Panthers Newton & Smith Unexpected Fantasy Darlings
by Jaxon on Oct 11, 2011 12:25 AM EDT
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I'm really enjoying going back and reading what some people wrote about the Panthers offense prior to the start of the season. To be honest I have to say I was very bearish on the Panthers myself before the games started to count but I love how the conventional wisdom has been turned upside down so far this season.
Look no further than leading ROY candidate Cam Newton. Who expected him to be #2 overall in fantasy points scored after five weeks? Not this writer for Fake Teams, SBN's fantasy blog:
Cam Newton
Newton is getting drafted way too often this season, with owners going completely off of name recognition. He was remarkable in his one full season of division I football at Auburn, so much so that he won the Heisman trophy and was selected first overall in this years draft. Realistically, there isn't much reason for him to be drafted in any one year leagues, even though he's been named the starter for the Panthers.
Historically number one picks, whether they went on to be successful or not, have not had great rookie seasons. Add on top of that, he's going to the NFL's worst team from a year ago and he isn't surrounded by excellent talent. Expect the Panthers to run the ball and use a lot of short routes, dump-offs, and heavy utilization of the tight end spot. Cam may show some flashes of greatness, but on a week to week basis, he's going to have some really underwhelming games as he adjusts to the NFL. Just say no unless you're in a dynasty league.
Ha! 'isn't much reason to draft him'? 'Just say no'?...How about "Yes We Cam!" I'm certainly kicking myself for not drafting him at any point in any of my drafts. I agree that typically rookie QB's do not fare well...but Newton is hardly your typical rookie QB. So much for the expected short routes too huh?
Likewise WR Steve Smith was said to have lost a step and is on the downward spiral of his career.Yeah right. That and other preseason analysis gets debunked...after the jump...
I feel sorry for you if you followed this preseason fantasy analysis on WR Steve Smith:
He may no longer even be the best Steve Smith in the NFL. Being a part of the worst passing offense in the league last year didn't help, and now he goes from Clausen to Cam, but will that help him improve? The 32 year old caught 2 TDs last year and they came in the first 2 games of the season. Smith is still getting drafted in fantasy based on what he once did, and past elite WRs did have success into their mid-30s, but how do we know how Smith will react to his worst season in years? He's getting drafted ahead of some interesting young options like Jacoby Ford and Danny Amendola, and I'd rather take a chance on one of them.
Oh Lord where do I start? I think it's safe to say he IS the best Steve Smith in the NFL, though both are 1-4. It's also a no brainer switching from Clausen to Newton helped tremendously. Picking Ford or Amendola ahead of Smith? Downright laughable now. Smith of course is the #2 WR in fantasy averaging 16 pts per game and is showing he is still one of the top WRs in the league.
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I benched DREW BREES in favor of Cam...and it paid off!
Also, sticking with Williams has finally earned me dividends in the past two weeks. Still, I’d trade every last one of those FF points for a couple of wins.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
by Newsinz on Oct 11, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Still, I’d trade every last one of those FF points for a couple of wins.
I would for me as well… well that and the fact I am 0-5 and haven’t won a thing… kinda meaningless to me now.
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You, Me and Cam buddy.
You, Me and Cam.
Tattoo your name on my arm
I always said my girl's a good luck charm. -The Ramones
Haha, yeah man, I’m getting toasted in our CSR 7 league!
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what's your team name?
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by CaptainPanther on Oct 11, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
whats you team name?
This has been a public service announcement.......
by CaptainPanther on Oct 11, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
No wonder your team sucks...you named it after a soccer team.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
I has a sad... you force my hand
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Sarcastic BW is immune to sad puppy pictures. Sarcastic BW laughs at the sad puppy and makes it even sadder.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
dammit...
and makes it sadder.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
I may not always be right, but even a blind nut finds a squirrel every once in a while.
Sarcastic BW fails to be sarcastic
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Sarcastic Ivan fails to be funny
Ok, that was mean. I sorry.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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oooh havin a rough go at it!
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by CaptainPanther on Oct 11, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
No doubt!
I refused to bench Williams and am now on a 3 game win streak now. I also have Olsen. Partly because he’s a Panther and partly because he’s a damn good TE! But I too would trade them both for a couple of REAL wins.
"Keep Pounding!" - The late, great Sam Mills
Wow
I can’t say I did that, but I did draft Cam in the low middle rounds as a potential QB2. Everybody thought I was crazy. I’ve been on the Cam-wagon since I saw his first snap a year ago in September. I felt obligated since he’s on my College Football Mt. Rushmore. I didn’t start him until the 3rd week.
My first QB is Aaron Rodgers who got me 70 points in our heavy bonus league. In case you’re wondering, I’m in first place @ 5-0.
he's a life saver for me
I took Peyton Manning with my first pick (the draft was before the surgery) so obviously that was a wasted pick. I picked up Cam after the 1st week and he has done great. i usually get 40 points a week from him.
I like that pic of Cam. Dude is defiantly intense..when this teams personality mirrors their QB…LOOK OUT
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'We're the little brothers getting punched in the head. Pretty soon, we're gong to learn to punch back.'" - Ron Rivera aka BAMF
I laugh...
every time I see him doing the “airplane” running around the field before every game. I love the spirit and lightheartedness he brings to this team.
"Keep Pounding!" - The late, great Sam Mills
Historically number one picks, whether they went on to be successful or not, have not had great rookie seasons. Add on top of that, he’s going to the NFL’s worst team from a year ago and he isn’t surrounded by excellent talent.
Historically number one picks, are picked by the NFL’s worst team from a year ago too
Yeah...I found that one part extremely redundant, too.
Almost like a Maddenism.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
i'm surprised smitty is #2
I would’ve thought Welker and Megatron would be ahead of him… but he’s still a beast
They are
Smitty is #3. I don’t think Yahoo had updated the stats when Jaxon looked at them
On Cam, to be fair, nobody and I mean nobody thought he would be this prolific to start his career. So unless that critique on him was written since the beginning of the season, I can’t argue with that reasoning on drafting Cam.
Also on Cam: is it just me or is that a rather scary photo of him? He almost looks like some kind of wild animal with his mouth open like that…
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Agreed
Cam was actually drafted in the third round in my league, and we all kind of laughed and went “okay, if you say so…”
Meanwhile I picked up Josh Freeman, so I’m certainly not laughing now.
Yeah, I just have the worst WR’s ever right now…
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who is it?
because I think I have 4 of the worst atm
I have
Steve Smith, Greg Jennings, Megatron, and wes welker, who do you sit right there? lol
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
Jennings probably--since Rodgers has so many targets.
Good problem to have.
"Between you, me and the wall here, I had a bit of a doozy myself last night. Get this: A corn-fed harvest mouse, a hooker, a nun, a Flemish peasant woman, whips, chains, whistles yo-yo's, a circus midget. My grandmother riding by on a bicycle giving me the finger, and a duck! Now, I don't know 'bout you...Are you crying?"
Holy crap… how did you manage all of those guys???
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Live draft
And I swapped arian foster for nicks and welker, got smitty fa after draft and megatron in second round
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Oct 11, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You trade one.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 11, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
I got Cam at qb, olsen at te, dwill, felix jones, cedric benson, and tim hightower, matt hasselback, green bay def, jason hansen. I don’t really need to trade, and it keeps othera from them.
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Oct 11, 2011 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd argue you could use a RB upgrade
because D-Will’s in a time split, Felix Jones is injury prone, Cedric Benson is going to be suspended at some point and Lucifer Shanahan stripped all of Hightower’s value, at least to me, after he went put Torain in and went back to his menacing ways.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Oct 11, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you to a extent
But the only running back that consistently put up 15 plus points is like ap, af, rice, forte. The rest are good for 8 to 10 a game which is enough with rest of team, I think, but I see your point. Besides no one will trade with me :(
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
by gdhood on Oct 11, 2011 11:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate being in leagues where people don't trade
Takes half the fun out IMO.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
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by KaiserBromley on Oct 13, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
some serious poise from a rookie...or extreme confidence in Stews blocking
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Not only does Stew own defenders with the stiff arm...
But he picks them up and carries them to the bench when in pass protection.
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by D-Ranged1 on Oct 11, 2011 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
J-Stew can be beastly...
I mean, that’s Jonathan Vilma that he’s blocking/carrying away.
And to MMA’s point above, Cam shows remarkable poise.
Yep. I'm a female who religiously follows a football blog.
"When you get into coaching, you strive to be a Super Bowl-winning head coach. That’s what my goal is, to come here and become a Super Bowl-winning head coach and to sustain an atmosphere of winning." - Ron Rivera
Wish I could caption this:
After months of practice and hard work, Jonathan Stewart finally perfects the fireman’s carry!
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+1
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Oct 11, 2011 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or:
Cam Newton throws footballs. Jonathan Stewart throws LB’s.
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by Ivan459 on Oct 11, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was unfortunate enough to put my fandom aside..
I made myself avoid Newton in every league I’m in. Despite having some pretty bad teams overall, I did manage to get pretty lucky with one.. Aaron Rodgers, Steve Smith, and Calvin Johnson have been doing me pretty well. In week 4, I scored 99 points from the three of them alone.
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I have been looking for cheap Cam jerseys online, anyone know a reliable site that has quality stuff?
CAM Jersey
Got my CAM jersey before the season started at ….. wwww.fashionlinechina.com.
they sell Authentic Jerseys for an amazing $35. plus $5 shipping or free over $60. I got it and it is amazing. An exact replica of the $250 personal one I had made from the Panthers website. Shipped pretty fast… Got friends who also use it all the time
How long did it take to come in
I would love to have one before Nov. 13 when I go to the game. They’re gonna be wearing their black jerseys and I would like to be wearing a black Cam jersey.
IT AIN'T SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG
by BlackCatFan on Oct 12, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I picked Cam with my last pick in the Draft..
I thought why the hell not…and I got razzed a little for it..I’m so glad I did!! And Just like Newsinz..holding on to Williams is paying off
Rocking the boat and righting the ship! Making the moves needed...Go Panthers!!!
I traded Darren McFadden for Cam
I was angry with myself that week for trading my best player for Cam, but it’s worked out pretty well for me. Had Sproles to replace McFadden and Cam replaced Josh Freeman, the gain more than offsets the loss.
Unrelated, but I also picked up Victor Cruz for my Bye Receiver and boy am I happy how that turned out.
You traded Run DMC for Cam? That takes guts my friend. :-)
But in the end I think it will work out for you.
The truth will set you free, but not until it is finished with you. ~David Foster Wallace
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I can't blame these guys
Most of these guys who write this stuff have deadlines to meet and so on, so they simply read other people’s articles, and write the same thing in their own words. People apply the same default analysis to all rookie QBs and all recivers over 30 who had an off year. They don’t real analysis. I bet these same experts said you should pick Adrian Peterson or Arian Foster, and said Vick might not play all 16 games. There are a lot more writers than experts and analysts out there. They all suck. ey’re no better than TV stock market experts who are broke.
i got Cam in every league but CSR7
b/c i forgot about the draft! this is the first year being a gomer for panther players hasn’t bit me in the arss! YET i’m still in the top of CSR7 off the waver wire! lol first good year of FF for me lol… might have spoken too soon also!
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by CaptainPanther on Oct 11, 2011 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
Psh top you cant beat my brady cam smitty megatron maclin hillis benson and aaron hernandez combo
by jai6y6 on Oct 11, 2011 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fantasy Lineup
My team from the draft is
Rodgers, S. Smith, G. Jennings, V. Jackson, Fred Jackson, L. Blount, D. Will, Beanie, G Olsen, Hanson, and Baltimore DEF. I am running away with my league right now.
This is off subject, but I just looked at Tampa Bay’s schedule. WOW, I thought our schedule was bad. We have a very good chance at overtaking them at No 2 in the division. Check this out as far as Tampa Bay’s next few games (in order). Saints, Bears, Saints again, Texans, Green Bay, Titans then us. WOW, Our schedule is bad but their schdule is just a s*it sandwich. Our next games.. Falcons, Redskins, Vikings and Titans. we could win all four of those games while Tampa Bay could very well lose all their next few games.
I say this is our chance right here. If we cant capitalize these next few weeks, then might as well start talking about the draft and FA
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Y U NO LISTEN, PTRAIN!?!?!?!
I don't always fail, but when I do...
I do it awesomely.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Oct 11, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
so he's back to PTrain?
I mostly lurk but I missed this transition.
I think it depends on his mood.
JK. Love you PT.
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Yea I decided I like Panthertrain better. So I switched back
by PantherTrain on Oct 11, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It depends on which personality is in control at any given time!lol
As the great philosopher Yoda said "Try not! Do you must!"
for some reason mobileCSR isnt working on my iphone. So if you guys miss me too bad, i encourage you to please, just go back and read my previous posts on previous threads. That way, it will help ease the pain somewhat until i get home from work tonight. :)
by PantherTrain on Oct 11, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
That was actually pretty good PT
by Swamp Panther on Oct 11, 2011 8:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Beast Mode
#Panthers QB Cam Newton’s 1,610 pass yds most ever by rookie thru 1st 5 games. Bradford 1,159 in ’10& Weinke 1,130 in ’01
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If I'm not mistaken
Cam has surpassed his expectations in passing yards and rushing TDs. It’s amazing how much his talent was down played by not only football “experts” but by fantasy experts as well. Watch Cam get close to 25 TD passes and 15 rushing TDs.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Oct 11, 2011 12:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What we are witnessing will become legendary years from now, me thinks.
I read somewhere earlier where Cam was the first NFL player to have at least 5 passing touchdowns and 5 rushing touchdowns in his first 5 games. By the time this season is over, he will have his own chapter in the NFL record book.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
I had Smitty on my watch list during my draft
My intention was to draft him somewhere before the 10th round but I was also helping my 14 yr old step son draft his team and when he asked me who was left, he immediately pounced on Smitty. As expected, that move worked out very well for him and Smitty has been starting every game for my step son’s fantasy team this year. Interestingly enough, Olsen hasn’t been the beast most of us projected him to be but he has been consistent. Shockey has been just as good and either one would be great back up TEs on any roster.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Oct 11, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Olsen is 7th in scoring, that makes him a must start TE1 is most every league
by FF Companion on Oct 11, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
He was my number two behind Daniels
I traded Olsen and picked up Shockey off waivers…so it all works out.
You get what you put in and people get what they deserve.
by Disciple of Carolina on Oct 11, 2011 1:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was just watching ESPN and they listed top 5 best QB/WR combos. I cant remeber the names of the WRs so ill jist put question marks.
Brady/?
Rodgers/? (Jenkins i think)
Stafford/Johnson
Newton/Smith (yea bitches!)
Rivers/?
Thats in order also. I love how our QB is top 5 QB in the league along with Brees, Rodgers, Brady and Rivers. And I love how the combo of Newton/Smithis up there with teams like the Packers, Chargers and Patriots. Feels so great
by PantherTrain on Oct 11, 2011 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I had Smitty,Cam,DW and Stew from the start on all my 8 teams
Faith and Loyalty. Now they all did very well.
I drafted Dwill and Smith
Smith is my #1 reciever and Dwill sits on my bench :[
I wanted Cam so bad but I had Brady and Stafford & when I traded Stafford someone else took Cam :\
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