Panthers Offseason Position Review: Linebacker
Allow me to start by saying: Please excuse the lack of in-depth analysis in this post. I've been moving into a new house and trying to get everything situated with that, and haven't had the time that I would like to dedicate to research for writing this post. But, since I promised Jaxon I would do this article, and I wanted to get it written before training camp started, I sacrificed some statistics and went with "my thoughts" on the linebackers. Again, I apologize if this post isn't statistically satisfying enough for you as you read, and all I can ask is that you forgive me if you feel that I lack any statistical evidence in the article.
More after the jump...
Panthers LBs currently on roster*
* - According to the Panthers' official website
** - Injured
Once again, the Panthers will have to deal with the loss of one of the key components to the defense now that WLB Thomas Davis is out with a second ACL injury (if you remember, Davis tore his ACL midway through last season, putting him on IR and causing the Panthers to adjust on the fly to playing without one of the leaders on defense).
With Davis' absence, there will be an intense competition for two LB spots going into camp, with Jon Beason set to command one of the three spots, but there should be a great camp battle between four guys for those final two spots in the LB Corps; and James Anderson, Dan Connor, Jamar Williams, and Eric Norwood appear to be the quartet who will compete for the final two LB spots.
As always, there are the typical "camp bodies" who will only be around for the next few weeks. Guys such as Quinton Culberson, Sean Ware, and Brett Warren will probably get an early release, and Jordan Senn could compete for a ST spot, but will probably be cut in the final roster trim at the end of the preseason.
Obviously Jon Beason is going to make the roster, and will be in the starting lineup. The Pro-Bowl linebacker is the team captain on defense and is the team's leading tackler for the past two seasons. So, unless he gets run over by a bus, he's going to be on the field every Sunday wreaking havoc on opposing offenses.
The two losers of the competition for the final two starting spots will most likely fill backup roles, and will probably be joined on the bench by Mortty Ivy, who should also see some time on special teams, unless one of the "camp bodies" makes an impression during the preseason.
Two guys that I would keep an eye on during camp and preseason are Eric Norwood and Jamar Williams. I'm curious to see how the rookie 4th round draft pick (Norwood) adjusts to the NFL, and I'm also anxious to see how the former Bears LB (Williams) adjusts to his new team since coming to Carolina in the Chris Harris trade that devastated a lot of fans (especially here at CSR).
I think Norwood has a chance to be one of the big impact players on defense this year, especially if he is used properly and allowed to rush the passer, something he excelled at while in the SEC at South Carolina. The former Gamecock holds the school record for sacks, and he should be able to bring his sacking ability to Charlotte and make opposing offensive coordinators have to account for his ability to get to the quarterback, which should free up other defenders to make plays.
If I had to predict who will make the starting lineup (which I do, after all this is a LB breakdown), I would say that the three starters will be Beason, Anderson, and Williams. I think that Williams will earn the final starting spot because from my understanding he is one of those guys who would have been a starter on just about any other team in the league, but was just unfortunate to be in the same LB corps as Lance Briggs. I don't think the front office would have traded Harris for Williams if they didn't feel that Williams couldn't contribute to the Panthers this season, and I think that we will all be saying that the Panthers made a great decision to steal Williams away from Chicago (kinda like we did after Harris became the Hitman when we stole him from the Bears for a draft pick a few years ago).
In the previous position breakdowns, percentage values have been assigned to each player for chance to start and chance to make the roster. Because there are so many players at the LB position heading into camp, and because many players fit into the same categories, I'm going to break the percentages down a little differently.
100% chance to make roster:
Jon Beason
James Anderson
Jamar Williams
Eric Norwood
Dan Connor
90% chance to make roster:
Mortty Ivy
Jordan Senn
10% chance to make roster:
Quinton Culberson
Sean Ware
Brett Warren
100% chance to start:
Jon Beason
95% chance to start:
James Anderson*
60% chance to start:
Jamar Williams
40% chance to start:
Dan Connor
Eric Norwood
* - I believe that Anderson is all but guaranteed to fill up one of the two remaining spots, and I think that it's essentially a competition for the final spot vacated by Thomas Davis. I think that Williams is the leader for the final starting spot, but don't count out Norwood and Connor who should come into camp hungry for a chance to shine.
What are your thoughts on the linebacker position? Who do you think will join Beason in the starting lineup, and who do you think will fill out the bench? Do you think any of the "camp bodies" have a chance to make the roster? If so – which ones? Who do you think will make the biggest impact during camp? Who do you think will make the biggest impact during the regular season? I'd love to hear your thoughts, so let's get a comment thread started.
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Rec'd. Under the circumstances, you did a very good job.
We don’t need no stinkin’ stats. Of course, Beason will start, the question is where. I’ve come around to the idea that putting the best playmaker in position to make plays is a wise move, so I would be happy to see Beason given the opportunity to work his magic in space at the WILL. He would still be making plays all over the field, without having the extra burden of wading through so much traffic in the middle. Dan Conner should be ready to take the MIKE, so to speak. His pedigree is strong and he’s been around the ball when he’s had the chance to play. I think he’ll do an excellent job. Anderson has the edge at the SAM, but like you I want to see what Norwood can do as a situational sub in passing situations. Williams provides excellent depth at both OLB spots.
Jordan Senn was very good on STs last year, and I think he’ll make the team and help to bolster what will be the most improved ST unit in the league this year.
I can’t see much hope for the others unless they really shine in camp, but you never know until they put the pads on. Losing TD was tough, but this linebacking group is still going to cause a lot of headaches for Panthers opponents this year.
Where there’s a will… I want to be in it.
Thanks
I agree with you re Senn – I think his ST contributions give him a spot on the roster, but I really don’t see any of the other guys stepping over him for that role. But, it is the NFL and crazier things have definitely happened.
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." ~ David Foster Wallace
Don't count out Sean Ware.
I think Jordan Senn is the most likely LB to make the team after the obvious candidates of Beason, Anderson, Williams, Connor, and Norwood. However, Ware could be a force on special teams. He runs a 4.46 40. Anything at or under a 4.5 and that player can usually get to a punt returner before he fields the ball. Having a player of linebacker size on special teams who can run that fast could be valuable. It would be like having Thomas Davis on special teams again.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 25, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Connor
I want to see how good this guy can be. He had so much hype coming into the league but hasnt had the chance with Beason being the Iron Man of the South. Now if Beason moves from the middle Connor gets his chance and if he can show that he can be a solid starting MLB that would make our LB corp one of the best in the League.
If Beason doesnt move then I would love to see Anderson take the place of Davis because of his speed. He also showed great flashes near the end of the season last year replacing Davis so I fully believe he can do even better then he did last year.
"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain
You make a good point there sir
Reminds me of the situation with Jarrett.
I want to see how good this guy can be. He had so much hype coming into the league but hasnt had the chance with Beason being the Iron Man of the South.
Substitue “behind the All-time Franchise reception leader and yardage leader and touchdowns leader with Muhsin being the Iron Man of the team” and you’ve got the same situation.
Connor is a player. He has a nose for the football and will be very good if/when he gets on the field.
But, you can’t go wrong with naming 3 starters among Beason, Anderson, Connor, Williams. However it shakes out, they’ll be fine.
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Im with ya
I agree, the same can be said about Dwayne Jarrett like you stated. Im really looking forward to this year and seeing what these guys, that havent got the chance to play, can do.
"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain
by ThePanthers! on Jul 26, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so.
The team didn’t resign a 35 year old MLB ‘cause Connor was under performing. It’s a totally different situation. One player has never gotten a chance because of depth, and the other hasn’t gotten a chance ‘cause he’s stunk.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 26, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe he just was not ready because he was 20
We are not starting this again. Do you really need to trash the guy every time his name pops up? Once again he has not done anything but show improvement from year to year.
Are you going to cry if he does well this year? You will probably whine about why didn’t he do it sooner. Or you will say its just Matt Moore. I really cnt see you giving him any props. You are pretty much bias against him.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill
Dwayne Jarret is not a bust!
by STEVEN 785 on Jul 26, 2010 4:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't say anything about how he was going to do ...
… or if I wanted him to start, or anything like that. I was just making a comment that Connor’s situation is not the same as Jarrett’s. Lol, so can I not mention Jarrett’s name from here on without someone trying to start up that whole 200 comment argument again? Let it go. It’s over. Move on with your life.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 26, 2010 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You started it! No, you did! Nanny, nanny, boo, boo. LOL
In the off-season, we all try to be GM’s, and compare our favorite lineups. Thank goodness, that’s close to ending, and we can soon have some actual PLAYS by players on the field, to comment on.
Go, Panthers!
I'm not going to take away from the LB's any further than this comment.
You could not be more wrong. It’s EXACTLY the same situation. Both Connor and Jarrett have been buried on the depth chart. Both players have never gotten a chance because of depth, and neither stinks. Both have made plays when they’ve gotten their limited opportunity. And just FYI, Na’il Diggs and Muhsin Muhammed both not being reoffered contracts confirms that the situation is EXACTLY the same. It’s time to get younger, potentially better players on the field.
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No
Diggs was released, and Mushin wasn’t offer another contract after his old one expired.
by panthertillidrop on Jul 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Connor isn’t even an outside linebacker. If he could play outside they wouldn’t be moving Beason around. Diggs being released doesn’t affect Connor.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 26, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
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I know
I knda want to explain it but screw it. It is pretty obvious though Sniff. Don’t even know how someone couldn’t get it. But whatever we got it.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill
Dwayne Jarret is not a bust!
by STEVEN 785 on Jul 27, 2010 3:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Connor could probably play the Sam, Diggs old position.
Beason is being switched around at the Will and Mike. Diggs release doesn’t really affect Beason.
Ready for 2010 football already!!!
by Flowing Willow on Jul 28, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to see Norwood get some playing time
Seeing his highlight reel from USC impressed me especially in the tough SEC. Probably won’t get the starting job but I’ll be looking for him in preseason.
Put the 3 best on the field
I think it will pan out one of two ways:
Beason at Mike
Anderson at Will
Williams at Sam
or
Beason at Will
Connor at Mike
Williams at Sam
Either way I think Williams starts. The Panthers seem to be pretty high on him and the times he has started he has been a tackling machine. Connor too. No matter what combo of player they put on the field I think the Linebackers are going to be good. The defense last season was still nasty without TD. Now we have more time to adjust to his absence so I don’t see much of a dropoff.
Why is everyone so high on Mortty Ivy?
That’s the 2nd time I’ve seen someone say Ivy is leading the large group of undrafted linebackers we have. I don’t recall seeing any of them play, so I really don’t know which is better than the others. Has some coach said they like Ivy better?
stuff 'bout stuff.
This is mostly from last preseason
Ivy was pretty impressive.
This is really a headcase to sort through. On one hand, Beason has excelled at the Mike the past few seasons, however he has struggled without a true NT to keep blockers off of him. If Leonard can’t take up space, then we could have trouble. I would like to see a lineup of Williams/Beason/Connor, or Beason/Connor/Williams. Unless Anderson really impresses me, he is pretty athletic. I do think Connor’s instincts make up for it though, what good is speed if you don’t know where to go. As for Norwood, he may see some time at linebacker in a blitzing/run support role. Based on what I’ve seen of him, I don’t want him in coverage until he shows he’s improved.
Ready for 2010 football already!!!
by Flowing Willow on Jul 25, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Norwood is awesome in zone FYI
his man coverage is where the knock is.
I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else.
~Winston Churchill
Dwayne Jarret is not a bust!
His hips are too slow, he doesn't flip and turn well.
In zone, that can be masked, but still, his best fit right now is DPR, with some ST and run support duty thrown in. We have Anderson, Williams, Connor, and Beason to play linebacker, let’s let Norwood focus on helping our Peppers-less pass rush.
Ready for 2010 football already!!!
by Flowing Willow on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Culberton and Senn are ST aces
I expect them both to make the team.
I see the wild card with the starters being Conner. Is he good enough in coverage to play the Mike? If not then let him compete with Williams or Anderson at SAM. The best of Anderson or Williams will play the WLB.
Agree with you on those two.
Senn and Culbertson were about the only guys making tackles on ST as the season wore on. Sure we got some specialists in FA to be gunners, but these two were solid in protecting their gaps, and making plays. I have no idea how Culbertson might perform as a LB, and doubt he’ll have a chance to show it, but the guy has his value on ST.
Whoever is the best...
It all boils down to who is the best at their respective positions. Beason can play any one of the three linebacking positions, is willing to do so, and would excel. It all depends on if Anderson is better on the weak side, or is Connor better in the middle? Which ever player succeeds the most and impresses the coaches the most will determine where THE BEAST lines up on Sundays this year (and one Thursday, and hopefully some subsequent Saturdays). :-) On the other hand, barring a super human learning curve on the part of Norwood, I think Williams has the strong side locked up.

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