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Panthers Final Roster Cut Down Open Thread

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At some point today the Panthers will begin trimming their roster down to the mandatory 53 players. It may come out in one announcement or we may hear a few at a time. This thread is for logging the cuts and providing a forum for discussing the cuts. Feel free to discuss cuts from other teams as well. We are all transfixed as to whether the Panthers would pursue a veteran WR like Patrick Crayton if he should become available (My bad, I missed Crayton's trade to SD). There probably more than one surprise cut before this day is over.

If you would like to predict who the final 53 will be James has a post just for that here.

So that's all the intro I got...this is now an Open Thread!

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Update 10:30am: Cuts so far: LB Morty Ivy & OT Rob Pettiti

Update 3:06 pm: We also know that Hunter Cantwell has been waived, reports are that CJ Davis has been cut. Robert McClain and Tony Pike appear to have made the 53 man roster.

Update 3:39 pm: Steve Reed confirms that Kenny Moore has been cut, per his agent.

Update 3:50 pm: Same source who broke Kenny Moore news reports that DBs CJ Wilson and Brian Witherspoon have been cut.

Update 4:22 pm: It appears KoS Todd Carter has made the 53, but more intriguing is that the Vikings have placed Rhys Lloyd on waivers.

Update 4:25 pm: Nic Harris has made the team, DTs Tank Tyler and Corvey Irvin have been cut.

Update 4:43 pm: Bubble player Marcus Hudson has made the team

Update 4:47 pm: FB Rashawn Jackson has been cut

Update 4:57 pm: S Aaron Francisco has been cut and given an injury settlement.

Update 6:22 pm: LBs Sean Ware and Quentin Culbertson were cut.

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As much as I'd like to see neither Pike or Cantwell on the roster

I can’t see Furney not keeping a 3rd QB. Maybe we’ll see a vet become available on the waiver wire but I don’t see them having just Moore & Clausen.

by jojoisthemann on Sep 4, 2010 8:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I would like to see them both put on practice squad and if they get snatched up so be it, but my gut feeling says they’ll keep one of them on the roster.

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

They might name Edwards as 3rd QB, then have a spot for an extra WR.

They can call Edwards anything they like – he’s a multi-tasker.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's my hope

but it just seems to make too much sense for it to happen.

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Won't be 3rd qb

They might carry Moore & Pickles as the only 2 qbs on the roster, but they won’t list AE as qb3. Doesn’t mean they won’t use him as qb3…but he’ll stay wr on roster

by CamelCity on Sep 4, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Semantics.

You’re right, of course. I was speaking of practical usage. Whether he’s on one line or the other, he still could play on both, eliminating the need for another QB, and freeing a spot for an actual productive member of society.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're obsessed with Edwards at QB.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah. I just don't see the other 2 as being worth a roster spot.

There are going to be some tough cuts announced today, and a player or two who showed great drive and hustle, and deserved a jersey would have to be cut, in order for Cantwell or Pike to make it. Until Thursday night, I wouldn’t have considered cutting both, but they showed me nothing, and Edwards at least could step in there if it were an emergency, as well as they could.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1 Big Daddy...

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look. Here's the deal, Rick --

You rec everything that comes out of my mouth, and I do the same for you. Rec’d yours to start the ball rolling. I hate +1’s.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deal!

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Mortty Ivy-LB- Panthers Sep. 4 – 8:41 am et
   
  
Panthers cut LB Mortty Ivy.

Ivy spent a majority of last year on the team’s practice squad after going undrafted out of West Virginia.
Source: Ravens Insider on Twitter

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Aww, no way!

Ivy played great in the preseason games I watched. That’s disappointing. He had skill. I haven’t been that disappointed in a linebacker release since Tim Shaw.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 4, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Ivy's agent wouldn't tweet that his client was released if in fact he wasnt

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah bigD

I think it’s pretty safe if Gantt is retweeting that he has enough faith in the source to communicate it

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

daringantt
.RT @RalphCindrich #Panthers release client OT Rob Pettitti.
less than 20 seconds ago via web

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

daringantt
.The fact Panthers released Petitti tells me they’re convinced RT Otah’s going to be back sooner than later. Still don’t expect for NYG.
less than 20 seconds ago via web

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

 daringantt
  
The fact Panthers released Petitti tells me they’re convinced RT Otah’s going to be back sooner than later. Still don’t expect for NYG.

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Okay, just woke up from partying until two in the morning for my birthday. What I miss?

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 4, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing much.

And happy birthday, dude. I’m here waiting for somebody to tell me we signed Houshmandzadeh.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houshmandzadeh

I think there is a 3% chance we sign a free agent like that but if he did, look out. I’m not sure how productive he would be but if he still has it then there is no way we’re not a playoff team. The Panthers have to at least entertain getting a number 2 WR who can take pressure off of Steve Smith.

by Deuceklinco on Sep 4, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 on that Deuce

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

T.J.

I bet the Vikings go after him, they need someone for Farve to throw to and they aren’t afraid of spending money.

by SDcarolinafan on Sep 4, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

VJax

I still believe that the Vikings will be the ones that trades for VJax..

by Lazy Dog on Sep 4, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please..

I have multiple fantasy leagues that are counting on Jackson to, at the least, fill in on bye weeks. One’s a 20 man league, if he doesn’t play, there’s practically no depth left to replace him.

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by D-Ranged1 on Sep 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, if he doesnt sign his tender today, he'll be on roster exempt status

And will have to serve an additional 3 games.

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by yes, i mean yes, it starts week one regardless.

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A team that could make a play for him could be the 49er’s. They could use a threat like him opposite Crabtree. I still hope that the Panthers at least inquire about him though….

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

tom sorenson tweeted a bit ago:

If Panthers trade for Houshmandzadeh, I promise to learn to spell his name without looking it up. He’d be a great complement to Steve Smith.

sounds like he’s on board

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Find me someone who wouldn’t be on board. Guy hasn’t really lost a step at all, and he is a much better option than anyone else we have on the roster now.

Please Hurney, at least look into this…

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wish we would….

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

daringantt
They like to drag it out. Probably won’t get full list until 6-ish. RT @tvisgreat What time of day do we usually get the cut announcements?

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Panthers have until 4PM

The two announced so far are not ‘announcements’ by the team, but twitter accounts, right?

I doubt the team will dribble them out one at a time. We’ve got a watched pot to look at for a few more hours. I’d think early afternoon.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Pettiti's agent tweeted to Gantt that he was cut, dont know about the other one, it was on rotoworld.com

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

They have until 6 p.m.

by dogear on Sep 4, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN just did the Over/Under on the NFC South

Carolina at 7
Jaworski “I’m a big John Fox guy, they win way more than 7”
Gruden “Less than 7, they don’t have the tools in the toolshed to win 7 games”

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

damn! I wanted to see that one...

seems like I’ve seen the ones for every other division, then I miss the one I wanted to see. But thanks for the recap.

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you sure it wasnt Gruden that said the good stuff?

He’s had the Panthers as a sleeper team and has praised John Fox all offseason.

by jojoisthemann on Sep 4, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m pretty sure those comments should be flipped. Gruden lists Panthers as his sleeper.

by dogear on Sep 4, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh, nope

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or perhaps he watched the 4 game preseason debacle and changed his mind

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But that ESPN article was posted yesterday.

by dogear on Sep 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either that or Gruden's not much of a coach.

Which could be argued, seeing as his only success came from a team he inherited.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was only good because he inherited a good team…. meanwhile, the team he just left was the team he beat in the super bowl… poor reasoning there guy

by Mr. E on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

But they always have to have a positive and negative side to what the say. Gruden is actually a Panthers fan when you listen to him talk. If he had his way he probably would have agreed with Jaws.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an interesting cut

Dezmon Briscoe-WR- Bengals Sep. 4 – 10:38 am et
  
Bengals waived WR Dezmon Briscoe.

A sixth-round pick this April, Briscoe has good size, great hands, and is coming off a big preseason finale. He’ll generate some interest on waivers.
 
Ranked 19th best WR in the 2010 draft by CBS Sportsline. Armanti Edwards was 20th, David Gettis was 30th. He had a 50 yard TD Thursday night.

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Kinda doubt we would go after him though. We already have a decent compliment of young guys on the roster…

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Panthers keep Pike, waive QB Hunter Cantwell

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/09/04/1667730/panthers-keep-pike-waive-qb-hunter.html

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

should've waived them both...

but i figured it wouldn’t happen. They must not want to take a chance losing him on the waiver, though I’m not sure why.

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by John Chilton on Sep 4, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see Pike play in the last game, but from what I did see he was pretty accurate ...

… and made good decisions, at least for a rookie. All he may need is to beef up that arm, and possibly retool his throwing mechanics a little. Cantwell overhauled his whole motion. Pike may have potential, but it will take a lot of hard work, more so than even most pro players will endure.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 4, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Half of that is no shock. Cantwell played like crap, but I would have thought they could try to put Pike on the PS, and if he got signed then oh well, not like we need a franchise QB in a couple of years. Armanti would have been fine as an emergency #3.

Now we have a wasted roster spot on a QB that will never see the playing field, EVER.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well crap

Wasn’t happy when we drafted him, less happy we’re keeping him. Would rather keep Guy and have someone who could return punts, maybe even catch some passes.

If God came down on Christmas Day
I know exactly what He'd say
He'd say "Oi!" to the punks
and "Oi!" to the skins
but "Oi!" to the world and everybody wins.

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by Oi2dwrld on Sep 4, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still holding out hope we can keep Eric Moore

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cantwell was awful

May as well have had a tackle dummy for QB he got sacked so many times, must have enjoyed it.

by jojoisthemann on Sep 4, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He looks the part of a QB physically, but he doesn't have it working upstairs.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sensible.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

TJ would be an AWESOME compliment to Smith

I do hope we can get a reliable, proven WR. I like the young guys, but they need a mentor.

by elecp on Sep 4, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

No Pops. This is a smart move. By having Pike carrying the clipboard

we don’t have to worry all season about Pickles getting a papercut. Brilliant!!

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, so that's it.

Transfer the injury hazard to the 3rd stringer, and off the 2nd. Smart.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to hazard a guess...

…but I wonder if retaining Pike accomplishes two things for the Panthers.

1) They can still retain Cantwell by exposing him to the waiver wire and resigning him to the practice squad…which MIGHT be a more likely thing than trying to do the same with Pike…and…

2) Maybe they’re uncertain if they’ll be able to keep Matt Moore at season’s end when he becomes a free agent. If so, Pike becomes our #2 QB with Clausen taking over. And maybe they still have Cantwell as the #3 QB off the practice squad.

I don’t know. We’ll have to see how things play out. But there’s no doubt they’ll be losing another player they could have kept by making room for Pike on the 53.

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—Neil

by NSpicer on Sep 4, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

When theyre cutting players do they do it by position?

Like once they cut a qb, or receiver, they cant come back to the qbs or receivers again to cut another 1 later?

by MrBernz on Sep 4, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

There’s no rule that says they have to do that, but they may be doing it in a certain order, possibly that way.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just wondering because the post said they keep Pike, i didnt know if they announce they keep him or if it is just assumed they keep him.

by MrBernz on Sep 4, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 85% rule may have come in effect with Pike

In a uncapped year a team has to pay 85% of a rooky contract if he’s cut. I hope this means Gettis in, Jarrett out. I’m sick of that guy. Every year it’s the same thing with him. Reminds me of Colbert.
JR saves everyhow much Jarrett is due this year and you essentially get Gettis for free. If they do it for Pike, a position of need, then it seems to the same argument holds for Gettis also at a position of need.Gettis has shown flashes in the last two games.I think Martin gets a spot for Wright.

by Robert Woodring on Sep 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

WTFF!?

So now we have to let go of one or more of, Gettis, Senn, Harris, Irvin, Witherspoon, McClain, Jansen, or Carter. I would have never cut one of these guys for that fuckin pathetic excuse for a QB. Hell id rather have an extra LS than Pike…

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I really don't understand the anger.

This is the nature of the business. You can’t keep all the guys you’d like to keep. We need a QB to groom behind Clausen – at the moment Pike is that guy.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can throw harder than Pike.

He is going to get someone killed. We do not need this guy ever. We can draft someone else next year to groom or pick up a udfa or sign someone that was cut. This is just retarded. Anyone is better than him. We should have kept Cantwell over Pike. BS spread noodle armed QB. Damn I hope he gets busted with a dead hooker and a kilo of cocaine. GET HIM OUTTA HERE!

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hyperbole much?

I’m sure they offer anger-management classes in your area. Just kidding. I don’t really care for the move either.

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by D-Ranged1 on Sep 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because...

A) What if Moore goes down with an injury? Who do you have behind Clausen? And what if he gets injured, or his toe doesn’t permit him to play?? Then you have to have somebody..

AND

B) in the future, long term….being that Moore has only this year left on his contract, who would we have as a true QB next year behind Clausen?? If you cut Pike now and keep 2 QBs, then you might only have 1 next year…

by jkp1516 on Sep 4, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

thereare a ton of schucks you could call

If Pike gets on the field. some reciever will miss the rest of the season. he will get them hurt bad. the guys SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems to me like everyone was expecting them to keep Pike from day 1, dont know why you are surprized. They drafted him knowing he would miss the first 2 weeks & that he would fall behind the others.

by MrBernz on Sep 4, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the knowledge that, that he would be #3 on the depth chart. Implicitly, that means if the team has to turn to him, our season is likely over anyway.

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 4, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont know why a college would graduate later than the others & put their sports players behind like that, why not graduate 2 weeks earlier so their stars can have a fighting chance?

by MrBernz on Sep 4, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbornness?

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

relax. it's not like he'll see the field this year

and if he does, I’m pretty sure the season is over.

by elecp on Sep 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

regardless of what we've seen of pike this summer

the guy is smart, accurate, and a proven winner. He has the intangibles, they just need to work on his technique and mechanics. Hunter worked on his technique and mechanics and still stunk it up

by elecp on Sep 4, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

with another year under the conditioning program and time to beef up that arm. He’ll be a serviceable back-up.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Serviceable back-ups can be traded.

by Scrantsj on Sep 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh...right now would be good.

Seattle wants backup QB, and they want to trade Housh.

Hmmm.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have a lame duck backup??

As the saying goes, you are only as good as the 53 players you have. In other words, you are only as good as you are deep, especially because this is a rough game….thus necessitating serviceable backups who could come in and contribute if necessary in a pinch…

by jkp1516 on Sep 4, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

dasvid Carr is more servicable..

what are you talking about?

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

what is your beef with Pike??? Yes he has the weakest arm right now, but he’ll be working on it this season and have a full offseason under it after. Why is it so hard to see that Pike has SOOOOOOO much more upside than Cantwell does? Either way i don’t think anyone will even bother taking a look at Cantwell and he’ll clear the waivers and will be back on the practice squad.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the Pike hatred seems a bit extreme to me too

I could understand letting him go, and even just rolling with AE at #3. But as it is I understand them wanting to see how their 6th pick in the draft develops. The guy barely got any opportunity this preseason. And when he did, while he didn’t light it up, he did give us a few things to think about. Not giving him even a year to develop seems a bit extreme.

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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you tunnel!

You have to give a guy like Pike who is a project at least one full offseason in the conditioning program to see what he really is capable of. I, for one, was really disappointed that they didn’t play him more.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is going to learn to throw harder?

it doesnt happen like that. you either got it or you dont. He doesnt. If the guy ever gets on the field he is going to get someone hurt. the only thing that he showed is that he can freak out and move his feet. doesnt really matter to me that he can run away. he cant throw the ball. we have a lot of guys that can run with the ball in their hand. we dont need this doofy tall noodle armed guy doing it. he cant throw the ball. he wont learn to throw the ball. he cant throw the ball hard. or anything. the only thing he could do was run away. this is stupid.

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you basing this " on?

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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you basing this "he can't thrown the ball" on?

He has a better QB rating and completion percentage that Matt Moore and only slightly worse than Clausen. Other QBs have made a nice career without the strongest arm. Pike on the other hand is only a 6th round 3rd string QB whose only played in 2 preseason games. Buying him a year to develop is not that big of a deal.

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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you not see him play?

the balll come out soooo sloooooooow. he got 3 guys rocked. and one a concussion. got forbid he makes his way onto the field in some crazy circumstances, and gets smitty put on IR. then what? darn? seriously I hope he gets in trouble or something and we let him go.

i cant believe you of all people are believing in him. maybe you are just playing your devils advocate roll.

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 5, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody's supporting him do the extreme that you are criticizing him

We understand that a #3, 6th round QB is NOT going to start a single game for John Fox in his rookie year, even if Moore and Clausen get injured.

Had Cantwell lit it up and they released him to keep Pike then I’d agree with you. But he didn’t. So therefore I don’t see anything wrong with holding onto your 6th round investment and seeing if he can improve.

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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got in after cutting the grass.... my thoughts

Ivy: Disappointing… but it means they like Senn

Pettiti: Expected

Keeping Pike: Good call as far as I’m concerned. There is a good chance a team would take Pike off waivers. My guess is they’ll wait for Cantwell to clear and put him on the PS

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

what is good about keeping Pike?

If another team picked him up then that would be awesome! Then I would never have to worry about him coming onto the field and ending Smittys career. Or anyone elses on our team. This is retarded

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pike is a project, and should be treated as such

He has the instincts of an NFL QB, but not the arm or the tools to take snaps under center.

The organization (and myself) saw enough out of him on Thursday to see there is potential there. He’s also a guy who bobbled every snap under center and the OTAs and now he ran the offense for a half. He wasn’t good, he wasn’t great… but to cut him now would have been poor judgement.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've nothing against the guy, per se...

But nothing for him, either. But when all these cuts are announced, there’ll be AT LEAST one guy that everybody on this blog would’ve loved to still have on the roster, I guarantee that.

And Tony Pike will be wearing that guy’s jersey. And every week, the non-playing, non-activated, project developing Pike will be preventing your guy from having a chance in the NFL. All to save a couple hundred thousand dollars.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all possibility he’s just taking the roster of a guy who would be inactive most weeks anyway.

Can’t the same argument be applied to Matt Moore 2007-09? A non-playing, non-activated, developing Moore sitting on the 3rd string taking someone else’s spot?

For me the argument is “What is Pike’s ceiling vs. (insert player’s name here) ceiling?” for me, Pike could develop into one of the better backups in the league due to his size and accuracy. He looks like a giraffe out there, but the Panthers knew they were getting a spread offense, project when they took him.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the difference in the situation. Then we had an aging, oft-injured starter,

and marginal talent at QB2. Now we have a young, healthy starter and an even younger higher-ceiling QB2. Pike may be decent in three or four years, but right now, who cares what Pikes Peak is? We don’t need him.

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brilliant

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a starting QB who is a free agent this year and a rookie as his backup.

Good teams keep young QBs in the pipeline contstantly

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction, they keep young QB's with the potential to eventually play

That ain’t Pike. My 13 year old daughter can get more velocity. And if he has more arm than he showed, he has no concept of how to utilize his arm. He almost cost us 3 receivers thursday night.

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, but it doesn't mean they are correct

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean you are either.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or you

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

But I feel somewhat validated that my feelings are in line with the organization. I’ve always advocated they should stash him on the PS, but if they didn’t believe he’d clear waivers it would have been dumb to cut him.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it’s not.

I leave that line of thinking to the Charlotte Observer comment section

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's cold.

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, look!

A bunny.

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by D-Ranged1 on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was cold.

My feelings are … well, crushed.

I will not be aligned with C.O. thinkers.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are about to be regaled with Darin Gantt opinion via JTA

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you sniff

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cantwell stuffed up the pipeline, now it's Pike's turn, huh?

This is all about the money, as is everything. They’re obligated to pay Pike. Period. And all our talk about it now is just free debate, and won’t get personal, until later in the day, when even James will see one of his guys get cut, and say to himself, damn! he could still be on the team, had they not kept that project, Pike.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is it all about the money?

Give me one good reason?

Is his guaranteed money as a 6th rounder going to be more than the money they had to pay Jake to get him out of here?

If there’s one thing we’ve seen this offseason its that the Panthers will pay whatever it takes to get someone out of their hair.

Furthermore, if Pike was picked up on waivers his new team would be obliged to take his contract.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then it's a bad choice, IMO.

Sure, your opinion is validated, and that’s important to you, I grant you,

But, as I say, let’s revisit this debate later in the day, or tomorrow, when we all know the REST OF THE STORY, i.e., who else has been cut.

Don’t post any objections about anybody else who’s been cut, because that one guy could’ve still been on the roster, instead of your validated, noodle-armed, run-for-your-life, here WR you’re about to get creamed, can’t take it under center Pike.

I’m tellin ya, it’s all about priorities and choices, and they just made one that’ll affect one of your other roster down the line, James.

This is nothing personal to you. I’ll feel the same way. It’s just that I’m already felling it, cause I know it’s comin’.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can argue his abilities all day long, and I respect your opinion that he's wasted

But It’s not about money because if he cleared waivers another team pays, we pick him back up for the PS we’ve already paid.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, you're better at the money than I am.

(still a damned waste…mutter, mutter, mutter…)

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

mutter mutter mutter lmao thats great

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I read James' post, I said to meself, hmm, man's got a point...

…but then I read yours, and I said to meself, no, he don’t. Rick’s the man with the point. Rec’d again.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

I think he does have potential to be a starter in this league. You look at how much Tebow had to change and he’s looked good to me. This guy seems like a smart hard worker. And with that height he could easily see the whole field to make awesome throws.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can be, but on the Panthers?

To my eye, everybody on this blog is solidly either on Moore’s bandwagon, or on Clausen’s. Maybe on both. I never heard anybody on Pike’s bandwagon, as opposed to the other two.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is

we never know what can happen in the NFL. Let’s say Moore or Clausen is our next franchise QB for the future. They get hurt in the preseason or early in the season. Pike comes in and lights it up and we have another Bledsoe-Brady thing going on. The guy has the ability and the work ethic, he just needs to beef up the arm.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing about his arm is...

If he was a little guy then it could be unlikely. But he has the size to make you think that he could bulk up nicely. Maybe he takes a year to focus on beefing up, and then things become very interesting.

But don’t expect him coming in any time soon and “lighting it up”

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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But nevertheless, the potential is there.

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by Panther4Life!!! on Sep 4, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cant believe you can even come to this conclusion

did you not see how slow those balls were. Its like a much much weaker chad Pennington throw. just gross

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a 6th round rookie in pretty much his first ever NFL action

You’re basing everything on that little bit of playing time. Norwood had less then 1 tackle in the last 3 games… do you want to cut him too based on that little bit of performance?

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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Norwood has talent,

and his play is not going to get one of our other guys hurt. If Norwood couldnt talcke or get off a block then i would say cut him.

A QB that cant throw… come on. there were guys cut today that we of use to this organization. we could have found another useless project QB if we ever needed to. Next pre season when he ends a good WRs season ( and hopefully not career) then you will see what I am talking about.

But we need that spot. and he has it. and he is a waste of a roster spot.

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 5, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are basing your ENTIRE argument on arm strength

It is incredibly flawed. Arm strength is fixable, fottball IQ is not. Hes clearly not stupid, and knows how to play QB, he just can’t get the ball through the air quick enough. No matter how hard Jake tries, he can’t be a Payton Manning, because he doesn’t have the brain to pull it off. Brawn is FAR less of an obstacle.

Either that or you base all your picks on whether they are able to play next week. That’s not the reason for keeping Pike. Pike showed enough football IQ to not clear waivers, so we are keeping him. Done deal.

by ppalm on Sep 5, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

you cant fix arm strength

or else chad pennington would be peyton manning. And what football IQ did he show? he ran away. often to the wrong side. the guy sucks and will always suck. and I hope he doesnt get anyone hurt. the dumbest thing we have done so far

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 5, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penningtons a 6ft 3 and 35 years old

No he’s not likely to get any stronger.

But Pike is at an age where many guys are still filling out. He is much thinner than Pennington and also taller. He has a frame with a lot of potential to add bulk to.

If he doesn’t get better than oh well you wasted a 6th round pick. But freaking out because they want to give him a year to work on some of this seems a bit extreme.

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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pennington has always had a weak arm

you dont think that it never crossed his mind to get stronger? Adding strength doesnt get you to throw the ball with more zip.

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 5, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it could make his arm stronger

And make him a better QB.

I really don’t think either one of us really know what physiologically might make Pike’s arm stronger. All I know is that giving him a year to make progress is understandable.

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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you could learn or work out and be able to throw deeper and with more zip...

Then Jimmy Clausen would have a cannon that would make Mike Vick’s arm look like a 8 yo lil girl. But you cant. you can work on technique, but it will only get you so far. The guy is never going to be able to throw a good ball. And we will one day lose a player because of it.

It is really going to suck when Im right on this one.

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 6, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's the rest of the deal?

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by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very strange.

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by OldhamA on Sep 4, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

The Vikings are already in a precarious position relying on the most aloof man in NFL history to keep his end of the bargain, and now they’ve traded away their safety valve when Tavaris Jackson hasn’t posted a QB rating over 75 this preseason.

Good luck

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be they really wanted Reynaud, but insisted Rosenfels be included...

Reynaud has mad skills as a returner.

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by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

They might take Leinart off the Cards

….the only QB that would not scare His Eminence. Probably figured that he could outplay Leinart and Jackson for another 10 years.

by pieterzen on Sep 4, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could have had him

I have a source in Arizona who told me that the Cardinals are looking for a serviceable backup and a late round pick for Leinart, but thus far no takers.

I would imagine Minnesota could have sent Rosenfels and a 6th to them for him.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

If I’m an Arizona fan, I would be happier with Rosenfels than Anderson. Not sure why Cards did not chase that.

by pieterzen on Sep 4, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think

they are high on webb who is somewhat an armanti type player hes had a great preseason

by shaun_bass on Sep 4, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked at his stat line

Not really sure I consider that a ‘great preseason’ against the 3rd team.

Only two games he played any real time he had a 52%

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but i would figure they probably like him better they tjackson

by shaun_bass on Sep 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I just see it as a bizarre risk.

Give up a good KR and one of the better backup QBs in the league for little to nothing?

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense

Knowing that our Panthers team has mostly players on it from the draft, doesn’t it make sense that we keep Pike over Cantwell? Last year Cantwell impressed me during the preseason, but this year he was nowhere to be seen on the field I guess he knew his days were numbered after the draft. Pike has got some good things going for him, one of which he is young CAN scramble if need be and has good vision and makes smart throws. I think WR and DL is where we need to keep alot of guys, last year injuries are what killed us on DL

by NCByrdman on Sep 4, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Bucs just cut Michael Clayton

For those of you on the ‘we need a veteran WR’ kick he would be a cheap one. Good blocker too

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s got talent

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s Tyke Tolbert-tutored

by dogear on Sep 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

Dolphins just cut Pat White…

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

no way

i bet he’ll be picked up quick

by pantherpride on Sep 4, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

To do what?

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has skills

Dolphins never gave him a chance.

He only played limited time in one preseason game where he went 4/4 for 27 yards and ran once for 5 yards

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he torched my Tarheels his senior year right here in Charlotte.

I was front-and-center for that little bit of horror. Other than that, though, haven’t heard/seen much from him since he got into the Big Time.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miami mis-drafted him

They thought he could be their wildcat QB, but White didn’t have enough speed to fill that role like Armanti will for us.

He’s a mobile QB, and a halfway decent one at that.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wildcat QB?

Brown looks like he has no problem running that Wildcat for them. Maybe it’s why they were so willing to cut White.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I think they were looking for White to help fill that role, but realized he wasn’t fast enough for what they wanted.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE SHOULD SIGN WHITE AT WR!!

Just kidding. I am getting desperate though.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I’d rather play baseball than WR….”
-Pat White

by jkp1516 on Sep 4, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Honestly, I don’t think we’ll bring in anyone.

Tough enough cuts as it is to get to 53 without muddying the waters.

That being said, if Housh will sign for the vet min or another comparable talent I think they’ll jump on it, but it seems unlikely to me

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please...trade Pike and a draft choice for Housh.

Then we’d be good to go for this year.

Who cares if Housh couldn’t do it in 2 years. We’ve got WR’s to step in then.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm like a kid at Christmas...

I hope they pick up someone just because I like opening presents!

"I’m not superstitious, but I am a little stitious."

by Schrute Bucks on Sep 4, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol

I never thought I’d be on a blog anxiously awaiting drop/adds. you guys have warped me.

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by Schrute Bucks on Sep 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

it is addicting

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well all we need for christmas is a decent wr

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Sep 4, 2010 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll go with all of that except the pony. Would rather keep Eric Moore than have a pony…

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

we have two one-trick ponies here. If your pony can get open AND catch the ball then the it would be worth a roster spot.

by pieterzen on Sep 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pony's

are pretty strong, but no sorry… lol

by Zack Bowring on Sep 4, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be surprised if we trade Eric Moore for an undisclosed pick

I don’t think he can made the roster and we’re seeing a lot of teams making late round trades worried a guy they like wont get to them on waivers.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

why do they do undisclosed picks?

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by Schrute Bucks on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of the time it’s to not set the value on players so early in the year.

If someone here’s a backup is worth a 6th round pick they’ll demand more. Sometimes it’s the team trading the pick who has a non disclosure clause.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about a one trick pony

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Sep 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Other news

QB Pat White, WR M. Clayton, and Kicker S. Graham have all been cut. Personally I would like to have Graham back in Charlotte he is way better than T. Carter and would cost about the same whihc is next to nothing. Interesting about White former 2nd rounder in 2009 w/ Dolphins~speaking of a one trick pony or Wildcat QB. Look for something similar to happen with A. Edwards in a couple of seasons. Clayton offers nothing and no way I would want him, all he does is run block and catches nothing only what 3 or 4 TD’s over the last three or four seasons with the Bucs. S. Graham I would take back however please dump T. Carter b/c if Kasay gets hurt their is no way I want T. Carter out their having to kick field goals or PAT’s, and he is not that consistent in kickoffs either but it is not like we score anyway so does it really matter ?

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

No way on two kickers.

I hated it last year when we had two. Shoulda kept Lloyd and dumped Kasay. I want more spots for football players. Repeat after me: KICKERS ARE NOT FOOTBALL PLAYERS. If Kasay gets hurt we could pick up a guy when he gets hurt who is at least as good as he is now.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kasay,God Bless him, can't kick off any more, and his FG range is shrinking.

But you can’t cut Kasay, can you? That just seems too harsh, even if it makes sense.

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by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not personal, just business...

We can build him another statue. I just miss a guy who could boom it into the stands on just about every kickoff.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you serious? Where are you going to find a field goal kicker as reliable as Kasay?

Because he missed a 51 yarder last game? He also made a 51 yarder last game. A lot of teams wont even try a 51 yard fieldgoal.

by MrBernz on Sep 4, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My issue is with his reliability, and his health throughout the season.

I don’t see how a guy his age, who has already seemingly lost a little in the last few years, can hold up all year long. He’s past his time. We’re keeping out of an emotional appeal, not from football sense.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, he set his range pretty well at 51 max. And the one that actually cleared the bar

was low and blockable, if my recollection serves. There’s still nobody I’d want more from 45 in, though, so he’s still a valuable commodity. And he’s a legend, he has tenure so to speak. He’s also a leader and an example to the young guys. So I won’t advocate cutting Kasay to free up a roster space (even with one already wasted on Pike who provides no value).

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by Rick Bates on Sep 4, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Redskins giving up on willie parker. Not saying we should get him by any means, just interesting news.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Jones was just cut to but no shocker their; once promising career may have just officially ended today. No way I would want him either. What the Cards, Vikes, Chargers and another team stated on rotoworld.com that they have made trade offers for TJ and the panthers are not among them. So I guess we can stop with the all TJ to Carolina talk b/c it aint gonna happen no way I would getting into a trading war for a one year rental WR and I would not take on any of his old contract with the Seahawks.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious that every time rotoworld mentions a WR and then mentions possible destinations

based on need, they NEVER mention Carolina.

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

flag football is his "kryptonite

by shaun_bass on Sep 4, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude dont play like that

hes the shit but not God

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Sep 4, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said he was God...

But he is A god. Of football. And punches. And many other manly, manly things.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I agree with the punches part, that man can throw some blows

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Sep 4, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hes better than God..

Hes real, and he performs miracles every Sunday ;)

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by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

lolz

"I kinda just sling it" -Jake

by bleed_in_blue on Sep 4, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But we are in money saving mode and their is no way I would personally take on TJ with or having anything to do with his old contract plus he is nothing but a one year rental anyways. Ah screw it just let LaFell and Edwards and Gettis play and be done with it, b/c so far their is nobody any better than what we have that is not well past their prime or healthy.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are teams jumping to trade for him anyways, force the Seahawks hand and make them outright release TJ and then get into a free for all for him on the free agent market. Why pounce so early ? I just don’t get it of course it could all be a damn smoke screen anyway to drive up the asking price for TJ.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing how much can change in a year...

Last year he was the most sought after WR in free agency and now no one will even give up a late round pick for him!

by jojoisthemann on Sep 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are 7 million reasons for that

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're not sure that's the case

I think negotiations are going on right now. Dallas only wanting a 7th for Crayton definitely blew up the market on WRs, my assumption is numerous teams are interested in a cut and trade, but that requires Housh to play ball and the price to be right.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still pissed

We should have nabbed Crayton yesterday for a 7th rounder; I mean how many 7th rounders become elite pro bowlers ? Colston, Munnerlyn LOL come on Richardson that was move we could have afforded to make especially with all the comp. picks we are going to receive in the offseason.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be that Dallas wanted to trade him out of the NFC

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crayton would have been a good add.

I’m thinking James, below, is right. Dallas probably didn’t want to trade him away only to have him burn them in a playoff game.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we’re 2-0 against the Cowboys in the playoffs. :D

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 4, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess they’re assuming because we have no injuries and just drafted three we’re set.

Doesn’t seem to account for performance.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't

But I just pray and hope are passing game is not tipping its hand and we are truly not as bad as we showed in the preseason. It all comes to a head a week from tomorrow at 1:05 pm EST.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already dumped

Cantwell now hope about D. Jarrett ! C’mon let me see it Football gods.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’ll be waiting a while.

One thing I can guarantee: If you see Dwayne Jarrett cut today there will be a trade or signing announced of a vet.

No way do they roll into this season with Smitty, LaFell and Edwards as the top 3

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably got back into his Astro van and heading back to FLA while doing a line of cocaine what a waste of talent and he had some at one time all be it limited as far as upside.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can dream can’t I Aussie about cutting Jarrett you are right though Jarrett is going to make the team unless something changes in a big hurry which is doubtful during the Fox – era as far as trades and or signings.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

He's being signed pretty much by default.

We just don’t have any depth or experience at the position. He’s one of two guys we have on the roster at receiver that have actually played on the field with this team before. It’s sad, yes, but necessary. Better to have a big possession guy who can’t really play all that well than one of the same who’s in his first year.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about josh reed. I dont know much about him but wasnt he released

YOU CAN GET THE PAW

by the BlackPanther on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup. Worked with Tolbert in Buffalo. Smaller guy, but elusive.

I like him, but not opposite smitty.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Broncos

Just released DE Jarvis Green man that is some highlight reel news we have all been waiting for.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Pfft. DE.

From what I’ve seen we’re pretty set at DE.

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone have an idea of how many more the Cats need to let go of till they hit 53?

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Should be 19 more right? They were at 75 this morning and all reports are Cantwell, Pettiti and Ivy are gone thus far.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. Thanks James

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by Ivan459 on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

About Jarrett

I hate the fact that he has done nothing so far but I actually like him better than the other guys to start the season

We prolly end up with Smitty, Jarrett, Lafell, Edwards, Gettis and Martin. Guy will hopefully end on the PS.

by pieterzen on Sep 4, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Myron Rolle released

Great pickup for a team needed a S

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Man… we should have kept Pep and signed Rolle.

Maybe he could perform open heart surgery and actually prove Pep has one.

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by James Dator on Sep 4, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Myron Rolle...

Wasn’t that the guy that won a Rhodes scholarship while playing football at Free Shoes University?

by The Kackalack Kid on Sep 4, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

sign him up!!!!

Cut Francisco and sign Rolle now!!!

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OH!

by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just checked for update on Charlotte Observer

Got caught up reading their posts…is it just me, or is the peanut gallery over there a wasteland of negative nancies and venom spewing idiots. They complain about the most childish things. It makes my head hurt.

by elecp on Sep 4, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

thank god

they depress me. I have a visual image of 10 year olds fighting over who gets to be Scorpion on Mortal Kombat, then one stabs the other in the eye with a pizza

by elecp on Sep 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incidentally, using a pizza to stab someone is my definition of FLAWLESS VICTORY!

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 4, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Doesnt surprise me a bit

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by Sniff on Sep 4, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought everybody under 30 knew about Mortal Kombat.

That was huge back in the day. Of course, it’s probably best you don’t know. Violence is evil.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 4, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sooo not under 30.

I was past that when Pong was the new hot game.

by bigdavis on Sep 4, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions