Panthers' fans: The sky is not falling
Being a fan of the Carolina Panthers is akin to being in a relationship with someone you can never quite figure out. They always intrigue you, they always excite you, but more often than not they leave you scratching your head wondering if maybe you're just not smart enough to get where they're coming from.
It's easy to root for the basic tenets of what this organization stands for: honor, integrity and hard work. It's these core beliefs instilled by Jerry Richardson that have produced tough, blue collar, high character players who more often than not have a heavy heart when they leave the organization.
Sadly, in the last few days we have had a good many players leave Charlotte with that same lump in their chests; Twitters aflutter, tearful farewells and odes to fond memories. As much as a fan believes in the black and teal it's tough to say goodbye to players who donned the Panthers' jersey with pride and played the right way, the Carolina Panther way.
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None of us truly know what 2010 brings for the organization. The pure fact that at the time of this writing over one hundred and thirty comments were posted regarding the state of the team, and the leaving of Brad Hoover shows the passion that Carolina Panther fans have for their team, and their players. We all sit back and watch as the stories unfold:"How did we cut him?"
"Why are we getting rid of him?"
"Why are the Panthers so obsessed with getting so young?"
These feelings are exacerbated by a fan base who truly believed we were on the brink of something very, very special for the 2010 season. Dominant wins against some of the league's elite towards the end of the 2009 campaign had numerous fans prematurely considering a possible Superbowl birth for the 2010 Panthers; and with each of these transactions it appears we are getting further, and further away from this dream.
I am here to tell you it's not the end of the world, it's not the end of the Panthers season... this is only the beginning.
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The 2010 Carolina Panthers' nucleus may be very, very young... but that doesn't mean they wont embody those same characteristics the Big Cat expects from his Carolina Panthers- honor, integrity and hard work.
Too often the term 'rebuilding' is thrown around with any team daring to shed veterans, or retool a certain position. It is this term 'rebuilding' which I believe is being prematurely applied to the 2010 Carolina Panthers. It appears that in some fans' minds the team has already made the concession that 2010 will be a wash, a throw away season, one without hope. These same fans were the ones I chose to target when I self appointed the moniker 'CSR's resident optimist'.
I saw a fan base the beginning of 2009 utterly disillusioned and without hope. I saw all over the blogosphere and media threatening to leave to become a fan of 'Team X' or 'Organization Y' unless the Panthers kowtowed to the conditions they put forth; most often entailing firing coaches, benching players or signing other stars. The Panthers bided their time before pulling the trigger on these moves and slowly, but surely clawed their way back. Optimism was briefly restored to the Carolina Panthers' fan base saw the hope of success, and the possibility of a trip to the promised land. Sadly, the Panthers were a couple of plays and a few minutes too short from achieving this goal, they waited perhaps just a week or two too long to pull the trigger.
Now I see an organization not willing to wait those extra couple of weeks to pull the trigger. They're making the tough decisions now; before the draft, before training camp and before preseason. The 2010 Panthers are young, but they're also hungry. The last time I saw a group of young, hungry and unproven Carolina Panthers was in 2003 and they became our Cardiac Cats.
What some see as merely a cap dump and rebuild I see as a streamlining. I see an offense being turned over to one of the most promising young quarterbacks in the NFL, I see the greatest RB tandem ever to grace an NFL field, I see a WR with a chip on his shoulder bigger than any stadium can contain and I see an offensive line- resolute and strong, rich with Pro Bowlers and promise.
I see a defense that is being molded in our sophomore DC's image, I see the best linebacker in the NFL, I see one of the most dangerous OLBs in the NFC and a secondary full of players dying to make a play. Will the defense look different? Absolutely, it's being polished every day. However, I learnt something while watching the 2009 Panthers play; we have a tactician at defensive coordinator that I haven't seen the Panthers have in the past. A man unafraid to change the defensive scheme to shake things up, and I see a coach who went from being met with skepticism to embraced with open arms; "In Ron I trust."
To Jake, Hoov, Rhys, D-Lew, Na'il, Kemo and Landon- we thank you from the bottom of our hearts for playing the right way and being true Carolina Panthers, for embodying that spirit. We wish you nothing but the best and will hope you succeed wherever you go in the NFL or beyond, but with a heavy heart we as a fan base need to move on too.
I trust in this organization and this front office to continue to supply us with a product on the field on Sundays we can be proud of, win or lose. Not because they'll always succeed, but because we know that they'll always give it 110% and be true Carolina Panthers.
I trust in the current scouts and coaches who have given the Carolina Panthers nine Pro Bowlers in ten drafts. Think about that for a moment... the Panthers have had a different player reach the Pro Bowl each year for the last decade, all of whom were drafted by the Panthers in that same time period (DeAngelo Williams, Kris Jenkins, Julius Peppers, Kyan Kalil, Jordan Gross, Steve Smith, Dan Morgan, Mike Rucker, Jon Beason); and yet we doubt their ability to evaluate young talent now, why is that?
So, Panther faithful don't dwell in the cuts and hardships brought on by retooling or modification. I hereby declare that we stop calling 2010 a 'rebuilding year' and instead look at it like the Panthers' front office is looking at it: 2010 marks an evolution. Just as they evolved and improved in 2009 so this 2010 team will fulfill their true potential; and I have no doubt they will achieve this as long as each and every player embodies the Big Cats' three basic tenets: honor, integrity and hard work.
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Awesome post.
For rizzle.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Consider this post Rec'd
Great job James – very nice way to put things into perspective.
Draft Gilyard!
OMG THE PANTHERS SIGNED A PLAYER!
Wallace Wright of the New York Jets! He’s a wideout!
The Panthers live! They’re alive! WOOT! =D =D =D
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Per Gantt this is actually a pretty good move.
Seriously (this time), Wright’s a big-time special teamer. Gunner on punts. That means they’ve found Dante Wesley’s replacement.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 8, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
funny quote from Gantt (he's becoming quite the comedian btw)
“Needed some last 3-4 years. Crossman just kicked his dog. RT @skippapotamus needed a guy like Wright badly. had 70 ST tackles last 4 years "
Great post James
I feel the same way (but could never have expressed it like you have!)
Awesome job!
Thanks for the post!
This has made me feel much better about the past week, and especially today. Losing Hoov really stung.
Why don't we address whether or not you can win without spending money?
You guys all were saying the best reason to let Pep go was so that we could use his salary to make our team better at multiple positions. Now Pep’s gone along with most other veterans making over a million, and the story’s changed. Now all a team needs to be great is young, cheap talent.
If over the next couple months we sign guys that are more capable as the guys that left, then we’ll have reason for optimism. But why do we have to pretend to be all geeked out before any moves have even been made?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
"Why don't we address whether or not you can win without spending money?"
2008 NFL Playoffs
AFC
- Miami Dolphins: 15th highest salary
- Indianapolis Colts: 29th highest salary
- San Diego Chargers: 19th highest salary
- Pittsburgh Steelers: 6th highest salary
- Baltimore Ravens: 31st highest salary
- Tennessee Titans: 7th highest salary
NFC
- Carolina Panthers: 17th ranked salary
- Minnesota Vikings: 3rd ranked salary
- Arizona Cardinals: 8th ranked salary
- Atlanta Falcons: 25th ranked salary
- Philadelphia Eagles: 21st ranked salary
- NY Giants: 14th ranked salary
Average salary ranking of an NFL Playoff team in 2008: 16.25
Here are the top 10 highest salaries of that same year:
- Oakland
- Dallas
- Minnesota
- Cleveland
- New Orleans
- Pittsburgh
- Tennessee
- Arizona
- Jacksonville
- Chicago
One third of the available playoff spots in 2008 went to a team with one of the 10 highest payrolls in the NFL.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 8, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, you win that one
Of course we are probably below 2008’s minimum. Would you like to show how teams in sports that have no caps, like MLB, that do not spend money fare?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No contest
But we’re not talking about a situation where all the teams are dealing with the assumption there is no cap long term, all the teams in the NFL (bar Chicago) are acting as if a cap will be reinstated in the near future.
If they weren’t under this assumption the NY Giants, NY Jets, Dallas and Washington would have every single free agent under contract by now, which hasn’t occurred- even for the spend happy Synder and Jones.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 8, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Which is probably because they know a lockouts coming
Jones has to worry about that shiny new stadium sitting vacant on Sunday’s for a year. You got to at least admit that it looks like a lockout when guys who are usually willing to spend, aren’t.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Possibly, and if there is a lockout that further supports the Panthers' decision not to go big in free agency
If there’s a lockout Chicago will have fun paying Peppers $14.5 million for nothing.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 8, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt they get payed during a lockout
The union would never cave if they got paid to do nothing. I think the purpose of letting vets go is so that we are accumulating guys who will be getting too old once any lockout is over. Again, smart in the long term, but tough on 2010.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
The do
The guaranteed money in a contract needs to be paid if there is a season or not. They wont need to pay his salary, but they will be forced to pay him the $14.5 mil guaranteed.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 9, 2010 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
Knowing how these two sides roll...
there will be a lock-out. Neither side will give in until it comes to that. Sad but true…the people making the decisions all make so much money losing part of season won’t make a difference to them.
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the NFL can also survive without big market teams suceeding
dont get me wrong i love baseball, i dont miss a braves game and i curse the yankees, mets, the redsox, and any other northern big market team with a lot of money to spend. But the MLB would not survive without those teams suceeding.
by carolinabrave89 on Mar 8, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
2008 Tampa Bay Rays
Also, the Florida Marlins have won 2 World Series championships, and are notorious for being of the cheapskate variety.
Draft Gilyard!
southtunnel
Let me guess… your favorite charactor as a child was Eeyore. You are Eeyore to the hilt! Really, anything he posts, read it as if Eeyore is posting it himself.
James..
What a fantastic post. Rec’d. You put it perfectly, as usual. I definitely see this as a good thing. Not because we’re losing our beloved veterans but because, as you put it, we’re evolving. A new team for a new decade.
A sucker punch by any other name would sting as much...
James,
Thanks for such a well-written article. Try as I might, I can’t move on as easily as most. If you look up the definition of “honor, integrity and hard work” in the dictionary you will find Jake’s and Brad’s pictures. A heck of a lot of good it did them. Jake would have been thrilled to remain as back-up. I’m sure money would not have been an issue for him and he would have been willing to re-negotiate. Brad had one lousy year on his contract and then he would have retired. They were both sucker punched. So much for “honor, integrity and hard work.” Shame on you, Mr. Richardson. You are not the man I thought you were.
One question..
Which I’ve been pondering lately myself.. It has been brought up here a few times as well, I believe..
Do you honestly think Jake would rather renegotiate his contract here and play a cheap back-up than start on another team in the NFL? Assuming 2009 is an exception for his career, Jake could still be a starting QB somewhere. Why hold him back here, as great a back-up as he’d be? He had a bad year and while I wouldn’t start him over Moore unless Moore played terribly the first few games next year, I do believe he’d be a great starter for another team in the NFL, like he was for us when he first came here. Jake’s time as a Panther may be over but I highly doubt that his NFL career is. It’s time both parties move on and let him experience success elsewhere rather than be stuck a back-up here. We will miss him and I’m sure he will miss us but sometimes change is for the best.
I can’t speak about Hoover, I’m still digesting his scenario.
Answer to your question...
I guess the big question is whether or not 2009 was an exception for Jake. Since that question can’t be answered right now, do you think any team would take him on as a starter? I just assumed that the only chance he would have would be as a back-up somewhere else. In any event, he certainly didn’t deserve to be blindsided or thrown out in the cold w/o discussing options. I was always proud of the fact that ours was a “stand-up” organization. I don’t know who we are right now.
Thanks for welcoming me to the blog!
by peacefulpanther on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
Without looking too much into it, places such as Arizona, St. Louis, and Oakland come to mind. How ironic would it be to see Jake in Arizona? I think he’d beat Leinart out for the starting position. Jake might could help turn Oakland around too, if there’s any helping them. St. Louis seems like a good option while they groom their draft pick (assuming they go QB). Can’t really think of any others off the top of my head.
I think Jake could make a come back.. Like he said in the PC, he was trying not to make a mistake.. Changing the scenery might give him a fresh enough start that he can go out there and sling it like he’s used to doing.
NOT OAKLAND
Jake doesn’t deserve the purgatory that is OAKLAND….AAAAAHHHHHHH!
Yes, I see how Jake could be a good fit for the teams you mention. I’d love to see him go somewhere where he could make a difference and regain his self-esteem.
Still, I’m afraid to pick up the paper tomorrow and find out who else we lost.
I hear that.
I had thought I had a pretty good idea of who was “safe” and who was questionable but with the release of Hoover, I’m really not too sure.
Buffalo is another team where starting could be possibility for Jake
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by James The Aussie on Mar 9, 2010 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think that's where he would end up
Either Buffalo or St. Louis – I just can’t see him wanting to go to Oakland and worry about what Al Davis will say and do – too much of a distraction for a guy trying to get that last bit of toothpaste out of the bottle in his career.
Draft Gilyard!
So far, all of the releases have been appropriate…
Delhomme – released to lock Moore into the #1 qb slot…
Kemo – too much uncertainty about whether he’s fit from his achilles…
Hoov – Sure, he’s a workhorse… but how many games did he miss last year for his back spasms? He’s close to retirement.
And the rest? Stellar top notch players? No… they’re journeymen and can be replaced.
Does it suck to see them go? Yes. Will the team be better with replacements? I certainly hope so. Ron Meeks is starting to work his magic to make the defense HIS… can’t say the same thing about Davidson… he’s too suspect in his playcalling.
Are we becoming the Marlins of the NFL?
Business decisions weigh out over football decisions…never go after the top FA’s because of money…trade away our first round picks so we don’t have to pay the 1st round money…always in the bottom third of total salary…let our marque draft picks walk because we don’t want to pay them top $…as all this sinks in I’m not feeling good about this franchise. Business decisions are cold and favor only those at the top…never considering the fan in the seats…yes, not having a good day.
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Apparently with Jake also goes our desire to compete...?
Not sure I follow. But F that with a capital umm, F!
Look at Meeks defense in Indy. They were successful with only a couple big-name guys (Freeney and Sanders [when healthy]).. We have enough ballers on ‘D’ that can get the ball back into the hands of double trouble, whereupon the beasting shall commence.
Let us not fear this transition. It was several years overdue…aside from the Hoover move; bad move considering the minimal financial ramifications.
Do or do not. There is no try.
disagree
I disagree because of the money paid to Jake and Pep last year, and the contract Gross received. We paid a lot of money (almost 30 million to Jake and Pep), and it didn’t bring in wins. Pep did well at times and made the Pro Bowl, but that was it. It’s good business to cut liabilities, and good football to cut guys who aren’t performing at the level they are paid to.
by usana_gaines on Mar 9, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I think we’re seeing these tough moves now so the team has the money they need to make the commitments to Beason, Matt Moore, DeAngelo Williams and/or Jonathan Stewart.
If you truly saw a team behaving like the Florida Marlins we’d be trading Steve Smith, trading Jordan Gross for no other reason than their salaries. We’re not seeing that from the Panthers.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 9, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Marshall
at the same time though…why are we dangling such a talent like richard marshall out there…he is worth more than a 2nd rounder in my opinion…I’m getting a lot of mixed signals from these moves…
by SouthernPanther on Mar 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
It is a calculated risk with marshall
Let us not forget that in 2002, when we were 2nd in total defense while playing a similar cover 2 scheme, our corners were Reggie Howard and Terry Cousin—not exactly superstars. I guess they feel like corner is not as premier a position as it may be in another system.
Do or do not. There is no try.
by ERL on Mar 9, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Then again
how much interest has Marshall gotten?
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Mar 10, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah and Captain is adaquate as a Cover 2 guy
Where you need to be able to tackle and support the run. Not that I don’t want to see Marshall back, cause I do.
Do or do not. There is no try.
The beginning of free agency is mainly for the high profile guys
Guys like Marshall start to go after a couple weeks. Make no mistake, he’ll be on the top of that list.
Otherwise known as SouthTunnel. Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
A.J. Feeley and Wallace Wright were pretty high profile guys.
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Mar 11, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
You guys love to be over technical
I didn’t say it was an act of Congress, punishable only by death. There’s always exceptions. But for the most part, the big names go first, and the really active teams in this period usually overpay. The other guys get picked off later, at much better value.
Point is that just because nobody grabbed Marshall in the first 2 weeks, means nothing… there is still a ton of time left.
Otherwise known as SouthTunnel. Change is inevitable - except from a vending machine.
It shows that Marshall isn't a high profile guy
meaning his second round tender was more indicative of his true value than we thought. Which means any offer that comes around is likely within our price range.
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Mar 12, 2010 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
There's certainly no denying our FO is taking a hardline fiscal approach here at the moment....
but the The Marlins comparison doesn’t work for me either, for the reasons James cited above. I think (and hope) this has more to do with putting the organization in position to retain what they feel is an abundance of core talent that will carry the team into the future. I take some solace in the fact the FO has been drafting players to fill the vacancies left by these cuts. I just hope our young guys are ready to step up this season and do the job they were brought in to do. One thing’s for sure, we’re definitely gonna find out how good our last two drafts were.
I still have very high hopes and expectations for the 2010-11 season.
It's actually a good idea to do this...
That way we know if we should spend the money on retaining guys we’ve recently drafted for the long term.
I’m with you – I still am optimistic about next season.
Draft Gilyard!
I'm both optimistic and excited about 2010
We get to see what Matt Moore can do for a full season
We get to see if Dan Connor can step up at OLB
We get to see if Everette Brown can be the pass rusher I think he can be
We get to see if Tony Fiamatta is the fearsome blocker he was touted to be
We get to see if Dwayne Jarrett can evolve into an NFL receiver
It’s alot of question marks and unsurity, but at least we all get alot of our curiosities satiated.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 9, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To get this stuff sorted out is what we have been clamoring for
rec’d
Do or do not. There is no try.
I am excited about these changes because it is something new and we get to see what some of the young guys can do. Hopefully they won’t disappoint.
All these moves are generally exciting, but I am a little disappointed by the intent behind these moves. They were moves made where I don’t think the team’s best interest was at the forefront, but instead was made with Jerry Richardson having his NFL hat on. Darin Gantt said something similar on Twitter, that JR had his NFL hat on.
I don’t dislike the moves, don’t get me wrong, but I also can’t get past the intent of these moves, I just don’t know if they were done with the Panthers long-term best interests in mind…even though if some of the moves pan out, they will have helped the long term interests of the Panthers.
Question
Would you rather have all these guys we just cut, or Thomas Davis? I know it doesn’t HAVE to be on or the other—things are not that black and white, but that it the way we have to look at these moves.
Do or do not. There is no try.
I can look at it this way, but the Hoover cut doesn’t really make sense since he was still playing at a high level and wasn’t that expensive. That cut really threw me for a loop.
Yeah that one was kinda quesitonable
I think you have to take into account his injuries. Perhaps management thought he would not make it through another season…?
Do or do not. There is no try.
by ERL on Mar 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I can see why they would think that, I really do, but they carried two FB’s this year so I would think they could do that again. Especially with Lloyd gone and an “extra” roster spot open. I am just afraid Jerry Richardson is less concerned with keeping a competitive team on the field and more concerned with getting ready for a lockout and setting an example for other owners to follow in bunkering down.
For a guy who is a great business man, I don’t see why Richardson would reduce the quality of his business like he has. The Panthers do need to sign the younger players, it’s the intent that I am afraid I don’t like. I think these moves were made not for that reason, but to be a good NFL owner.
I think its both, to a degree
Do or do not. There is no try.
by ERL on Mar 9, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
See, I don’t think it is both. I think it is a compliment to Hurney and Fox ’s ability to spot talent we just happened to have good backups at these positions. I am a little perturbed these are non-football related moves. The Panthers may have a great season and it all may work out.
The sky is not falling or anything. I just don’t like how it seems the focus has gone from putting a good team on the field to preparing for the lockout. The Panthers are really the only team taking such extreme measures to cut payroll and I think Richardson is setting an example for other owners to follow. I don’t think I like why these moves were made.
These young players will develop into better players than the vets we cut, IMO
It may not be in 2010, but ultimately we will be a better team. Owners cannot afford to run a team by putting all their eggs in every upcoming season.
Do or do not. There is no try.
Most excited
Im most excited for Fiametta and Everette Brown.
Tony made some mistakes in some games last season
but im eager to see if he can equal or better hoover. :)
I think Fiametta can be just as good as Hoover, eventually.
But I highly doubt he replaces Hoover flawlessly this season. I think he’ll be “good enough” though, and we will still be running over defenses.

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