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Peppers Agent Releases Statement: Coded Buyer Beware!

Shortly before Panthers GM Marty Hurney's press conference in which he announced the team will not apply the franchise tag to DE Julius Peppers his agent sent this statement to several Panther beat writers:

"We have felt for some time that Julius would have the opportunity to test the free agent market in 2010.  He has had a very accomplished career thus far; but he is convinced that with this move he will thrive and develop fully into the player he was destined to become.  He is excited about his future and looking forward to the process of selecting his next destination."

That has to be the most pompous exit statement I've ever heard. Accuse me of having ‘jilted lover's syndrome' I don't care but I can't but help notice the obvious messages in this statement that any future buyer might want to ponder. Let's start with this part:

"he is convinced that with this move he will thrive and develop fully into the player he was destined to become"

So the message to the future buyer here is that if he doesn't thrive and fully develop it won't be his fault, it will be the buyer's fault. You see the only reason Peppers hasn't fully achieved his potential and become the most dominant DE in the history of mankind is because the Panthers and their 4-3 system have held him back. How is that you might ask? You'll have to ask Peppers or Carey for that answer.

Star-divide

What's with this "destined to be"' to be crap? Is this football or the Matrix we are talking? It's always been my impression he would have preferred to play basketball but couldn't shoot 40% from the free throw line to save his momma's life. Football simply became a better way to make a buck (or a few million). In my view this explains his well known propensity for taking entire games off while lamenting his inability to drive the lane without looking like a complete oaf.

There's more message for the owner wanting to toss $40M guaranteed at this guy. Notice he is selecting his "next destination", not his final destination. So again, whatever team gets him better know it's only temporary as he has no plans to lay down roots or anything. You will simply be his next stop and there will certainly be another one after he cashes in your $40M.

Let's also consider what is not in the statement. Did he thank the fans wearing all those #90 jersey's? The kids that adore him or his teammates that fought along with him in the trenches? Did he thank the Panthers team or management for the what $50M+ dollars they have paid him? I'm guessing at the amount but I'm sure you get the point. So that's it?

No, you see all that is irrelevant as Peppers is the chosen one simply following his destiny as the greatest athlete in modern history. We are all simply collateral, small stepping stones who should be grateful we got to witness such sheer talent in our lifetime. We will all tell our grand kids, yes I saw Julius Peppers play in person and I can now die in peace because of it.

Thanks for the lifetime of memories Julius...I hope you reach your destiny wherever the hell that ends up being.

Update: I missed Peppers personal statement and thought I was going to have to retract the last part of my rant above. See for yourself:

"Last night, I learned that the Carolina Panthers would not restrict my availability during the upcoming free agency period.  I feel good about having the opportunity to visit with other teams.  My goal will be to find the right match for my skill set.  I am thankful for the eight seasons I have spent in the National Football League thus far; and am looking forward to beginning this new phase of my career.

Thankful to the NFL but the rest of us can go pound sand! Wow...just wow.

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As I've said all along...

Sayonara Julius – don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

I know he’s a big deal in the local area b/c he’s a hometown favorite and all that crap, but still – at the end of the day it comes down to one thing: Julius Peppers is not worth $20M for one season, and when his “agent” (if you can even call him that) comes out and proclaims that there is no interest in signing a multi-year deal in Carolina, then it’s time to cut ties and let him become someone else’s headache.

Buyer Beware: you’re selling the farm for a thoroughbred, when in the end you’ll wind up with an ass for 8-9 games per year.

by BW Smith on Feb 24, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Suck it Peppers!

And what’s more, suck it Carey! The Panthers organization has by far exceeded my expectations throughout this whole ordeal. In spite of all the low blows, In spite of all of under the table insults, in spite of everything that that Carey has done to us the Panthers organization still came out and were very polite and a class act to Julius Peppers on his way out of Carolina.

Make no mistake, the rest of the NFL have been keeping an eye on this situation. No one is going to waste 15 million a season on a player that only plays 40% of the time, especially with an agent that’s going to break down and cry the instant the organization stops bowing down to Peppers royal magnitude. No one reasonable anyway. We’ve got more important players that actually want to be here we need to throw money at, like Thomas Davis and Richard Marshall.

I am very upside down happy face right now. I might even have furrowed brows!

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Heck yeah! I would too.

No words can describe how I feel about Carey. He’s arrogant. He’s overbearing and obnoxious with all these press releases. He hits below the belt, knowing the Panthers are too professional to hit back. Grr and Rawr!

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 24, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

What does an agent make? 15% I bet

A $40M contract is a cool $6M in his pocket…not bad for a college guidance counselor huh?

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Feb 24, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I’ll get one

D-Will and J-Stew: Co-MVP's 2010

by pinstriped_panther on Feb 24, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

Man I haven’t posted in a couple of months but that’s the best farewell speach I’ve seen in a while; possibly ever :-)

I’ve been back and forth on whether to back Julius or not over the years but he and his agent have really shown him to be a selfish individual.

I hope a ton of people read this article; it’s a good one!

by GuyIncognito on Feb 24, 2010 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

I included an update in case anyone ,issed it

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by Jaxon on Feb 24, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

missed

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by Jaxon on Feb 24, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

+9,001

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 24, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It's sad to say I have to agree with that

I hate Carey. :(

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 25, 2010 2:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Carey is a douche.

See my “exclusive video” fanpost for details.

by Tater596 on Feb 25, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys really do sound like you just got dumped

Careys just getting his product ready for the market. His selling point is that if you sign Peppers, he’ll be better than he has thus far. Maybe he’s even trying to blame shift any of the complaints about Peppers work ethic. But this is not personal, he’s a friggin salesman.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 24, 2010 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad he's not very good at it.

Peppers contract will come from Peppers talent, certainly not Carey’s ability as an agent.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 24, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't disagree with that

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 24, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Curious you don't see Drew Rosenhaus have to make such claims when his players hit free agency.

Or maybe he doesn’t need to be an apologist for his clients lack of desire when it comes to ‘selling’ his client.

Peppers is a paper tiger, and Carey is a snake oil salesman.

I will heartily laugh at the next team who volunteers to be the Washington Redskins (r.e. Haynesworth).

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by James Dator on Feb 24, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't disagree with that either

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 24, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

"NEXT QUESTION!!"

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 25, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The issue at this point is showing at least a smidgen of appreciation

to your fanbase. I’m not seeing that at all. Without the fans there is no 8 figure contract. Talk about a lack of social grace…I didn’t expect much from Pep but I also expected more than a total dis

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by Jaxon on Feb 24, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's not like fans have been that supportive of him the last few years

Bottom line, the guy is not happy here and fans haven’t been happy with him for some time. So everybody gets what they want in this situation right?

Or maybe we are so bitter because now we realize how valuable he was? Or maybe not, just throwing it out there.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 24, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Very good points Southtunnel

One thing I’ve noticed about us as fans is how critical we are. We’re no Philly, but if a player or coach isn’t performing up to our expectations we are a little quick to the trigger. I guess that’s what comes when you have a Conference Championship appearance your second season.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 25, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, we're also pretty forgiving!

I mean, there wasn’t that much of an uproar when it was announced (or, at least, when we figured out) that Davidson would be returning for another year at O.C. During the season, and the heat of the moment in some games, we would’ve had anyone’s head that even mentioned such blasphemy :).

Sometimes we pull the trigger but are only aiming for a limb, then we turn around and pay the rehab and hospital bills. (If that makes sense to anyone other than myself in this late hour)

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 25, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

I get it, however Davidson didn’t screw up as much the final five weeks. Just saying. :)

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 25, 2010 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha! I completely understand it.

In the end, the fans are the most brutal of managers. We care about results. Pure and unadulterated. Our typical response to a bad W/L record can be summarized with “FIRE EVERYONE! >:O”

I’ll bet you anything that if Julius Peppers played his heart out every game and didn’t have these little splurts of production every now and then, the fans would love him. If he would have resigned with the Panthers really quickly, in spite of how much we criticize him we’d still hold him up on a pillar of praise after his career was all said and done. Instead of saying that we need DE’s that can actually play, we’d say that we need to sign more guys like Julius Peppers.

In the end, the fans were mad at him because he wasn’t playing up to his talent, or at least that was our opinion. And now that he’s gone and went traitor, we’re mad at him because he wasn’t playing up to his talent AND he’s gone and went traitor on us.

Just imagine how bad it would be if he starts playing up to par somewhere else. Then we’ll REALLY be angry.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 25, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

I’ll be one of the first to admit, if Pep would’ve resigned, I would’ve been very pleased but you nailed it.

What I think will be interesting is when this little “live up to my potential” spurt is over and time goes by, when he decides it’s time to find closure for his career, where does he retire? Stephen Davis retired a Panther on a 1 day contract, I wonder if Pep will look back on his career and decide to do the same? Then again, if Carey is still with him, he may want a 1 day, 1 million dollar deal.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 25, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you hit the nail on the head with Wormtongue. He'll have a great impact on where he ends it all.

Carey was the one that really burned all the bridges, slaughtered all the cattle, and made love to all of the women before he took Peppers and ran into the hills. With him at Pepper’s side, I don’t think he’ll return.

But if he wanted to return, the Panthers are a very professional organization. They’ll let Peppers retire with them in spite of all he has done to them. Just don’t expect them to give him any phone calls. Haha

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 25, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, right.

Julius Peppers is worshiped here, and has been for years.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 25, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say we were overly critical of him

when a team loses it’s natural to look at your top players and leaders and question their performance. I always thought people placed their expectations for him too high but you also have to acknowledge the times he was matched up against inferior guys and still did little.

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by Jaxon on Feb 25, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't deny Pep's occasional down time

But some of us have gone as far as to say the team is just automatically better without him. Or that his physical and athletic abilities had no value, because effort is the only quality a player needs. I find that extreme a bit ridiculous.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree Southy

If I ever need an example of jilted lovers syndrome I’ll point to this situation. :D

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 26, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I would think

most of the people making that assertion are assuming that we will spend that $20 mill on 4-5 other impact players, and THEN we’re a better team w/o peppers…

by ClaytonFire on Feb 26, 2010 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Who has said that?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone

who says that all of peppers cap $ held us back and didn’t let us be active in free agency
(and even if there’s no league cap, I’m sure there’s a richardson cap)

by ClaytonFire on Feb 28, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't talking to you.

The reply was to st.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone

who says that all of peppers cap $ held us back and didn’t let us be active in free agency
(and even if there’s no league cap, I’m sure there’s a richardson cap)

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Mar 1, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm...

what does that have to do with the Panthers being “automatically better” without Peppers?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

not interested

this is a carolina panthers blog, and peppers isn’t a carolina panther. i say we press forward about who starts next year and why. i’m thinking johnson and brown are the starters. the pressure is on brown as he did cost us a 1st rd pick. those two can get the most pressure on the qb, but i think brayton is a better overall, so he’ll definitely get more pt. i think the key is pressure straight up the middle with inside LB blitzes and a better pass rush from the DTs. maybe that means we bring in a solid FA, but it seems they’re all being franchised.

by usana_gaines on Feb 24, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

I agree on Brown & Johnson being the starters, the two of them should generate great pressure. Brayton would be great to rotate in on rushing downs and general relief. Add in a rookie and we should be set.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 24, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

We don’t need peppers. We need gilyard. I hope he goes to the browns and get benched for being lazy.

D-Will and J-Stew: Co-MVP's 2010

by pinstriped_panther on Feb 24, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't that make Brayton a starter?

1st down is far more of a rushing down than a passing down.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You got me.

Yes, my words were poorly chosen. I more so meant Brown & Johnson should see most snaps with Brayton rotating in for either. “Starter” wasn’t the best of words to use.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 25, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunta

What do you guys say about Dunta Robinson. He’s supposed to be a free agent this year.

D-Will and J-Stew: Co-MVP's 2010

by pinstriped_panther on Feb 24, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

He will be expensive as well

and doesn’t fit an immediate need. Gamble is under contract and Marshall can be retained with a 1st round tender

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by Jaxon on Feb 24, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

He wants a huge contract, and he’s not even very good. His play has fallen markedly since he first came into the league.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

True

Just like Peppers except he’s actually good

D-Will and J-Stew: Co-MVP's 2010

by pinstriped_panther on Feb 25, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously Peppers?

Your whole NFL career at one place and you can’t even thank the organization? Oh how the Panthers have slighted you over the years… Good luck on ‘reaching your potential’.

And I guarantee you to show that he’s ‘flourishing’ he’s gonna just show up more than 50% of the time and say ‘oh hey look everyone this system lets me show my true potential!’

If he goes to the patriots that’ll just be icing on the cake and I’ll certainly have to hate him.

by EyeSack on Feb 24, 2010 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

I'm hoping..

He ends up somewhere like Oakland… I’d laugh.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 24, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd laugh too but...

Oakland just franchised Seymour. If they added Peppers, that would a hell of a DL (well, 40% of the time).

by Scrantsj on Feb 25, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but that doesn't take into account the automatic 50% reduction in talent for playing in Oakland

Which is why Asomogha is so good, even with that talent deduction, he is still exceptional.

by Tater596 on Feb 26, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I forgot about that. :P

by Scrantsj on Feb 26, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a little surprised he didn't mention the organization

I can understand him being disturbed with fans, who have been pretty hard on him the last few years… But the staff, they seem to have given him every opportunity.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 24, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Heck...

Jerry Richardson had dinner with him. You don’t have many owners that will wine and dine their best players in order to get an extension signed.

What a panzy. Somebody call the undertaker, because Julius Peppers is dead in my heart.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 25, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i won't turn on my opinion that I still want him in Carolina

but its pretty low to not thank Carolina or the fans at all…

by vitzeng on Feb 24, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty lame

Pretty lame that the statement didn’t address the support of teammates, fans, etc… even if he did not mean it.

Regardless, I believe the reason Peppers wanted to leave had nothing to do with the defense or his ability to reach his potential within it. It all goes back to Richardson calling him out (in the press) to be a more vocal leader.

You can not turn an introvert into an extrovert. All trying to does is piss the individual off. I’m guessing that’s what led to what is happening now. Or maybe I’m full of it… but the timeline is about right.

by hunt! on Feb 25, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, how dare he ask the most talented player on the team to give a shit about supporting his teammates.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 25, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not about talent

it’s about personality. Some people just aren’t leaders, and it’s not fair to ask them to be.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 26, 2010 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It's fair to ask them to act like they care just a little bit about football.

Peppers’ passion is totally devoid.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK MP,

Peppers showed passion after the safety against WAS, after the pick 6 against ARZ, after the INT against NO…

Totally devoid is too strong. He is a reserved guy. Sometimes he doesn’t make splash plays. Is he tanking it? Maybe. Only he knows for sure (for absolutely sure).

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 26, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

So three plays in a season proves he cares?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the same thing isn't it.

He can do whatever he wants. It’s his team. It was still a boneheaded move imo. Football “talent” has nothing to do with being a “vocal” leader. He led by example. And saying he is totally devoid of passion or giving a crap about his teammates is asinine. How do you get 40ish tackles, 10ish sacks, 4.5ish ff/ints a year w/o playing with passion? I saw plenty of passion through the years. Not Joey Porter cheerleader type passion. Big hits, ints, blocked fieldgoals, forced fumbles. He was freaking fun to watch. So I call bullshit on that. I could care less if he’s the dude in the middle spouting bs to try to fire teammates up.

by hunt! on Feb 26, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, love it

yeah, the dude bellowing “lets go” usually is the one that needs to pick it up. I respected Julius as a player, and also enjoyed watching him play. I will miss his ability to make plays, as well as entertain.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 26, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you can’t get 10.5 sacks without passion… but you sure can get 2.5 sacks without it like in 2007.

Curiously ‘turning it off’ as soon as something is asked of you. Lets not forget that Pep only had 1 sack until week five, curiously reappearing when people started to talk about his absence.

I don’t doubt Peppers has passion, I just think his passion is for Benjamin Franklin… not his team.

By the way… he doesn’t give a crap about his team. If he did then why didn’t he return any of Jon Beason’s calls during the 2009 offseason?

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by James Dator on Feb 26, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think he used to

It’s the whole Wormtongue thing. I’ve seen him run around, congratulate his teammates. Earlier in his career, he was definitely excited and motivated. However I think he has become all about the money now.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 27, 2010 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he is all about the money. I personally don’t understand it when you have that much money to begin with. But maybe that 2.5 sack year something was wrong with him. As I recall he’d lost alot of weight that year. Maybe he had mono or something, who knows. Just because he didn’t come out and say it, it does not mean something was not going on with him year. Heck, I can not remember him being injured.

Look at another guy starting around 2002, Dwight Freeney. I do not hear about anyone questioning his work ethic. Then again, I do not follow his team. Regardless, comparisons over the same eight years. Freeney had 6 more ff’s and 6 less ints. A wash. Freeney had 5 more sacks but 96 less tackles. Stats-wise I think that favors fairly well for our sloth.

Who knows what was going on with Beason or really the true story behind it. Just because someone says it’s true, doesn’t mean it is. Maybe he didn’t call him back because he knew Beason would report the results directly to the media, lol. Anyway, I’m not going to try to delve any more into why he only had one sack over this period of games or that year. In the end he did pretty well. And I enjoyed watching him. Who didn’t like it, when he laid the wood on that qb tiptoeing down the line last year… or was it the year before, can’t remember.

Lol, regardless, all I was originally trying to say was that I think the Panther’s organization did not use good judgement when dealing with him in the media due to his personality.

by hunt! on Feb 27, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Stats don't tell the story of effort.

Dwight Freeney is, of course, going to have less production. He’s not as talented!

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Stats and effort do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. Talent is pretty general and definitely subjective. As in, it is my opinion that Freeney is more talented at spin moves.

by hunt! on Mar 1, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a lot more to playing DE than spin moves.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you put up numbers without caring?

By being a better athlete than anybody in football at your position. The thing that makes those numbers so sad is that he could double those every year if he wanted to. But he doesn’t care about being the best ever, because he knows that’s unattainable. Hell, he said it himself.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it possible?

Is it possible that the qualities that make him a superior athlete do not directly translate into crazy stats/production? He’s still going up against OL’s who are bigger/stronger than he is. So what does he have? Speed. He’s fast, but I’m sure not the fastest or quickest DE. Height? I think he’s using that pretty well already. How can he better utilize that? Anyway, I’m done. We just disagree.

by hunt! on Mar 1, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

What a contrast in farwell speaches

LaDanian Tomlinson breaks down and cries during his farewell speech after 9 seasons in SD (compared to Pep’s 8 here). LT is not from Southern California either whereas Pep is from NC.

LT:

Tomlinson thanked the fans; his teammates throughout the years; the Chargers, for giving him a chance; and lastly, his pregnant wife, LaTorsha, who was sitting to his right in a ballroom at a suburban golf course.

There is something very wrong with Peppers…I think he has attachment issues…which would explain his lack of fire and the way he exited. He was never emotionally attached to the Carolinas even though he was raised here. Makes me wonder if he is even able to attach emotionally to anything. Is he married I don’t even know? Kids? If not that would explain a little of it. From a broken family?

I’m not trying to get all Dr. Phil on you but when you see two guys very similar in in length of service to the team, similar in importance to the team and who are leaving for the essentially the same reasons (too expensive for the production expected) yet they have polar opposite reactions I can’t help but wonder.

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by Jaxon on Feb 25, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

speeches

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by Jaxon on Feb 25, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You should get your own talk show..

It’ll examine predicaments involving sports players, like the one above…. It’ll be called.. Dr. Jax! haha.

That is funny, though. It’ll be interesting to see how he fits into his new team.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 25, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

How I predict Peppers will fair with his new team

Year 1: He’ll need to justify the contract so he’ll have a 10 sack season.

Year 2: He’ll sandbag it for most of the season, end with 6.5 sacks. People will start to doubt.

Year 3: He’ll have another 10 sack season. People will be satiated.

Year 4: He’ll have a 2 sack season. Get accused of sandbagging it again.

Year 5: Turns in a 13 sack season just in time to cry about needing a new team

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by James Dator on Feb 25, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Sounds about right.

I wish I was in such a position to choose when I want to “work” and when I want to take it easy all the while making millions.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 25, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

LT is not leaving by choice, Peppers is

LT was a fan favorite… not so much lately with Pep. LT would be more comparable to Steve Smith being let go. And I could see Smitty being emotional about it too. But Peppers has never been as loved by fans as much as Smitty.

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by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ever seen Smitty take a season or even a play off?
 

by bleed_in_blue on Feb 25, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not trying to defend the guy

I’m just saying why are we so shocked that he’s not all tear jerky about this?

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by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Given that we aren't exactly tear jerky about him leaving

I know some San Diego fans who are crushed by this.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 26, 2010 3:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I think stars lke Smitty or LT

Who have long histories and have carried your team multiple times during their careers, deserve the opportunity to retire there. I’d love to see Smitty stick around as a #2 then #3 once his production decreases. I imagine LTs problem is that he’s not willing to take a backseat role.

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by southtunnel on Feb 26, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

At what point did Peppers "carry" the Panthers?

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by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

In the MIN game

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 26, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHA.

This years MIN game? The one where Moore threw for 299 yards and 3 touchdowns? The same one where Stewart rushed for 100+ yards and another touchdown? The one where Smith brought down 157 yards worth balls and one of those aforementioned touchdowns?

The one where Peppers is credited 1 sack? As was Brown, Anderson, and Wesley. Pep did lead the team in pressuring Favre but didn’t record a single tackle elsewhere.

He was in Favre’s face all day and proved vital in our victory but he certainly didn’t carry anyone.

by D-Ranged1 on Feb 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You trying to stir up trouble again?

Nobody said anything about Peppers carrying the Panthers.

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by southtunnel on Feb 27, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

Peppers, not a fan favorite? I haven’t heard anything so ridiculous in a while.

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by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Read this thread, then repeat that statement

I’ll tell you what’s ridiculous after that.

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by Flowing Willow on Feb 27, 2010 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL...

One thread on a blog frequented by about 40 people means the fanbase hates him. Got it.

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by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Again, more than 40 people frequent this blog

And there are many others who read it. Peppers WAS a fan favorite, maybe that’s what’s confusing you, but after the past three years with the 2.5 sack season, saying he wanted out, burning all the bridges, he’s no longer a fan favorite.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 1, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I said "fans have never loved Pep as much as Smitty"

So you are actually arguing that fans love Pep more.

Either way this is stupid. Pep has always had a love hate relationship with the fans. We all understand this… You are the odd man out. Let’s move on.

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by southtunnel on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I certainly am.

He’s a local player, and he has the built-in support of having gone to the state’s flagship institution to play his college ball. Few Panthers fans had ever heard of Steve Smith before he became a Panther.

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 1, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Smitty was always the favorite after 03. Definitely so after 05.

Peppers hasn’t been the favorite his entire career, he hasn’t talked to the fans enough to build that kind of rapport.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 2, 2010 6:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Bla bla bla... I'm a bitter Duke fan

There are other blogs where you can display biased college sports opinions

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by southtunnel on Mar 2, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do we have numerous looong threads debating Pep's worth on this team?

Only if you are just posting comments without reading, could you not understand that Pep is loved AND HATED by many.

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by southtunnel on Feb 27, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So the 10 people on this blog who don't like him constitute "many?"

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by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

There's more than ten

and there are others elsewhere.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 1, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Its a lot better representation than what you are using

Which is nothing but your own biased opinion.

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by southtunnel on Mar 1, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

LT not leaving by choice?

SD didn’t offer him a reduced salary contract to stay? I can’t imagine they didn’t but LT is figures he is still worth a lot. I’, just assuming, could be wrong but can’t imagine they didn’t offer his something

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by Jaxon on Feb 27, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't heard that they offered him anything

Just that he was released because he hasn’t played well the last couple years. But his talk sounds like he still thinks he should be the starter for a contender somewhere. But with 1st year RBs playing so well lately… I think he’s going to have a tough time finding a quality team to sign him.

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by southtunnel on Feb 27, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see the Pats taking a chance on him if he comes cheap enough.

Drew Brees is also lobbying hard to get him to NO.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 28, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd have to be a backup in NO

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by southtunnel on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

He's probably going to have to be a backup anywhere he goes at this point.

He’s not very good anymore.

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 1, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Also...

NO clearly doesn’t think much of Pierre Thomas, having only put a second-round tender on him. Do you really think they’d give Reggie Bush the bulk of the workload over Tomlinson?

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Only a second round tender?

He’s a RB, not many would give up a second for him. A second means they wanted to keep him.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 2, 2010 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll see.

Would you rather risk a second-rounder on a guy like Eric Shelton, or take a very young guy who’s already proven he can be a lead back on a Super Bowl-quality team?

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 2, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He has injury concerns

He’s not a lead back. A second round pick, with how common RB’s are to find, is a steal.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 3, 2010 5:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Not a lead back?

Funny, the fact that he led them in touches out of the backfield would seem to disagree.

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 3, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

How many touches did he have?

A lead back is someone who can handle a significant workload, as much as I like PT, he hasn’t proven that yet.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Mar 4, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No, they'll give the bulk of the workload to Bell

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by southtunnel on Mar 2, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

The same Mike Bell they only gave a right-of-first-refusal tender to? They must want nothing more than to put the bulk of their run game workload in his hands.

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by MichaelProcton on Mar 3, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

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