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Who I'm Mad at: Week 1

Well, how do I explain my feelings at this moment. Disappointed? Nah, that's probably the understatement of the century. I think I'll just say that I am overall just irritated with the Panthers in many phases of the game.

First off, apologies must be made. I got on the Matt Moore bandwagon. I made the mistake of believing that Matt Moore was the reincarnation of Tony Romo himself. I was led to believe that he was the greatest thing to happen to our team since Bob the Builder made some improvements to the stadium, and I am sorry for that.

With that aside, I'm upset with my Panthers today. I've thought of many ways I could detail just how upset I am, but before that happens how about I just run through a list of guys I don't like on our team.

1. Jeff Davidson

Public enemy #1. I never have liked him. Never have, never will. Others like him, but I get irritated when he constantly abandons the running game, sometimes at the drop of a hat. Tell me, how the hell do you get within 4 yards end-zone with a QB that has only started 8 games in his 5 year career, and throw the ball 3 straight times and end up with a interception? Honestly. We're talking about a team that prides themselves on running the football, and you throw it 3 straight times instead of putting the goal-line formation out there and letting Jonathan Stewart or Deangelo Williams go pound the ball for a touchdown. Seven points, thrown to the wind.

Where is the logic here?

Star-divide

2. Charles Godfrey

This one I saw coming. I've been telling you all about this guy since Chris Harris got traded. "We're going to miss Harris when the regular season rolls around." I said to you guys. "Godfrey has had two years to step up and prove to us he's a good player, and he hasn't shown anything until his job was threatened by Sherrod Martin."

Well, look what happened. Sure, Charles Godfrey got two interceptions. Both were balls that the receivers tipped into the air for easy picks. Anyone can make plays like that when it's delivered to them on a silver platter. But whenever the Panthers needed him otherwise in coverage, Godfrey was nowhere to be found. On the other hand, he is easy to see whenever Hakeem Nicks is prancing around and celebrating his latest touchdown. His hands are on his hips, and he's counting the clouds.

This is my favorite play from Godfrey in the 2nd half. Take a good look at #30 here. Watch as Godfrey drops all the way back away from all the action, and then sits on his ass while Bradshaw blows by him. Sherrod Martin literally has to come all the way back up from where he was playing in run support and make the tackle, with Godfrey jogging in behind him.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010091206/2010/REG1/panthers@giants#tab:watch ((5th one from the top))

I'm going to say this right now. Until further notice, he is the weakest link in our defense.

3. Greg Hardy

No, actually I like this guy. Greg Hardy needs to get more playing time. Despite being forced to backup and special teams duty, the man still manages to show up and score a safety with a blocked punt. Surely now the Panthers coaching staff will recognize his talent and give him more time on the field right?

Right....?

4. Matt Moore's interceptions in the End-zone

This was the difference in the game. Three interceptions from Matt Moore, all three in the end-zone. This right here was the difference between victory and defeat. Let's say we convert all three of those interceptions to field goals. The Panthers lose against the Giants 27-31. Does that sound as bad as 18-31? Not at all. This was mentioned in John Fox's post-game press conferences with good reason. They were opportunities wasted because Matt Moore forgot which color of blue was the good one.

And the more interceptions that Matt throws, the more the defense has to spend out on the field, wearing them out and leaving the other team ripe to pull away with touchdown after touchdown.

Final thoughts


Next week we will face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They will be a good opponent for us to break in Jimmy Clausen. It's going to be an entirely new week. I think it's safe to assume that we'll see an entirely new offense on the field with him under center, for better or for worse. We need to establish our running game and make our opponents fear it, and then we can worry about Jimmy Clausen making plays down the field to Steve Smith, Dante Rosario, and Brandon Lafell. Until Deangelo Williams and Johnny Stewart get back to making 10-20 yard runs on a usual basis though, it's all for naught.

Our defense will get better as the year rolls along as well. Remember, a lot of the bad play in the 4th Quarter was because they were just out there for so damn long. But we need to fix these blown coverages, especially with Charles Godfrey. I truly hope that this was just one bad game for him, or else teams will be throwing to his side of the field all year long. Captain and Brayton didn't have good games either, and the interior of our defensive line is nothing to be proud about. We'll get better as the year rolls on, but steps need to be taken to improve it. It could always be worse, in Ron Meeks I trust.

Those are my thoughts for this Monday Night.

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Those are the only people you're disappointed in?

I could name the ones I was happy with on one hand.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Sep 12, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Amen !

I posted merely on the players but I am glad to see another Panther nation alum posting on how s$#@ J. Davidson is . Can you believed it was rumored at one time that he was going to take over this team when Fox is gone after this season ? B. Cowher is what this team and franchise need and it would create true excitement for the Panther’s fan base again. Anyways agreed with Godfrey and if he continues to stubble it is going to be a long year. Godfrey, Anderson, Conner, D. Williams and more are all in contract years so whomever doesn’t perform is out of here. We have 75.33 millon in cap space and it will be more than that after week 16. Panthers offense needs life support just to stay alive b/c right now it is dead. Smitty, Goodson, Munnerlyn, Anderson stand out in my mind in todays game which should tell you something about how crappy it was.

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 12, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh and C. Johson did nothing, E. Brown cannot play against the run, Brayton was invisible need I go on. Makes you wonder how much gameplanning went into this one. An why was Goodson on the field more than J.Stew ? I guess we better get ready to see that next season J.Stew/Goodson/Sutton it is looking more and more likely that it is going to be the Panther RB’s depth chart next year. Goodson has made big strides this season but as our only good backup as it stand right now umm yikes !

by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Cowher would shred our defense and force us to rebuild it from scratch. We don’t need him.

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10000000

If, and I mean IF we are going to replace Foxy, I would prefer someone like Gruden…

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 12, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

Why Meeks? I’m really asking……why does everyone suddenly think this guy would be a good head coach? I don’t know much about the guy but from everything I can gather, he seems to be “just another guy” as far as coaching is concerned. I’m not really even sold on the fact that he’s that great of a defensive coordinator.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 13, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to choose between the coaches we have in house, it would be Meeks.

Which is what holty said …. his “in house choice”

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I didn't misinterpret what was said...

I’m just curious as to why. I’m not being confrontational, I’m just trying to understand what it is that makes you think he would be a good coach. You might be right.

Personally, I’d choose Brian Baker as my “in house” pick. No particular reason other than youth and enthusiasm. Honestly though, I’d much rather find someone outside the club with a proven track record. Preferably on the offensive side of the ball.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 14, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. Meeks and Baker are fine at what they do. Keep them at it, as long as they'll stay.

The duties of a HC are far more than those of an assistant. Though most HCs were at one time assistants, it doesn’t logically follow that every good assistant, or coordinator, will make a good HC.

by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meeks might be a great candidate....

I just don’t know enough about him to have a strong opinion one way or the other. I’d just like someone that is ready to call him “their guy” to enlighten me as to why. I might jump on the bandwagon, I might not, I’m just trying to understand it thru their eyes.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 14, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't answer that for you, because he's not "my guy"

He’s my guy over Gump Davidson, but that’s about it.

I would prefer them to hire Gruden myself, but that’s just me.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 14, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am almost ready to say I told you so

With stinky ass matt moore handed the keys without competition, the panthers have dug themselves in a hole of bullcrap. It is almost all moores decision making in nthe red zone that cost them the game. Fox knew who matt moore was and that is why he was our 3rd string QB last year. I am not sold on #2 either he didnt seem to have any zipp on the ball in preseason, arm strength looks weak. So now what, my 4 -12 prediction looks pretty good, huh?

by Jacob Robinson on Sep 14, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm... considering it was the first game of the season, no

Come back and spew your vitriol if we’re 0-7, then you might gain some credibility

Until then … back under your bridge, troll.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 14, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

First of all, I think there was competition.

There just wasn’t anyone in camp that was good enough to unseat Moore. Why would you advertise the competition? Moore entered camp as the starter as he should have. No one else on the roster had ever done anything as a pro and Moore’s done nothing but produce.

I was at training camp for 5 days. There was no question as to who was the best QB. Disguise them and take the numbers of the jerseys and you would still have picked Moore as the best QB 10 out of 10 times. I’m not saying best in the NFL, I’m saying best on the field in Spartanburg, SC.

Now, let me preface the rest with this. I don’t like Jimmy Clausen. I didn’t like him coming out of high school, I didn’t like him at Notre Dame, and I couldn’t have been more pissed off when we drafted him. These feelings are more because of some of the stupid, arrogant shit he did off the field, but they are there non the less. To date, as a Carolina Panther, he has done nothing but impress me.

Clausen got exponentially better as camp progressed, but I still don’t think he gives us a better chance to win than Moore right now. If he continues to progress this quickly though, I can see Clausen pushing Moore by as early as week 6. I think he reads defenses as well or better than Moore and he is more aware in the pocket. I also think Clausen keeps his eyes downfield when Moore tends to panic. I think Moore had a bad game Sunday and I truly believe that he will turn it around. If not, Clausen needs to come in (sooner rather than later) and get some playing time so he can prepare to be our QB of the future.

For the record, you can stick your 4-12 prediction where the sun don’t shine. I still believe we will win a minimum of 6 games this season. But, if 4-12 ends up being the case and you are happy to rub it in…….well I don’t know how much of a Panther fan you really are.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 14, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, if 4-12 ends up being the case and you are happy to rub it in…….well I don’t know how much of a Panther fan you really are.

Couldn’t agree more myself… I smell a troll.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 14, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I feel you guys pain, but, I will be surprised if the Panthers win a damn game this year, 4 – 12 seems generous right about now. Still think they will win 6 games? I would rather be a Troll that knows what the frack he is talking about than a bunch of stat monkeys that thought Matt Moore was a legitimate starting QB in this league. Yes that includes you bwsmith, Dranged, all you guys.

by Jacob Robinson on Sep 30, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Sherrod Martin have a pick early on?

I could swear I saw #23 make a pick on the Giants in the redzone.

by THECatCrave on Sep 13, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

he did...

If I remember right it was in the first quarter

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

He didn’t pick off the pass, he dropped it. Anderson got the pick on the next play.

And, it was in the 2nd quarter.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He came close but it hit him in the hands and he threw it at his feet. No cigar.

He came close though. He made sure to put himself in the right position to make the play.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 13, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

just a heads up

richard marshall made that tackle…not sherrod

by SouthernPanther on Sep 13, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

the one tackle he made all day...

did marshall trip and fall into him, or was the guy he was holding pull him to the play by accident?

by gdhood on Sep 13, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Public enemy #1. I never have liked him. Never have, never will..."

You can say that again.. and again… One more time… I’m completely disappointed. This feeling is waaayyy too familiar, just like last year. I am not calling for Moore’s head just yet but I refuse to follow him as blindly as I did Delhomme. If his next game is anything like this, I may have to reconsider my opinion of him. I’m tired of these would be, could be QB’s. It will be interesting to see Clausen next week. What’s worse is the fact I wasn’t even all that impressed with the Giants. It definitely isn’t a game I feel we got beat but one that I feel we beat ourselves. By all means, this game should have been a victory.

I’m also a bit frustrated with our run game. Where was Double Trouble today?! No-where to be found! Stewart was embarassing and Williams just wasn’t getting it done.

Fun Fact: Moore had a QB rating of 32.6 while Jake Delhomme had a QB rating of 59.2. Irony.

Overall Panthers Draft Grade: A

by D-Ranged1 on Sep 13, 2010 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Irony indeed.

What irks me the most about the play-calling is that this was all in the 4th Quarter when the running game is traditionally the most successful. When Davidson screwed us at the goal line with 3 straight passing plays, we were only 15 points behind with about 11 minutes to go in the game. Let’s say that Deangelo Williams runs it in for a TD? Suddenly, it’s a 1 possession game and we’re fighting to force overtime.

The game wasn’t all on Davidson, we played bad in all phases of the game. Heck, our special teams might have done terrible too if the Giants had a decent kicker. But the worst part about the entire game was that Davidson denied us the opportunity to right our wrongs and make the comebacks that the Panthers used to be remembered for. It was the icing on the cake.

In the end, Davidson has his game plan. He’s going to execute it no matter the costs, and the trend shows itself time and time again when he makes decisions like this. Sometimes it doesn’t hurt us when his game plan works and we’re firing off on all cylinders. But if we’re thrown off our groove, we’re walking on a slippery floor.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1
In the end, Davidson has his game plan. He’s going to execute it no matter the costs…

And nine times out of ten, his game plan is the primary cause we suck on Sunday, because he’s too stubborn to admit that his gameplanning skills aren’t up to par with the rest of the league.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace

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by BW Smith on Sep 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stewart only what? 4 carries?

That’s on the OC not the RB. He can’t give the ball to himself!

by dudemanhey on Sep 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is exactly what..

“No-where to be found!” meant. Only one half of double trouble seen the field for any decent amount of time and Stewart certainly didn’t make the most of the 5 carries he received.

Overall Panthers Draft Grade: A

by D-Ranged1 on Sep 13, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, he needs to put that mother fucker back on.......

I think he was whispering common sense into his ear…

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 13, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

*sorry for the MF-Bomb.....

I’m still pretty sore from yesterday.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum

by ALAC on Sep 13, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we might need some Pugh.

Godfrey was atrocious. He made the CBs look bad, because he FAILED to give the Tampa 2 help. That stupid turf wasn’t ready for an NFL game either. Our DBs were slipping and sliding all over the place. Definite home field advantage for Giants and Jets. (not to make excuses, it’s just a fact. Trying to run and cut on wet rubber pellets can’t be easy, which is why Jacobs looked better than Bradshaw)

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Also, Moore's red zone decisions were just awful. Play calling could have been better,

but Moore decided to throw floaters into coverage. I’m sorry he got hurt, and I didn’t think I’d be saying this, but I’m looking forward to seeing Pickles next week. If nothing else, he’s a slippery little SOB. Now if he can learn to keep his head up while eluding the rush, we may actually have a receiver that can find a hole and actually catch a ball.

The good: Smitty, Beason, Connor, Hardy, Goodson, STs (yay), Anderson, Fiametta, and Jarrett (at the end)

Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.

by Rick Bates on Sep 13, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

"he’s a slippery little SOB"

Now if he can only show an ability to throw a pass, under duress, in the field of play.

by bigdavis on Sep 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Um, I saw him do that in the preseason.

And had Clausen been throwing it away Sunday we’d have scored nine more points.

Ready for 2010 football already!!!

by Flowing Willow on Sep 13, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moore completed 5 passes for 60 yards on the 4th quarter drive, which ended with the 1st INT.

When we got to the NY 4, the OC should have stopped calling passes, and run it in.

Not sure Clausen could have/ would have thrown those 5 completions. He’d have been too busy tossing them OOB.

by bigdavis on Sep 13, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, seriously, your Moore fanaticism has gotten the best of you. You’re sounding like Procton concerning Delhomme. Just drop it.

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet...

…if Clausen had thrown the INTs instead of Moore, bigD would not be cutting him the same amount of slack. I don’t quite understand the hate for Clausen coming from him.

No offense bigD, but anytime we talk about Clausen v. Moore, you always revert to criticism about him throwing the ball away. At least the people who do want to see Clausen play give Moore credit where credit was due. And yes, he does deserve credit for the drive he put together before the half. But all in all, he play very, very poorly. Bottom line.

by aceofsween on Sep 14, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't 'hate' Clausen one bit.

As I’ve posted before, I’m glad he was drafted, that he’s on the team, and that if and when he plays, I’ll support him as strongly as I do Moore.

As for Moore, I’ve posted more than a few times that I was disappointed in his poor throws in the Giants game, but pointed out to those calling for his ouster, that he made many great passes, too. His bad decision making in the Red Zone can be corrected in future by film study and discipline and coaching instruction. It could have been avoided in this game by different play selection from his OC, who as I’ve said, put him in a position to fail. The Giants’ safeties are excellent in short space coverage, and what might have worked against a different tea, hadn’t a chance in this one.

I imagine Moore will start vs the Bucs (it looks that way as I write), but if Clausen starts, or gets in at all, I’m all for him. He’s a Panther, after all. Mainly, I’ve been supporting Moore in the face of many strident calls for his being replaced.

I’ve made my point, and will now withdraw. Have at him. Neither you nor I nor Slayer, nor Oldham, nor Pitbull, will have anything to do with who plays and who sits, anyway. It’s just our opinions, not our sway with the staff.

by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Some people don't have brains, or whatever it takes, to comprehend nuance, BigD

Some people have to have a black and white world – with no shades of grey. I blame a lot of that on computers. Computers can only think in binary terms – 0 or 1. On or Off. Right or left.

So since you support Matt Moore, you MUST hate Clausen right? There are some folks on here that really need to think before they type.

keep up the good work, BigD.

by dudemanhey on Sep 14, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm reminded of "Short Attention Span Theater"

Was that skit on SNL, or Second City? Can’t recall.

Thanks for your nuanced comment, dude.

by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think you missed my point...

When you talk about just Clausen, you sound reasonable.

When you talk about Clausen and Moore together, you heap praises on more and do a lot of hand-waving and blame-spreading for Moore, but don’t apply that same philosophy to Clausen. All I’m pointing out is the double standard you have developed.

Moore throws 3 INTs? “It’s partly his fault, but you should really blame…”
Clausen throws away? “It doesn’t matter that his WRs weren’t open…”

I dunno, maybe you’d prefer he just take a sack?

by aceofsween on Sep 14, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know Clausen could have.

That TD throw to Smith by Moore was a type of throw I’ve seen Clausen make dozens of times. Whether he would have is something we could find out this week.

Ready for 2010 football already!!!

by Flowing Willow on Sep 14, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

START PUGH!

Revshawn, i agree with your hatred for Godrey. i have never liked him. ever. he is undoubtedly our weakest link. he blows coverage WAY to much for a safety. If Eli and the G-men can tear him apart time and time again, god help us when we play Brees or Palmer or anybody else

by Dirty Dan on Sep 14, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

godfrey

Yes he looked bad a lot, but Gamble didnt look much better. I think I could tackle better than Gamble. There were a couple plays he got beat bad and Godfrey was there to pick up the pieces with a good tackle. I think the defense was on the field way too much because of the O-line play and the decision making of stinky matt moore. Made our defense look kind of ordinary though they were making some plays.

by Jacob Robinson on Sep 14, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gamble made some very solid tackles.

He was actually our best corner on the day, how much of Steve Smith did you hear? The turf did a number on our entire secondary.

Ready for 2010 football already!!!

by Flowing Willow on Sep 15, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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