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Panthers Special Teams Rewind

We've covered both the offense and defense in depth in the Jets loss. I thought I would do the same for special teams. They were after all big contributors to the loss. Let me say first we have no problem with the kicking game. Both our FG kicker (Kasay) and punter (Baker) are kicking well. The liability is with the return and coverage units. So I reviewed each play and have the detail after the jump. First I'll give you the summary and my thoughts on the analysis:

Unit Good Play Bad Play Push
KO Coverage 2 0 0
KO Return 1 2 1
PR Coverage 4 1 3
PR Return 2 4 3
Total 9 7 7

Analysis:

  • The Panthers coverage units were not bad outside of the one long punt return.
  • Captain Munnerlyn was easily the best PR on the day
  • Mike Goodson doesn't show the ability to read blocks well enough yet to be an effective KR
  • Take away the four times the Panthers put the ball on the ground during PRs and you have a only 3 bad plays in 23 total

Star-divide

This came out better than I expected and shows our ST's return game is what really needs improvement and the other aspects are doing fairly well. We look to be getting good coverage on punts, a big thanks to Jason Baker. KOS Todd Carter booted both his KO into the end zone. Huge kicks for him as he has struggled at times in camp. Though Captain Munnerlyn may never lead the NFL in punt returns he seems the most trustworthy back there and he has the guts for the job.

There's the detail on how I rated each play. It's nothing fancy so I'm sure someone will disagree with what I called good versus push versus bad. No problem if you do, give me your take and I might agree.

Detail by kick or return (23):

Opening Kick Off Return - At first I thought Goodson made a bad decision to cut outside of his closest blocker (#36). An inside move looked open but then I see why he hesitated. Jets #30 was knifing in from the outside and had a clear shot since Panthers #61 whiffed on him. #33 pushed him out at the 15. (Bad)

1st PR Edwards - You can't fault Pugh for touching the ball, he was set up where he needed to be. Edwards should have charged the ball and covered it up. (Bad)

2nd KO Return - Goodson kneels for a TB (Push)

2nd PR Edwards - Muffs it badly (Bad)

3rd KO McClain - Fielded at the fifteen McClain returns it 16 yds to the 31. (Good)

1st PR Coverage - Baker kicks it into the end zone, TB (Push)

2nd PR Coverage - Baker boots it 60 yds and the Jets return it 5 yds to the 50 (Good)

3rd PR Munnerlyn - Muffs it out of bounds at the 12 (Bad)

3rd PR Coverage - Taken by Jets 15 Taylor at Jets 25, Panthers get 3 players down quick, middle guy Sutton trips him up after 10 yds. (Push)

4th PR Munnerlyn - Captain fields it at the 15 takes 2 steps right then cuts straight up past the first man; he then stiff arms the second would be tackler and beats a 3rd guy to the corner but gets pushed out for a 10 yd punt return. (Good)

4th PR Coverage - Fielded at 18 Panther with dreads runs past the ball carrier, who sprints right for a nice game, but a penalty on the Jets negates it (Good)

5th PR Munnerlyn - Field at 19 cuts right and takes it up to the 40 where he stops, jukes around a pile of guys and bulls his way for an additional 3 yards (LaFell needs to watch that). Total was 24 yds (Good)

2nd Half

1st KO Coverage - Smoothie boots it into the end zone deep for a TB (Sweet) (Good)

2nd KO coverage - Smoothie boots another deep into the end zone, TB

5th PR Coverage - Fair catch called, TB (Good)

6th PR Moore - Falls down after fielding the pun at the 40, makes a nice move to avoid the first tackler but after 12 yds takes a shot on the ball and fumbles, Jets recover. (Bad)

3rd KO Return Goodson - From 2 yds deep goes straight to 10 then cuts right, gets hit and turned around, tries to go the other way only to get tackled at the 4 yd line (Bad)

5th PR Coverage - Jets McKnight fields at 24 and slices up the right side across 50 the cuts left for 67 yds until dragged down at  9 yd line. Rosario whiffed, 40 over pursued and Ivy had his tackle broken. 83 makes tackle. (bad)

6th PR Coverage - Field at Panther 43, cuts left but cut down by 82 & 83 for a 1 yd gain (Good)

7th PR Witherspoon - Fair catch (Push)

7th PR Coverage - Fielded at 18, 15 and 83 down first but over pursue to the outside and allow run up middle for 12 yds. Eventually tackled by Hudson (Push)

8th PR - Out of bounds (Push)

9th PR - TB (Push)

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Take away the four times the Panthers put the ball on the ground

“Other than that, how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln?”

by panthersnbraves on Aug 27, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

indeed.

I think Munnerlynn will get the job in the regular season, unless Brian Witherspoon impresses the last two games. I still want Armanti to get back out there, if for nothing more than to exorcise his demons.

Ready for 2010 football already!!!

by Flowing Willow on Aug 27, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put on my happy face to type that!

It’s like saying…“Other than the 5 TD’s you have up, the defense had a good day!”

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by Jaxon on Aug 27, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gave up

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by Jaxon on Aug 27, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blah Blah Armanti Defense Blah

Blah Blah he’s a project Blah Blah transition to WR/PR Blah Blah will take time to adjust Blah Blah take it easy on him Blah Blah.

BLAH!!!!

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by Tater596 on Aug 27, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry I couldnt quite understand

all I heard was Blah Blah.

"The game of life is a lot like football. You have to tackle your problems, block your fears, and score your points when you get the opportunity." - Lewis Grizzard

by ThePanthers! on Aug 27, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Ke$ha

Nice try though… I guess ; )

by aceofsween on Aug 27, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually... I think Jaxon wins

IMP not knowing how to spell Ke$ha puts you ahead of the game : )

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by James Dator on Aug 27, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

y r grown men talkin bout kesha?….

by mangoes52 on Aug 27, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are you talking about?

OH! Do you mean Ke$ha?

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by James Dator on Aug 28, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m 25… It’s perfectly acceptable for me to know who a pop icon is at my age…

by aceofsween on Aug 28, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'd call her an "icon" ...

…“joke” would be more appropriate. Any monkey with a microphone can sit there and go “blah, blah, blah”

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by BW Smith on Aug 28, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone's a critic

She’s not the most talented singer/songwriter, but her music is catchy if nothing else.

by aceofsween on Aug 28, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 to that

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by BW Smith on Aug 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No need to worry about our return game

If these guys continue to muff it up then they’ll put someone safe, like Sutton back there.

The sad part is it doesn’t look like we’ll be anywhere close to being as explosive as we had hoped. But Fox is NOT going to have somebody back there dropping multiple punts per game, or running backwards trying to make a play, like they’re still in high school.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 27, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we should also cut Kenny Moore a break

That fumble he got hit pretty friggin hard! He made a nice run just prior. Plus he’s a quick study… I think he’ll hold onto it next time. I think they should give him the first go at it tomorrow.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 27, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill

OH!

by STEVEN 785 on Aug 28, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Armanti's a project, but Moore isn't even allowed one drop in the Preseason?

This is what Preseason is for. If it happens more than once * cough Armanti * then yank him. But thus far, Moore has shown more promise as a PR and WR than anyone else.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The point is it shouldn’t matter who drops it. You shouldn’t drop it. Ever. Period.

by aceofsween on Aug 28, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. But the question is what do you do when someone does?

I’ve seen Smitty drop punts in the past. But the larger body of work clearly trumps that.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really want to see what Trent Guy can bring to the return game.

I heard some good things in early pre-season about this player returning punts and hope it’s true. It can’t be to hard to get a shot a punt return for the Panthers now!
1) Legally pass the vision test to drive a car… check!
2) Catch the ball without a fumble … check!
3) Have amazing speed… check!

by Jp_here on Aug 27, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

If God came down on Christmas Day
I know exactly what He'd say
He'd say "Oi!" to the punks
and "Oi!" to the skins
but "Oi!" to the world and everybody wins.

-The Vandals

by Oi2dwrld on Aug 28, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish to see Dexter Jackson as a return man, Edwards doing a few kickoffs, and Witherspoon returning punts. Somebody call John Fox for me.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Aug 28, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Trent Guy is an interesting option too

He’s got the speed

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

So people keep saying.

He ran a 4.5-4.6 though, and I’ve seen youtube tape and it looks to back up that time. He doesn’t have elite speed like some of those other options. I’m not saying he can’t be a good return man. A 4.5 is still fast, and returning kicks and punts isn’t all about speed, but I don’t think we should build him up to be something big and then be disappointed. I don’t think Trent Guy needs all the pressure some of that hype is putting him under. I’m not sure where that rumor about his wonderful speed started, but it’s all over the media every time his name comes up. I still think he has good hands. I’d like to see him more in a slot receiving role.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Aug 28, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he's under enough pressure just to make the team

I’m sure he’d welcome pressure to perform over not having a job in a couple weeks. And if not for special teams, I don’t see how he could make the team. But I agree with you that speed can only only get him so far as a return man. I’m just crossing my fingers that one of these guys can do it.

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by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trent is Very fast !

silver82blade Those times that you've SEEN on the internet on Trent are wrong , he runs a 4.3 easy and there's no way you can determine from the video you seen how fast he runs the 40 . I've seen him first hand on the track and in football and trust me he way faster than what you THINK . I've seen reports from training camp saying they think he's the fastest player on the team , which means everyone else is running under a 4.5 if what you are saying is true . Go see him in person and you'll see the difference . And I've seen the video you're talking about too , and if he was running 4.5 speed everyone else was slow as h($ .

by Jago1 on Sep 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt the Panthers pick up Wright as a return man?

I have heard he could compete for a receiver spot, but he was picked up for special teams, but i havent heard his name in anything.

by MrBernz on Aug 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Naw.

They got him for his special teams coverage, not for returns. He’s supposed to be able to run down return men and tackle them, like Karl Hankton used to do.

stuff 'bout stuff.

by silver82blade on Aug 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to regret picking Armanti

We might have to give up a solid STs guy with WR potential just to keep Edwards on the roster doing nothing, and for who knows how long.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little shortsighted for that line of thinking ST

I know what you’re saying… but lets give it until the round of cuts before we start worrying about whose spot he’s taking.

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by James Dator on Aug 28, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say I've given up on him

Just that it will hurt more to cut somebody else in light of his poor performance. Say for example Dexter Jackson and/or Trent Guy show some flashes tonight. Well Wright is our gunner. We are already entitled to keep LaFell and Edwards this season despite performance. Kenny Moore and Jarrett have been our most productive receivers.

Include Smitty that’s 8 receivers. We most likely will cut at least 2 right? I’m not sure we can hide too many of these guys on the PS. So unless Guy and Jackson suck, then we’ll likely be giving up a guy or two in favor of one that has only shown that he has no clue how to play his positions.

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by southtunnel on Aug 28, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know if there will be any TV for this? Does the Sunday Ticket show preseason games?

by TylerA7707 on Aug 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Check out

Fox network if you are local. Sunday ticket might show it, but I’m not sure. Online…try: http://atdhe.net/index.html

by Scrantsj on Aug 28, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

sunday ticket does not

but you can catch the replay on nfl network

I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill

OH!

by STEVEN 785 on Aug 29, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trent is very fast !

silver82blade Those times that you SEEN on the internet are wrong Trent runsa 4.3 easily , I know I've seen him first hand , on the track and on the football field . And there's no way you can determine how fast he runs from a video . I've saw reports from training camp saying he's the fastest person on the team , so if what you are saying is true everyone else is slower than a 4.5 . I saw the video you're talking about too and if he runs a 4.5 everyone else is slow as h#$ .

by Jago1 on Sep 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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