Bradshaw Rips Clausen
by bmoyer on Jul 18, 2010 8:09 AM EDT
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Bradshaw rips Clausen. (WSBT.com)
"I didn't like him in college and I don't like him now", Bradshaw said to a crowd at EverGreen RV in Middlebury. When asked about Clausen's potential as a pro, Bradshaw gave his opinion. "I don't like his delivery. He's slow. I don't know how many big games he's won (at Notre Dame). As far as I can count, not many. A lot of guys can throw the ball and pile up stats, but are you a difference maker?"
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Terry, Terry, Terry...props for the 4 rings with a team loaded with HOFers...
But by this logic, Matt Leinert would be an all-pro. Having watched you for many years as the resident idiot on FOX, I’ll just say your analysis is always dumbfounding, with the emphasis on dumb. You need to stop confusing your mouth with your butthole.
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+1000
ROFLMFAO
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Dwayne Jarret is not a bust!
"LMFAO" Nice work!
Assuming the “F” = fat??? Maybe I’m behind on my social networking jargon, but I found that quite amusing.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
That's a pretty harsh thing to say about a rookie
who has never taken a snap. At first I thought he was going to deride his showboating but instead he rails on his delivery and the fact he’s supposedly never won a big game a ND? So the games they did win didn’t count or were not big enough?
Bradshaw is now simply a parody of himself. Fox should save some money and replace Bradshaw with the Terry B Muppet. I would take the Muppet more seriously.
Indeed...
Furthermore, he still loves Rapethlisberger and he has one of the slowest deliveries in the NFL
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by James Dator on Jul 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Tebow may take that crown now.
Good bye #43. Good luck in Chicago.
by Flowing Willow on Jul 19, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Being from Louisiana...
Growing up in Terry’s hometown, Shreveport, and going and graduatign from LaTech University, it kind of upsets me that Terry would dawg Claussen like this, buuuut I can’t say that I disagree, I mean, I did yell NOOOOOOOOOO whenever we took Claussen, me being the HUGE Matt Moore fan that I am, I hated the pick and still hate it, but being a Panther fan, all I can hope for is that this prick sheds that label and can become a star quarterback in this league, but my fingers won’t be crossed…
Can’t wait for September when we get to put it to the NY Giants AGAIN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_BuDursFIg
+1 for Matt Moore
by Smitty89 on Jul 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Under the circumstances, I found that video quite enjoyable.
I’ll bet anyone that Bradshaw doesn’t pick against the Steelers in any week this year. If he did, it would be the first time I can remember. Come to think of it, I don’t think Jimmy Johnson’s picked against the ’Boys either.
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Wow. Not only did he get sacked
he got pushed back 10 yards, picked up, body slammed, with someone clearly picking up his fumbled ball and taking of. Great clip, highly appropriate!
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by southtunnel on Jul 18, 2010 1:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wonder why
this video never gets replayed on Fox? You’d think Howie or Strahan would pull this one out just to shut him up.
Take the world as it is, not as it ought to be.
Ok. It's official.
Terry, you need to stock up on the Tylenol and purchase your walking cane. You’re growing old and delusional. It’s sad that you’re developing into one of the grumpy old men that scream at the kids to get off his lawn than one of the nice old men that gather the children around and tell them stories of football lore at Christmas time.
My bagpipes and I will never forget this travesty.
We will never forget.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Let's go Jimmy! :D
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Ok, not to make a bunch of enemies, buuut...
This isn’t the first time his release has been questioned. I’ve heard it more about his deep ball. He has to put so much motion into it that it takes awhile and requires a lot of room. I’m concerned about this too.
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by southtunnel on Jul 18, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
sounds like
a mechanics issue that practice and conditioning could solve. Hopefully jimmy’s up to the task and THAT will decide his true ability.
His release is fine.
He does tend to float his deep ball, but he was playing on a bum foot last year remember. He couldn’t drive into it as much as he liked, resulting in a longer windup. Clausen has picture perfect mechanics, when healthy, there’s nothing wrong there. Bradshaw might have a point about wins, Clausen’s signature win was against Boston College. But there were a few times last season where the ND offense scored over 30 points and racked up over 450 yards and still lost. So take that as a factor.
Good bye #43. Good luck in Chicago.
by Flowing Willow on Jul 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Like how many rings would Bradshaw have
without the Steel Curtain, plus Hamm, Lambert, Blount, etc. keeping other teams from scoring.
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Not only that
Bradshaw was booed so many times by his own steelers fans he lost count! How many times did he have to sneak out of the back of the stadium because he feared for his own safety! Bad form sir! if you have nothing goood to say then,,,,
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It's the ultimate team game. Unless you're Peyton Manning you can't win the game on your own.
Clausen did everything in his power to put Notre Dame in a position to win. It’s not his fault the rest of the Golden Domers didn’t back him up.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I'm a little concerned though
Arm strength is in question. Which is not an issue if he’s like a Drew Breeze. But he’s suppose to be the most “NFL ready” QB in the draft, and is having trouble just moving to the #2 spot.
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Eww, you said #2 ...
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you really think anybody in the organization really expects Cantwell to be a number 2?
If not, then why would he be slotted there in OTAs, other than there not being a better option. I just thought the most NFL ready QB in the entire draft would at least be good enough to be initially slotted as a #2.
But Fox is a veterans coach so maybe you’re right, and the OTA reports about Cantwell and Moore looking like the forerunners are nothing.
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by southtunnel on Jul 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I still say naming Cantwell as #2 is a ploy aimed at Clausen...
to motivate his a$$ to sign and get to camp. They don’t want Clausen thinking he’s worth too much before he signs a contract.
Head games, in the first degree.
Head games, by Marty Hurney.
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I was wondering this too
Was watching NFLN yesterday about how important certain rookies were, and how their teams needed to get in them camp. Got me thinking… That would be a great way for the organization to have an upper hand in the negotiations.
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"Head Games"
LOL! — You’re en fuego! You’ve been on a funny man roll this thread my friend. Keep’em coming!!
To me...
…it sounds like the age old struggle: small town, little guy, who had to scrape and claw his way to the big time, deriding the high profile, silver spoon type who has been afforded all the breaks since childhood.
What? Bradshaw just smoked himself.
He said Montana was the best QB in history, but Montana said he liked Clausen.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/22/montana-shares-thoughts-on-quarterbacks/
So, Bradshaw just made his own comments on the subject invalid.
stuff 'bout stuff.
And I'm sure Montana watched a lot more Notre Dame games...
than did FOX’s comic relief football analyst, Terry Bradshaw.
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Bradshaw, the Delhomme Fan
Bradshaw also was a huge fan of Jake Delhomme. That should end all credibility when it comes to his rating QBs.
Please see...
…my post above. Small town guy with an internal fire who had to make something of himself…AND from Louisiana? Of COURSE Bradshaw wi’ll be a Delhomme fan. Hell, I LOVED Delhomme…but I knew when it was time for him to go. I can love an individual and give him some leeway, but once he starts destroying the team’s chances…I don’t stop loving what he represents, but I stop supporting his inclusion in that team.
Jake, I still think you’re a great individual…and I hope for the best success in orange and brown…but I hope you know, as I did, that your time in teal and black was done. And I hope you don’t have any sour grapes about it, as I don’t.
The point was...
Jake was an okay QB during his tenure, but he was never elite. Bradshaw seemed capable of dismissing some of the most obvious flaws in Jake’s play and putting him in the ranks of some of the best QBs in the league.
oh, I agree...
…I just think Bradshaw was blinded by a similar upbringing and the fact that Jake, regardless of stats, was a standup guy. :-)
He has a huge task in Cleveland
Very little talent around him, and in a tough division. I wish he could have gotten on a better team, but then of course he probably wouldn’t be starting.
Word is Man-genius is not to happy with him starting either.
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That's because he's a terrible QB.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Yeah but he's everybody's favorite terrible QB :)
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I wonder what he thinks of Matt Moore?
Ideally Claussen will never see the field in Carolina anyways because Moore will be tearing it up.
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Terry Bradshaw is the MOST overrated QB in the history of the NFL.
It amazes me that guys like Bradshaw and Ron Jaworski can be considered ‘experts’ on the quarterback position.
Bradshaw: Career rating 70.9, never had a season with a QB rating over 90.
Jaworski: Career rating 72.8, one season with a QB rating over 90.
Yet here’s what JOE MONTANA said about Clausen:
Jimmy comes from a system that’s been run in the NFL, so he’s been under center and in the shotgun. He has all those things that are intangible. He’s a tremendous competitor.
He came in with a little bit more of an attitude than most people wanted, but if you don’t have an attitude, you don’t make it in the league. You can’t be timid and shy.
Just so we can compare… here’s Montana’s career: Career QB rating of 92.3, 4 seasons with a QB rating over 100, 6 seasons with a QB rating over 90.
I think I know who’s assessment I trust
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Wow, Bradshaw only had 2 more TDs than INTs. He was 3 picks away from being in the red. That rookie year was … yikes. He didn’t even have a decent year ‘til his 6th. How does a player like that keep his job for so long? He never should’ve gotten a 6th year.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 18, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty surprising when you go back and look at the stats. The ‘legends’ weren’t as impressive as we’re often lead to believe… it was just that they played in a different era.
Case in point, Joe Namath… in his career he threw 173 TDs and 220 INTs. His career QB rating was 65.5… but he’s remembered as one of the greatest to play the position.
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by James Dator on Jul 19, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Fascinating.
I never knew. I could’ve almost done that good.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 19, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Easy now - slow your roll
I didn’t miss the qualifying remark of “different era” and this is less of a rant at you James as it is to those thinking QBs sucked back then…
I think a more accurate description would be “wholly different era.” Back then it was a league of vertical passing attacks. If a QB was able to complete 60% he may as well walk on water as well. It wasn’t really until Bill Walsh was the O-coordinator in Cleveland or Coryell came into the league that it was feasible to pass with high efficiency. Defenses could rough the receivers up (hold, grab, push, mug, etc) as they went down the field and even if they did get a pass interference it was 15 yards, not a spot foul. Defenders could lead with their heads, hit in the head and near about kill receivers. There is a very good reason the predominant philosophy in football was “three things can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad.”
The league has turned into a passing league because of the short passing attack and rules which cater to the offense. i FREAKING LOVE football, but an apt analogy is modern day football passing statistics are today as the steroid era is to baseball.
by adamwanderer on Jul 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with everything above, it was a different game (and better in some ways).
But I don’t remember pass interference being only 15 yards. When did that change?
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correction
Bill Walsh was the O-coordinator for Cincinnati (Paul Brown head coach thing threw me)
I believe it was 1977, but I could be wrong on that. That was the year a number of rule changes were made to open up the passing game.
by adamwanderer on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There wasn’t really an emphasis on passing accuracy and limiting mistakes until the 49-ers’ West Coast offense in the 1980’s. And of course Montana is one of the first QB’s to be affiliated with it.
During the 70’s, if a QB completed 50% of his passes and had thrown for, lets say, 20 TD’s and 17 INT’s in a season, he was considered to be a decent QB.
That being said…you’re still right. Bradshaw is one of most overrated QB’s for real. If it wasn’t for Franco Harris, Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, and the Steelers’ D, TB’s career would’ve been a fail.
Terry Bradshaw needs to just shut up. I can’t stand him. ugh!
you do realize we live in a fluffed up league now tailor made for the offense to score points. The NFL today is about offense and throwing the ball hell only a hand full of teams can actually run the ball effectively. Defenses could do a lot more back in the day to WR’s Lineman and QBs.
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I can’t stand Bradshaw or anyone else on the same show he’s on… they’re all blithering idiots in my opinion… I don’t care if they were coaches or how many rings they hold; none of them retired winners… they tried to eke out a few more wins… Bradshaw is like John Madden to me… I wish someone would stuff a football in their pie hole and shut them up. At least Madden retired.
If you watch/listen to Terry's comments.....
rather than read them, they aren’t that bad. I didn’t come away from watching the interview feeling like he was bashing or ripping Clausen. He even says on multiple occasions that he hopes Jimmy proves him wrong. He also says that there aren’t a lot of guys out there that blow him away and that he has some concerns about Bradford. I’m not a big Bradshaw fan either, but let’s be fair. His tone was not that of someone with a personal vendetta or someone trying to bash a young rookie.
Watch it here.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/22825103/vp/38291444#38291444
I think in the video it seems a little more sugar coated...
It doesn’t include the part about the slow delivery or “i don’t like him now.” I get the impression he’s super down on Clausen and what he’s saying is somewhat of a euphemism. He’s not exactly a great talent evaluator though.
I watched the "slow delivery" and "I didn't like him then and I don't like him now" comments on your video link.
Unfortunately, your link left off the middle to the end of the clip.
I totally agree….Terry Bradshaw does not think much of Jimmy Clausen as a football player. Obviously, he’s not alone or we wouldn’t have been able to pick him up where we did. Hell, Mike Holmgren basically said the same thing about Clausen before the draft. All I am saying is that I think folks are overreacting to his comments by reading in some sort of ill will or malice that was not used or intended. There is a lot more bashing of Bradshaw in this thread than there was of Clausen in the video. Terry doesn’t like Jimmy. Duly noted. I’m going to watch Terry and Mel drive into the pool in Cannonball Run.
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The most exciting come from behind thriller of a QB ever. I named my new puppy, Jake :)
Jake is a great name for a dog
and he is in Cleveland now.
Agree with those that love Jake but his time had passed in Carolina. Jake will remain one of my all-time favorite Panthers not just because of his late game heroics but because of his unassuming, country boy attitude. He always has time for the fans.
Kept waiting for the punchline...
Terry is certifiable. Always has been. I don’t really put much stock into anything he says. Let’s allow Clausen to decide what kind of NFL player he is going to be, hmm?
"If you ask Jets' CB Darrelle Revis, there is no one who is harder to cover one-on-one than Steve Smith. That has to mean something coming from last year's runner-up for Defensive Player of the Year."
Help me understand something?
So, if you are a quarterback and you help lead your offense to over 30 points a game and at least 7 games of over 300 yards, you are a bad quarterback because your defense can not stop a cold.
Terry, emberass yourself much.
This is the problem with these famous espn analysts!
All of these guys think that just because they were pretty good football players in their day, they can make comments like this without any real research. First off you can’t judge the skills of a player who hasn’t even taken a snap in the nfl. I will there are some players out there that i write off too, but at least i have seen them play. I would like Mr. Bradshaw to do some actual research and find out how many players have slipped into the nfl with so called amateur talent, and ended up stars. I think that he would be surprised with the result.
Pretty Good?
Terry Bradshaw was the first overall pick in the year of his draft. He won 4 (yes 4) Super Bowls as a quarterback, was named the Super Bowl MVP twice (also as a quarterback), named to the all decade team, 1978 NFL MVP, etc… I think it goes without saying that he is truly at least a pretty good quarterback. I mean, he was a first ballot hall of famer.
Yes, I think you can judge the skills of a player who hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL. It’s why the yearly NFL draft doesn’t involve Roger Goddell pulling players names out of a hat. Sure, you are going to get busts, and players that over perform based on the spot they were drafted, but there are much more that play accordingly.
I do think that Mr. Bradshaw has done some actual research about players and the NFL. In fact, he currently has a job as a Football analyst on FOX. I’m sure he has added knowledge when valuing a quarterback, as he did play the toughest position in all of sports for over a decade. We also aren’t talking about amateur talent here, Clausen was projected by some in the top 10 of the NFL Draft.
I rest my case in saying that while Terry Bradshaw isn’t the greatest person to listen to about the NFL, but he is ahead of a lot of other people in my book.
Just looking at his stats you wouldn’t know he was a Hall of Fame anything.
stuff 'bout stuff.
by silver82blade on Jul 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good think I don't just look at stats then
Then I wouldn’t have much of an argument
by Mattyice318 on Jul 23, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
But do you look at them at all?
Or do you just like making stat-less counter arguments about guys that play for a division rival?
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by southtunnel on Jul 24, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradshaw
He once said John Elway would never be a good NFL QB, or words to that effect. This was after Elway had been in the NFL for some years.
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