How much can we really expect from Brandon LaFell and Armanti Edwards in 2010?
As NFL fans around the country slowly kick the dust off their boots and venture out of this desert called the NFL offseason training camps around the country are starting, or have just started. With Panthers' camp kicking off on Thursday there are numerous questions surrounding the team that we have discussed ad nauseum we're reaching the point where the rubber hits to road and players need to go out there and perform.
Nowhere is this more prevalent that with the revamped wide receiver position. As it stands there is no way to know who will be standing opposite Steve Smith come week one of the regular season. The organization was well aware of their impending crisis at the WR position after selecting three wide receivers in the 2010 draft. Out of these three players both Brandon LaFell and Armanti Edwards will be looked at to be the future of the Panthers' passing attack. Without looking into the far future, let's go back one year to look at 2nd and 3rd round receivers from the 2009 draft and see if there's any way to predict how much LaFell and Edwards can add to the Panthers' 2010 season.
There were 9 receivers taken in rounds 2 and 3 in last year's draft:
- Mohamad Massaquoi
These 9 receivers combined to play in 64 games, 18 of which were starts. They also combined for 1,729 yards and 9 touchdowns.
On the very most basic level we can see that 2nd and 3rd round receivers didn't contribute a lot in the 2009 season; in fact, over 75% of the group's receiving yards was due to two players Mohamad Massaquoi and Mike Wallace who combined for 1,380 yards. The former started 11 games for the Cleveland Browns in 2009, and the latter started 4 games for the Steelers.
This should reassure Panthers' fans because it shows us that if given time to play these 2nd and 3rd round rookie receivers can contribute effectively in their first year. One statement I kept hearing what that we should expect little from Armanti Edwards due to his size, as it would likely take longer for him to develop into and NFL receiver. Granted he's a converted quarterback, but his size will not play into his development. All nine of the 2009 2nd and 3rd round rookies could be considered Brandon LaFell sized (Over 6"2, over 210 lbs) and Armanti Edwards sized (Less than 6"2, less than 210 lbs). Here's how the two groups stacked up:
LaFell Group (Robiskie, Massaquoi, Barden, Turner)
32 games, 12 starts- 746 yards, 3 TD
Average: 23.3 yards per game
Edwards Group (Williams, Tate, Wallace, Butler, Iglesias)
31 games, 6 starts- 983 yards, 6 TD
Average: 31.7 yards per game
Granted, much of the Edwards group production was due to Mike Wallace, but it does show a curious comparison where smaller receivers flourish slightly more than larger ones in their rookie season, even when starting less time. Much of this can be attributed to their role in the offense. Many of these smaller players are utilized out of the slot, much like Edwards figures to work in the offense.
Ultimately, there's no way to know for sure how our two receivers will figure into the offense in 2010, but with promising examples like Massaquoi and Wallace on both sides of the size spectrum it should be interesting to see how it all pans out.
So, what do you think LaFell and Edwards' stats will look like at season's end?
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Good post, interesting angle for comparison
The biggest question mark is in your one statement “given time to play”. We all know historically Fox is conservative on offense, but it’s encouraging that they dedicated days of practice to 3 and 4 WR sets. I’m hoping they finally move the offense forward and run more multiple receiver/one back sets this year. If they do, both guys will have a significant role.
If your prediction of Jarrett getting cut before week 1 is accurate, LaFell will be starting week 1. He’s in a very similar situation to Massaquoi. Once Braylon Edwards was traded, Massaquoi started the next week and was basically the WR1 for the Brownies. LaFell isn’t going to get more targets than Smitty, but he’ll get Moose like targets for sure. I personally don’t think Jarrett is gone and will get the start, but as #3 on the depth chart, LaFell will get plenty of action this year, either replacing Jarrett on plays, or on the outside when Jarrett moves to the slot on 3 WR sets.
Typically the Edwards group sized guys are slated to be slot receivers and can have an impact. Just look at Eddie Royal, I mean damn, 91 catches as a rookie in 2008 from the slot. AE is way more athletic than Royal, its just will be is he ready and/or utilized this year.
It’s a better comparison to look at AE to Royal imo, than AE to Mike Wallace. Even though AE is very fast and has the wiggle, Wallace runs in the 4.28 range. That’s elite level speed, one of the top 5 fastest players in the entire NFL. He had 40+ yard catches in 6 games. Phenomenal for a rookie.
Bottom line, both will see a good amount of snaps this year with LaFell getting more and having the better stats line, imho.
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I think
Mike Wallace is somewhat unique given his system and QB. The Steelers QB is notorious for holding on to the ball for extended time frames. This breaks down a pass D and when he catches the ball he’s often on the run in a broken play. Not a slight to him, but it is similar to the designed busted plays of a Jeff Garcia led “West Coast” offense in SF and Tampa…
by adamwanderer on Jul 27, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
In my post from a week ago
the voting consensus seemed to give the edge to Edwards, but your early polling seems to show LaFell. I think if you exclude diehard App State fans, no one seems to have a strong opinion about which will have a better rookie season.
wow... sorry bmoyer
I was on vacation and missed your post!
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by James Dator on Jul 27, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Just like to point out...
I voted for LaFell having more of an impact.
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by silver82blade on Jul 27, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Momma loves all her children the same
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LaFell
Simply because we know what exactly he’s gonna be doing in our offense. And he may win the #2 spot.
Armanti is the wild card. Give him 3-4 years and I can see him leading the team in recieving. But not this year.
+1 for Matt Moore
James make a good point though about the ease of their initial roles
Learning from the slot often is probably going to give Edwards a slight advantage in the learning curve. And from there if he can make a couple people miss then a lot of highlights and buzz will be surrounding him.
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Edwards
Because I think Lafell starts the season behind Jarrett. Edwards has to continue showing his unique abilities in camp (and for God’s sake, if Smitty asks you to carry his pads, do it). Fox/Davidson will have no choice but recognize his potential from the slot. I’m not a die hard App St. fan, but I’ve seen enough to know that Edwards with the ball in space = mucho YAC.
Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.
Good thoughts...
But I disagree. I think LaFell will give us more THIS SEASON. That being said…
I’ve seen enough to know that Edwards with the ball in space = mucho YAC
I totally agree with you that in the long run Edwards is going to be a receiving machine.
if Smitty asks you to carry his pads, do it
I’m assuming this is reference to Dez Bryant? Which, by the way, if he’s going to be that much of diva with a head too big to fit his helmet, he belongs on the Cowboys. It seems like he’s from the same mold as another arrogant diva from the Cowboys, Michael Irvin.
by The Duke Dude on Jul 27, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like what Dez did. He’s fighting for Roy Williams’ job. And after this season Williams is gonna be carrying his pads to the overrated & unemployed line.
+1 for Matt Moore
Dez is a perfect fit for Dallas
Here’s what else we can expect from Dez in the future:
- When they lose a game it won’t be his fault, they should have gotten him the ball more
- He won’t go for that ‘rah-rah’ shit when a team leader tries to get him motivated
- He will shrug off every drop…hey even a superstar drops one every now and then
- Expect at least one sideline argument with a coach in 2010
I actually had a comment..
And then your avatar caught my attention and I forgot what it was…
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re: pads
If you don’t, 89 is likely to turn you over his knee…
by panthersnbraves on Jul 27, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Enforcement of rules and regulations does include corporal punishment.
Wasn’t that something from Dez Bryant, though? I hope the veteran retribution is swift and visible.
Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.
He has to carry Smitty's pads...
He’d be a real dick if he didn’t, it is pretty hard to carry pads with a broken with a broken arm :(
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the two brokens is accurate...
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by BW Smith on Jul 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Chuckle
I thought you did that because Smitty broke and broke his same arm.
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Edwards could also carve a niche on special teams also
If returns a few (fingers crossed) and makes some noise on STs, then that will likely buy him more time on the field. But of course the same can be said for LaFell’s run blocking.
I really don’t like having to rely so much on rookies… But man it’s going to be fun watching these 2 go after it.
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I don't think the initial argument is reassuring
Instead of “given time to play these 2nd and 3rd round rookie receivers can contribute effectively” … It shows that given time they have only a 22% chance of contributing effectively in their 1st year, because only 2 players out of 9 did so.
As far as height, considering our star WR’s size, and the lot of failed big receivers we’ve been through, I’d say we need not worry about that. Armanti is this years Mike Goodsen for me. And I mean that in a good way… In that I’m most excited to see what electric moves he makes in the Pre-season. I just hope the staff finds a way to use him. I’m doubtful about that.
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Does Edwards return kicks/punts?
If not, I don’t know that he gets a jersey on Sundays barring injury. Even if Jarrett gets cut, would imagine (say) Smith, LaFell, and Kenneth Moore as the 1-3 receivers plus Wallace Wright active as a gunner playing some WR as needed. Doubt that you’d want Smith, Edwards, and Moore as none of them is bigger than 5’11". Also doubt that Smith, Edwards, and LaFell is the answer because that’s two rookies among your top three receivers, and receiver is a position with something of a learning curve.
Think this is probably pretty much a red-shirt year for Edwards barring a couple of injuries at WR. LaFell will get some playing time though.

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