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There is a very big story here that many people are not talking about

Jerry Richardson is one of the most active- non active owners in league history. His presence in the league is felt just as much as Jerry Jones, but he delegates his team very well to the positions that he should.  I think though that he has given Hurney a little to much control over this team. 

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I rememberthe interviews from the 2009 and 2010 draft when questions where raised about the players drafted.  Fox would then turn the interview over to Hurney who explained the way the Panthers drafted.  He stated that they would look at the board and look at the highest rated guy and vote on him if they could not agree on that player after reasoning with   they would pass on said player. To me this sounds allot like the Survivor vote off. If you go into the draft thinking you want a certain guy, all you need is to get people on your side.  Now what if Hurney happened to get more coaches and scouts to agree with him (the GM) versus John Fox (the Head Coach).  That would create a situation of stress for anyone. It might even sway John Fox to start "his guys" over "Their Guys" ie: Jake Delhomme over Matt Moore, Nate Sally over Sherod Martin or Charles Godfrey, Nail Diggs over James Anderson, ect.  The excuse could be that these younger players are not ready yet or they haven't earned a spot on the field. 

With all the money tied up on the bench. A GM might be forced to play his hand and release alot of the veteran players.  This way he could say my picks are fine you just can't coach them well.

" ""We've got a budget and that had something to do with it,"

If this speculation is true.  Then it looks like both Fox and Hurney were right.  The young guys were not ready, the GM did not do a good job of evaluating the talent on his roster and made some bad moves.  The veteran guys were holding back the development of the younger players who should have been on the field sooner.

Every expert except local media believe John Fox is an excellent coach. If we judge the team by this season you could say that the panthers organization has not drafted well at all. I'm not talking about the "stars" on the team im talking about the other 18 starters on both sides of the ball.

Lets face it. The team we have now was almost completely built by the draft. That makes us 1-11.

What we have is a FO that is trying to see who has the bigger ****.  And Mr Richardson is laying in bed thinking "This is not what i wanted at all."

So next year we will be left with this Hurney product and a coach that he hand-picked.  If his talent for finding coaches is as good as his talent for finding players.  We will have a great head coach with horrible coordinators. Sounds kinda familiar.

"Sometimes you have to force yourself to give those guys that opportunity and that experience," Hurney said. "We wouldn't do these things without those players there."

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Do you think this team would be better run by a monkey?
yes
21 votes
no
27 votes
like the ones we have now, or smarter?
33 votes

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Lets face it. The team we have now was almost completely built by the draft. That makes us 1-11.

The 2010 Carolina Panthers’ 53 man squad has 32 players who were drafted by the Panthers, the remaining guys were not selections.

The 2008 Carolina Panthers’ 53 man squad had 28 players who were drafted by the Panthers, this team went 12-4.

The 2005 Carolina Panthers’ 53 man squad had 27 players who were drafted by the Panthers, this team went 11-5 and went to the NFC Championship game.

In both cases the active roster was made up with over 50% of players who the Panthers drafted.

The problem in 2010 isn’t the Panthers’ ability to evaluate talent and draft effectively, but rather that for the first time the Panthers are starting a rash of young players. 9 starters currently have less than 3 years of NFL experience, and that’s the main problem right now.

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by James Dator on Dec 11, 2010 8:30 AM EST reply actions  

yes that is my point

Are the players that have been drafted nfl quality? sure they are. but they do not fit the system that the head coach is trying to use.

think of this. if we were going to let Peppers walk away this year. then why not let him walk last year? we could have singed the 3 offensive lineman that we lost to other teams.

and although i love armanti edwards, couldnt we have given that second round pick to san diego for vincent jackson?

and why do 9 starters have less than 3 years in the Nfl? because the vets that were starting were all let go.

im not arguing the players but rather the staff. from Gm down to our most beloved skipper (ast head coach) the back biting has effected the product that is placed on the field.

by Eric Mills on Dec 12, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I do agree we need to fix the system... that will be the new HCs job.

We couldn’t trade Peppers last year because he didn’t sign his tender until the last minute.

San Diego would not have taken a “next year’s” 2nd rounder for Vincent Jackson.

The plan was not to have so many rookies playing, although it’s true they were looking to get younger and dump salaries. Matt Moore, Jeff Otah, Thomas Davis all injured early. Dwayne Jarrett = fail; More injuries— Deangelo, Conner, hell the list is too long.

The vets that were let go were backup quality guys, including Jake (plus they had to get that ridiculous salary off the cap). Hoover really couldn’t Hoove another year. He gave us all he had. Beyond that, the veterans we kept haven’t exactly been stepping up (Gross, Gamble, Kalil, Marshall, …).

The FO took a chance that they could go younger and clear cap space and still be competitive. When you roll the dice, sometimes they come up craps. But it was still the right move to make at the time, and even now thing’s are going to work to our future advantage. Keep the faith and GO PANTHERS!!!

I was thinking that I was drinking too much....so I quit thinking

by Rick Bates on Dec 12, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Although I disagree with you............

I respected your post until I got to the poll. “Better run by a monkey”? Come on man.

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by ALAC on Dec 11, 2010 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

which is why I despise random people making threads like this

Should be a minimum activity limit to create posts/shots

GSO

by MikeTrain on Dec 11, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

despise really!

everyone has the right to have their voice heard. random, hardly. if i chose to post very often or not is not indicative of how often i visit this site. you show your stubbrun ingnorance by your inablity to accept the opionin of others.

by Eric Mills on Dec 12, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

We also have a right to disagree with you...............

and question your writing methods. Your post is fine, wrong, but fine. The poll is just stupid and a waste of peoples time.

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by ALAC on Dec 12, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

ladies and gentlemen welcom ALAC to the conversation

although he is a contraceptive error, and his lack of respect for fellow posters is duly noted, he may be right about the stupidity of the monkey poll. or maybe he should laugh like everyone else.

by Eric Mills on Dec 12, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't laugh either, for what it's worth.

It just wasn’t funny, sorry.

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by BW Smith on Dec 12, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullshit.

As with life, you earn respect. I don’t owe it to anybody.

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by ALAC on Dec 12, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to work on your act.

It’s pretty lame.

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by ALAC on Dec 12, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Carolina drafts good!

i like hurneys drafting….your not gonna knock one out the park every pick every year

by CaptainPanther on Dec 11, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

I'm saddened at the response this post got..

Had to make sure I was still at CSR.. Felt like someone was getting burned at the stake for a moment, for no good reason.

"'Only problem I have with Armanti is knowing he would have been there 2-3 rounds later.' to which Darin Gantt replies 'Wouldn't have been 1 full round later.'"

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 13, 2010 2:53 AM EST reply actions  

My initial post was respectful.

The response by the poster

you show your stubbrun ingnorance by your inablity to accept the opionin of others
is what struck a nerve with me. Nothing said prior to this remark warranted such a hostile response. It went to hell in the handbasket after that.

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by ALAC on Dec 13, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't pointing at you, ALAC.

Just commenting on the fact that we’re in such a state that topics turn hostile so quickly. We’re all so tired of losing, the laughter is sparse.

To note, re-reading my own comment, I realize I typed something a little different from what I intended. “I’m saddened at the response this post got..” should have read something along the lines of “I’m saddened at the way this post turned out.” Poorly worded, I apologize.

Point being, it doesn’t take much for any of us to get riled up these days and it’s a shame (that we’re in that position).

"'Only problem I have with Armanti is knowing he would have been there 2-3 rounds later.' to which Darin Gantt replies 'Wouldn't have been 1 full round later.'"

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 13, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries brother.

You are totally right.

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by ALAC on Dec 13, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

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