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Panthers vs Steelers Preseason Game #4 Preview

It's preseason game #4 so history tells us this game is about the bubble players and the team flushing out the remainder of their open roster spots. The starters are expected to play no more than 1 quarter if not less and will give way to the back-ups. We do have some obvious things to look for with the starters on both sides of the ball:

Note: Open Thread tonight at 7:30pm!

1st Team Offense: How about to simply score a TD? Novel idea I know. If I'm Fox I say score a TD on your first drive and I let you sit the rest out. Don't score and you play the whole quarter. I would love to play them more and hopefully work on the passing game but I'm too worried about the injury risk. I wouldn't mind if they are pulled after the first series regardless.

One other thing to observe is who starts at RG. If Mackenzy Bernardeau is in there again then that pretty much says he has locked down the RG spot. The only risk in that assessment is the possibility of Geoff Schwartz being moved over to RG once RT Jeff Otah returns game 1.

Back-up Offense: We've seen plenty of Clausen so expect him to go through the 2nd quarter and maybe into the 3rd. I'd rather let Hunter Cantwell and Tony Pike take a quarter each to audition for their spot on the 53 man....

1st Team defense: Do we really need to see much of the defense? As much as I would like to see how they perform against Big Ben I would rather see most of the he starters sit after the first series. But there's the rub, who's starting at DT? Since we don't really know we can expect to see a lot of rotation up front, probably until well into the 2nd quarter. This is also another position where I will be curious to see who starts. It should indicate who has the inside track on those two spots....more after the jump...

Star-divide

Back-up Defense: Outside of DT we have serious competition for back-up spots at LB and in the secondary. We know Eric Norwood and probably Jordan Senn have roster spots; Senn for his work on ST. That leaves room for one or two more LB's. Look for Jamar Williams, Morty Ivy, Quinton Culberson and Nic Harris to try and light it up tonight.

At safety we have Jordan Pugh nailing down a spot given how high the coaches are on him. So that leaves Aaron Francisco trying to unseat special teamer Marcus Hudson. I'm not seeing that one since I've seen little of Francisco since he's been hurt.

At CB we have one or two positions to fill. Incumbent CJ Wilson is getting pressure from Brian Witherspoon who had two (YES TWO!) INTs last week. In the mix we also have the twin 7th round CB picks Robert McClain and RJ Stanford. Both have had their moments on special teams but I think the Panthers have room for one of them at best. 

The last spot that might be earned could go to DE Eric Moore. He has looked really good this preseason. If he plays well tonight he won't wait for a job long if the Panthers still cut him.

Special Teams: If KOS Tood Carter belts all his kicks tonight into the end zone he is on the roster. Fox prefers to let a team start at the 20 versus trying to cover a return.

With Wallace Wright on IR as of Tuesday we need another gunner. One of young DB's such as RJ Stanford or Jordan Pugh could get a shot. Let's see who lines up on the Panthers first KO and punt coverage.

Lastly the return game is still up in the air. Mike Goodson made a solid case for KO returns with his 91 yarder for a TD last week. We might still see others rotation in there tonight but I'm hoping they just let Goodson get the reps.

On PRs I'd like to see Trent Guy again. (Nope, GUY is out) The benching of Armanti Edwards, though painful, is the best route for the Panthers and Edwards. He could very well re-emerge at the position later in the season but for now lets see how Guy and Witherspoon perform. Both are on the bubble and need a good showing tonight.

Poll
With Trent Guy out, who do you want to see return punts tonight against the Steelers?
Brian Witherspoon
74 votes
Armanti Edwards
157 votes
Kenny Moore
19 votes
Captain Munnerlyn
40 votes
Charly Martin
19 votes

309 votes | Poll has closed

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Trent Guy and Aaron Fransisco aren't dressing tonight

It’s a shame for Fransisco, he never got a chance, injured and never got back on the field.
Unfortunately, I think Eric Moore’s roster spot is going to go to a KOS, if not Carter, then someone. He’s played great this preseason, but he’s the most expendable of the bubble players.

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by Sniff on Sep 2, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Not good to hear Guy isn't dressing

Maybe it was too little, too late.

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming it’s because of the hamstring and not a coaches decision that he’s already considered a CUT. He could have made a statement to take the ST/WR spot tonight with a big PR showing. Hammy came at the worst possible time for him.

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by Sniff on Sep 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So more Edwards?

Or Witherspoon?

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by Jaxon on Sep 2, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Munnerlyn out as well, probably will see both get multiple opportunities

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by Sniff on Sep 2, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not try Goodson too?

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

wondering the same thing

Looks like he had a handle on the KR job, why not let him try his hand at PR?

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by Tater596 on Sep 2, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot he was injured. Hate that he won't be able to play tonight...

that is really going to hurt his chances…

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by John Chilton on Sep 2, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I didn’t realize the hammy problem was bad enough to miss the game.

Perhaps they can stash him on the PS

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just in case anyone hasn't seen the list yet.

Nine players won’t make the trip to Pittsburgh: CBs Munnerlyn, Wilson and Marshall, DE Brayton, S Francisco, RB Sutton, OL Otah and Davis and WR Guy.

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by Sniff on Sep 2, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, Cap, Marshall, and Wilson.

McClain and Stanford should have fun competing against each other.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming that we will see Wilson, Davis and Guy on the next round of cuts… maybe Francisco too

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully I should be home to catch most of this one, especially since it’ll be the only game I’ll likely see up here.

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 2, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

NFL.com questions to Bucky Brooks

Bernz, New Jersey2:13 PM ET
Why is it that the Panthers get so little respect? I know Moore hasnt played a lot but he has a record of 6-2 as a starter. I know they dont have the greatest #2 receiver but they have never had a great #2 receiver & have done well before without it. Their running game is top of the line & their defense is playing lights out.
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com
Bernz, I’m doing a little fist pump for you since your representin’ Jersey… Anyways, I think the Panthers may be a surprise team this year. Their rushing attack is top-notch, and the presence of Steve Smith makes their offense explosive. On defense, they don’t have a lot of stars, but their effort and energy has been good throughout the preseason. I think that John Fox has done a good job of getting them ready, and I can see them emerging as a playoff team.

by MrBernz on Sep 2, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for sharing

I think that is a fair analysis by Brooks… not a lot of stars, but a lot of effort and energy. I’d rather that than a lot of stars and little energy (Peppers, cough)

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might just be......

the only thing to ever come out of Bucky Brooks mouth that I agreed with. Thanks for sharing that.

by ALAC on Sep 2, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey everyone

I’m new posting here, but I’ve been reading your posts for a while. I really enjoy the overall morale and dedication here. I figured I would just introduce myself. I also wanted to add a prediction for tonights game. If I’m wrong, I’ll blame it on heartburn. Hunter Cantwell is gonna light it up tonight, don’t know why, I just have a feeling he’s gonna connect with Lafell on a couple bombs.

by elecp on Sep 2, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

welcome to CSR!

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by John Chilton on Sep 2, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

NEW PERSON!!!

Hey new person!!

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome!

Here’s hoping you’re right. I’d love to see more out of both Cantwell and LaFell

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by James Dator on Sep 2, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY NEW PERSON!!!!!

great to have you! I too think that Cantwell is going to be firing missiles tonight.

by ALAC on Sep 2, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Oh. I’ve also had something thats been brewing since the preseason game. I’m thinking I may do some research on it and post an article.

by elecp on Sep 2, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I expect..

A very low scoring game. Maybe 10-6 Panthers.

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by D-Ranged1 on Sep 2, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

You're probably right, but Lord I hope not!!!!

I’d rather lose 32-28 than win 10-6. I’m ready to see some friggin offense.!

by ALAC on Sep 2, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect it to be higher

I think Roethlisberger will play for like a half & he is a good qb, against our back up defense after the first quarter he may score more.

by MrBernz on Sep 2, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I think our backup defense is almost as good as the first string.

There’s little dropoff on the line. The linebackers are pretty decent. Pugh at safety has proven himself so far. The real test will be the corners. McClain, Stanford, and Witherspoon will have their chance to shine. I hope they run with it.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 2, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I especially hope Witherspoon runs with it...

when he gets another pick lol.

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by Rick Bates on Sep 2, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Armanti or Spoon on PR duty...

We all know that Armanti is getting a spot. Spoon on the other hand is still questionable. I know he had an impressive night last week, but he is definitley on the bubble. AND HE IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN PADS ON THE TEAM, PERIOD. You can teach technique but you can’t teach speed! I say, let spoon return KR and PR. If he gets tired, get Armanti in there for some reps to get more comfortable. The way the D has been playing, I think there will be plenty of PR to go around for both. What do ya’ll think?

by jagz1998 on Sep 2, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this true about Witherspoon?
AND HE IS THE FASTEST PLAYER IN PADS ON THE TEAM, PERIOD

I’d like to see the race, between all the guys on the roster who believe that they are the fastest one on the team.

by dudemanhey on Sep 2, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, this is true...

Check him out on youtube. Not to mention Tyrell Sutton and Mike Goodson both said he was the fastest in pads. I have no idea who is the fastest without, but that doesn’t really matter anyway.

by jagz1998 on Sep 2, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fastest

It was said during training camp that Trent Guy was probably the fastest player on the team . And no he doesn’t run a 4.5 – 4.6 that silver82blade keeps happily posting , he runs a 4.3 easily . I’ve seen him first hand on the track and on the football field .

by Jago1 on Sep 3, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Guy would be the fastest, but Witherspoon is quick. The big thing about that quickness is the ability to change direction. Did you notice how quickly he cut back for the last int.

by elecp on Sep 2, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Got a softball game tonight BUT

it’s good to know I can catch the end and then read the in-depth analysis here within 24 hours. Seriously, ya’ll are a better source of Panther news than anywhere else.

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by Schrute Bucks on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I like the periodicals, but I am addicted to reading your posts everyday. Forgive me, if I just jumped right in, but I’ve been reading you guys for a LONG time now, and I’m the overall attitude. This site is awesome.

by elecp on Sep 2, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I really hope we keep Eric Moore as a #5 DE. We only need 4 DT’s, because if someone goes down in a game, we can always rotate Brayton or Johnson into the DT position when needed. If we follow the Giants of 07-08, having 5 DE’s who can constantly keep pressure on the QB will disrupt and nullify almost any passing game.

We need a terrific pass rush by committee to defeat the saints, and with Johnson, UPS, Brayton, Hardy, and Moore…. well, lets just say that will be a tough challenge for any offensive line.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 2, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Great logic, on all counts.

Eric Moore has earned his spot, way more so than any 5th DT.

by bigdavis on Sep 2, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, the flexibility of most of our DEs to move inside. I like the idea of

keeping 5 with Eric Moore. The more Moores, the better, i always say.

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by Rick Bates on Sep 2, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one...

who thinks Fox will do exactly what he always does? Starters play 1 series, maybe 2. That’s it. The back ups will take over from there and we will see an extensive look at some of our fringe players.

I think Clausen will still play a good bit just to see what he can do, but I doubt it’ll be more than a quarter.

by aceofsween on Sep 2, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I think so too.

He doesnt want to let any of his starters get hurt while the other teams 4th string defense is trying to make a name for themselves.

by MrBernz on Sep 2, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Score doesn't matter tonight.

This last exhibition will be decided, most likely, by backups who make mistakes and probably won’t make the final roster. (Hopefully theirs.)

The only priority (more than avoiding injuries) is to evaluate the WR candidates, and in so doing, the viability of the QB’s.

by bigdavis on Sep 2, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno, Ben is supposed to play most of this game, isn’t he?

by aceofsween on Sep 2, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly he is. Which makes this the best scenario for the D. They get to play against a two time Super Bowl winner in big ben, plus if they do poorly, at least it doesn’t count towards anything.

Win-win in my view.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 2, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to make it personal, but with a daughter who just graduated college...

I hope Hardy or someone hits him so hard he doesn’t wake up until his suspension’s over. I used to respect the QB Ben, but now I can’t respect anything about Ben.

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by Rick Bates on Sep 2, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lost respect for him as well. I just think it will be a good test for the second and third string D.

I also hope we get another 7 sacks tonight…. just on him.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 2, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn! Room starting to spin..

delightful feeling…another hit, please.

by bigdavis on Sep 2, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

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OH!

by STEVEN 785 on Sep 2, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

WR's and DL

WR’s -Smitty, Jarrett, Lafell, Edwards, Gettis, and K. Moore.

DL- C. Johnson, Brown, E. Johnson, Leonard, T. Tyler, T. Brayton, Hardy, Landers, E Moore.

by NCByrdman on Sep 2, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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