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Carolina Panthers Mock Draft Version 3.0

 

Carolina Panthers Draft Prediction 3.0

Hey Panther fans, only a couple more days ‘till the draft!  This is my third and final Panthers mock draft, and I am trying to switch it up a bit and show a possible draft that is more ‘outside of the box.’

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The pundits all basically say the same thing in mock drafts and are essentially followers.  Here’s how it goes: At one time, someone asserts that Ndamukong Suh will be the first player taken, and then everybody follows. à Then someone else will write that Sam Bradford, not Suh, will be the first taken, and then EVERYBODY follows suit.  These are the pundits that are saying that Carolina will pick a DT like Price first or a WR like Benn, and then everybody else follows with that. 

I don’t like following these pundits and others mock drafts because they can be bland, contain little actual analysis, and can simply be copycat mock drafts.  So don’t expect this mock draft to pick the most popular picks or players.  Also don’t expect this to fall in line with a prospect ranking chart, because many of these charts are largely inaccurate.  Furthermore, the Panthers are in many ways unpredictable, and in the past ‘experts have failed to come even close to what the Panthers pick.  Therefore, this draft is an attempt to think outside the box, and show readers a different, hopefully more realistic, possible approach that the Panthers might take towards the draft.

Round

Player

2 (Pick 48)

Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota

At 6-3 and 215, Decker is a tall and thick WR, and would be a perfect replacement for Muhsin Muhammad.  The Panthers pick him for this reason, because he has great size, runs good routes, has great body control, plays physically and would be a good blocker in the Panther offense.  Additionally, Decker is dominant against smaller corners and in double teams.  Can be a deep threat like Moose, and like Moose, he has great concentration to bring the ball down in tough situations and win jump balls.  Can line up in the slot or on the sideline and run every route on the tree.  Very productive in college, and was a multisport athlete playing baseball and almost went to the MLB.  Would be a great target opposite Steve Smith.  Is NFL ready and can step in immediately and contribute.  Must have glue on his hands because he has only dropped 3 (yes 3!) passes ever as a Golden Gopher.  Very possibly the best possession WR in the draft and vastly underrated by copycat scouts.  Downside with this guy is that he doesn’t have elite speed, although he does have nice acceleration into his routes and can create separation regardless.  Not having elite speed has not been a factor though because of his sheer physicality and route running.  Another downside is that he is coming off of a foot surgery, but this shouldn’t be much of an issue as his surgery was done by Panther team doctor, Dr. James Anderson, who gave the all clear for the Panthers to pick Jonathan Stewart.  So the injury shouldn’t be a big factor.  Also, Offensive Coordinator Jeff Davidson was at his pro-day, and must have been drooling at this guy’s potential in his power offense.  All in all, the Panthers are looking for the next Moose type receiver, and he fits the bill. Decker might not be around for the Panthers in round 3, so he is the first Panther chosen in the draft.

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3 (Pick 78)

George Selvie, DE, USF

Okay, the Panthers have already chosen their greatest need-WR, and now they need to turn to their second greatest need-DE.  With Pro Bowl DE Peppers gone, there is a glaring hole at DE, and the Cats need at least some depth at DE, so they go with one here, and Selvie would be a great pick.  As everyone knows, Selvie burst onto the national spotlight in his sophomore year, racking up 59 tackles, 31.5 TFL, and 14.5 sacks! Since then, teams have gotten wise about him, and he has been largely double teamed the past two years, allowing JPP to shine.  Although the double teams have slowed his production, amazingly, he is still getting to the QB!  This is basically the role Peppers filled, so Selvie would fit well here, especially in a Meeks’ fast, Cover 2 D.  At 6’4" and 250, he is tall and lanky, and can add weight, which he’ll need to do in the pros to stay at DE.  Although only 250, he is relatively strong for his size.  Is extremely quick and has great feet quickness.  40 Time is somewhere between 4.7-4.9.  Good pass rusher and surprisingly efficient against the run and holding his assignment.  At this time, the most hyped and highest rated DE prospects are off the board- i.e. JPP, D Morgan, B Graham, Wootton, Dunlap, and Griffen.  Tweeners like Worilds, Sapp, and Hughes may also be gone by this time also, and Hardy isn’t worth picking because he is a china doll and injures easily.  So, Selvie is really the best of what’s left, and after him there’s really no quality DEs left.  Brian Baker was at USF’s pro day, and my guess was that he liked what he saw: a high-motor guy with a lot of potential.  The Panthers desperately need another DE, and Selvie would be a great fit.

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4 (Pick 112)

Rennie Curran, LB, UGA

The draft is deep in linebackers this year, and Curran could be a talent that falls a little bit later, and would fall to the Panthers advantage, or the Panthers might trade up to pick him. (The Panthers have made 11 draft day trades in the past 8 years, so don’t be surprised if they trade sometime this weekend)  Although Curran lacks height at 5’11", he makes up for it in speed and pure muscle!  Has a 4.56 40 time, and at 225 lbs, he busts out of his pads and looks like a shorter version of the hulk.  Ferocious and packs a hit like TNT.  Exceptionally good at finding the RB and bringing him down.  Also locks on to the ‘backs legs like a leech and won’t let go till he is down.   Is tremendous in covering TEs and RBs in coverage additionally.  Size and depth of LB in this draft make him slide down a couple rounds.  His size and ability probably line him up for a SLB position, but can play MLB if needed, and could even play WLB with his speed and cover abilities.  His versatility is another great feature about this guy, especially since the Panthers will have little depth at MLB (Beason) and SLB (Connor), which he could fill in for. (Since Anderson will probably back up Davis at WLB because he is really not a fit for SLB).  With the release of Na’il Diggs, the Panthers are now low on depth at linebacker, (especially at MLB and SLB) and Curran would be a fine backup, although he could even challenge Connor for SLB, and is going to be a great starter down the line.

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6 (Pick 175)

Taylor Price, WR, Ohio

Although the Panthers have chosen a WR already, they have little quality depth at the position, and as we know from history, the Panthers draft multiple players at a position of high need.  So going WR again isn’t delusional here.  Also the Panthers have a lot of interest in Taylor Price.  In fact, Marty Hurney spent more than an hour going over film with Price.  Many pundits predict that he is one of the top 10 WRs in the class and will go 2-3rd round, but they couldn’t be more wrong.  Price is a good player, but has been systematically overrated by copycats, which is why he falls.  However, at this point, he would be a superb value.  Price is a track star, and runs an extremely fast 40, somewhere between 4.3-4.40.  So he can separate vertically and be a deep threat.  Has had good, not great, production.  Also doesn’t run the best routes and not a sudden direction changing threat.  May not be able to beat press coverage, and not a great blocker.  Probably will play the slot position, or be relegated to be the 3rd, 4th or 5th WR.  Humble guy, great character, and the Panthers really like him.  Seeing as the Panthers don’t have a 5th rounder, if he falls to the 6th, they’d probably take him the first chance they got.

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6 (Pick 202)

Darian Stewart, CB/S, South Carolina

If S Quinton Teal is gone, the Panthers will need depth at Cornerback and Safety.  Knowing that the Panthers value versatility, here they pick up Darian Stewart, who has played, and is capable of playing both CB and S.  Much like Chris Harris, Stewart’s a physical hitter and has good instincts.  He can run with receivers though and plays zone coverages well.  Although he is not a ballhawk, he has versatility to play both CB and S.  Also will be probably a good special teamer. 

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6 (Pick 204)

Bill Stull, QB, Pitt

This draft is chock full of Spread QBs and ones that played at small schools and haven’t done well against better teams.  There are few pro-style QBs in the draft, and Bill Stull is one of them.  More so than Dan LeFevour and others, Stull seems more like a guy that fits the Panthers’ mold of a QB.  Stull played QB at Pitt, where they employed a more pro-style offense, taking snaps under center and dropping back to make passes similar to those in our offense.  Another underrated player whose production has been very good: in 2009 he had a 65.1 comp %, 2633 yds, 8.2 YPA, 150.61 QB rating, and a TD-to-INT ratio of 21 to 8!  Is 6-3, weighing 215.  Longest ball thrown was 79 yds, so he can throw the long ball.  Also played well consistently throughout the year and against a variety of teams.  The Panthers don’t take QBs early, so they take one late, and take one that fits their system, so Stull stays a Panther.

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7 (Pick 223)

Brody Eldridge, TE, Oklahoma

Although the Panthers already have three tight ends, you may be thinking, why another?  Here’s why:  Eldridge is incredibly versatile and shores up multiple backup positions just by his addition.  Although he plays the TE position, Eldridge has starting experience playing fullback, tight end, center and even left guard!  Although he is not Jason Witten and isn’t going to be a threat in the passing game, he is an excellent driving blocker, and would fit nicely in the Panthers power run game.  The stat sheet has Eldridge playing at 6-5  and 260, but he is a beefcake and plays much nastier and more physical than that.  Eldridge should drop to the later rounds because of all the pass receiving TEs such as Pitta, Dickson, Hernandez, Quarless, Graham should go first.  Bottom line is that this guy is the ultimate utility guy for a physical power run gameàIf Fiammetta, Kalil, or even anyone on the line has an unfortunate incident, you could plug this guy in there, or you could simply utilize him for goal line situations and special teams.

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7 (Pick 249)

Reggie Stephens, OG/C, Iowa State

The Panthers have a penchant for using late round picks on Offensive lineman, and have actually done well developing these late round picks into starters and quality backups.  With Keydrick Vincent gone, and assuming Mackenzy Bernadeau will be starting at guard, the Panthers do not have a backup center, and now have even less depth at guard.  Another underrated player: Reggie Stephens, from Iowa State who is a behemoth at 6’3" and 322.  Along with great size, Reggie is a tough and smothering interior lineman.  Perfect for the power running game.  Can play Center and Guard, giving depth to both positions.  Downside is that he is more slow-footed and isn’t very flexible, but absolutely smothers.  Is good line leader, and will happily be the QB of the offensive line.  Bottom line is the Panthers need O line depth and typically take one here, so they take a guy who fits their offense and is somewhat versatile.

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Poll
Which pick/player do you like most? Why?
Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
42 votes
George Selvie, DE, USF
21 votes
Rennie Curran, LB, UGA
4 votes
Taylor Price, WR, Ohio
8 votes
Darian Stewart, CB/S, South Carolina
3 votes
Bill Stull, QB, Pitt
4 votes
Brody Eldridge, TE, Oklahoma
2 votes
Reggie Stephens, OG/C, Iowa State
3 votes

87 votes | Poll has closed

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I would not be too thrilled if the draft went down this way. It is filled with reaches. And I’m not just talking about public opinion, I’ve seen analysis on all these guys. Decker is two rounds too early, Selvie is probably two or three rounds early. Curran is great value, Price is good in the sixth, Stull is great in the sixth. Eldridge is alright, but he seems more like an UDFA. Stevens and Stewart I don’t know much about.

Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.

120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good

89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad

Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless

by Flowing Willow on Apr 20, 2010 3:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Like I said in my introduction....

I am not interested in following most scouts estimates. I have individually analyzed these players and think that they may go around here. Like I said up top, most everyone underrates Decker, but I think he’s a 2nd, early 3rd pick. And with Selvie, he’d probably have to be taken early, b/c with the lack of depth at the DE position this year, the quality DE’s will probably go quickly…

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Decker will not be anything more than a solid possession receiver.

He lacks downfield speed. 3rd round ceiling. And Selvie is too light, although that’s not as bad a reach as some others.

And I’m not talking about most scouts estimates, although if most scouts say one thing is true there’s a pretty good chance it is. These guys are reaches, no matter how you paint it.

But the rest of your draft is good. :)

Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.

120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good

89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad

Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless

by Flowing Willow on Apr 21, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

After reading the thread,

I also want to congratulate you on all the work you put in, and apologize if I come across as a little harsh. :)

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120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good

89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad

Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless

by Flowing Willow on Apr 21, 2010 3:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Sniff on Apr 20, 2010 3:56 AM EDT reply actions  

2nd is way too early for Eric Decker

Most analysts predict he’ll go in the 4th or 5th rounds.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...I wouldn't mind getting Decker and Taylor

if we go defense early…a DE or DT

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by Jaxon on Apr 20, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said...

I don’t care about what most analysts say…

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand

But why overpay for something that you can most likely get cheaper?

Obviously the Panthers loved Jon Beason, but they traded down because they understood that the market set his value lower and wanted to get the player they liked at the best price they could get him.

You may love Eric Decker and think he’s worth a 2nd rounder, but why spend a second rounder on him when you can get him in the 3rd or 4th? That’s the mistake the Oakland Raiders continually make, they fail to understand that the players they like and where the league values them aren’t often in line and rather than get value they consistently over reach and over pay.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I will just about guarantee you that Decker will be there in the 3rd-4th round. Trust me, I like the kid too, especially after seeing that video where he gets destroyed in the Cal game and still makes the catch for a TD – but I think we need to address DE/DT first if we’re going to get Decker, because he will be there in the 3rd or 4th, where a better DE/DT will not.

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

….that Decker will be there in the third. The injury is the reason he has dropped down the draft but I think there is a chance that few other team have ranked him that high. I feel that he is worth a slight “reach” at 48 compared to the other options.

If I had to change it, I guess the only thing I would change then is get Tyson Alualu in round 2 and get Decker in round 3.

by pieterzen on Apr 20, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

To James The Aussie...

Why are you so concerned with what some scout may say?? In what way are they fully knowledgeable and always 100% correct with their mock draft, predictions, rankings, etc…
The point is that, in this mock draft, I am not taking into concern what every copycat scout says. Look at last year… Hakeem Nicks was not supposed to be a 1st rounder, but the NY Giants obviously valued him that high and as we have seen from his production last year, it was a great value pick in retrospect despite the scouts say that he wasn’t a first rounder….

In writing this mock draft, I did NOT look at scouts prospect rankings for the reasons listed at the top of the page. I DON’T CARE WHAT SCOUTS SAY or where they predict guys to go!!! This mock draft was done by my OWN individual scouting and analysis…

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What makes you think you know more than the scouts know?

Not trying to be argumentative, but what makes you think you know more about these players than the people who are paid to evaluate them?

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya'll are obviously missing the point of this mock draft...

Please go re-read what I have written in the mock draft… I specified these concerns in my introduction of this mock draft. If you don’t understand what I am saying, please re-read and re-read.

Listen, I forewarned ya’ll in my intro that I am not going to follow the copycat scouts. This mock draft is SUPPOSED to be unlike what the scouts think. I AM NOT claiming to know more than any of these scouts,
HOWEVER
I DO aim to provide a different and independent analysis, valuation, and prediction from these scouts. I am relying on MY OWN scouting and valuation of the players because I personally believe scouts like the “Draft Guru” Mel Kiper Jr and “experts” like Todd McShay are not and have not been completely accurate in their predictions,valuation, and analysis of drafts. You can choose to simply believe exactly what you read, but history has only proven that these scouts are largely inaccurate. Additionally, the Panthers have proven to not draft similarly to what scouts think they will…

Bottom line: This mock does not aim to be blindly following the rest of the herd, but to think independently and provide an unconventional, subjective analysis. I have read and seen enough of the exact same-looking mock drafts that say the same boring thing to make me want to vomit, and that is why I am providing a different perspective that I thought people might find different and yet interesting….

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not replying to the mock draft, I'm replying to the comment...
In writing this mock draft, I did NOT look at scouts prospect rankings for the reasons listed at the top of the page. I DON’T CARE WHAT SCOUTS SAY or where they predict guys to go!!! This mock draft was done by my OWN individual scouting and analysis…

To me, this just came across as “know-it-all”. If it wasn’t intended that way, my apologies.

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

To bwsmith25, James the Aussie, rawjem, and everyone...

I apologize if my writing has come off as know-it-all, this was not my intention…

I don’t know it all. To give full credit to scouts and experts: I know very very very little in comparison to them and I love reading what they think about players and the draft. James the Aussie, you make a very valid point on how players are valued and I agree with it. And you are right, I have a more negative view of scouts and experts, even though I am interested and value in what they think.

I also apologize if I am coming across defensive and angry, I simply feel like some maybe are missing the point of my article, though I respect their opinions.

All that I wanted to do was pretend I was a scout and mock the Panthers. Personally, I don’t think my mock is any more valid than anyone else’s and I doubt it will come to fruition. Again, I apologize for maybe being a little defensive or know it all-ish, this was not my intention…

Just wanted to mock the Panthers from a different perspective is all…

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's cool...

I like your “thinking outside the box” – I think that’s great.

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless if we disagree I value your post 100%

I rec’d it because you put a lot of work into this and you make very valid points.

Like I said before, I would be happy with many of these players. If Eric Decker comes after the selection of , say, Corey Wootton I’m thrilled.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved the mock and

I also value your opinion and enjoyed reading a totally different take…Keep posting!!

by rawjem01 on Apr 21, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

jkp

I get it. I actually enjoyed your mock and understand that u are trying to look at alternatives to what the “pros” are saying. I have to agree that since I’ve been paying attn to mocks over the last 4 or 5 years, I can’t remember one draft analyst getting the Panthers Pick right. (Steward/Otah were mentioned) but neither of those was the ‘consensus’ picks for our Panthers.

My only gripe with u jkp is that u’ve taken away from the enjoyment of reading your article by coming across as overly sensitive that some people critiqued (sp?) your post. U sound very defensive and even angry. This is a site for discussion…we rarely agree on much but most of the fun is the discorse. Be Easy brother…no one knows what the Cats are gonna do but Furney and the Big Cat.

They’ll let us into the loop on Friday or maybe even Thursday. If any of your picks come up…u look like a genious…if not…u look like the rest of us Panther junkies who have no clue what the FO is up to.

by rawjem01 on Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has nothing to do with what 'some scout says'

It has everything to do with getting value.

I may love a TV made by LG, I may like it a lot more than a more expensive Sony TV which everyone says is better- but that doesn’t mean I’ll pay $500 more for that LG TV just because I like it more.

I’m glad you like Decker, that is completely your valued opinion of him. I like him too… I like Decker as a 4th round pick and love him as a 5th round pick but I think throwing away a 2nd round pick for a guy who will be there later is a bad way to draft.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

RHETORICAL QUESTION...

How do you know what “value” is? Is it based upon what every copycat scout thinks? In fact, how can anyone REALLY assess what “value” is defined as with 32 different and wacky teams providing 32 dissimilar “valuations” of the players???

P.S. No answer needed, this is simply meant to provoke individual thought…

by jkp1516 on Apr 20, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give an answer

I defer to the analysis of experts to supplement by personal opinions of players. There is good reason you can search ‘mock draft’ and get 100 different variations, and there’s good reason why teams pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for scouting departments.

I can assure you not every scouting department is a ‘copycat’. Look at any collection of mocks and you’ll see the top 10 of the draft may be similar, but then they splinter greatly.

I read what you wrote in your opening paragraph, and correct me if I’m wrong but I think you have a very negative perception of how scouts and analysts evaluate talent. Ultimately, however, these scouts get it right more often than they get it wrong. Every analyst had Darius Heyward-Bey being a late 1st, early 2nd round pick- but the Raiders chose to take him in the top 10. Who was right? Granted it’s early, but DHB looked lost in the NFL.

Scouting departments set the value of players. Does it mean some players get the short end of the stick? Absolutely- but this is the way the NFL works. Eric Decker could be worth every bit of the #1 overall pick, we just don’t know; he could be the next Jerry Rice for all we know.

That being said, when analysts almost universally predict him as a mid round pick then I defer to their knowledge in to evaluate the ebbs and flows of the draft. Mel Kiper does this better than anyone. He may not be very good at predicting how a player will do in the NFL, but he’s very accurate when it comes to where a player will be selected because he understands the thought processes inside a war room.

So while you’re right- nobody can really assess value, we’re not in a world that operates in those ethereal terms. Every player in the draft has a perceived value and Eric Decker’s perceived value is a mid round pick. I love the players you’ve chosen as a group, but I just question the ideology behind taking a player earlier than you have to. It doesn’t mean you’re not getting the same Eric Decker in the 4th round you would take in the 2nd round, it just means you waited to do so.

Look at Tony Fiametta. Fiametta was head and shoulders the best FB in the 2009 draft and seen as one of the best blockers at FB in the last several years. We desperately needed a guy to take over for Hoover, but that didn’t mean we spent a 2nd round pick on him. The Panthers understood that the perceived value of him was a 4th rounder and waiting until the last possible moment to pull the trigger so they could squeeze as much talent out of their draft class as possible.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decker universally considered a mid-round pick?

Please site sources. Mayock, Kiper and Scout, Inc. have him as the 5th best WR. Most sites I have seen at least have him in the top ten for the position. It all depends on the Panther’s draft board, but getting him in the 2nd isn’t as big of a reach as you are making it out to be, IMO.

by zrjohnso on Apr 20, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

My two preferred sources...

NFLDraftScout and WalterFootball have him 2-3 and 5-6 respectively. I find it amusing how the ratings vary so greatly. Scout.com has him ranked 108th overall, 14th among WR’s. DraftCountDown has him the 8th overall WR. FFToolBox has him ranked 9th among receivers.

I think it’s pretty safe to say you could make just about any argument you wanted for the guy considering he’s all over the board.

My (Hopeful) Panther Draft: (2) DE Corey Wootton - (3) Akwasi Owush-Ansah - (4) OLB/DE Eric Norwood - (6) WR Marcus Easley - (6) WR David Gettis - (6) DT Nick Collins - (7) CB Jamar Wall - (7) QB Armanti Edwards

by D-Ranged1 on Apr 20, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great routes, great hands, good, enthusiastic blocker, good size.

Those are the pluses that make him one of the top WR’s in the draft, surely to go by the end of the second round.

Has had severe injuries — these are the fears that show him in later rounds on other mocks.

Is his glass half full, or half empty? It’s all perception.

(I hope we get him!)

by bigdavis on Apr 20, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decker's ratings by estimated round

Walter Football: 5-6
NFL Draft Scout: 2-3
Bleacher Report: 3
Draft Countdown: 2-3
FF Toolbox: 4
NFL Touchdown: 3
FF Jungle: 3
NFL Draft Day Insider: 4
Mocking the Draft: 3-4 (assumed as he was not of their two round mock)

This is every site I can find and his overall rank average is: 3.46 which is almost exactly half of 7 (the number of rounds in the draft).

I feel validated calling Decker as a projected mid round pick.

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by James Dator on Apr 21, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Walter Football

Two different opinions on the same site. What’s up with that?

Round 5-6
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010WR.php

Late 1st to early 2nd
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2010edecker.php

I agree with D-Ranged1. He is all over the board, so who knows?

by zrjohnso on Apr 21, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like stewart there

But for some reason I really want Myron Rolle. Like bad.

Richardson you better not screw this up for me!

by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I really like Myron Rolle too.

The ‘he doesn’t want to play football’ argument is so infuriating to me.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too...

God forbid he use his intelligence and become a Rhodes Scholar – every time someone brings that up it makes me want to punch someone in the face.

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem I have is that Tim Tebow’s character is seen as an asset, yet Myron Rolle’s is seen as a liability. One soapbox is okay for the NFL and one isn’t.

There’s a lack of consistency in message that bothers me. Who wants to play football more? The guy who scored a 22 on the wonderlic and has nothing else, or the guy who could make seven figures as a surgeon but just wants to play football.

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by James Dator on Apr 20, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1000000000000000.....

Richardson you better not screw this up for me!

by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know too much about Myron Rolle

but I think the “experts” are thinking too hard about his absence at Pro day. From what I remember, Rolle decided to have his own Pro day in Florida and that got some of the “experts” upset. Of course it all makes sense if you’ve been brainwashed like I did by the “bloodied” Tim Tebow scene on TV about 1000 times a day.

by Shockers on Apr 20, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know - they act like Tebow is the first person to ever bleed on the field

It’s all a bunch of Tebow worship if you ask me, and it’s sickening.

I’d honestly rather hear about Favre than Tebow, and that’s saying something.

As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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by BW Smith on Apr 20, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait 'til he parts the green turf with his footballstick.

My (Hopeful) Panther Draft: (2) DE Corey Wootton - (3) Akwasi Owush-Ansah - (4) OLB/DE Eric Norwood - (6) WR Marcus Easley - (6) WR David Gettis - (6) DT Nick Collins - (7) CB Jamar Wall - (7) QB Armanti Edwards

by D-Ranged1 on Apr 20, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol I agree

Bring on the Favre watch!

Richardson you better not screw this up for me!

by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 3:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well he’s a genious and he’s got decent speed. Nice build and height. High character high motor…the kind of guys we like playing for our team.

Richardson you better not screw this up for me!

by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec'd. I'd have to say this is as good a mock draft as I've seen...

in that you did exactly what you said, and successfully justified every selection. I mean, everybody’s gonna have some favorite player not listed, or an opinion based on the “conventional wisdom.” Yours is well thought out and gets an ‘A’.

Oh wait, where’s Armanti? ;-)

by Rick Bates on Apr 20, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I rec'd it, too -- nice effort and thought.

Everybody’s entitled to their opinions, and for all we know, yours may be more accurate, as compared to actual draft order, than the so-called “experts.”

Personally, I’m not gonna take the time to put out my own fantasy draft, as I don’t know as much about underclassmen and their strengths/weaknesses than any of you guys. I just can’t wait, though, to see who the Panthers’ pick, and where.

by bigdavis on Apr 20, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree with Stull at QB

I like Benn and/or Lafell in rnd 2. Would consider Decker with 3rd or 4th though. I like Jacoby Ford over Tayor Price. Think there could be some decent DE’s down the board such as C. J. Wilson, Danny Batten or Austen Lane. Also, some value DT’s down the board like Nate Collins, Corey Peters, and Malcolm Sheppard. I really think Stull is a great pick because he already knows the pro system under former NFL coach Wanssadt. I’m really intrigued by Kam Chancellor as a college safety converted to an NFL LB in the mode of Thomas Davis in Meeks defense. Probably have to get him in round 3 or he’ll be gone. Thanks for putting it out there and we’ll see in a couple of days.

by magicman56 on Apr 20, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Decker will not make it past rd 2

I’d love him in the 3rd rd but unless Seattle takes Dez Bryant in the 1st rd they will take him at #60. Seattles’s new QB coach is Decker’s old OC at Minnesota and Seattle needs recievers.
Selvie from everything I’ve seen is universially sliding down the boards and Fox has never taken a defensive player from the Big East.
Personally using Selvie as an your example of the best of the rest of the DEs then I’ really like a LB in the 3rd; Dekota Watson, Curran, or Edds and I like Wilson (ECU) Lang (Troy) in the 4th rd and possibly Selvie in the 5th by trading a pick next year.
I don’t think Price lasts to the 6th but there are other late rd recievers (Gettis, Reed, Brown) that supports your point though.
Also I don’t understand why the need for OL we have 11 now on the team but I don’t really have a beef with taking this G/C.
You obviously did your homework on Eldridge who could be a very valuable addition and play multiple positions. Fox has in his time here has spent a pick on TEs 3 straight years skipped a year and repeat. We didn’t draft a TE last year so this is a year to start a new cycle..
Overall good job and Robinson who we got last year was the #1 ranked guard and slated to go in the 2nd and we got him in the 5th, so some players are taken higher /lower than pre draft projections.

by Robert Woodring on Apr 21, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

I like your way of thinking : )

by jkp1516 on Apr 21, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Lil Changes

I agree with your picks somewhat. Instead of the hull pick, why dont carolina bring in some state pride and get Edwars from App STate? All threat QB and can change games. Fits with the wildcat too…….

by Travis 'Undadogg' Davis on Apr 21, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

This is awful I hate to say!!!

Bill Stull, QB, Pitt is the only pick that I see that I like. I belive that we can go and get a QB late and he would be a good fit. Other than that Decker? Come on! We need to draft a WR with the right combo of size and speed like Carlton Mitchell (Check him out). After that we need some OL and DL depth.

by bigblackcatfan on Apr 22, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering Decker and Mitchell are listed as having a 2 lb difference in size (which goes to Decker), and have 40 times less than a tenth of a second apart (which goes to Mitchell), I’m not sure I see the difference there in choosing the right combo or size and speed?

My (Hopeful) Panther Draft: (2) DE Corey Wootton - (3) Akwasi Owush-Ansah - (4) OLB/DE Eric Norwood - (6) WR Marcus Easley - (6) WR David Gettis - (6) DT Nick Collins - (7) CB Jamar Wall - (7) QB Armanti Edwards

by D-Ranged1 on Apr 22, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the picks

Hurney has taken some pretty out there picks and come out ahead on some of them. I have a feeling a LB falls to us in the 2nd. I would also really love to get Al Verner from UCLA in the 4th, there is a reason he didn’t have high numbers last year, no one wanted to throw to his side of the field. If they did, the passes were usually broken up and picked off by the safety, who just happened to lead the NCAA’s in INT’s.

by oklahomapanther on Apr 23, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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