Ticket Prices to increase $1-$9 per seat, Observer reports
Interesting. This the first time that management has 'bothered' me with their decision making so far this offseason. It is just a confusing message to send to their fans, considering they have done nothing but purge salaries to this point. So they are going to save their money and ask us for more. Hmm...bad timing?
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I'm not sure I like it either
but the games will sell out in minutes anyway. Plus JR may be looking at the fact he will not have any income in 2011.
BTW, are PSL owners required to buy tix if there is a strike?
If God came down on Christmas Day
I know exactly what He'd say
He'd say "Oi!" to the punks
and "Oi!" to the skins
but "Oi!" to the world and everybody wins.
-The Vandals
I would think not....
but you never know with the way that stuff works.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick, sign Derek Anderson, or draft Tim Tebow; my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
I don't understand the rising prices either...
And I know it’s not a lot of money – I mean it’s less than 10 bucks. But that’s not the point. The point is that the franchise is hoarding their money this offseason and going cheap to prepare for a potential lockout. It seems shitty to me to expect the fans to pay more when the team isn’t willing to do so.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick, sign Derek Anderson, or draft Tim Tebow; my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
Another factor...
is the desire to reduce salaries overall. Cutting the vets lowers the avg salary as they re-sign for less money.
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My feelings on the ticket prices.
This is an issue of timing more than anything else. People are choosing to see that this is somehow linked to the salary purging that’s been happening over the last weeks.
The truth is that Panthers fans have enjoyed some of the cheapest tickets in the NFL up until now and received a superior product.
Last season only three teams had cheaper tickets: Browns, Jaguars and Bills- compare their product with ours.
Even with a price rise of $9 to every seat (which is the highest it could possibly be) the Panthers would still rank 14th in the NFL and be right at the NFL average.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 12, 2010 6:12 PM EST reply actions
I see what you're saying, James.
And in reality – it doesn’t bother me that much because I never purchase tickets. I just thought the timing could have been better, but I do see your point that even with the increase, the tickets are still reasonably priced.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick, sign Derek Anderson, or draft Tim Tebow; my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
Thanks
for putting that in perspective. It does suck that prices are going up, but we definitely have it lucky. I paid $45 to watch our guys put the smackdown on Brett Favre & the Vikings, and in retrospect that was an incredible bargain!
Average ticket price in New England is $117.45
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by James The Aussie on Mar 12, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
A counterpoint...
What really matters is the cost of the tickets versus the average salary / cost of living for the metro area. That is the comparison I’d like to see. Undoubtedly Charlotte is one of the lower cost of living cities so ticket prices should be some of the lowest in the NFL. Being ranked somewhere in the middle would make ticket prices quite expensive for Charlotte residents.
by patosan on Mar 13, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OK...
Since ’04: Panthers 53-43, 2 playoff appearances
Jaguars 52-44, 2 playoff appearances
I’d say it’s probably closer than you think.
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by MichaelProcton on Mar 15, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair point
But aside from the success factor the Panthers have never needed to tarp over seats at BoA so they could try and force a faux sell out to prevent a blackout.
When I say ‘product’ I’m referring to the whole organization, not just the W’s and L’s.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 15, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's not about the product.
That’s the fact that it’s a bad market (too spread out) and a weak fanbase.
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by MichaelProcton on Mar 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps the folks in Jacksonville expect a better prodcut...hence the crummy attendance.
We in Charlotte are happy with upper middle mediocrity.
Do or do not. There is no try.
More like the Panthers have done a much better job of marketing.
The Panthers draw from all over the region, whereas the Jaguars have done a poor job in even reaching the far corners of their own city.
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by MichaelProcton on Mar 15, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Timing is everything
I guess that tells us what ownership/management thinks about fan reaction to anything from roster cuts/moves to increased ticket prices, that is to say, they don’t seem to care.
The Panthers have never been a team that puts much stock into what the fans want. I can give examples of how this is both good and bad.
The Good: We all said they were making a mistake when we traded this year’s first for Brown and Goodson, this turned out to be a good move because lets say Brown had stayed in school, would he last to the 16th pick in this year’s draft? Several trusted sources think not. We also questioned the move to trade 2009’s first rounder for Otah, and that trade worked out pretty gosh darn well, too.
The Bad: Most of the fan base saw what Fox and Hurney chose to ignore…and that is that we desperately needed to make a QB change early on last season. I could explain why this move (or lack thereof) was a bad idea, but that would be preaching to the choir, and I think this horse has been thoroughly beaten.
So, to bring some closure to this scatter-brained monstrosity, we have always been ‘a fan base detached,’ often kept in the dark about who, what, where, when, and why. As a fan from the jump, I’ve never really felt included (but I do not feel that should be my right). As someone who attends several games per season, I feel like a teeny tiny minority owner, and to be mostly avoided and ignored is not necessarily great for business, but this is the way you have to run things, as sometimes fans get so emotional, our judgment becomes cloudy at best.
PS: Did you guys see the Jaguars polled their season ticket holders on whether or not they should draft Tebow? While I think it is great to include your biggest financial supporters in business decisions, you run the risk of opening a whole ‘nother can of worms with stunts like this. The Jaguars have also had the worst attendance in the league several seasons running, so maybe this was more of a ploy to stir up some ticket sales. BTW, the results were 55/45 ’no.’
Do or do not. There is no try.
I see what you're saying ERL... but in reality most fans are stupid.
Not every Panthers fan is like the community here at CSR.
The fanbase were right about benching Delhomme early, but a fanbase’s predictions are like Nostradamus; they’ll make 4,000 and 10 will be accurate.
The problem as I see it isn’t that the fanbase are detached, it’s that they’re mistrusting of the organization’s brain trust.
Case in point: I have two good friends who are both Patriots fans. When it comes to free agency I’ll ask them about what they think of a move and they both say “They must know what they’re doing” our fanbase (for the most part) says “They have no clue what they’re doing”.
Granted, the Patriots have earned the trust of their fans a lot more than the Panthers, however, the organization isn’t met with the same kind of skepticism and cynicism that the Panthers are.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 12, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's amazing what three Lombardi Trophies will do, isn't it?
I think the Patriots could trade for Brady for Vick straight up, draft Tebow, and trade all the remaining picks for a 2012 7th rounder, and the fans will still trust that they know what they’re doing.
Well … maybe not. But you get the point.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick, sign Derek Anderson, or draft Tim Tebow; my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
I see your point
But I do think the sole reasoning behind the Patriots fan’s trust is the team’s recent success.
When the Panthers have won three super bowls, and are in the playoffs 8 of the last 10 seasons, I think you will see similar fan adoration.
The Delhomme mistake, unfortunately, will not improve the relationship between Billy Joe fan and ownership/management—Neither will the increased ticket prices, regardless of how incorrect fans will be in our assessment of the situation.
There is another line of thinking that I stumbled upon a few years back:
Sports fans in this part of the country have been somewhat spoiled, with the success of Carolina and Duke basketball, the Hurricanes already winning the Stanley Cup in their short existence, the Panthers, in their short existence, appearing in a Super Bowl, etc. I believe these triumphs have raised fan’s expectations to unrealistic levels.
Conversely, look at the Chicago Cubs, the perfect example of a fan base starved for success. After a century of mediocrity, the fans cannot help but develop patience.
With instant success comes instant expectations of grandeur. Something that has caused us as fans to become a bit jaded, perhaps.
Do or do not. There is no try.
That poll result should be the telling factor of his draft stock...
When the people in his own hometown don’t want him drafted, it should show that he might not be all that he’s hyped up to be by the media.
As long as the Panthers don't trade for Michael Vick, sign Derek Anderson, or draft Tim Tebow; my sanity (what's left of it, at least) will remain intact for 2010.
I don’t doubt the season ticket holders voted against it… the smart football move isn’t to draft Tebow.
Pity the Jags need about another 50,000 season ticket holders to justify not taking Tebow.
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by James The Aussie on Mar 12, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure I see the relevance of Brown’s theoretical position in the 2010 draft. Had we not traded up, we couldn’t have gotten him with a first-round pick this year regardless. He showed flashes last year, sure, but I wouldn’t say that that means he’s any more ready to start this year than Derrick Morgan or Brandon Graham would have been, and both are likely to be there at #16.
As to Otah, we hugely overapaid for that pick.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
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by MichaelProcton on Mar 16, 2010 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Its a question of value
Is Brown worth not having the 17th pick this year? We don’t know but I’m sure we are not the only team that would take a gamble on him to find out.
As for the Otah trade, how do you figure that we overpaid?
Do or do not. There is no try.
We ended up with a single player, who, while good for his experience level, is still not a great pass-blocker. With the Package we gave them, the Eagles were able to get several players, including an All-Pro in Jason Peters.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '010: Save the Richardson family coffers! We'll take the winning if we stumble into it.
by MichaelProcton on Mar 16, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a real issue for this fan.
In this economy I can understand alot of the outrage over our Carolina Panthers raising ticket prices but the fact of the matter is that our ticket prices were and still are some of the cheapest and lowest in all of the NFL. I can understand the complaining but really this is a non-issue for me b/c I am going to support my boys at BOA stadium as long as the Cardiac Cats are still in Charlotte, NC.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Mar 12, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Smallest increase in any of my bills
I wish my insurance, utilities, mortgage only went up $100 this year. I am okay paying the increase, but I am getting nervous about what I may be on the hook for in 2011 when my team is having a fire sale right now.
by parkershawn2001 on Mar 14, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
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