The cuts and moves of the 2010 offseason. Open thread
by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM EST
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It seems today is the day the Panthers are cleaning house, and we'll see alot of players leaving the Panthers. Rather than continually posting new stories to the front page let's use this post to put down all the information as it breaks regarding the Panthers roster cuts this afternoon, and we can continue the conversation here.
A look at who's gone so far after the jump
Cut
LB Na'il Diggs
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Likely cut
K Rhys Lloyd- Per Lloyd's Twitter: "As of righ now a panthers deal is not in the future. Shame really."
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Signing
DT Ed Johnson
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Trade
None at this time
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Future home of former Panthers
DE Julius Peppers- Should sign with Chicago Bears later today, per ESPN's Adam Schefter.
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Good call on the open thread
things are just crazy…the whole draft scenario has changed. Now we know we are going to get another QB, either FA (my guess) or a rookie, or both!
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I feel that we will draft a rookie QB
and sign someone like Jon Kitna for a year to be the backup
but, we still have Cantwell who could be our #3, so I don’t know what we will do.
Draft Gilyard!
Signed
DT Ed Johnson.
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM EST reply actions
Good call
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
If we're not retaining Lloyd
does this mean we will draft/sign a KOS or will we just settle for no touchbacks this season?
Draft Gilyard!
Likely draft. A rookie would make the minimum of $320k… Lloyd was making $750k
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
actually, probably sign a rookie FA that didn't get drafted
Why use a pick?
Yeah, that’s what I meant. It will likely be an undrafted rookie at the NFL minimum of $320k.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
We've got a good track record with them too.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Mar 6, 2010 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
Planning ahead (posted on fanshot excuse redundancy)
Considering the cap in 2011 (I’m gonna assume there will not be a lockout) might go back down to 107-110 million, and considering that all these players we’ve just tendered will be unrestricted free agents next offseason, it comes as little suprise that they are trimming lopsided salaries. Let us not be discouraged by these cuts now because they are essentially paving the way for Davis, Marshall, Moore, and Leonard to be in Carolina longer than one more season.
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Good point
I would like to see those guys for more than one season – so I hope that’s the direction we’re going with these cuts
Draft Gilyard!
Lockout?
As a guess things are lining up for a lockout but I think it is really a youth movement. This is an incredibly deep draft. My feel is that they are just restructuring the defense to fit Meeks philosophy towards speed. Also 2011 finances line up better with this philosophy.
I hated the Colts D
I know they drafted O for so many years but the D just got washed against the run. So when we got Meeks I was worried about our D.:(
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping
Meeks+ Fox (Defensive minded)=dominant D
That’s my hope, anyways. But we are going to have to add some talent after this recent round of cuts.
by GoodOl'NorthState on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I hope!
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
ESPN has a constantly updating Free Agency blog
Looks like it is going to deal mostly with signings of the major variety, but it is being updated regularaly…
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/tag/_/name/free-agency-2010
I’m furiously updating my twitter too
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Bearulson(???)
He was signed by the Lions.:(
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST reply actions
Schefter's tweet cracked me up
Jim Schwartz and Kyle Vanden Bosch drank wine all night, leading colleague Josh Elliott to say that when KVD awoke, he asked, “I did what?!”
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Epic!
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Mar 6, 2010 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
Something
I learned on the bears board… if a comment gets 4 rec’s then it will be permanently highlighted green and everyone who reads the thread will see it…
so instead of just +1, or like hit it up w/ some recs!
by ClaytonFire on Mar 6, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vanden Bosch
4 years, $26 million
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Quote from the Fox/Hurney presser:
Salient part of Fox/Hurney presser: "The decision was made early that Moore would be the starter, that sparked decision to cut Delhomme. "
per Darin Gantt
Also from presser:
I didn’t realize there was crying involved—
by GoodOl'NorthState on Mar 5, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Reading some of those morons comments in the ‘discussion’ section makes me so thankful we have CSR.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
...
anyone else having problems with espn articles…i can’t open headlines from the main page…
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Who do you think we'll sign?
I’m not sure.:(
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions
Robert Mathis is on my radar big time.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
He said last night that he expects the Colts will release him.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Same reason we cut our vets
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
nah
mathis won’t get that kind cash…probly 5-6mil
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah!
But then we’ll be washed on the run.:)
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Dare I say it? OK f'it
Rebuilding year?
What are your expectations gang?
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10-6
We are still pretty good.:)
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
depends on what you consider rebuilding.
If you are talking Lions or Rams style rebuilding. Hell No. I think we will still have a very competitive… albeit young team.
Rebuilding in the sense of a total youth takeover? maybe so.
Our defensive line, anyway...no, not on the level of those ragamuffins
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Yeah our D-Line
Will either be great or suck!
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like "unproven" is the word of the day as it pertains to our d-line
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12-4
we win it all. give me a reason why not?
Aside from all the releases...
Lets Review what we do have:
Matt Moore at QB, Smitty, DOUBLE TROUBLE!!!, A great o-line, Jon Beason, Thomas Davis, Chris Harris, Chris Gamble, Richard Marshall (for now), and a lot of youth…
Things are still looking pretty bright…
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, it was due I suppose
Fox must be off the reserve cutting all these vets loose.
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Those were JR and Hurney decisions
This one from Hurney cracked me up:
Hurney: “Sometimes you have to force yourself to give (young) guys that opportunity and that experience.”
’Yourself". Hurney you meant you have to cut a vet to get Fox to stop starting him!
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lol
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I want
To find some way to trade up into the 1st get some good O and then D LINE!
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
If Bears get Peppers they should be excited.
He can get 10 sacks in two games against the Lions and hybernate the rest of the season.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions
I'll be here all night... and I have plenty more.
The Cubs will ask him to throw out the first pitch, but then he’ll say he didn’t think their offer was sincere becasue it was only slightly earlier than the White Sox asked him.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Because the Bears heard ‘Carl Carey’ and thought ‘Harry Carey’.
Julius is the most dense thing to hit Chcago since deep dish pizza.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Lovie Smith is supposed to have lunch in Chicago today with Peppers
But Julius isn’t ready to commit to deep dish pizza, because he isn’t sure that lunch will have reached its full potential.
And god help that waitress...
Because if she doesn’t maintain constant contact with him after bringing him his food he might cry about how he was neglected, and that the pizza parlor “didnt really want him”
ha ha ha ha ha... great
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
YESSS
i really hope he signs with chicago…a horrible team that comes to carolina next season!!! I can’t wait to hear the boos that pepper’s gets when he gets back to carolina.
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Morganing their future on overblown, overvalued commodities
Sounds like the housing market.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
The Bears? I thought he was going to the Bulls!
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atleast in chicago...
…the spotlight won’t be on peppers. They have the cubs…o wait…the cubs suck. Well atleast they have the Bulls…o wait…they suck. Well atleast Cutler is there….o wait…Cutler sucks. Well atleast they have Brian Urlacher…o wait…he sucks too. I guess the Blackhawks in all of the NHL’s glory will take the spotlight off of Pep…
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
bah-dum-chiii
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by Flowing Willow on Mar 6, 2010 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
inflated numbers
he is gonna have ridiculous numbers. The NFC North has a plethora of TERRIBLE offensive lines. The lines are possibly the worst in the league, the packers (we all know their line struggles), and the viks have a pretty good line but we all saw what pep did to bryant mckinnie.
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Carl Carey rushed to change them just to keep him in Minnesota
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's fine...if they make the playoffs he will disappear
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packers
allen got 7.5 sacks against the pack last year, pep is gonna beat that record, and get 5 vs. the vikes. he could get 15 sacks just in division games.
yeah but that's like being the skinniest kid at fat camp
the NFC North isn’t exactly the haven for stud offensive linemen
Draft Gilyard!
Yeah same
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
If James is right and Robert Mathis is released
That’s a no-brainer. Our pass-rush must improve in this QB driven league. Aside from Mathis, I’d like to see us find a way to trade up and pick Dan Williams from Tenn. Other than our D-line we are set, IMO. Another receiver is icing on the cake, as Moore looked pretty darn good against playoff caliber teams late in the season—with the receiver we have.
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To get my thoughts on our WR draft option.
Seriously – a WR in the 2nd-3rd round is all we need. Moore should be fine with what we have now, he was down the stretch last season.
Draft Gilyard!
Dansby
Mathis and then maybe a WR and DT like Williams.
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ideally?
I still want Bryant and Kampmann via free agency. That’s probably not realistic at all though.
Or!
Mathis and Kampman.0_o
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Jeff King/Dante Rosario are nice and all,
but if Greg Olsen is in fact available would you go after him?
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like Barnidge, too
Given another year to develop I think he could be very productive for us. Moore, as a young, careful QB, will look more to his TEs than Jake ever did.
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That's the thing though
if he’s looking for his TE, isn’t Olsen the best offensive option?
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Yeah my comment wasn't really about Olsen, sorry
just pointing out that I like Barnidge. The Olsen thing won’t happen, IMO.
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was just thinking out loud.
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Same opinion I have on every potential acquisiton.
If the price is right, then go for it.
No
Olsen can’t block to save his life.
He could be a worse blocker than Rosario, and that alone makes it a no for me.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted Olsen so if the price
Is right.
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Makes me mad
Im so tired of these Moore haters, they act like we are thinking he wont make mistakes and cost us games and such, the thing I like about Moore is his arm, the kid has a very strong arm and yeah he might cost us some games but given what we have seen, i dont see him always looking to smith, he definitely spread the ball around a lot more than jake ever did!!!
I want MOORE!
That’d be a great chant.:)
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Leadership
I’m sorta worried about some of the leadership we are losing on this team. D-Lew, Jake, and Moose were all big-time leaders in the locker room. We still have harris and beason…but thats about all i’m seeing…smith isn’t really a leader…as much as i love him…although he did turn into a bit more of a mentor last season which was great to see…
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions
Jake just Called the best FA QB
By Hasselbeck on ESPN. Not sure what to add to that, but wow!
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Speaks volumes about the question marks
in free agency.
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Jeremy Leman!
im soooo glad diggs and johnson are out.. now bring in jeremy leman and let him rip heads off
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
Hurney said in the press conference that they like Dan Conner and James Anderson to start.
I would love Leman for special teams though
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
*Connor
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Aussie Aussie Oi Oi!
Genius!
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
he would be awesome on st
or for depth. they never should have let him go. hes nuts! high motor fast hits hard
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
Oh yeah
Please bring Leman back. He is the kind of player that exemplifies the passion of the Cardiac Cats.
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We still have Moose
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure we did
Just don’t have a link.:(
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by chinchillas sword on Mar 5, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
...
you sure about that…I’m pretty sure we haven’t signed him
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Just figured I'd post this
http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Delhomme-Released/a2a46299-3757-4c4e-805d-14cf20da4137
Press conference where hurney and fox discuss the recent decisions. Hurney you can tell is holding back tears and Fox apparently cried (I haven’t watched the whole thing yet.)
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 12:57 PM EST reply actions
Just finished watching
The way they answered about Moore being the guaranteed starter was weird. Like they couldn’t make themselves say Jake was gone and Matt was the new leader. I understand that anything can happen in FA and the draft, but it was odd to hear that Matt is the QB, but they may still be looking for someone else. It’s like to Hurney and Fox that Jake isn’t gone yet.
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I just wish for once the front office cut the BS
The emotion was real, no doubt… but for Hurney to say that money had ‘nothing to do with cutting Jake’ is ridiculous. We all know that’s exactly what is was about.
Their answer was ‘once it’s time, it’s time’. I bet that time wouldn’t have come if Delhomme was making the veteran minimum. I understand why the team made the move, I agree that it’s the best move for the future of the franchise, but why try and fleece the media and fans. We all know this was about money.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why the secrecy is required
But they are not going to get into why they cut him. The media wants Hurney to say something like “because he sucked last year and we owe him way too much money.” They also would be admitting that they made a mistake by signing him to a massive contract (I know he “restructured” to help the cap situation), and admitting a mistake is not something either of them seems prepared to do. Foxy’s “hind-sight is 20-20” comment after week 17 is as close to an admition of guilt as I’ve seen in the eight+ years they’ve been here.
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by ERL on Mar 5, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a Panthers fan
and I’ve always bashed Jake’s play but I have always respected how he stands up and takes responsibility for his play. Listening to his press conference it’s clear that respect is well deserved. He definitely has class. Even I can’t take that away from him.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
This says it all about Delhomme last season:
Delhomme: “I was trying not to make a mistake (last year) … That doesn’t work for me. Then things compounded & weren’t going well.”
Again, love the guy, but when you are trying to not make a mistake rather than playing with instincts the wheels are going to fall off. For those saying Delhomme should have been benched early in the season FEEL YOUR VINDICATION NOW. Fox should have benched him after the Dallas game.
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Peppers to sign with Chi...
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2085770,julius-peppers-bears-sign-05.article
what is expected to be a six-year contract with approximately $12 million per year with the first three years guaranteed.
The source said the Eagles and Pats are offering deals that are closer to $10 million per year.
coulda got a lot more $$ staying in carolina so it was clearly not all about the $
So he'd rather play in Chicago for 2M less per year.
I don’t know what to think about that one. Careful….don’t try to read too far into it—your head might explode.
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by ERL on Mar 5, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
It's the term... not the $$
The Bears are guaranteeing $40 million of Peppers’ contract. The Panthers wouldn’t guarantee that much, nor would they give him a 6 year deal.
Hope Chicago enjoys it… overpaying for ex-Panthers seems to work so well for them (Moose, Ricky Manning Jr.)
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
750 yards, 4 TD…. I don’t think he was the difference maker.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. They rode their defense to the SB that year.
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I can see Peppers in the Super Bowl
next year before I see the Panthers.
I'd agree..
Even if Peppers has a monstrous season next year, is Cutler going to turn those turn overs and stops into points? Assuming he remains the starting QB.
I didn't mean that Moose was the difference maker
but he went to a better team….
For that one season, yes…. but the next season we went to the NFC Championship, and had greater overall success over that period than the Bears.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
And beat them in the playoffs that year...at their place.
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by ERL on Mar 5, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah....
Carey is REALLY looking like an incompetent agent isn’t he?
Given that he and the Bears will likely be fined for tampering… he still looks a incompetant. The Bears’ front office just looks more incompetant.
Julius will soon learn that Chicago isn’t as forgiving as Carolina.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yep...
They could have at least waited until Monday to make the announcement and sign the contract so it didn’t look quite as fishy.
Draft Gilyard!
The league already knew that Carey and the Bears were talking at the combine. Now we’ll wait to see what the penalty is.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
per Schefter:
The Chicago whopper: Julius Peppers’ contract in Chicago is expected to pay him roughly $40 million in the deal’s first three years.
Hope they have fun with this. A 30 year old DE getting paid like that? shoot….
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Did Daniel Snyder buy the Bears yesterday?
That seems like a deal that only he would make…
Draft Gilyard!
According to Delhomme, per Darin Gantt's Twitter:
Delhomme admits he was “blind-sided” by Panthers decision to cut him, but said was “for the best,” he leave rather than be Moore’s backup.
So, Jake doesn’t want to be a backup. If that’s the case there are scant few teams that would be willing to start him: Arizona, possibly Oakland.
It seems like this was the best move for Delhomme too if he wasn’t willing to hold the clipboard.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions
He also said
that he never would have been a locker room issue going in as the backup to Moore. At least that’s what I heard him say as the presser was being broadcast over WFNZ
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
I don’t doubt Jake wouldn’t have been as issue. He’s too classy for that. But if his heart wasn’t really in being a mentor, and he really wanted to start somewhere else then it’s better to cut ties with him and allow him the opportunity.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely didn't hear him say he wanted to be a starter exclusively
Last night there was talk that the Panthers asked him to retire so he could go out as a Panther. That could have been completely incorrect gossip though. My biggest impression was how blindsided he said he was by the whole thing. He got the call/text from Fox and was expecting them to say that they were gonna go with Moore and have him backup Moore but was stunned to hear the plans.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Hey Arizona could start him...
All they would have to do is put Rodgers-Cromartie in the slot – Jake could hit him every time.
Draft Gilyard!
Delhomme: "This place gave me an opportunity ... I'm always going to be a Carolina Cajun."
Classy to the end
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions
He definitely is the epitome of class
I have to give him that. Say what you want about his play on the field he always faced the music like a man.
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
twist the knife why don't ya?
Ugh. I hate this.
Keep thinking about my dog licking my face and leaning against me as we went to put him down because he was eat up with cancer. Sad.
Feeley to the Rams. Eh.
Brayton meeting with Seattle
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Yeah...
from Rotoworld
Brayton’s first choice was to return to Carolina, but the sides were unable to come to an agreement. After resurrecting his career the past two seasons, he’s drawing interest as a rotational lineman.
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They are dumping cash and going young. If it is a “bad” contract they are tossing it while they can as it won’t go against a cap. Look for a heavy dose of FAs and UFAs in camp.
I think the Panthers fill the roster with cheap undrafted rookie free agents before they pull any vets in.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hurney said ‘No’ in the press conference when asked if anyone was visiting this weekend, then quickly said ‘But of course I’ll never talk about who’s visiting’ then went on to restate that the team are happy with their young talent.
Panthers wont play in this free agent pool. I think they’ll bide their time and get a few players at value prices.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
shoestring budget
It’s what you do when you aren’t a major market team, like the Redskins, Cowboys, Patriots, NYA/B or Bears. We can’t just back up the Brinks truck and eat at Ruths Criss.
The Rams just signed AJ Feeley to pretty much be a back-up
there is no way we can’t be chasing someone.
We have holes and there are plenty of FAs…
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plenty of not much
The talent pool of this free agent class is much to be desired. The Panthers aren’t going to do much that isn’t already in house.
But there are still targets.
We’ losing guys left & right, and we’re not exactly overflowing in draft picks…
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UFA's and late FA's
Pretty sure they are going to stay young and replace the lost players via the draft and late/post draft free agency. The core is intact. The players lost all have younger replacements in line that have been being groomed.
They will backfill depth with the draft, which will allow them the strategy of taking the best players available as opposed to targeting need.
They’ll check what’s available in free agency after the draft. It isn’t sexy, but successful NFL teams operate this way. Consider the Colts, Patriots, Eagles, Chargers, etc. They don’t jump in the free agency pool and go for what’s shiny.
But they also load up on draft picks
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kind of late for that
No way to load up on draft picks if you don’t have viable trade bait. Good trade bait also usually means trading away a popular good player in the hopes a younger less experienced player that you have groomed can replace him.
They gambled and went after Otah, I’d say that paid off. They gambled and went after Brown, and we will see for sure if that pays off.
I think it will
I think Brown will end up being the steal of that draft, at least defensively.
Draft Gilyard!
I hope so
He has a great shoulder dip that looked really promising against opposing 1st string talent. I’m cautiously optimistic.
About Delhomme's press conference.
I wanna know of any Delhomme naysayer who doesn’t feel the least bit twinge of guilt or sadness watching that press conference, that was sad stuff. He is through and through a classy and just plain nice guy, I’m gonna miss the hell outta him.
I'm going to miss him too...
But I think the front office did what the felt was best for the long term future.
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My girlfriend is a hardcore Moore-flavored kool-aid drinker and even she got all sad and felt for the poor guy while watching that. As soon as you see Delhomme the person not Delhomme the quarterback it becomes more difficult to accept.
Yes, it does.
It’s hard when the guy is just a class act. It’s much easier to cut players who are douchebags – but I applaud Delhomme for being so classy about the whole ordeal.
Draft Gilyard!
His number definitely deserves to be retired.
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by Flowing Willow on Mar 6, 2010 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
Hurney knew if he didn't cut Jake loose Fox woul dbe too tempoted to start him! ;)
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Smitty said it best..
I think everyone loved the person, but were driven crazy at times by the football player. No one can deny that Delhomme is as classy as they come.
Personally
I never wanted the Panthers to undergo a youth movement or anything. I did want them to play some more of the younger guys, but a full overhaul like we seem to be seeing isn’t what I had in mind at all. With Fox having one year left on his contract, I guess he feels pretty good the Panthers can compete or he can find another job after this year.
I was eager to see what some of Panthers presumptive starters (at this point) could do, but I never imagined it would be under these conditions. The Panthers have ripped that Band-Aid right off at this point.
I am not a hardcore Matt Moore fan, so if he does struggle next year it will be interesting to see who is backup ends up being. Of course I guess everyone is supposed to have a hard and fast stance against/for Moore. At least it seems that way. I am excited to see who they bring in as a backup. All these moves are not like Hurney and Fox. It’s scary, but a little exciting…unless the Panthers go 4-12 next year of course.
Don't be so negative
I see at least a 6-10 season considering the easier schedule.
I really hope not. It’s way too early to predict the schedule at this point but I actually still feel ok about this team. I am just interested to see how the rest of the team fills out. I don’t know if they will really fill some holes with young guys or try to get some FAs who they think could fit in well short term. I know one thing, it’s all on Matt Moore now and we are going to see how he handles the pressure.
I think we'll be ok
considering what we dealt with last season with the slew of injuries, delhommes meltdown, adjusting to new D, and the league’s #2 hardest schedule and we still ended up 8-8, I’m feeling good for next season.
Yeah, me too actually. There is still the draft, free agency, and the entire offseason to go through. I like how the Panthers just ripped the Band-Aid off, but I don’t like all the uncertainty. I think these moves show the front office (potential lockout aside) are dedicated to keeping some of these young guys around or at least making sure they get a chance to play now.
I think
I think we’re all just freaking out because this is so very un-Pantherish of the Panthers organization. No one could have predicted they would let Delhomme go much less many of those others
No kidding. One of these bold moves is un-Pantherish. Cutting 4 starters in one day is just plain strange for them.
These are strange times indeed...
There will be no drop off from this team. I think 10-6 wildcard berth is reasonable if you want to give the division to the Saints
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You have to expect a drop off....
It would be a huge surprise if next year’s D-line is as as good as this past year’s (and let’s face it, last year’s D-line was a weak spot for most of the year). There will be 4 new starters, but no new faces. In other words – back-ups. Same thing at Diggs’ spot.
I've gone from being very optimistic about next year...
based on the way that they played at the end of the season, to very depressed.
We’re looking at a completely new starting D line, loss of a starting LB with a possibility of losing a starting CB. Throw in questions concerning the QB (no – I don’t want to restart the discussion of whether MM has proven himself, I hope he does well) with no back-up and I can’t even force myself to be optimistic.
And it doesn’t even look good to think of it as rebuilding. We have no good draft spots and Matt Moore, D’Will, TD, and Richard Marshall (to start with) will all be UFA’s in 2011.
Is Richardson throwing a big F You at the Carolina fans?
Perhaps we should wait until the draft and FA end..
Before we start speculating that the Panthers FO have destroyed themselves due to a few unexpected cuts.
The D line is a big question mark for sure...
but so was the o-line two years ago and that turned out well. Hey we have an experienced player plugging every hole created the past 24 hours except for #2 QB.
Delhomme >> Moore
Kemo >> Leonard
Lewis >> Tyler
Diggs >> Conner or Anderson
Muhammad >> Jarrett
Both Leonard and Tyler were only traded because neither fit in a 3-4 system but I think they can play. Marshall isn’t going anywhere this year. Now this whole process may sour his mood on the Panthers and he may leave after 2010 but there might be a lock-out then anyway.
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Why are you so sure about Marshall?
He’s worth a second round pick.
Just saying I think the Panthers will match whatever someone else offers
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I disagree
Based on the way that things are unfolding, I think that Marshall was tendered at the 2nd round level to keep from scaring other teams away. The Panthers are trying to dump him but still get some compensation.
I'm not knocking Connor or Anderson
but they hadn’t been able to beat out Diggs yet. I wish that they had waited until TC to see how it worked out on the field. Diggs has been tougher than anyone thought.
A year makes a big difference, and in two ways.
For a vet like Diggs, who’s 31, each year brings him closer to the slippery downward slope of his effectiveness. On the other hand, a younger player, such as Anderson (26) or Connor (24), sees improvement every year they gain experience.
The Panthers’ coaching staff apparently feels that the younger guys are now ready to take over.
Changing of the guard.
not to mention
In Connor’s first year he was out with an ACL injury. So realistically, last year was his rookie year.
No argument at all regarding Conners and Anderson
Just think that in an uncapped year the decision could have waited until PS. My opinion of Diggs was that he was going to be replaced 2 years ago when they signed Landon Johnson and then again last season- probably with Anderson or Conners. The fact that he kept his job means that he was a tougher nut than I thought. Why not give him achance to keep his job this year? It could only make the team better if he beat everyone else out.
I, too, thought Diggs played well last year.
I was just surmising on what the coaching staff might be thinking — that Connor and Anderson are ready for expanded roles, based on what THEY did when in.
It seems there’s been a basic decision on policy – to emphasize our young draft choices, and de-emphasize older FA’s. I know hiring Ed Johnson is an exception to that philosophy, but every other move they’ve made recently (and the ones they HAVEN’T made, in FA) seem to show that overriding thought process.
What do u think about Troy Smith?
Ravens put a 5th round tender on him. He could be had rather cheaply and he’d be willing to come here w/MM not being necessarily entrenched.
Interesting...
To bad we don’t have a fifth round pick. we’d have to negotiate to get him. He looked pretty good with the little time that I saw him. I’m sure the FO will have done some homework. I doubt anything will happen.
The Big Cat
I’ve always loved the Big Cat, but enough is enough, I understand he wants to “set an example” for league as far as spending goes but doesn’t anyone else get the feeling that out of nowhere we are getting cheap? I mean all these releases, Marshall only getting a 2nd round tender? I haven’t heard that we are pursuing anyone of interest in FA. I mean, what are we doing other than trying to save money. At some point we gotta pay some people to win a title. This team has never been known for being cheap, but I feel like all the sudden we are taking that path this year.
With Marshall, don’t forget that the Panthers still have right of first refusal. He’s just letting the league set Marshall’s price.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know man, I was caught off guard with the magnitude of these cuts...BUT.....
the more I think about it, I understand the thought process. We have such an incredibly strong core, and I’m excited to see guys like Moore, Connor , Anderson and Brown being challenged to step up and perform . The Johnson signing makes alot more sense now. It adds a vet presence familiar with Meek’s system, I would still like to see some more veteran presence in the D-line rotation and a vet back up QB, but I’m impressed with Richardson’s guts and love seeing a player (Harris) coming here and expressing his loyalty to the team and organization. This team showed incredible heart at the end of last season and thats something that you can’t buy in free agency.
My money says the FO thinks this team is ready to rise to the challenge.
will witherspoon was released
do you think we should go after him? i say we go after him and mathis, and try to trade up to draft a solid receiver.
id like to know where this Mathis news has come from.
Also, raheem Brock says he wont be in indy next year
by jojoisthemann on Mar 5, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
i think it was a 4th and 5th
WTF are we doing, we need receivers and a star one gets dealt for a 3rd and 4th?!?!? thats totally worth it. god i hate our approach to free agency.
by SouthernPanther on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
it's okay
because we’ve had some good drafts, and i could see us moving up and getting a dez bryant or jacoby ford for less than 7 mil a year.
agreed...
thats probably as much or more than Smitty makes. And we all know the Rules and Regulations pertaining to that matter.
per Adam Shefter:
Done deal: Arizona trades WR Anquan Boldin and a 2010 fifth-round pick to Baltimore for Ravens 2010 third- and fourth-round picks.
That’s insanity. I’m surprised that’s all it took from Baltimore.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Julius Peppers... king hypocrite
First off here’s his video: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-free-agency/09000d5d816c56f4/Julius-Peppers-interview
Now for the quote in response to being asked about the money he’s being paid:
“That’s not why we play. We play for the competition, we play for the thrills and the championships”
Funny that he only talked about money when he wasn’t franchised. Even funnier that if Julius believed his own quote then Carolina is a much more successful franchise over the last 10 years than the Chicago Bears, and is in a much better division.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions
At least Chicago is showing commitment to fielding a competitive team
I’ve never been a Cutler fan and I was glad that last year the Panthers didn’t show any interest in getting him (althought there were a lot of posters that thought that we should). But I have to admit that he has talent. I agree that Chicago still has some holes, but they also have some good players and they are working to get better. Carolina on the other hand, does not seem to be trying to make the team better, only cheaper. It’s starting to look Peppers had the right assesment of the situation – if he wanted to play for a championship team, it wouldn’t be here.
I disagree with your assessment of what it takes to field a 'competitive team'
Great teams aren’t built through free agency or trades alone, they’re built on the strength of their young talent and through the draft. There’s a reason Dan Snyder is looked upon with so much distain in Washington, it’s that his desire to field a team is based on little more than spending as much money as he can; this has been proven to be a colossal failure.
This was a make or break year for Lovie Smith, Jerry Angelo and the rest of the Bears front office. The soul reason they’re spending all this money is to try and save their jobs. If the Bears don’t make the playoffs it’s pretty much guaranteed they’ll all be fired.
The Bears are dooming their future by trying to win now. The problem is they didn’t have a competitive enough team to begin with. The salary cap will return, and ultimately I believe it will be in 2011 and there will be no lockout. The Bears will be able to hang their hat on the 2010 season, meanwhile the Panthers have stockpiled salary cap space to retain their young talent, a luxury the Bears won’t be able to afford with Peppers on the books for as much as they’re paying him.
I think it’s incredibly shortsighted to characterize the Panthers’ moves as little more than ‘getting cheaper’. Nobody accused the New England Patriots of ‘getting cheaper, not better’ when they let go players like Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Deion Branch etc. The moves they made ensures the Panthers aren’t handcuffed to bad contracts in the future, a major luxury that other teams would love.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 6, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with that. The more I read comments on here about this, the more I am impressed with the Big Cat’s plan for the coming years. I can’t wait to see how much chicago will get screwed if that cap is lower than what it has been in recent years and they run into that dreaded cap issue.
And really, what all did we loose? Two D tackles who were aging and bound to be replaced in a year anyway. Two aging LB’s that can be replaced by two young guys. A QB who everyone liked (as a person, not a QB) to be replaced by a younger QB who has impressed many. And finally, a DE who hasn’t even reached his “full potential” yet (even though he is 30?), to be replaced by a guy perhaps in Charles Johnson who WANTS to play here and will play EVERY DOWN with intensity.
In all honesty, this may have been the best thing the Panthers could have hoped for here.
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+1
It’s not like they released D-Will, Smitty, and Beast Mode – they released older players whose contracts are unfavorable. Yes, we’re getting younger, but I believe that we’re getting better.
Sure, we may go 8-8 again next season – but we will give players like Connor, Anderson, and Brown VALUABLE experience for a full season, and we will be able to sign long term deals for Davis and Moore (if he turns out to be the QB we all hope).
In 2011 we will look back on this day and say “Damn, Big Cat is one smart owner.”
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I would agree with you except...
with the exeception of Peppers (and possibly Maake) these moves didn’t have to be taken now. There was no need to shed players’ contracts in order to sign any new free agents or draft choices. They don’t even have to worry about cap room in order to retain any players currently on the roster for next season.
Before the cuts, I thought that the Panthers had the best, and deepest, LB corps in the NFL, with 6 players that could start for more than half the teams in the league. Now they’re down to 1 backup. If last year showed anything, it showed that you can’t have too many good linebackers .
They’ve said goodbye to all of their D-line starters, which, if nothing else, will mean that there will be another adjustment period while the team gets use to the new personnel. Last year the adjustment took over half the season and I was really hoping that they would build on the success at trhe end of the season.
Although the new team could emerge as a better team than last year’s, I have to believe that there is a better chance of finding the best team if they bring as many good players to TC and let them compete.
If these same cuts came at the end of PS, I would aplaud them as good football decisions. Since they were made now, you can’t convince me that they were made for any reason other than to save money.
The cuts weren’t about 2010, they were about 2011 and beyond.
- Cutting Jake saved the team his salary and averted a salary cap hit if they cut him in the future.
- Lewis restructure his deal in Feb of 2009 and signed a 6 year extension. Same situation as above
- Na’il Diggs restructed his deal a few months ago that added a 4 year extension. Same situation
- Kemo signed a 5 year deal in 2006. Cutting him meant he wouldn’t count against a cap in 2011 (if there is one)
- Landon Johnson was on a 3 year deal signed in 2008. Same situation
All these players were in the same position, they were all over or close to 30 and all had contracts that would count against a salary cap in 2011 or beyond. Most importantly none figured into the future of the franchise.
These moves had to be made now and take advantage of the lack of a CBA. If the Panthers waited to pull the trigger they would have had a percentage of these player’s contracts count against their salary cap.
Furthermore, cutting the players now is the classy move and more fair to them. It allows for these players to be targeted as free agents, whereas their chance to be picked up by another team is greatly diminished if the Panthers wait to cut them.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 6, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Championship team??
That bull spouted by Pep in his news conference is a laugh — not only did he disrespect the Panthers’ coaches by drooling on Lovie Smith (and his emphasis on defense) and their DC, Marinelli (after saying good things about our DC a month or so ago) – but he stresses how he loves to be on a team with a trong winning tradition.
What have the Bears won recently? They had a worse record than the Panthers in ‘09. They’ve had a worse record in the league since Peppers came in. It’s all about the $, yet he can’t be honest enough to say that – “I came here because they’re paying me more, and guaranteeing me more; that’s it.” Tradition: BS. Championship: BS. It’s just $.
I reiterate: when the Bears come to town next year, there’ll be more than a few Panthers who’ll be out to get him. They kissed his a$$, and he kissed them off.
Everyone... strike Pennington off your lists.
Per Chris Mortensen and ESPN he’s staying with the Dolphins
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by James The Aussie on Mar 5, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions
The HEART OF A LEADER...
From ESPN -
But the most interesting point may have come near the end when Peppers was asked about his reputation for staying out of the spotlight and if he can be the leader for the Bears.
"I understand the situation,’’ Peppers. "If that’s something that I have to do, which it seems like it will be, then I’m fine with it. It’s not something I can’t do. It’s just something I chose not to.’’
He really “stepped up” and “embraced” his new leadership role, didn’t he?
Guy is either a huge hypocrite with a mind worthy of psychiatric study, or his is one of the must gullible dumbasses in the league at allowing his agent to tell him what to do.
Either way, I’m glad his “underachieving, non-reaching full potential” ass is gone.
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I don't see why he couldn't be both of those.
They’re not mutually exclusive. Hypocritical dumbass sounds about right – and throw in greedy, while you’re at it.
Now hear this, Chicago...
You just signed a guy who played for the team located in the state that he was born and raised, taught how to play football in, went to college in, and has all of his roots in. He “chose not” to be a leader of that team with all of this emotional investment involved. And you guys think he’s going to come there and be the leader you need on defense? Starting to think you guys overpaid a little? Lol.
Besides….I wonder how Urlacher, a consummate professional and all-around class act, feels about playing next to a guy like this? Think he might be a bit hesitant?
by The Kackalack Kid on Mar 7, 2010 6:41 AM EST up reply actions
You heard it here first!!!!!
After shedding the team of burdensome contracts, followed by a drop off in attendance, the Former Carolina Panthers announced that they were moving the team to Los Angeles.
I doubt that will happen, but...
…considering the surprising moves that Richardson has made in the last year (firing his 2 sons, now releasing Jake), I wouldn’t be surprised by anything else he did. I had thought that John Fox’s job was secure, no matter what our record in 2010, but now I don’t now.
Is that some sort of joke?
Because there’s nothing to support the notion that cutting a few players that the mass of fans probably don’t even know much of (save Delhomme, and most of them are probably relieved due only to his most recent play) will cause a drop in attendance. Teams change personnel all of the time, yet we don’t see them lose their fan base and relocate every time it happens.
I still expect the Raiders to fill that LA stadium… Davis already tried it once.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A JOKE!!
In an exclusive interview, Jerry Richardson stated “…during the negotiations with Julius it became apparent that money had nothing do do with this – he just wanted out. And you know what? I realised that he was right – Charlotte is a crappy place. That’s when I decided to move the team. We almost got Julius to agree to a new contract if we promised to move the team in 2011, but then he decided that he couldn’t wait that long….I really can’t blame him…”
Don't use quotes unless you're ready to cite a link to it.
Still over 3 weeks until April 1st. :-)
by bigdavis on Mar 7, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
gripbd
There is no evidence of that quote anywhere. Please cite your source, because none of it is coming back when I fact check it.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 7, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Grip, that it total BS
Absolute crap. We sold out the stadium every single damn home game this year and you’re telling me that Jerry Richardson plans to move the team to LA?
This is not a place to get your internet lulz. Go take your stuff somewhere else and quit staining the good Richardson name. There is so many ways to refute your claims that I’m not going to bother. All it takes is for someone to dig into their mind and pull out a very valuable thing.
Their common sense.
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Why don't you head out to LA
and wait for Jerry.
Go on now.
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I know exactly what He'd say
He'd say "Oi!" to the punks
and "Oi!" to the skins
but "Oi!" to the world and everybody wins.
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Also...the Panthers are taking a HUGE gamble on Matt Moore
No, I don’t mean that he might flop and they don’t have a backup. That’s the little bet. I mean that if he is succssful, he will most likely be an unrestricted FA (pending the new CBA) QB and so will be able to demand a HUGE contract. And there’s no guarantee that the Franchise Tag will even exist under a new CBA. (The players hate it and it will be the first thing to go if the NFLPA accepts any cut in the cap.)
Good riddance Pepp
Per Yahoo! Sports:
“And maybe, he’ll shoot down a reputation for taking plays off, one that he feels is unwarranted.
"Sometimes, you’re on the field, you get tired," he said. "If I’m not playing as hard on play 66 as I was on play number 1, then … come on."
wow… about sums it up haha. Julius Peppers is the reason why some people hate pro athletes. There’s a difference between playing tired and not playing hard…
He's essentially acknowledging the perception is correct
he gets tired and so he doesn’t play as hard rather than go to the sideline…we’ll see how the Chicago fans feel about that
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+1
Let’s set the over/under at 8 games on when Peppers starts complaining. (That is, of course if there were such a thing as gambling.)
Draft Gilyard!
"There’s a difference between playing tired and not playing hard…"
Right on……..
Its hard to believe Peppers can’t make that distinction.
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