Panthers Offseason Game Changing Moves
by Jaxon on Apr 18, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
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The first big move of the offseason was easy. The release of long time and fan favorite QB Jake Delhomme was a bit of shock. What wasn't a shock is the motive for the move, the elevation of back-up QB Matt Moore to starter. Moore went 4-1 down the stretch for the Panthers last season in relief of an injured Delhomme. In fact he played well enough to given us confidence the kid is ready for the 'keys to caddy'.
More after the jump...
Moore so far has been fairly good at what Delhomme struggled at last season; protecting the ball. Delhomme threw 18 INT's in 11 starts last season. Moore threw two in 5 starts. Before you call it coincidence considered Moore was very good at avoiding INT's in college as well. Moore is very good at knowing the zone in which to throw a ball, the zone that allows hsi receiver to catch ball and if they don't avoid the INT. Moore also has a fairly quick release and with his size (6'3") and strong arm doesn't have a problem getting the ball en route.
Moore isn't without his issues. He needs to improve his pocket awareness and learn to not stare down his receiver. All young QB's struggle with learning progressions and looking off the safety. Moore also doesn't bring the fire a Jake Delhomme brings, but he does exude confidence even after taking a hit. I'd like to see him put on a little weight strength-wise to insure he can take the pounding of a full season. Most importantly OC Jeff Davidson needs to design a game plan that plays to this kids strengths. What exactly that is I'm not sure but hey, Davidson gets paid the bigs bucks to figure that out. Maybe its similar to what Delhomme ran but let's hope we get the ingenuity from Davidson we were hoping for when he came over.
Now watch this video and see the kids potential yourself. I think his best pass of the season was the TD to Jarrett because it was right on the money in tight coverage. It was the kind of play to get excited about, not just for Moore but for Jarrett as well.
Another thought I had from watching this video is I think Moore sells the play-action well too. Sure it helps when you have a great running game that forces the defense to respect the run, but he does a good job on the fakes.
It was a bold off-season move the Panthers made in releasing Delhomme and handing the job over to Matt Moore. But was it a risky move? I don't think so after watching these highlights.
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You just really put me in the mood for football...too bad there is none :(
Ah well, the draft is in a few days.
Best throw was the one to Smitty at the end. It was spot on perfect. Love this guy.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
The Truth indeed.
It was a bold move, but definitely not risky. I for one am not worried about Moore, he’s been waiting for this for years.
All the completions in the video were dropbacks, some off play action...
…but another strong feature of Moore’s game is his ability to roll out and throw on the run. The Panthers gained many times on that variation, and it makes it much tougher on the defense, than simply throwing from a static pocket, to which Jake was restricted.
He also ran for a first down a few times, when the opportunity presented itself.
He showed a soft touch on passes. lobbing to Jarrett and Moose for FD’s, and threw tight spirals with velocity, when it was called for.
The only thing he needs to improve is how he starts the game, as most starts he had, he didn;t get the feel of the game til his 3rd or 4th pass.
One thing I got from the videos was that I don’t see how it could hurt to have Moose back another year, as he’s still a marvelously conditioned athlete, who knows how to get open against a zone, and how to gain YAC. He could certainly help in mentoring the draft choice WR’s we expect to bring in.
by bigdavis on Apr 19, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We'll see some decisions on FA's after the draft
and the Panthers see what holes remain to be filled
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Yes indeed
Moose appeared to show plenty of athleticism in those highlights. There is still a possibility we bring him back.
If the Panthers aren't happy with the WR corps after the draft
he’ll be back. Mark my words. I think he is still a serviceable reciever, and his blocking is key.
by jojoisthemann on Apr 19, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Man
I just watched a couple of his highlights on youtube…and the game against the vikings…that throw to Barnidge…on the run…split second before he gets rocked right in the face…he throws a perfect ball downfield.
Moose did look great too. I can’t wait to see what Jarret can do. I know Barnidge is going to be a beast(hpw about that yac?). I’ve been high on him since he got here. I wouldn’t mind having moose around for atleast one more season. Let him run block and be a 1st and 2nd down guy.
But man does Matt not show some great QB play. Delivers the ball on the spot. Hits guys in stride. Throws a nice fade. Throws well on the run. Just looks great. If he can just getg rid of those jitters before the game starts he is going to be a monster.
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 19, 2010 1:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That Barnidge completion is my favorite highlight
especially if you watch the one that gives the NBC feed, where Al Michaels has no clue what to say…
“and it’s caught and he’s … breaking tackles … and headed to the endzone … and tackled at the 5 yard line … it’s Gary BARNidge…”
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
lol no i havent heard it but im gonna look.
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 19, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
to me, the funniest part is how he says gary barnidge...
based on the inflection in his voice you can just see him with a “who the hell is that guy” look on his face.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
i cant find it
But I was getting that from reading ur comment
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 19, 2010 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's a link to the video...
It’s on NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81523594/WK-15-Matt-Moore-highlights
(the Barnidge part is at the 3:00 mark)
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
I can’t watch flash videos on my phone :(
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 19, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Selling the fake...
I admit I was even fooled a few times with the fake by Moore.
I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it.
You know, now that we bring it up, that's another + over what Jake offered.
Jake would make a token fake handoff, but it hardly ever fooled anybody. Moore at least gives it some credibility, and if all it gives him is a split-second hesitation from the LB’s, that’s a huge advantage to the WR’s running their routes over the middle.
But I’ll say once again that the single factor that will help Moore become an elite QB is his quick release. He rarely – only on long-developing deep routes – has the ball in his hand more than 3-3.5 seconds after getting the snap.
+1
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
He seems to do several things well.
One weakness appears to be his delivery on short passes. The TD to Jeff King in the video is a good example — a five-yarder that almost hit the ground.
yeah but give him some credit - he was moving away from the target when he threw...
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
+2
I noticed that too. Even on that deep go route, his throwing motion is FAST. I was impressed too at his arm strength. I didn’t see a lot of those deep throws where he really had to drop his shoulder. Seems like he can keep his shoulders parallel to the ground (for lack of a better description) and make the throw.
by The Duke Dude on Apr 19, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was fooled by a Jake fake several times.
It was almost as good as his Jake Shake-N-Bake. ;)
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Apr 20, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Osi Umenyiora a Panther?
I heard they are one of 3 teams trying to get him. But they wan’t a 2nd round pick… which would be fine if we had a 1st round pick to use on a WR. But not being able to get a WR until the 3rd is scary. What say you?
Otherwise known as SouthTunnel. Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
So you'd rather take a gamble on a 2nd rounder then take proven player?
Not me. I’d trade a 3rd + another pick, or even a 2nd IF we had a 1st or another 2nd.
Otherwise known as SouthTunnel. Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
you sure he can return to form?
a 2nd round pick could land the next Kris Jenkins or Steve Smith
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I'd hope for more than a Kris Jenkins...
Kris had 40 tackles and 5 sacks per year before the 2 lost seasons, and came back with 40 and 2 before being traded. Osi had 44 and 8, and hasnt been hurt. Tom Coughlin has a knack for alienating player, so I think Osi doesn’t have to return to form, he just needs to play for a team that appreciates his talent. If NYG wants to part with him for a 3rd or 4th, or even a 2nd, we should jump on that like Ben does a helpless 20 year old.
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"I don't think we should be doing this."
“It’s okay.”
Wouldn't the question be.....
Is there a DE at pick 48 better than Osi? I think the answer to that is no. We konw that we either have to go DE or WR at number 48, the question then becomes would you rather have a proven pro or a rookie that may or may not pan out. There will still be viable WR’s left in the draft in the 3rd and maybe even the 4th with an option to bring back Moose as folks were talking about earlier. Giving pick 48 for Osi might not be that bad of an idea.
I agree
Last year was an off year for him, he didn’t get as much playing time as he wanted and still turned up 7 sacks. We won’t be able to draft a guy who can get 7 sacks in 2010. Plus Osi is way better than that. He has been labeled a bit of a headcase… But I compare him to Bobcat’s Tyrus Thomas… he’s only a problem because he’s not getting playing time. Playing time won’t be an issue here.
Osi + Brown with Johnson 1st off the bench sounds really nice. Still need a DT though.
Otherwise known as SouthTunnel. Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
You want to know why he didn't get as much PT?
He was benched. 4th rounder, he’s a pass rusher only.
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Apr 20, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s a thread on this in case you don’t know.
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is a little off the subject...
BUT HOW TOUGH IS STEVE SMITH?
(2:13 in the video)
He gets a solid helmet to forearm hit, and his forearm snaps. He still runs over a tackler to get in the endzone. Pushes himself up with the broken arm. Barely flinches when a team-mate grabs his forearm. And runs off the field like a MAN!!!!
If everyone in the NFL played with Smitty’s passion and competitiveness, there would be 45 concussions per game.
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Never off topic to praise Smith, IMO
He’s got a champion’s attitude. Hope we can get him one in the next few years.
That is one of the toughest plays I've seen in almost 30 years of watching the NFL
He knew it was broke but got up and walked jogged off the field.
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I honestly believe had we been in playoff contention, he'd have went back out there
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
All the while beating his chest with the other hand…beast
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Apr 20, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Moose
If nothing else that video makes me want them to pick moose back up even more :(
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