Panthers vs. Giants: Blogger Q & A
Welcome to the first edition of Blogger Q&A for the Panthers 2010 season. Answering my questions is Ed Valentine from Big Blue View SBN's Giants affiliate. Ed was so kind to answer a few questions around what some might call a sore spot, the Giants final home game at the old Giants Stadium against the Panthers. You can read my answers to his questions here. So let's get to it. Oh, and I did get to get to talk to Ed briefly last night (sorry about the audio problems!) so when you read these questions you must use the proper accents in your head. Think of Bubba with a slow southern drawl asking the questions and then a thick NY accent answering the questions, think Christopher Walken in Joe Dirt! It's a must!
Question 1: Do you think last's year game between these two teams will have any bearing on this game? ie...is there a revenge factor based on not opening the new stadium the way the old was closed (with a bad loss)? Or is that game forgotten?
Ed V: The game, and the way last season ended, is not forgotten by the Giants at all. The veteran Giants players are still embarrassed by the way last season ended. The offseason, training camp, preseason, everything about the Giants for months now has been about erasing the sting of the way last year ended, starting 5-0 and then missing the playoffs. I would be stunned -- and deeply concerned about the upcoming season -- if you do not see an incredibly fired up Giants team on Sunday. They are opening a new building, a new season and getting another crack at Carolina.
The Panthers better get ready for a brawl. If they can keep from digging themselves an early hole the defense should keep them in it and give the offense time to get something working.
Question 2: In last years game RB Jonathan Stewart ran for 206 yds. What will the Giants defense do differently this time to counter the Panthers running attack?
Ed V: Well, the Giants are a much different defense. They have a new defensive coordinator in Perry Fewell, some new personnel and better health than at any time last season, so we will see what happens. Second-round draft pick Linval Joseph is a 325-pound guy who could develop into a big run stopper in the middle. Tackles Chris Canty and Rocky Bernard are healthy, which they weren't last year. Ditto for defensive end Justin Tuck, who played with one arm last season. Osi Umenyiora seems more committed to run defense, which he was not last season. Keith Bulluck replaces Danny Clark at outside linebacker. The return to health of safety Kenny Phillips is also huge for the Giants. That said, we have to wait and see how it plays out. There was some good, some not so good with the defense in preseason. The Panther running game is a great test.
Both Williams and Stewart will be healthy too. This one will be fun to watch! ...more after the jump...
Question 3: Seems I heard Ahmad Bradshaw will start at RB versus Brandon Jacobs? If so, how is Jacobs taking it and do you agree with the move?
Ed V: Jacobs is not taking it well at all. He is a dour guy who does not like the media much in the best of circumstances, and he's not happy about this development. Do I agree with this move? Heck, yes. Bradshaw is healthier than he has been in a long time -- the guy played on two broken feet and a bad ankle last season. He is faster than Jacobs, more explosive, tougher to tackle (yes, even though he is 65 pounds lighter) and more of a big-play threat every time he touches the ball. That said, Jacobs is still incredibly important to the Giants. In Carolina, you know all about having two terrific backs. We think we have the same in New York, it's just that who is 1 and who is 1a is now different.
Bradshaw worries me more than Jacobs certainly. The Panthers need to smother the run early and force Manning to check off to short passes.
Question 4: What must the Panther defense do first to stop the Giants from putting up a lot of points, stop the run or stop the pass?
Ed V: Well, that's an interesting question. The Giants have talked for months now about getting back to the balanced attack they had in 2007 and 2008, rather than the pass-first attack they were forced to become last season. I would say the Giants are going to do everything they can to establish a running game, especially since I would be concerned about their ability to handle the Carolina pass rush if they can't.
The Panthers better get pressure on Manning on 3rd down or it could be a long day for the Panthers.
Question 5: Do you think Eli Manning and the Giants offense have what it takes to get back to the Super Bowl this year? What will be the key on offense?
Ed V: As I said in the previous answer, balance. I have all the trust in the world in Eli, but much like the Panthers the Giants are a better football team when they can control the clock with their running game and when they can grind out some tough yards. If they have to rely on Manning that isn't going to work. Especially in the Northeast when it gets cold and miserable late in the season a team has to be able to run the ball. That said, I don't think offense really determines this team's fate. I think it rests on the progress of the defense, and the ability of the special teams to at least play neutral with the opposition and not consistently put the Giants at a disadvantage.
[Emphasis above Jaxon] You would think a SB winning QB would inspire more confidence in the fan base. I personally think he's a pretty good QB. I think he can get rattled at times on the field and can become indecisive. But I'd start him over Matt Moore if we had him (did I say that out loud?).
Both teams will try to chew clock so I expect a low scoring affair. I think both running games are going to have a tough time in the first half. The team that makes the fewer errors might pull this one out with a late FG. My prediction is 16-13 Panthers. What's yours?
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Not worried on bit about Bradshaw
He reminds me of a less effective version of Chris Johnson, and if our run D can shut down Johnson then Bradshaw should be a piece of cake.
Big Jacobs would be a better test for some of our smaller DEs and LBs.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The rumors of Big Boy's demise
Are greatly exaggerated.
you’re right about Jacobs, even tho he won’t be starting, he still will be getting plenty of touches, and IMO actually looked better than AB in preseason on the ground. its the pass option that Bradshaw gives them that the coaches love.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
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Great Q & A. Thanks Jaxon.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum
+1, excellent Q & A there Jaxon
I think you make an interesting point regarding the lack of respect Eli gets from the Giants fan base. My impression of Eli is that when provided protection and playing without pressure he is among the NFL’s best QB’s. But conversely, he is one of the worst NFL QB’s when it comes to dealing with pressure..
Funny thing….before he won the Super Bowl, I would hear Giants fans refer to Eli as thje “Fredo” of the NFL…….the bumbling brother that was reluctantly forced into the family business and was an embarrassment to “The Family”
Not sure where Ed's going on this one...
A lot of Giants fans do trust Eli now. I think he’s definitely one of the few QB’s that you can trust if the game came down to wire and we needed him to pull through. He’s clutch in my eyes.
I think that Ed may be stating that if we have to depend on Eli to carry the entire game instead of the Giants establishing the run, it means that we again aren’t able to have the balanced attack we wanted to begin with and will be reminiscent of last year’s debacle of a season.
by Well-Rounded Cube on Sep 10, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't speak for Ed
But I think you’re right. Most of us are very pleased with the QB Eli has become (who wouldn’t want a SB MVP at the helm?). He does still have some detractors, but I know I’m pleased.
If that's how you read
what I said about Eli, that’s not really right. I have all the faith in the world in Eli, it is just that when the Giants offense is one-dimensional they don’t fare as well. They love the physical play, they love the run. Eli’s terrific, but the Giants need plays out of their run game. If you think I’d rather have Matt Moore quarterbacking the Giants, that’s not correct.
by Ed Valentine on Sep 10, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for clarifying Ed...
I wasn’t trying to put words in your mouth.
So how many months have we all been waiting for this game, for the season? I’m working of a section 8
Is this a resume game for John Fox
In other words, is NYG organization considering ditching Coughlin for him after this season? And what is the fans thoughts about Fox?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Giants organization has a lot of
respect for Fox. So if the Giants tank again and Coughlin either retires or “resigns” then Fox will definitely be a top canidate if he is available. There was a lot of talk about us and Cowher but I dont see that happening.
My prediction
Carolina’s defense dominates this year. Fox and JR peacefully part ways. Fox winds up in NY, Meeks takes over in Carolina.
And were generous here in the South, so we’ll even throw in Jeff Davidson for free ;)
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope that you're wrong about Meeks.
I’d prefer Baker if we are staying “in house”. +1 to Davidson.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum
If looking outside maybe.....
Brian Schottenheimer (Jets), or Joe Philbin (Green Bay).
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault. -Jack Tatum
Shoot, we'll throw in a million if they take Davidson off our hands....
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace
We'll personally take up a collection here at CSR :)
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
His NYG salary will cover it and his new Manhattan condo
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, and so do the fans
We had a pretty good defense when he was our coordinator. If both Coughlin and Fox got the axe, I don’t know that the Giants would take him on at HC, but it’s been something of a pipe dream to have Fox back at DC.
If Fox isnt the
Head Coach he isnt going to NY. I would hope that Fox leaves Carolina for better opportunities and well DC is definitely not better. If he leaves because we dont want him, I will be very disappointed.
"The game of life is a lot like football. You have to tackle your problems, block your fears, and score your points when you get the opportunity." - Lewis Grizzard
by ThePanthers! on Sep 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Fewell is a Tampa 2 guy
Is he running one in New York? The best way to attack a Tampa 2 is with a strong running game.
Tampa 2
Our system isn’t quite a Tampa 2 (we don’t have the personnel to fully utilize it), but it’s close. Honestly this question has been asked all off season and there’s no definitive answer on exactly what we’re running. I’d assume we’re sticking with the 4-3 we ran last year, but Fewell has a lot of new players to work with, so it might be tough to nail down where this defense is exactly.
Rollo's right
you may see hints of the T2 come Sunday. therefore expect to see some passes underneath, and in the middle, get completed by you guys. It’s a bend but not break philosophy, and even Terrell Thomas(our starting CB) said this would be the case.
But at the same time, he will be bringing the blitz, and there will hopefully be instances where he has all 4 of our ferocious DEs on the field, probably on long passing situations. But even Fewell has said we’ve seen maybe about 20% of the D this preseason, so we honestly still don’t know what we’re in store for Sunday.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
.......So goes the season?
This will be a bellweather game for the remainder of the season.
If the Panthers come out and dominate or play error-free Panther football and win, I feel this will be a playoff-bound team.
If they come out and struggle with false starts and missed opportunities on offense, then it is going to be another 8-8 year and the last of Foxy.
The first half of a Fox season and the second half
Are 2 VERY different things. This game is no indication of what we’ll be watching 3 months from now.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's the thing about run first offenses
As the weather gets colder, the better they perform.
we almost never come out firing on all cylinders.
barring the 08 season. even then it took a while for the run game to fully get moving
If I were the Giants I'd be more concerned about MLB what who Keith Bulluck too over for at OLB
They have no decent middle linebacker and were hoping to draft Rolando McClain to fill that role but the Raiders selected him first.
I think it’s going to be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG day in NY
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I'll take off my pessimist hat, and agree with you
I think we only lose if our offense is just totally inept. Otherwise I think NY has trouble moving the ball on a Panther fired up Panther D, and a play or 2 by Smitty or DoubleTrouble win this game.
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh I have plenty of concern about our defense
But have been giggly-silly over our defense here lately. So I’m stepping out on a limb for their sake. It’s the least I can do for doubting them all off season.
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
* concern over our OFFENSE Doh!
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt the Giants will be primed for revenge, but if the Panthers can get the early lead ...........
the ghosts from last seasons debacle will appear in the heads of the Giants faithful and things could snowball in a bad way very quickly for Eli & crew. Lots of pressure on the Giants in this game, way more so than the Panthers.
Although the Mara’s and Giants’ fans undoubtedly wanted this game as the home opener, I’d be willing to bet that Coughlin and the Giants players would rather have it in Charlotte away from the pressure of the home fans. The first game of the season is such a wildcard….
I’m going with the Panthers 28-16.
That's a lot of points for an offense that has yet to score a single TD!
Are you assuming the return of Stewart and Smitty produces 4 TDs?
I hope you’re right, but I’ll go with something closer to 13-9. A lot of punting and field goals, with only 1 TD by DeAngelo.
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it is totally possible
Running game in full force, we did it last year. Most of the pieces remain, and this time we will have a healthy D-Lo.
We will be using a different FB and a different #2 WR. Our OL will actually be the exact same that it was last year since Otah is out. Not underestimating the impact a new FB can have on the game, but Fiametta has been impressive so far.
If we win, I think we see 3 TDs from Double Trouble.
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this is not the Giants of last year tho
i think that’s what your missing. there’s a lot of turnover here, especially in defensive philosophy. if you think it’s going to be a replay of last year, i’d say your wrong. not saying you still dont win, but this team is not going to lay down like the beaten down team you saw last season.
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I think you guys will be fired up!
And that has me concerned. We have a lot of rookies that might be nervous or still figuring things out. Meanwhile you guys are licking your chops looking for revenge. And no one on that team wan’t to lay an egg in the new stadium.
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Come on man! There you go again playing the reality card on me! The season's now started which means I have throw any sense of reality out the window.
Actually seriously, I’m thinking that Giants’ mistakes will lead to points. I also think there’s an opportunity to score both defensively and on special teams (Giants are notoriously poor on kick coverage). I’m thinking (or perhaps hoping ) the Panthers get a big lead and the Giants get some points in garbage time to make the game look closer than it was.
Ok I can buy into a potential defensive TD
But STs are still a little too shaky for me
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That ST TD could just as likely be an Armanti punt fumble going the other way
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am?
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ST = Special Teams
but honestly I thought they were talking about you when I saw it.
"The game of life is a lot like football. You have to tackle your problems, block your fears, and score your points when you get the opportunity." - Lewis Grizzard
by ThePanthers! on Sep 10, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
no i meant southtunnel
whenever i see him back there shagging punts for us, i start to worry.
(rimshot!)
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
Lol, If you saw me there returning punts
You’d be seeing a guy running the opposite direction, screaming like a school girl for his life.
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by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be waving it as soon as I walked on the field!
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Personally, this team has to prove to me that its offense can actually score before I believe they can beat a non crappy team. I regretfully must pick the Giants.
I’m in the same boat. I know this team is better than most people (outside of here) believe. But rookie mistakes and inexperience will take their toll early in the year. It should be better as we get further into the season.
/side note: I’m in a pay pick’em league and have to take who I believe is going to win, not necessarily who I want to win. Damn it, I’m going for the 3-peat this year.
This is a fair prediction.
A lot of us fans have overlooked that rookies do make mistakes, especially early in the year. However, most rookies will show up in the receiving corps and ST.
by Deuceklinco on Sep 11, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
It's official, I'm a homer
because, no matter who we play, I just can’t pick the opposite team to win. It’s football, there’s no room for reality. You cheer for you team, hope they stomp everyone, if you lose, just sulk until next week, when you pick your team to win the next one. It’s why we are fans. fan is short for fanatic…I’m a panther fanatic, and I’ll defend them relentlessly, even through an 0-16 record.
Cheering for them is different than being realistic
Anybody can talk trash about their team on Sun. But reality is if you had to put serious money on it.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 10, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Giants fan here
Thought I’d come over and wish you guys well. And as a guy from North Jersey living in the Carolinas (Myrtle Beach), I really had to laugh at Jaxon’s comment, “Think of Bubba with a slow southern drawl asking the questions and then a thick NY accent answering the questions, think Christopher Walken in Joe Dirt! It’s a must!” I know that feeling oh so well. lol
You guys have to read the comment thread over on the Giants site
So someone starts bashing this blogs name and I had to chime in…
Dear God
Not only were the jokes lame, but reading those comments patting each other on the back for their lack of creativity was like seeing carrot top wrestle with Paulie Shore to determine who the biggest loser is.
Makes me thankful for the community we have at CSR who can talk trash about football, not about blog names
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I'm wondering if anyone there has actually heard Ted Nugent's song
It would probably sound rather silly if you’ve never listened to (or even heard of) Cat Scratch Fever.
I’m not going over there. I read a few comments over at CO this morning, so my quota for nonsense has already been met for the day.
Eh, what do you expect? It is a new york fan base after all.
I just hope we don’t have a massive let down against this team. Not only will it be a bad way to start the season, but all you will hear about in the news all week is how the iants opened their new bs stadium by getting revenge on the Panthers. I really don’t want to have to endure that for a whole damn week…
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Amen
to everything you just said… i work with a bunch of NY fans…it would be a hellish week to say the least!
I'm effin married to one...If we lose, I'll need one bullet, and I'm not sure
whether it will be me or her.
Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.
Not going to go read what they wrote, but...
they were making fun of Cat Scratch Reader? Isn’t their blog named Big Blue View? Sounds like a gay porn theater in Greenich Village.
Knee jerk reaction - adj. 1. an immediate unthinking emotional reaction produced by an event or statement to which the reacting person is highly sensitive. 2. a facilitator of long threads on Cat Scratch Reader and similar blogs.
But it was.
"The game of life is a lot like football. You have to tackle your problems, block your fears, and score your points when you get the opportunity." - Lewis Grizzard
by ThePanthers! on Sep 10, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants in over their respective heads...
If our defense dosent have a major meltdown,I see no way the Giants win this game,we simply have way more talent(I too would rather be starting Eli) but thats where the cat stops.The Panther running game will open up the passing game expect 100 yards recieving for our TE’s another 100 for Stevie Wonder,I really will be suprised if we don’t control both lines of scrimmage..double trouble 225…4-5 Sacks. This will be a huge day in both franchises history…Panthers 27-10…or bigger

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