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Matt Moore's Performance as a NFL Starter in 2007: His Humble Beginnings

Matt Moore. It is a name that we may become all too familiar with in this new decade. Matt Moore is not just a person, he is the representative of a trend in Carolina. For whatever reason, the backup QB has always been the most popular position with the Panthers the last few years. It's been a position filled with many failures, with fans betraying their favorite backup QB just as quickly as they had lifted him to his throne. Chris Weinke, David Carr, Josh McCown, one after another our backups have failed to produce in a horrifying fashion when Jake Delhomme has gone down. Multiple interceptions, several sacks, sometimes even a complete inability to complete the most basic pass. No one ever rose to the challenge of being 'the guy.'

Then in comes Matt Moore. The latest crown prince of the Panthers franchise. He's compiled a 6-2 record as a starter and he's been the only backup QB since Jake Delhomme that has had consistent success after the starter has gone down from injury. As Jake Delhomme replaced Rodney Peete in the beginning of the John Fox era, will Matt Moore now replace Jake Delhomme? It's quite obvious to see the improvement in the offense once Matt Moore has been inserted. Jake Delhomme threw for 8 touchdown and 18 interceptions over the course of 11 games; Matt Moore threw for 8 touchdowns and 2 interceptions over the last 5. Many football sites have ranked Matt Moore the best FA QB coming into the 2010 offseason.

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You cannot complain about this kid. He has an strong, accurate arm and he can scramble out of the pocket if he's under pressure. He goes through his reads. He can hit Steve Smith on the deep throw and on the slant route. He can dump the ball off to our running backs and take off up the field if he has some extra space. While we've only had half a season to judge him, he's impressed us time and time again. You'd have to be clinically insane to not consider Matt Moore the favorite going into training camp, if not the entrenched starter already.

Today, we're going to go through Matt Moore's history with the Carolina Panthers through his games in 2007, when Matt Moore took his turn on the Quarterback Carousel that led the Panthers to an 7-9 season.

Game 15: Carolina Panthers vs Seattle Seahawks

The Carolina Panthers went up against the Seattle Seahawks in Week 15 in one of the most boring games I have ever seen until late in the game. The 1st quarter consisted almost entirely of 3 and outs for both teams, and the 1st touchdown wasn't scored until 1:17 left in the 4th Quarter. Statistically, Matt Moore did pretty well. 19 out of 27 for 208 yards and a 92.8 passer rating. He acted mostly like your traditional pocket passer, in stark contrast of the Matt Moore we know in 2009. The offensive line kept him off the ground and he did a good job spreading the ball around to all receivers. We had 7 players with at least one completion in the books. However, Matt Moore never hit the deep bomb or led a good TD scoring drive. When the Panthers won the game 13-10, it was a humble start to his young career.

Game 16: Carolina Panthers vs Dallas Cowboys

Matt had his first touchdown strike of the year this game, a 11 yard strike to Steve Smith in the middle of the second quarter. Here's what I got out of this game: It seemed like Matt Moore wasn't playing to his strengths. Just like the Seahawks game, he was trying to stay in the pocket and throw under pressure. But the offensive line wasn't protecting him as well, and that's not his game to begin with. He's a guy that needs to take off out of the pocket and throw on the run when he's under pressure, someone that will create a play whether than wait for it to come to him. He wasn't seeming to use that part of his game for whatever reason, and that led to 5 sacks and an interception later on in the game.

Panthers lost that game, 13-20. The Panthers had 3:10 left on the clock in the 4th Quarter on defense to try to get the ball back, but the Cowboys were able to run out the clock and win the game.

Game 17: The Carolina Panthers vs Tampa Bay Bucs

Matt Moore had a pretty good game, two touchdowns and one interception. It wasn't a breakout game, but it was a sign of things to come. Matt Moore led 72 and 68 yard scoring drives that featured a balanced game with a equal amount of run and pass in the 1st quarter. He flashed his brilliance, and if he had just done an average job the rest of the game, he might have been viewed as the heir-apparent after Jake Delhomme retires.

However, he choked and made a few boneheaded plays later in the game. Late in the 3rd quarter at the Carolina 35 he was pressured in the pocket and ended up dropping back 24 yards before being taken down at the 11 yard line. It made him look fairly silly, and showed his youth for the NFL game. He also threw an interception at the beginning of a drive deep in Panthers territory, giving the Bucs 3 points on a silver platter. While the Panthers won that game 31-23, it wasn't a dominant performance that would have the Panthers brass looking to him for the future. Matt Moore would have to wait till 2009 to truly get his shot at the starting job.

The game ended with Vinny Testaverde lining up for the V formation and taking the final snap for the win, a classy move by John Fox to let him give a suitable cap to a successful career.

Here lies the following Summery

Now there's only a small amount of time to judge him based on these performances, but I'll tell you all what I got out of those three games. What you have here is a QB who is trying to find his place in the NFL. He seemed to force himself to try to play like a traditional pocket passer. He wanted to scramble, but when pressure started getting to him he would stay in that pocket that extra second longer that prevented him from escaping the pocket when he needed to. He seemed like he would get rattled, especially during the Dallas game when they sent blitzes in each and every direction towards him. But the important thing is that he flashed his brilliance on the field. He could hit receivers on the run, allowing them to make that extra move and turn a small 1st down catch into a big gain. He had a deep ball. He showed enough for the Panthers to keep him on as a developmental QB, and we kept him in order to see what kind of guy he could develop into on the long term.

In my next article, we'll go over the games that Matt played in 2009 and witness the transformation of a pocket passer QB into a scrambler QB. See you then.

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I'm waiting with baited breath to see what happens with Moore

Everyone knows I’ve dealt with Matt Moore in an extremely cautiously optimistic manor.

There’s no doubt that he’s been successful over his short tenure as a Panther starter… I just hope the trend continues. It would be amazing to bridge the gap to a new starter without having to worry about a high priced free agent, or a crap shoot in the draft.

I look forward to the next part Rev!

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I also blog the Panthers at www.realbitsofpanthers.com

by James Dator on Feb 22, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks James!

I’ll bet that Matt Moore is a starter. As long as he continues to do what he does and scramble his skinny rear out of the pocket when he’s under pressure, I think he’ll be just fine. He truly reminds me of a Tony Romo or a Big Ben, and as long as they don’t restrict that and try to turn Moore into another Jake Delhomme, I think he’ll be great for us.

My main concern is that the Panthers will try to pull a fast one and give him a lower tender with the intent on coaxing another team to give up a 1st round pick or a 1st and 3rd round pick in order to acquire him. Or that he’ll enter the Panthers training camp and John Fox will have another ‘loyalty to his veterans’ episode. We need to give this kid a long-term extension and make sure everyone knows that he’s the starter going into camp. At this point, it’s his job to lose. When Jake has as bad a season as he has had, you can’t just give him back the job due to past performances. The NFL is all about the here and now.

By the way, one minor note here. I have evidently finished the last high school test in my private school curriculum. My diploma should be printed in under two weeks, if my teachers get to it immediately.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 22, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, who'd want another Jake Delhomme?

Why would we ever want Moore to be a QB that can put the Panthers in the top four of the NFL for two of the next seven years?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 22, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

He's talking about being a traditional pocket QB

Moore is better when he can move around.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

It's the other 5 years people are worried about

I’ll take a consistent top 10 over an occasional top 4 any day

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 22, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We've been at least seventh in the league in wins since Delhomme became the starter.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I can think of more than half of those years

Where were far from 7th in wins.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 23, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So you'd prefer they trade off 13-3 and 3-13 seasons?

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 24, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok first of all you have absolutely NO reason to think Moore would go 3-13

His win percentage as a starter has never been below .500.

Second, missing the playoffs 60% of the time is not compensated for by going 7-9.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

We also have no reason to think Delhomme will be anything but a winning QB.

His winning percentage as a starter is among the best among all QBs in the NFL.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on last season

I’m not sure how you can make this statement.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 26, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Based on Moore's atrocious play in the preseason...

I’m not sure how you can say anything about his ability.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

MP

What will it take for you to either…

A). Admit Delhomme is done as a starting QB.

or

B). Admit Matt Moore is currently a better QB than the Delhomme of present.

Just curious.

I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it.

by Davejinxer on Feb 26, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

One question

All fine and good to start up another thread on Matt Moore.

But tell me how the “Related Fan Posts” are selected. Of the 5 such I see to the right on my page now, only 2 are related to Moore, and they’re both originated by MP, both critical of him in favor of Delhomme. How are they “Related,” and why aren’t there included other posts which, at the time they appeared, garnered hundreds of intelligent comments?

by bigdavis on Feb 22, 2010 12:53 AM EST reply actions  

That's controlled by the SBN program

I don’t control that…I’m sure its based on some algorithm they use

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Feb 22, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I have to disagree with just one statement, otherwise I like the whole article

For me, Matt Moore will be the unquestioned starter, not if he beats Delhomme out in camp, but when he does what Delhomme does so well, bring us back in the fourth quarter. I believe for his career Delhomme had a QB rating in the 90’s once the fourth quarter came around. Moore didn’t really face a lot of adversity in his starts this season, he brought us back from a one point deficit, yes, but honestly, that wasn’t really a high pressure situation. His receivers bailed him out with some excellent YAC too. This upcoming year, if we open vs the Browns, go into the fourth quarter down by four, and Moore can pull out a victory, then he will be the starter.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 2:20 AM EST reply actions  

Interesting to see...

That you chose not to mention the fact that the Seahawks and Buccaneers literally had nothing to play for. Both teams were locked into their playoff seeds by the time of their game against us. The Seahawks didn’t show it so much (although who would be sitting players by week 15), but the Buccaneers sat 10 of their 11 starters, and had far worse players than that in the game by halftime, using most of the second half to play most of their third- and fourth-string players.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 22, 2010 2:57 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, and by the way..

Moore was awful against the Cowboys. In the only of his three games that year that he saw any pressure at all, he curled up like a baby and tossed passes wherever he could get rid of them. Five sacks and barely a 50% completion rate? Ugh.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 22, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Five sacks

Speaks of the offensive line deficiencies, not Moore’s. And to not bomb and literally throw the game away under that pressure speaks of the poise he was known for that year. That’s what everyone loved about him, he came in, and wasn’t scrambling around like Carr, or shuffling to the sidelines in a walker like Vinny. He showed calm and poise, and he WON. Sure, he made some rookie mistakes, because guess what, he was a rookie. He’s far better now than he was in 07.

And the Seahawks were playing for seeding, I looked it up.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Or his lack of awareness as to pocket pressure.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 22, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Not that game.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Lack of awareness of pocket pressure results in turn overs

AKA Jake Delhomme. For a guy this green, Moore has an uncanny ability to protect the ball.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 22, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

MP you love to play 'those teams had nothing to play for' card on Moore

so if you continue that logic, the Panthers had nothing to play for either. So that means we can discount all stats for teams and players that either were already eliminated from the playoffs or were already in the playoffs since ‘they had nothing to play for’.

So I’m sure when teams negotiate player contracts they separate the stats between games in which there ‘was something to play for’ and those games ‘where there was nothing to play for’ since everyone knows the players on the field lolly-gagged around (think Pro Bowl) in those situations. So Double Troubles twin 1,100 seasons mean nothing since it was against several teams ‘who had nothing to play for’.

So where does this analogy start and where does it end MP? Tennessee started last season 0-6 so certainly none of their remaining stats should really be counted since they had ‘nothing to play for’. That 8-2 finish was shear luck produced by a bunch of players who either forgot they had nothing to play for or they were playing teams who were already in the playoffs and therefore didn’t care either.

I wait patiently for your answer…

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Feb 22, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm saying that skillsets and abilities are defined when the season is on the line.

Delhomme has consistently showed an ability to step up in the fourth quarter, in the playoffs, and when his team needed him most. Moore has shown none of those things.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

“Delhomme has consistently showed an ability to step up in the fourth quarter, in the playoffs and when his team needed him most”

‘Has’ is the operative word in that statement… an indication to the past. Recent history has shown that he can no longer do those things. Whether it be the elbow, or whether it’s his confidence there is no data to show that from the Arizona playoff game in 2008 that Delhomme can still keep up that level of performance.

You can’t hold it against Moore for not having a 4th quarter drive simply because recent history has shown the Panthers with Moore are too far ahead on the scoreboard to need a dramatic 4th quarter drive, or that Moore took over the keys to a team incapable of making the playoffs and much of that failure has to do with the play of Delhomme.

So, while Moore hasn’t had the opportunity to lead that big fourth quarter drive, or make the big play in the playoffs he also hasn’t posted a 3+ INT game as a starter, or thrown an INT that ultimately costs the Panthers a game.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I also blog the Panthers at www.realbitsofpanthers.com

by James Dator on Feb 23, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

"consistently" in the playoffs?? uh-uh

Jake’s played in 8 post-season games. The word inconsistent better describes his play.

In the 4 in ‘03, he did his best work — I’d grade those 1 Average game, 2 Good, and 1 Very Good (the Super Bowl loss not on him)

In ‘05, the 3 games had him with with 5 TDs and 4 INTs, a rating of 82.4 — I’d grade those games 1 Average, 1 Good, 1 Bad

And of course in ’08, the only term would be Terrible.

So what’s that? 1 Terrible, 1 Bad, 2 Average, 3 Good, and 1 Very Good.

NOT consistent in post-season play, by any means.

by bigdavis on Feb 23, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

To be honest

In Seattle, his team had been on the road for three straight weeks, Jamal Robertson ended up playing RB for most of the game, and as a result, they could literally triple Smith without fear of any consequences.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 23, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

To have gotten as far as they did with the players they had around Delhomme and Smith on offense was pretty incredible. First undrafted backfield (Delhomme, Hoover, Goings for his handful of plays before getting hurt) to ever start a Conference Championship game.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

2005 the entire team was on Smitty's back

He had what should have been a MVP season, and it wasn’t because Delhomme is some amazing QB… we learned that last year. Anything Jake accomplished that year, Smitty has to be given credit for a fair shake of it.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 23, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And anything Smith gets credit for deserves plenty of credit in Delhomme's direction.

When looking at Smith’s career, his numbers are markedly down when any quarterback not named Delhomme was under center.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 24, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Not to take any credit away from Smitty, he’s an incredible player, but his numbers are best when Delhomme is playing. Part of that is because we haven’t had a truly competent backup since Moore this season, but part of it is that Jake and Smitty built up some amazing chemistry. You don’t say Jerry Rice made Montana look good, it’s a team effort.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 24, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Then why did he play better last year when Moore was in and Jake was on the bench?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Delhomme isn't the same QB this season as he was in the past

Proof that Smith didn’t make Delhomme, 2004, Smith breaks his leg, Muhammad goes off for 16 touchdowns. Smith certainly helped Delhomme out, but to say he made Jake is a lie. It reminds me of a Bojangles commercial I saw. Smith knocks on Delhomme’s door with some fried chicken and says, “You complete me.”

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 26, 2010 5:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Only in Procto-fantasy land

2009 with Delhomme
55 yards per game, .36 TDs per game

2009 with Moore
95 yards per game, .75 TDs per game

Look at the numbers first next time.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Take a stats class.

Or just look up something called a small sample size.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

DWAYNE JARRETT, ALL-PRO!

This is the kind of logic you’re defending.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

5 games or 30% of the season.

The same reason Browns RB Jerome Harrison is not trying to find a new team. The same reason the Jaguars were not in the playoffs. The same amount of time it took for Tom Brady to solidify his starting spot over the veteran Drew Bledsoe.

You see, many people that make decisions for NFL teams find 5 games to be plenty of time to base important decisions off of. That was a horrible sentence, but you get what I’m saying…I don’t think coincidence is 5 games, maybe 2. Smitty’s production was higher, go cry about it.

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Mar 2, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice link... pretty fascinating...

What’s with that scouts writing though? It made me lol.

“Matt is a super tough kid”
“Matt is super smart”
“My sources told me he was a reject”

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by James Dator on Feb 22, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting comments by that scout (who admits he only graded 6 games)

Note his conclusion, which may have been prescient: “…will need a season or two of work, but will eventually become a good starting NFL quarterback.”

2 questions, Cyberjag —

1) what numerical grading scale does this scout use? Moore’s evaluations run from one low of a 2 (key down conversions), to mostly 5.5 to 6.5, with a few 7’s, where he’s raving about that particular facet of play. So is a 7 the top grade, or does he rate from 1-10?

the positive things this scout noted are what has and will lead to his success, and are not that common in today’s young QB field: ability to pass well on rollouts, quick release, good footwork and mechanics (tho he noted inconsistency at that age), pocket awareness, scrambling ability, mental toughness, downfield accuracy, and the sense to throw the ball away, as opposed to forcing it.

Thanks for sharing it.

2) how does one access similar evaluation reports on other QB’s? — it would be fun to read what was said about others of Moore’s class.

by bigdavis on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Most scouting scales range from 2-8.

I’m sure that’s how it works in baseball.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

You should probably cite that

I’ve seen that floating around and I don’t want the blog to be cited for copyright infringement or something like that.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

Hurrah for English! He needs to work on that =p

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Feb 23, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm curious to see what kind of tender the Panthers put on him

that will tell us a lot of their intentions for him in the fall

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by Jaxon on Feb 22, 2010 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think it will be that great

The staff is on the “hot-seat”, no reason to invest in a future QB until you know you are there long term as well. Plus with money tied up in Jake, I think that skews things a bit too.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 22, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt it.

Moore probably doesn’t get extended, but even the highest tender we could place on him won’t cost much more than $3 mil or so. Not a bad rate if he wins the job.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you doubt?

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by southtunnel on Feb 23, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt we extend him.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 24, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

From Revshawns link via Walter Football

Is anyone else surprised Moore is rated the top FA QB:

Matt Moore (ERFA), QB, Panthers. Age: 26.
I hate to make strong judgments after only a few starts, but Matt Moore played exceptionally well down the stretch. In his final three starts, he threw seven touchdowns and no interceptions, completing 65.8 percent of his passes in the process. Moore defeated the Vikings and Giants in consecutive weeks during that span.

Sure it’s a weak FA class but I think it emphasizes the need to keep this kid in the fold.

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by Jaxon on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Nice post Rev!

Thanks for the memories

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by Jaxon on Feb 22, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

FA Tender

I expect the Panthers to use atleast a 1st round tender on him. I think the Big Cat understands what Matt Moore means to the fans right now and he understands that there would be pretty much a fan revolt if we let Moore get away so I totally expect us to retain him at all costs this offseason.

by SouthernPanther on Feb 22, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

This team isn't built on the desires of the fans.

The team and its executives will do what they need to to win.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 22, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

And retaining Moore isn't what we need?

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

3-7…..5-1
3-7…..5-1
3-7…..5-1

Geez I dunno!

Do or do not. There is no try.

by ERL on Feb 22, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Moore was 4-1, not 5-1

So it’s 4-7 … 4-1

(and no offense, I’m not trying to come across as a pompous-ass)

by BW Smith on Feb 22, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it's fine

Better you point that out than MP.

The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

by Flowing Willow on Feb 22, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Where'd that get them last year?

In order “to win” they invested everything into a turn over machine… Didn’t quite do what they needed to. However we learned the guy behind him has potential to be really good. It’s not just what the fans want, it’s what needs to happen.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 22, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Not even remotely true.

They “invested” in Delhomme because they needed the cap space. Had Peppers allowed for such a ridiculous “investment,” Delhomme could have just hit the FA market this summer and you people could have gotten your wish.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 23, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not remotely true that they invested in Jake because they thought he could win?

And they just did it for cap space??? In that case the team and its executives definitely weren’t doing “what they needed to to win”

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 23, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, they did what they needed to do to win.

And that included having enough money to field a 53-man roster.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 24, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you watch any games last season?

We were 4-7 with Jake as a starter! Unless wins and losses mean nothing to you, then that was not what they needed to do to win. The only winning we had was going 4-1 when Jake was on the bench.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Feb 25, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

By definition, we won four games when he was starting.

But this all goes back to your decision to scapegoat Delhomme. And if that makes you comfortable, so be it. But when Moore loses out in a position battle (AGAIN), just keep your whining to a minimum.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Thank you, Mr. Cleo.

Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.

by MichaelProcton on Feb 26, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

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