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Around SBN: Which Players Will Join The 3,000-Hit Club?

matt hasselbeck told me that mike holmgren is a "great" evaluator of qb talent.

http://twitter.com/SI_JimTrotter/status/10526204541
--Jim Trotter, SI.com

So what does that say about Jake Delhomme?

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by ERL on Mar 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That he is the perfect fit for a team looking for a rookie QB who want a solid veteran who can lead by example.

John Fox promoted Delhomme to starter in the first place, so I’d like to think he’s a pretty good evaluator too : )

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by James Dator on Mar 15, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The moves made in Carolina don't exactly have Fox's fingerprints on them.

“Loyal to a fault” and “veteran-obsessed” John Fox would never cut Brad Hoover for an unproven second-year player over a few hundred thousand in salary.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 15, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they sure don't, Michael, they sure don't.

It appears that JR and Hurney have started to make decisions for the future of the franchise, whether Fox is a part of that remains to be seen.

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by ERL on Mar 15, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

What makes you think Hurney's on board?

We’ve never heard of any disagreements between he and Fox.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 16, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

All we have to go on is press conferences

Ultimately, I have to believe that Hurney and Fox are on board with these moves because we haven’t heard otherwise.

Nothing stays a secret in the NFL. There’s always a ‘team source’, ‘NFL insider’ or player who leaks something when a coach is unhappy with management.

Until I hear even the slightest inkling that Fox or Hurney are unhappy with Richardson then all I can go on is the evidence in front of me… and that is (by their own admission) that the moves were tough but necessary.

I agree that the moves don’t appear to have Fox’s ‘fingerprints’ on them, but those same fingerprints were quickly sealing his own fate. Perhaps he realized it was time for a sea change, or time to find a new job; however, that’s just more speculation.

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by James Dator on Mar 16, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying he wanted to stick around so that he could get fired?

How does that make any sense?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 16, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, what I said was that the direction Fox was taking the team (i.e. that “veteran obsessed” Fox that you mentioned) was ensuring his eventual firing unless the team showed some sort of improvement.

I’m assuming that Fox had a hand in all these moves because we have absolutely no evidence suggesting the contrary.

I believe Fox and Hurney knew that they had to take the team in a different direction otherwise they would be sitting around waiting to be fired.

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by James Dator on Mar 16, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Ensuring his eventual firing?"

Based on what? Fox and Hurney have easily been one of the most successful HC/GM tandems in football since ’02.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 16, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on the fact Fox didn’t get an extension. That both symbolically, and literally shows that Richardson wants Fox to prove himself in 2010 to keep his job and that his prior performance since 2002 wasn’t enough to warrant an extension at this juncture.

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by James Dator on Mar 16, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN.com has Holmgren saying...

he needed somone to “grab guys by the throat and say follow me through that door”… I admit, that is Jake. If that is what the team needs, he’s a perfect fit.

by DEEZEY on Mar 16, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

ridiculous

jake may do that on the sideline and in the locker room, but if he doesn’t produce on the field, none of it matters.

by usana_gaines on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's done that for the vast majority of his career as a starter.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Cleveland is a very young team, that type of leadership will be invaluable.

Jake Delhomme, QB Carolina Panthers, 2003-2009.

120 TDs+16000+ passing yards=Good

89 INT's+27 lost fumbles=Bad

Most comeback wins since 2003=Priceless

by Flowing Willow on Mar 17, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

If Jake somehow takes Cleveland to the SB...

I’ll laugh very hard but also be very happy. The guy really deserves it.

by D-Ranged1 on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe that Mr Hasselbeck is tooting his own horn a little bit.

Actually I would say it’s a good fit. Delhomme has been a good QB and most Panther fans would agree. Last year was horrible and it was just time to move on.

I wish Delhomme the best at Cleveland. If the panthers don’t win the SB next year, I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing delhomme take the browns there.

by LittleKing on Mar 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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