Panthers Paw Prints - Fox on Tebow Edition
Panthers HC John Fox attended the Florida Pro Day and was asked his opinion of QB Tim Tebow. This journalist obviously didn't realize the futility of getting real info from the sly 'Ol Fox:
Florida Gators sports news, analysis, commentary - Gator Bytes, a PalmBeachPost.com blog " Blog Archive " Reaction from Tim Tebow’s Pro Day
Q: What can you take away from watching workouts like these? Fox: "We don’t have a lot of looks at ‘em as coaches. We just get to look at ‘em this time of year, so sometimes it’s our first exposure other than TV games along the way."Q: What did Tebow show you out there today? Fox: "He doesn’t lack in the work ethic department, so whatever needs to be done he’ll do."
I'm always amused at Fox's non-answers...Moving on to our favorite local prospect who seems to have all the intangibles and most of the tangibles...but is it enough?
Panthers focus on Edwards, but at what position? | The Herald - Rock Hill, SC
"That’s his makeup; his intensity level, he’d play tight end — or try," Moore said. "He’s so, so competitive. You’ve seen him one day in here doing this, I’ve seen him for four years, and there’s been no drop-off. I think that’s his biggest strength, is his competitiveness and his intensity. "I think he’d have been just as good a wide receiver as a quarterback. Wherever you put him, he’s going to work hard and be competitive about it. He’s in the game for one thing, and that’s to win, and do well."
Seems like he and Smitty would be tight. He could also follow Smitty's path to stardom which began with special teams:
Darin Gantt's Panthers Blog | The Herald - Rock Hill, SC
Edwards said the Panthers had displayed "strong interest," saying he met with coach John Fox and position coach Tyke Tolbert at the scouting combine in Indianapolis earlier this month. While everyone at ASU Tuesday was eager to see him do both sets of position drills, Edwards said he's getting different signals from different teams. Some are looking at him as a special teamer only, others as a receiver only, and others as an all-purpose athlete who might play some quarterback as well.
Next season is Fox's last chance in Carolina? I'm not so sure...
Next season is Fox’s last chance - CharlotteObserver.com
The Panthers’ personnel moves, on the other hand, have been dominated by fiscal conservatism and a "go young" mission. The Panthers’ front office appears to be at peace with the notion of taking one step back now to take two steps forward later. The Panthers need to win, for Fox’s sake. But they also want to rebuild. And those two ideas are at cross-purposes.
I still believe Panther management fully expects to challenge for the division next year anyway. If that is going to happen we need some experience on the defensive line, which got a shot in the arm with the return of this guy:
Darin Gantt's Panthers Blog | The Herald - Rock Hill, SC
In many ways, bringing Brayton back was similar to the track record of the recently released Damione Lewis, who came here on the cheap, got a second contract and provided valuable leadership to a young line — though it wasn’t nearly as young as this one.
More updates on our departed Panthers:
Sports Radio Interviews " Blog Archive " Was Signing Julius Peppers The Answer in Chicago?
Whether people mistake his calm demeanor on the field for taking plays off: "Yeah I have heard that a million times and I think that is true. That is correct. That is a fair assumption to make, a fair statement to make. People do mistake that sometimes ,but that is just a part of my personality that it’s not going to change. It’s not going to change. Whether you mistake it for a lack of motivation or not playing hard or anything like that. That is just who I am as a person… Sometimes in your career people have to nitpick at silly things because there is nothing else to say. You can’t say that there is a lack of production. You can’t say anything else really but lack of motivation. That is the thing that people are going to try to nitpick at."
I was thinking it was the goose eggs he put up in key games that we were nitpicking...There was no questioning this guy's enthusiasm for the game:
NFL NOTES / Holmgren says Browns need 'leader' Delhomme
"My own belief is this team needs an aging veteran," Holmgren said. "They need a guy that is going to grab everybody by the throat and say, 'Follow me through that door.' I don't look at him as an aging veteran, I look at him as the leader I wanted."
I'm hoping that leadership rubbed off on our 2010 starter, who in spite being labeled the top free agent QB wasn't expected to get a better deal than in Carolina:
Czar: Watch for trade market to warm up - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN
It made sense that quarterbacks like Matt Moore (Carolina) and Bruce Gradkowski (Oakland) signed with their old teams because they never would have seen similar contracts on the open market. The guy who made out the best was Jake Delhomme, who is still owed millions by the Panthers, but got $7 million more from the Browns. That’s a huge contract for a guy who may be simply a great leader and locker-room guy. But such a deal also makes it sound like Mike Holmgren knows that the Eagles won’t be parting with either Donovan McNabb or Kevin Kolb.
Right or wrong I'm just glad he's our guy.
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That's pretty funny D
She said Tee-bow like bow of a boat….lol
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You created that? Great work!
Gotta love those talking robot-heads of yours.
Nice
I liked ‘Dee-monie Lewis’
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by James The Aussie on Mar 19, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
I thought I'd comment on today's Paw Prints...
1) Tim Tebow - In all honesty, I really wish this guy well. I hope someone gives him a chance and he takes advantage of it, shutting up all the naysayers and nitpickers over his throwing style, body type, running speed, etc. The kid’s an amazing athlete. Put him out there and see what he can do. Now, do I believe the Panthers should take him? Not unless he’s fallen pretty far on draft day. But even then, he might be a value pick. You never know. I think it might be intriguing to see a run-capable QB like Tebow under center along with our RBs. I don’t know that his arm would improve our passing game that much. But, he’d be sitting behind Matt Moore anyway and have time to work and practice. So who knows?
2) Armanti Edwards - I want to see somebody give this guy a chance, too. For all those people who questioned that Steve Smith could be anything all that special (other than a special teamer), why can’t Edwards do the same? And for all those people who thought Chris Johnson would be too small to be an every down back for the Tennessee Titans…or that Deangelo Williams wouldn’t be able to capitalize on his collegiate success to translate his game to the pro level…or that Captain Munnerlyn was too small to be an effective CB in the NFL…why can’t guys like Edwards (and Tebow) do the same? For once, I’d like to see the talking heads shut up and let a guy go out and prove what he can do at the next level, instead of just automatically making assumptions about it and talking down about him and never giving him a legitimate chance. So, should the Panthers take Edwards? I’m going to go out on a limb and say yes. The kid has skills. He’s got a following that could resonate well with local fans. He might be a better answer at KR/PR (but we’ll need training camp to assess that). And, as long as we don’t reach in order to get Edwards in the draft, why not take him?
3) Fox on the Hot Seat vs. A Rebuilding Year By Going Young - In all honesty, I think the Panthers have made a conscious choice to turn the page on some of their aging veterans. They want to shake things up again…though a fair amount of that went on last year just from a coaching aspect (particularly on defense). I think some of this is about Ron Meeks getting the guys he wants in place to do even better down the road. Some of it is parting ways with Delhomme, Muhammad, and Hoover in order to start building for the long-term, continued success of the team. And some of its just giving young guys a chance to finally get on the field and see what we’ve got. Is that going to pose a threat to Fox’s tenure as Carolina players continue to go through some growing pains? Yes…especially if we fall flat on our face and people start questioning the release of proven veterans like Hoover and Muhammad who played such a key role in the success of the running game from a blocking perspective. Is Fox going to feel any pressure from that? I seriously doubt it. He’ll be same ol’ Foxy and demand the same level of effort from his team as always. But, at the same time, it’s also apparent that by clearing the roster and trimming it down to the younger guys, the team will be in a position for another coach to take over if Fox is eventually replaced…and the new guy will immediately be able to start building the roster with “his” guys. So the Panthers have sort of hedged their bet a little.
3a) Will the Panthers Challenge for the Division This Year? - I think they’ll be competitive. But, are they going to be favored? Not really. I expect most people to pick us as finishing 3rd, behind the Saints and the Falcons, but ahead of the Bucs. As we’ve gone young, we’ve lost experience. The Saints are going to try and maintain their Super Bowl talent level (for the most part) in hopes of repeating. And the Falcons are trying to build on what they’ve got rather than starting a bunch of new guys. Even so, the Bucs are still way behind in readiness to challenge for the NFC South…despite all the roster moves the Panthers have made. Can Carolina win the division? Anything’s possible in the NFC South. The crown changes hands almost every year. It’s really going to come down to how easy our schedule becomes this season and whether or not we can split with New Orleans and Atlanta.
4) Signing Tyler Brayton - This was a wise move on the part of the Panthers. The guy wants to be here. He comes cheap. He’s got a motor that never stops running and he’ll leave it all out on the field for you. He’s also experienced. He’s the sole returning starter from last season on the D-line. Why wouldn’t you want to retain him? It’s a no-brainer.
5) Nitpicking Peppers’ In-Game Motivation - It’s both true that it’s a reflection of his personality that his demeanor on the field isn’t as “rah-rah” and fired up as other DEs and pass-rushers. He can be a game-changing force. He may even become one for the Bears (and I suspect he might as long as he’s not the sole focal point and more of a complimentary piece in their defense). But he was no longer the right fit for Carolina. The money issues were just going to hamstring us forever. The fans were split on hating/supporting him. And I think most everyone at this point rationally believes we can find someone just as good or better in terms of what Julius was providing for our team on the field over the past couple of seasons at a lesser price (which means we spend that remaining money on improving the rest of the team). Also, Peppers was getting up in years…and, if we’re going to turn a page and make the whole team younger…now was the time to let Peppers go, as well. Let the Bears get what they can out of him, and they can deal with any aging issues that start to slow him rather than us.
6) Delhomme in Cleveland - I really do wish Jake all the best. I believe he already gave us his best stuff and it took us really far. The Matt Moore era is here and we all need to embrace and see where it takes us, too. In the meantime, I absolutely agree with Holmgren’s assessment of Jake. He just may be the leader the Browns need. As long as he can control his turnovers and make sure his arm and mechanics are sound again, he could help that team make some noise if they start putting some other pieces in place around him. With Holmgren at the helm, I fully expect Cleveland to improve. I think Jake can be part of that improvement. And I hope he will be. God bless him, his family, and all those millions he’s going to pull down. Couldn’t happen to a classier guy.
But that’s just my nickel-plus worth,
—Neil
by NSpicer on Mar 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
No kidding...
That nickel will get you a steak dinner. Nice post Neil!
by The Duke Dude on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
A nickel for your thoughts Neil...
Great post.
I’ll add a couple of extra cents to your nickel.
1) If Tebow slides to the 4th or 5th (which he wont) then I’m all for taking a chance on him. Anything earlier is a risk.
2) I’m big of taking a shot on Armanti Edwards in the 6th or 7th… worst case scenario you have a kick returner.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 19, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Outstanding post Neil!
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
Love that post!
That’s got to be worth much more than a nickel!
I’m with you totally on Tebow, only I’d take him in the third if he fell there.
Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.
120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good
89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad
Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless
by Flowing Willow on Mar 20, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick or draft Tim Tebow, my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.

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