coaches can only coach guys up so fast and defenses around the league are struggling and that is with far better talent.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I do the offense isn't the problem, everyone can see that.
The vegans have youth on defense as well, luckily the dc gas been their for years to establish continuity.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
vegans?
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Sorry about meant the bengals.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 11:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dude...
Get over it! Curry is a bust. Have you considered that they would give him up and pay most of his salary is a sign that he just SUCKS?
"Beer, both the cause of and solution to all of life's little problems." - Homer Simpson
but Curry is the greatest linebacker EVER Seatle just didn't know it
by doug2626 on Oct 16, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the “greatness” you so desire is just around the corner if you can keep it in your pants long enough to see it. All these “crappy teams” that are being successful now had seasons that were probably very similar to what this season will be for us.
The 2010 Buffalo Bills were 4-12 and started the season 0-8.
The 2011 version is is 4-2 so far and could potentially win the AFC East.
The 2010 Detroit Lions were 6-10.
The 2011 version is 5-1 through 6 weeks.
Have some patience and greatness will come.
I miss the players Ron Meeks had...like Beason and Davis
just sayin…
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
by BW Smith on Oct 16, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Love for Ken Lucas
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
I miss Ricky Manning
(sigh)… Oh, 2003
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
To compare the defenses....
Meeks (2010): 336 yards allowed per game (18th), 212 pass yards allowed (11th), 124 rush yards (23rd)
McDermott (2011): 359 yards allowed per game (16th), 219 pass yards allowed (11th), 140 rush yards (31st)
In this instance I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder…. because allowing 23 extra yards per game, playing a tougher schedule, in your first season, without your All-Pro middle linebacker is pretty good in my book.
by James Dator on Oct 16, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep...
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
The 2010 D was on the field for much longer.
Not that I’m advocating putting Meeks back in control, I’m just pointing it out.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
the D needs some help
i personally think we need to get a big d takle to help take the some pressure off the linebackers, any ideas on whos out there
We have one he is on IR. Adding another wouldn’t hurt. Personally at this stage Fua and McClain both look more like rotation guys than starters but both are young as is the system
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
I may be wrong but I see flashes from them of being good. I may be in the minority but with the players we have on IR and thinking they will draft well. I like the way this year is going. There is improvement. Cam is getting invaluable expierience. I thought we would get more wins. but this franchise is going places.
by doug2626 on Oct 16, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not gonna happen this year
and from what I’ve heard, the draft is pretty weak at DT position this year. So hopefully we will make a good FA pickup at that position in the offseason.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
yea i just wonder what happened to pat williams i know he got the whole suspension, but i dont know when that ends
Pat W suspension been ended, was only giving
2 games just like will smith, Kevin W.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if no DT
we need Blackmon…this draft doesn’t look 2 impressive defensively
why does the #3 ranked offense need a WR?
We MUST draft defense…it’s our weak spot.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I'd be fine drafting a WR if we pick up a solid DT in FA.
Other than that I hate the idea.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Smitty aint getting any younger, & do u really trust Nannee? Laffell? Im sayin no need @ waste the pick, get best player…it doesnt seem 2b any Defensive studs out there
DUH since Gettis is on the IR He doesn't exsist
So we have to draft one next year.
by doug2626 on Oct 16, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Thompson or Kirkpatrick both could help. I know our passing defense has looked decent but the league is only getting more and more pass heavy and at 6’2 Kirk gives you the size we desperately need at that CB.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Gettis and Lafell are coming on and #2 means less with TE’s being use so heavily. I think we could either stay put at WR or add a vet from FA. I think Defense is the pressing need
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
do u think Gettis/Laffell have more potential than Blackmon? Im just sayin. I know D needs ALOT of help, but Blackmon may b the next megatron
He's not the next Megatron...he's too short.
Megatron is big and fast. Blackmon is fast, that’s about it.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I think he's 6'1"
Megatron is 6’3" or 6’4"….those 2-3 inches make a huge difference (TWSS).
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
NP
Don’t get me wrong, I like Blackmon (like Jeffery more though)…but we need defensive help more than we need a WR.
We can get a DT in the first round and get a WR like Jeff Fuller in the 2nd round if we need to get a WR.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Megatron is 6 freaking 5, close to 240.
He’s out of hand big.
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
...
….those 2-3 inches make a huge difference (TWSS)
You have no idea. =)
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
lol
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You're trying to set up a cult following on here aren't you? =P
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Blackmon is 6’0..6’1 maybe. While he would be a very nice addition this current team has many more glaring holes then WR. Not to mention we still have Gettis, Lafell, Pilhares Armanti as young projects. Drafting more only signs the pink slip for a wasted draft pick
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
not to be a dick but you just compared Blackmon to Megatron so your perception of players aren’t exactly the best. Google NFL 2012 Draft prospects and research for yourself. Much easier to learn that way
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
when ppl say “not to be a…..”, they usually r about 2 b one…next time, save the “not to be…”, and just be the dick u r….
Not a problem im just trying to help you out.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
is a very nice DE prospect. One of the best in the draft i just don’t know if we will go that direction
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tall CB's with skill and speed are a valuable commodity
You’ve peaked my interested. I’m gonna have to do a little research on Kirkpatrick.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Kirkpatrick remains me
of Antoine C, which is inconsistent at best. Has trouble covering smaller receivers in zone coverage. At best he needs to be in a bump and run cover scheme to reach his potential.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wednesday is the first day he can practice.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I think we go BPA
and if that is a receiver, so be it
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. If push comes to shove and we dont want a DT in the 1st round then we gotta take Dre Kirkpatrick. 6’2 180 LB corner.
by PantherTrain on Oct 16, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone is saying how much they miss Meeks
But we forget how awful his D was during the first half of his first season. McD will take longer due to the very light DL Meeks style called for. We’re not going to smack anyone in the mouth on D until we get some experienced fattys in the middle. Also, remember we’re missing two of our most talented players (Beast and Davis).
Losing really sucks, but we’re headed in the right direction. We only need a couple of pieces on defense to put things together enough to make a playoff run next year.
This
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 16, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah… and that’s worked great for the Eagles….
They’ve been screaming about McDermott’s firing for 5 weeks now.
by James Dator on Oct 16, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be screaming too, if my team's DC was replaced by an offensive line coach!
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Everyone said the same of Meeks
The argument roughtly went “He never fielded a good defense in Indy so why did we get him?”.
Fua and McClain are McD selections (or Rivera selections at least). They're not Meeks DLman.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
Legedu had a good game today IIRC
the only mistake I remember was the holding call
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
its not so much his mistakes but the timing
That hold was at the worst possible time. His drops are at the worst possible time. He just isn’t clutch.
Yeah
I wonder if we will see Ponder by the time the Vikes roll into town
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It won't matter....AP is going to destroy us.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Lol
maybe we could put 9 guys in the box
"Panther Pride" -Sir Purr
by Son of a Newton on Oct 16, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That wont help
the lb are slow running sideline to sideline. Can’t tackle worth a shit, the Dbs take poor angles on run defense.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hester is a freak...
just took a kick back for a TD
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
so what does minnesota do?
punt to him…and he gets a 30 yard return…
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That's all the punter could do backed up against the back of the endzone - kick it as far as possible.
You can’t mess about with directional punts when the only thing behind you are the fans.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
That return would have been perfect if he'd flashed the 'U'. Sadly not.
"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury
i think 4-5
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I still say 5-6.
I never had the Falcons game penciled in as a win anyway. Furthermore, I think the bye-week does wonders for this team.
by James Dator on Oct 16, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I still say we go 5-11
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I say 5
The Vikes and the Colts are highly winnable. Plus I think we take at least 1 game in the division. There’s a good chance we good be victorious next week. The Redskins seem to be coming back down to earth after the fast start.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
we could be victorious...i meant
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
The Vikings isn't an easy win,
heck Adrain P can run for 200 yards on them. Again Curtis P would look like Peyton M playing this defense. They can’t stop no one.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 10:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No they aren't easy wins
There are no easy wins for us, but they are winnable.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
Yup which is where majority of us has us at the beginning of the year anyways. The Offense and Cam has been better than anyone could expect so i think it has lead to some unhealthy and unrealistic expectations we are still a very young football team who needs a lot of work and a lot of coaching. Majority of the 2nd year guys were ignored last by our previous staff so even they are behind in development.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i too believe the bye week does the team wonders
~A bullet may have your name on it...but grenades are addressed 'to whom it may be concerned...'
by boywonderncsu on Oct 16, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm counting on a core group of players to dedicate themselves...
even more than they already have in the offseason.
Remaining Schedule:
Week 7: vs. Washington (W)
Week 8: vs. Minnesota (W)
Week 9: BYE
Week 10: vs. Tennessee (W)
Week 11: @ Detroit (L)
Week 12: @Indianapolis (W)
Week 13: @ Tampa Bay (L)
Week 14: vs. Atlanta (W)
Week 15: @ Houston (L)
Week 16: vs. Tampa Bay (L)
Week 17: @ New Orleans (L)
So I can see us going 6-10, more likely 5-11, maybe 4-12, worst case 3-13
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
As bad as minny is, they have AP. AP will run all over us and have his best game this season… we have already set that precedent for several RB’s this season.
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
if we can keep AP out the red zone and keep them to FG’s we got a chance.
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 16, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ya know...
I knew Turner was gonna gash us, he always has…but i feel like we have always stepped our game up against AP. i remember when we played him at the end of 2009 (best game i’ve ever been to, when favre was playing for them), and we absolutely shut him down running the ball. he had 1 long reception in garbage time
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
That was the first game I ever went to
I remember thinking that it was probably a lot of people’s best game, the atmosphere was electric. For the record I was also at Cam’s debut in Phoenix last month, which was also amazing, and will be at this Sunday’s game against the Redskins, so I’m hoping my streak of spectacular games continue.
i will also be at the skins game this weekend.
can’t wait
"The way y'all are lollygaggin around here with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was 120 degrees...can't be more than 114."
by SouthernPanther on Oct 16, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome! I will be as well. Anymore CSR’ers gonna be in attendance?
Proud Member of Cat Scratch Reader and coiner of the (minus Bowers) meme
I like McDermott
I think we can’t blame the defensive woes on McDermott. We have Rivera, who led the #1 ranked defense last year, and our former DC in Ron Meeks. Those guys can do a lot, but it’s hard when you look at the talent we’re working with. We have 2 rookie DTs starting, Beason and TD are hurt, only 1 CB is worthy o fbeing a #1, and the rest are glorified nickelbacks. The talent and experience isn’t there. There is no way McDermott’s defense intentionally leaves the whole middle of the field open all the time. Our defense needed OTAs and TC more than the offense. I think we’ll see real improvement in a couple weeks, but you also have to look at who we’ve played.
We were 2-14 last year. This year we’ve played against the defending SB champs (Packers), defending NFC North champs (Bears), team with best record in NFC last year (Falcons), 2009 Superbowl Champs (Saints). The Cardinals game was the first game of CAM’s career, and a couple defensive guys, too.
Our guys have to learn the system quicker, and IMO we need to draft the best DT available next year…2012’s version of Dareus or Suh. Hopefully Beason or TD can give us 10-12 games next year, but I expect us to draft a LB or 2 as well.
one more thing
Yeah, I know I’m just making excuses, and excuses are a disease, but that’s all I got at this point.
by usana_gaines on Oct 16, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
We've discussed the king's ransom that teams...
are going to be willing to give up to move in position to draft Luck #1 overall. But, there are other possible franchise QBs and stud players that some teams may be willing to move up for as we;;. In other words, there will be opportunities to move back to gain extra picks. There I go again with the draft. It’s just so easy to think draft with the record we have.
HAVE FAITH !!!
I remember some 30 odd years ago I was an avid fan of an NFL team that brought in a rookie HC, and a rookie QB. That year they went 1 and 15. Nothing but doom and gloom from the fans.
The following year they made the playoffs and proceeded to win 3 SBs in the next 8 years – ring a bell???
The Dallas Cowboys with Jimmie Johnson and Troy Aikman.
It’ll happen with RR and Cam !!!
Jim
That's if Hurney doesn't blow early rounda
Picks, then yeah they can compete for the playoffs.
by adam carter on Oct 16, 2011 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You watched football
back when all they had was a leather pad for a helmet didnt you?
Failure in a bold prediction bet/promise results in this sig.
It was a frustrating day, but I'm gonna be optimistic
I’ve been a Panther’s fan since the franchise started and, like many of you, have seen plenty of ups and downs from the team over the years. We’ve had a team go from 1-15 to the Super Bowl in 2 years time. That was a great example of how fast things can turn around in the NFL. I believe we’re on the right path here, all we need is some time and patience. In addition to that, we have the most important piece of the puzzle already in place, which is Cam Newton. This is a QB dominant league and we’ve never had a guy like him. In the long run, I believe he and the team that is built around him will make the struggles of last season and this season worth it in the long run.
"If you haven't got anything good to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
-Alice Roosevelt Longworth
wow, cam has one bad day and i see people i know saying we made a mistake drafting Cam, yes back in pre season I said some stupid things about us drafting Cam but those where knee jerk reactions speaking out of anger and did not mean them.
So many people today saying Luck will be a better a NFL QB. The only way Luck will be a elite QB is if he gets lucky (no pun) and sits behind Manning for 2-3 years. Ive said it once and ill say it agian, Cam will be the Jordan of the NFL. Luck’s ceiling will be Eli Manning, a solid QB that might even win a SB, but not a truely elite once in a generation type QB like Cam will be.
If we really did draft Luck in the draft, I dont know what i would do. I would lose all hope in the Panthers future to be honest. WOW, what a horrible decision that would be. The only way I see us drafting luck is god forbid a freak accident happens to cam and has a career ending injury or something
Just wow....
Have you ever watched him play? Did you look at any of his stats or any of the analysis of him as a player when coming up with this gem? I’m in no way saying I’d rather have Luck than Cam but dude really? While there is no way to truly predict a players ability to play in the NFL, you are the only person on the planet that doesn’t think he’s going to be special. He’s accurate, has the arm and a quick release. Add on to that an outstanding football mind and understanding of the game you get a very good player. It would shock me if Eli Manning is his ceiling.
"Beer, both the cause of and solution to all of life's little problems." - Homer Simpson
by Kris Mynatt on Oct 16, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
your right on alot, but if Luck's ceiling is Eli's then he has a high one
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge,
but rather in a lack of will.
- Vince Lombardi
by Tommy_The_Pantherian on Oct 17, 2011 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If you just make knee-jerk reactions all the time, how are we supposed to know when you mean something or not? Or for that matter take you seriously?
by JStewart28 on Oct 17, 2011 12:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BW and Mike Train
I just saw on ESPN that Steve Spurrier’s house was egged. The police are questioning Steven Garcia for the vandalism. They keyed in on him as a suspect because out of 12 eggs thrown, only 1 actually hit the house.
by FF Companion on Oct 16, 2011 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
lol i heard that joke the other day...i thought it was hilarious
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Looking forward to the Monday Morning Optimist right now..
Lord knows I could use it..
"A warning; to the people, the good and the evil. This is war."
by Thaddeus_Griffin on Oct 16, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
Here's one thing to be optimistic about (there are several, despite how frustrating things can be)...
The staff’s giving a long, hard look at defensive schemes, personnel, and how they might manipulate those in hopes to make the defense more effective. Adjustments!
(Somewhere, Foxy is saying, “Adjustments?!? For personnel?”)
After the game, one in which Atlanta’s offense converted 7- of-11 third downs, defensive-minded head coach Ron Rivera suggested that he’ll look at possibly rearranging some things on the drawing board.
“I think we’ve got to look at the defense that we’re playing, the players that are doing it and how we can better maximize our personnel,” Rivera said. “I’ll get a chance to evaluate that, to sit down with (defensive coordinator) Sean (McDermott) and the rest of the defensive coaches. We’ll make decisions in terms of who plays and what we’re playing.”
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
A Coaching staff that sees the current plan isnt working at week 6 and decides to adjust to the personal we have and how they are playing? Ludicrous!
Proud member of the Panthers Mafia!
Saving The Environment One Green Comment at a Time
'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
by MMA_PITBULL on Oct 17, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The current plan hasn't worked ever since Matt F gashed them
200 yards. I’m not expecting playoffs but fresh where’s the disclipine/ accountability on the defense.
by adam carter on Oct 17, 2011 12:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really like Rivera
I’m glad we have him.
by doug2626 on Oct 17, 2011 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's great..
I’m glad he’s showing patience but also realizing when things don’t work. You can’t hit guys up with different stuff every week and expect them to execute it flawlessly. Experience is required for consistency. However, with that said, I don’t think what we’re doing is working and it’s time that they do try something different.
http://www.facebook.com/dranged1 - Add me on Facebook. Can never have too many CSR/Panther friends.
We all knew the record was gonna suck this year
We’ didn’t think we’d be as competitive though.
This wasn’t going to be the playoff year, its a rebuilding year. And I’d rather get a nice draft pick.
I’ll be happy with 5 wins, I can live with 4. 3 and we’re under performing.
I am the WAMMA Light-Heavyweight Champion
Now with more defenses than Fedor
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Cat Scratch Reader
Related FanShots on Cat Scratch Reader
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- NFLPA files collusion claim against NFL, claiming salary cap arrangement in uncapped year
- Donald Driver compared winning ‘Dancing With The Stars’ to winning Super Bowl
- Report: Most NFL players would have no problem with an openly gay teammate
- Donald Driver wins ‘Dancing With the Stars’
- Student has diploma withheld after Tebowing at graduation
