Position by Position Analysis

by stevesmith on Aug 29, 2010 7:22 PM EDT

Sort of like they do in the Roar:

Quarterback:

We have two quality guys in Moore, Clausen, another has a great arm and potential to be a starter, Cantwell, and then Pike is unproven. Now given that Pike has thrown one ball all preseason, his value to our team is 0 out of 100. Yes he has good size and did well at college level, but he needs experience, and he doesn't know the speed of the NFL.

I say we end up cutting Pike, pending he doesn't dazzle vs. Steelers... however, if Cantwell doesn't dazzle vs Steelers I say we cut him as well. (Why, you may ask)... last time I checked we have Armanti Edwards.

Try to stash Cantwell on the PS

.. and if he does bad vs Steelers not as many teams will jump for him.

I think that this team needs an offensive leader. We have a bunch of stars with leadership, but no one to look up to. Smith is making his way up the ladder. The last thing we need, since we're so young, is a QB Controversy. However, I think Clausen can get it done in the NFL.

If Moore struggles the first or second game I expect Clausen to try to take over. As long as we have the best QB on the field, I could care less.

My QB's are:

1) Moore(Opening Day Starter)

2)Clausen

3) Cantwell(PS) or Emergency- Edwards

Running Back:

After Mike Goodson's great performance last night, I questioned why do we need Tyrell Sutton. But I answered with a good STeamer. I think Sutton is going to be on the bubble. He's gonna get a bunch of carries Thursday, and its his job to lose.

Goodson's a hot head, which is ok, as long as he doesn't get any penalties; he was punching guy on the ground, and then the next play he takes it to the outside for 30 yards.

Stewart and Williams are gonna beast cause they're amazing. Fiametta, i don't think hes that great, but thats who we have.

Wide Reciever:

Armanti Edwards - 4.4

David Gettis 4.5

Brandon Lafell- 4.55

Trent Guy -4.5

We're going young and fast, so who cares if we have lots of WR's. Steve Smith is monster. Lafell is inconsistent, but he's no Keary Colbert. Jarrett, seems to be improving, but its been 5 years already.. Moore has taken off with Smith as mentor, has good hands. Gettis- I see him being our inactive WR.{{{{{scratch that, i think we put him on the practice squad, open up a spot for Trent Guy}}}}. don't think we'll see him opening day. Charly Martin- great STer, i've been watching him, and he's been impressive tackling with some force. Wallace Wright- i think his playing time is an excuse for our only FA signing. Trent Guy- should be our Kick Returner. he had trouble returning punts in beginning. Dexter jackson makes me mad, i thought we had a steal when we got him

WR- Smith, Jarrett, LaFell, Edwards, Moore, Martin(ST), Gettis(Inactive), Guy(KR)

TE- You know the drill, King should be starter, Rosario should be starter, Barnidge could be the starter.

King, Rosario, Barnidge.

OL- Great Pass Protection last night, compared to Jets.. struggled running the ball, though.. got to fix that. idk if Otah will be back by opening day

Gross, Wharton, Kalil, Berneadu, Schwartz, Robinson, Williams, Otah(PUP)

DL- TALENT TALENT TALENT.. WE lead league in sacks and defense.. good job I think we start Brown and Brayton but have Johnson and Hardy substiute in during game with Moore as backup. Defensive Tackle- wise, they're all good, but who do we cut???

Brayton, Tyler, Leonard, Brown, Johnson, Hardy, Landri, Johnson, Moore

LB- Thomas Davis isnt on IR yet.. if we do good, he could come back, but ive been impressed with Connor.. i think he'll take over for Anderson if he comes back.. Jamar Williams came back and had a decent night.. didnt see as much as i wanted to from Norwood but hes a keeper

Anderson, Connor, Beason, Williams, Norwood, Senn, Davis (PUP)

DB- Passing game is impressive despite no new additions, i feel comfortable when we drop back in zone. 8th in league on 3rd down conversions.

Gamble, Marshall, Munnerlyn, Witherspoon, Wilson(bubble), McClain, Stanford(PS)

Martin, Godfrey, Hudson, Pugh

ST- Kasay missed a FG.. Baker hit 75 Yards!!, Carter isn't consistent or deep enough but i don't want to mess those guys up.

Kasay, Baker, Carter, Jansen?

Im at 54 without counting Davis or Otah, and only two healthy OL backups.. who else to cut?

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I hope Cantwell has a huge game against the Steelers

I’m still hoping we can flip him for a draft pick

Fourth and inches is the distance between obscurity and immortality.

by Smitty89 on Aug 29, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions

I hope so too but I don’t want Him or Pike to do well, and them just cut them, and get nothing.

by NinjaRabbi on Aug 29, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Not sure I can agree with the Goodson/Sutton assessment..

One good pre-season game for Goodson isn’t enough to convince me he’s better than Sutton, who has had many good regular season games and can assist at multiple positions. I’m still far, far away from moving Goodson to my #3.

Of course, don’t get me wrong, with that speed I’d love to see him finally “get it” but I’m not convinced yet.

Overall Panthers Draft Grade: A

by D-Ranged1 on Aug 29, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions

+1, Agreed

Don’t like the Goodson/Sutton assesment also. To me, Tyrell Sutton proved last year that he is a serviceable back averaging 5YPC in the few carries he received. In my opinion, Sutton doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. Although Goodson may have overshadowed Sutton last night with his kick return for TD, Sutton shined with his reception that he turned into a 20 yd gain.

Last year, we kept 4 backs (Williams, Stewart, Sutton, Goodson) and I don’t expect that to change, nor the order because I think Sutton is the better all around back whereas Goodson is more of the scatback RB.

Also dislike the Kenny Moore assessment. Although I see many similarities with him and his mentor Smitty, I can’t see how he has “good hands.” Are we watching the same games?

by jkp1516 on Aug 29, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't forget that FF on the kickoff...

Sutton’s got a spot, easy. We can keep 4 RBs I think and I believe Sutton and Goodson’s done the work to deserve those spots.

by The Kackalack Kid on Aug 30, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

You're right. Have to keep those 4, plus Fiammetta.

Josh Vaughn showed little, reminding me of Eric Shelton. I doubt he’ll make the final cut. We need too many other deserving players, at WR, and on the defensive side of the ball.

by bigdavis on Aug 30, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Good point

I was thinking though.. when Sutton was stinking up saturday, and goodson had a couple long runs…

Sutton did great for us last year.. but I think Goodson has more potential and only way for him to reach potential is for him to play. I think Goodson is our 3rd and long back.. with sutton being a backup and KR.

Also Remember Goodson returned the ball to the 2!! THE 2!!!

by stevesmith on Aug 30, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions

Both backs can catch.

Sutton is less likely to fumble or be TFLed, but he doesn’t have breakaway speed. Both can block, the difference is Sutton is relentless inside, like Nick Goings, and Goodson is more like Reggie Bush, his skills are maximized in space. Both will be very good if, God forbid, one of our top backs goes down.

Ready for 2010 football already!!!

by Flowing Willow on Aug 30, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions

When was Sutton "stinking up" Saturday?

Sure he got stuffed for little gain on 3 rushes, but who didn’t? He looked very good on the 20 yd screen pass he ran, and he forced a fumble with a big hit on a punt coverage in the 2nd quarter, turning the ball back to us.

by bigdavis on Aug 30, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Matt Moore, on pressure

http://www.mattmooreqb.com/2010/09/01/an-interesting-preseason

_"A lot of people have wondered if I feel pressure to keep the starting job. I don’t. There are always thoughts and feelings in your mind, but I don’t feel that pressure. You can’t play the game that way, you have to be as upbeat and positive as you can. You definitely know that there are going to be growing pains along the way, and you know you have to minimize them, put them aside and win ballgames.

There’s little room in this game to feel pressure. I like to think that I don’t feel it at all."_

by bigdavis on Sep 1, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions