Thursday Night Thoughts...
by jkp1516 on Sep 2, 2010 11:01 PM EDT
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Well Panther fans, the final Preseason game is in the books. No need for a lotta intro stuff, here are some after-game thoughts:
The Good
1. LB Jamar Williams was stellar! With 6 tackles and 2 assists, the Panthers got the better end of the Chris Harris trade because if he hadn’t been injured, he would have given Anderson a lot of competition for SLB. Nic Harris also played well (5 tackles, 3 assists).
2. Armanti Edwards. I mean, how bout this dude?!?! Looks like he’s finally got comfortable catching punts in games. Also looked good as a WR, and loved seeing him at QB.
3. “The Mountaineer." Name couldn’t be more perfect. After seeing Edwards play QB, I am convinced that there isn’t a play, formation, and position better crafted for him than that because he can really zing ‘em as well as run wild!
4. Screen Play. Turns out, we are pretty good at running them!
5. 2nd String. Held their own versus the Steelers first string for a while. Props to that!
6. Marcus Hudson. Had some clutch tackles, and redeemed himself from last game.
7. Mike Goodson. Has finally grasped his ability, and looks really ready to contribute as a changeup back. Geeeez, we are stacked with RBs!
8. Pike’s legs. This guy can scramble. Don’t know why but he kind of reminded me of Steve Beuerlein while scrambling. Must’ve been the way he moves or something…
9. Kasay. Gotta lot of respect for this guy! So does Smitty…
10. Tank Tyler. Reminded me of Kris Jenkins for a minute there…
11. Derek Landri and Greg Hardy. Today’s sack artists. By the way Hardy, it was quite electrifying when you pulled Bathroom Ben to the floor on the FIRST play of the game…
12. Newfound CB. Nice play knocking the sure INT out of the receivers hand, Dwayne Jarrett. Maybe it's just that we have Jarrett in the wrong position...
The Bad
I. Penalties. D-Rob had 2 in a row, other backups in the line sucked as well.
II. Screen Plays. Are our only successful passing play, which is pathetic…
III. The Gut. - -> Our Defensive Weakness. Turns out our patch-job defensive tackles, although great at charging the QB, aren’t exactly a concrete wall, but are more like a porous and flimsy wall-on-wheels. We might have some more trouble stopping the run this year ya’ll…
IV. 2nd String and 3rd String D. Couldn’t hold Steelers very long after Steelers’ ones went out.
V. Fiammetta. Looked lost on one play, and didn’t pick up the block. Wonder if this guy has finally figured it all out, or if it was just a mishap…
VI. Gettis vs Martin vs Moore. Did anyone stand out more? Not sure. Gettis had some nice KO returns and had a few catches. Kenny More had a clutch 1st down grab on an Out-Route. Charly Martin had a tackle or two on ST and catch. My guess is edge to Gettis.
VII. Pike vs Cantwell. Who was better? Who will make the team? Couldn’t really tell.
VIII. Kasay. Is he losing his leg? He missed a 50 yarder short, but also made one.
IX. Stanford vs McClain. Both had rookie plays and some redeeming plays, but mostly rookie plays.
X. Todd Carter. Wasn’t blessed with good looks…
XI. Buyers Remorse. Kinda wished we’d taken Emmanuel Sanders more than Brandon LaFell in the third round. LaFell, who’s been the “surprise of camp” didn’t even record a catch. Good grief LaFell, even Dwayne Jarrett got a catch…
The UGGG-LY
A. Concussions: Jamie Petrowski had one, no doubt. What a horrific hit!
B. Passing Game. Sucks. Period. Will any body start worrying besides me?? I mean, no one can get open, even against 2nd and 3rd tier Defenses, and still no offensive TD yet!
C. No TDs. Need I say more??
D. Culberson. You were terrible and couldn’t tackle a tackling dummy…Buh-bye! Won’t be missing ya!
Special Shout Out
1. Told You So… Dear Jaxon (->“I’ll believe it when I see it”) and all others who doubted me when I guaranteed Armanti in Wildcat plays as the QB: I TOLD YOU SO! Sorry, had to get that out…
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I REALLY liked
seeing them mix it up with armanti in wildcat. He was pretty on target.. Now if they can just make it work.
Looks like Big Ben finally got what was coming to him...
Ben: Where are we going?
#71: It’s okay.
Unofficial Agent for Armanti Edwards, WR #10, Carolina Panthers
BTW I know this is random... BUT
I can’t use WR’S for wildcat QB in Madden 11. Should I switch Edwards to RB or something. Would you recommend that?
if you used miamis playbook...
And put armanti on the depth chart at WR2 you could use him. But I wouldn’t do it. Also check out the Browns wildcat.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill
OH!
by STEVEN 785 on Sep 4, 2010 12:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Armanti may have just played both Cantwell and Pike off the roster.
There weren’t too many important conclusions to be drawn from tonight’s scrimmage (can’t really call that stuff a ‘game’, now, can we?), but these are my thoughts:
1) The multiple plays in which Armanti Edwards was in at QB shows me that the coaches want to get this guy on the field any way they can. It may well be that he’s a better QB than either Cantwell or Pike. For all the jabber about how those two sidestepped rushers, and avoided sacks (they were under a lot of duress, due to poor blitz pickups by Savage, Fiammetta, and the overall poor blocking of the backups in on the OL – Duke Robinson is pitifully slow and a liability with all the Holding calls he’ll get, if he plays – he’s PS material, at best, IMO), (whew, long run-on sentence, bear with me: I’m about to extract myself from this with a period, I guarantee it), repeat, from all the jabber…they can’t hold a candle to Edwards in mobility from the QB slot. Plus, I think he’s got a better arm than both of them.
I’d waive, cut, PS ‘em both and keep Edwards as the emergency backup 3rd QB, thereby saving a roster spot for someone who’ll actually do more than hold a clipboard. If I HAD to keep one of them. it’d be Cantwell, since Pike is terribly slow in decision-making, plus he rolls out to his left side, from whence he can’t throw, even if he could see a receiver open, which he doesn’t even when they are. Dump him. One draft mistake is no shame.
2) Anybody notice the vast number of plays that Greg Hardy was in on tonight? I’m not gonna bother with a play-by-play on this travesty of a game, but I do admire this man, who gives his all in pursuit on EVERY SINGLE PLAY HE’S IN FOR, unlike that guy who used to be here. He is a man possessed, and determined to show his detractors, who questioned his ‘attitude,’ that he’s to be reckoned with, every single play. When EBrown or CJohnson or TBrayton take a rest, we’ll never skip a beat in our DL pressure.
3) I agree with jkp1516 on his astute observations on Jamar Williams , Derek Landri (he deserves to be starting DT, he’s earned it), and Mike Goodson. I differ, however, on Marcus Hudson, who could be seen floating somewhere in space, trying desperately to avoid contact with their rusher on the big second half run up the middle. Hudson could have twice intercepted that run, but danced out of the way, with graceful agility, both times, until the play was dead, at which time he stood over the fallen runner and stared. Not much effort from someone who’s supposed to be a “Strong” Safety.
4) David Gettis did cough up one pass, after taking a brutal hit, but he’s done enough in past games to convince me he’s worthy of a roster spot as WR – plus tonight he showed he’s got some slick moves and speed as a KRer. I saw nothing comparable from LaFell, Martin, or KMoore to convince me any of them had won such a spot, though of course LaFell’s secure.
5) We’ll certainly be hearing a lot in the press in the next few days about our totally inept, impotent goose-egg of an offense, but pay it no mind. These 4 games were just a ruse to throw off our future opponents, into thinking we HAD no offense. That’ll change, once we don’t have to play bums like Crummy, Hisatake, Robinson, and the like.
6) I still like what I see from the unheralded #68, Andre Neblett, and hope he makes the PS, if there’s no room at the inn. He’s got a good future.
7)…oh and Fiammetta had better go back and study those blocking primers. He looked lost out there tonight. Ain’t gonna be no 1,110 yd rushers on the Panthers, unless he gets his A game back.
Night, night, all. Can’t wait for the upsets to start next Sunday.
by bigdavis on Sep 3, 2010 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed on all points
If we have to keep a 3rd QB not named Armanti, then it should be Cantwell, because he at least has the arm strength to throw a good ball without getting WRs killed. It was painful to watch last night everytime Pike would throw a pass, it would just seem to float up there, and a lot of WRs took HUGE hits because of it. That isn’t just a learning thing, that is arm strength that he probably will never have.
I say we cut/PS them both, and do as bigdavis says, let Armanti be the emergency 3rd QB, give that roster spot to someone else who we could use, such as to a KOS.
Unofficial Agent for Armanti Edwards, WR #10, Carolina Panthers
I agree
we’re screwed if we actually had to play a real game with Cantwell or Pike at QB anyway, so the only reason to keep them around is for developmental purposes. PS em both, see who sticks and make Armanti QB3 to make room for Smoothie.
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by John Chilton on Sep 3, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly...
I just don’t care who we keep at WR anymore.
If anything, this preseason has shown one thing: they’re all just about even. I really don’t think it matters at this point who we keep or who we cut because in the end I expect the same amount of production from all of them.
I really wish they’d make Rosario a WR instead of a TE though. He can’t be any slower than Moose.
"Emergency" 3rd QB
This is a special position that we would probably not use for AE. It would give us an extra active player that we could not use until the 4th quarter or else the 1st and 2nd QB would not be allowed back out on the field. I think everyone is talking about AE being the 3rd QB not the "emergency "3rd QB. It will be interesting to see if having an emergency QB is important to the Panthers or if keeping some other talent that will be inactive on game day wins out.
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