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Here's some early Paw Prints for you related to yesterday's game and some of the leading topics from the past 24 hours:

So how bad has is gotten in Carolina? Even the Browns fans are saying "At least we aren't the Panthers..."

P.M. Cleveland Browns links: Panthers could be the balm the Browns need; a little chortling in Jacksonville | cleveland.com
But moral victories don't translate to the standings. Cleveland fans are tired of saying, "They played hard, but we still lost." Still, it's the nature of the beast to find a bit of solace in saying, "Yeah, but at least we're not Carolina." The Panthers, who visit Cleveland next week, are 1-9 and coming off a 37-13 loss to Baltimore. Cleveland at least has hope each week, and a real future, especially with Colt McCoy at quarterback. All the Panthers have are moral victories.

We'll be back next year to stick it to all the Haters!

To me when a team owner fires his coach mid-season for poor performance it says they care. I don't get what Richardson thinks he is accomplishing by keeping Fox around.

Could John Fox follow Childress? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN
Although they’re certainly not playing well, the Panthers are at least playing hard. That’s a sign that Fox still has some respect in the locker room. Without a labor agreement for next season, Richardson’s not going to do anything drastic. This season is lost and going with an interim head coach isn’t going to accomplish anything.

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Flacco takes ownership of the red zone fumble blamed on  Ray Rice:

Fumbles, Red Zone Slow Ravens " Baltimore Ravens Blogs
"That was all me," Flacco said. "My head got scrambled a bit, which can’t happen and I went to hand it to Ray, I put it in his stomach and I’m like, ‘Why isn’t he taking it?’ And then I was like, ‘Oh yeah!’ So it was all me. I take full responsibility."

Now if only they would adjust my FFL score...

So what exactly is Kalil trying to say here, that maybe some of the young guys asked to step up are not exactly doing just that? Say it isn't so!

Fox blames himself for loss - CharlotteObserver.com
"Well, it's easy to ask that now, but only because it hasn't quite worked out the way we expected it to," Kalil said. "Obviously in a business, you don't have time for losses. It's easy to say you'd take a guy like Brad Hoover over (fullback) Tony (Fiammetta) any day. But I think Tony is a better choice for us in the long term. He's somebody who can be a Hoover-type. Unfortunately, it's not an ideal time. Not saying Tony's the problem, just giving an example of a key position that made our run game go last year. "It's different. It's not better or worse, it's different."

Like I've said many times, younger players make more mistakes, mistakes that can kill you in the end.

We have a new name for the Panther offense: 'makeshift'

Inside the Panthers: Just Gross: Tackle breaks down latest loss
"It’s a frustrating loss, a makeshift offense again," Gross said. "I thought Brian did an outstanding job for being here 10 days. It was close at the end and some bad plays there swung the score and the direction quickly. It kind of got away from us there at the end."

Of course its the same playbook as when the season started but hey...who's splitting hairs?

Will we have a battle of the rookie QB's this weekend in Cleveland?

Panthers' QB Jimmy Clausen optimistic he can go Sunday - CharlotteObserver.com
"I'm feeling a lot better than I did last week," Clausen said in the locker room. "I'm just trying to keep resting as much as I can to hopefully get back to play next week."

Should be another barn burner....

It would have been nice to see us try this again as least once later in the game:

Tom Talks: Trick is on Panthers - CharlotteObserver.com
Carolina tried a trick play on its first series. Quarterback Brian St. Pierre lined up at receiver, and center Ryan Kalil snapped the ball directly to running back Mike Goodson. He snapped the ball directly over Goodson’s head, and third and three became fourth and 16. The odds of a trick play working for the Panthers is 5%. The odds of a non-trick play working is 4%.

I got a big lol on the percentages laid down in the last two sentences!!

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As I've said elsewhere:

with a competent coaching staff this is a .500 team.

We’re nowhere near as bad as our record suggests. The NFL is in for a surprise next season.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 22, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

To me when a team owner fires his coach mid-season for poor performance it says they care.

That’s all it accomplishes really, and I question doing anything just to appease fans, who often are overemotional and not very smart.

Honestly, Brad Childress was a victim of Brett Favre. If Minnesota ownership wanted to right the ship, they’d get rid of Brett instead.

by SlayerGhaleon on Nov 22, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don’t think ownership put a gun to Chilly’s head and told him to head to Mississippi and woo Favre back.

Childress was shown for what he was, an incredibly mediocre head coach who couldn’t do anything without a QB having a pro-bowl year.

Before Favre they went 24-21
With Favre they went 15-11

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by James Dator on Nov 22, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Favre isn't even as bad as the stats show. Watch the nexxt Vikings game and I guarantee you at least 1 of the interceptions Brett throws will be all the WR's fault.

That was what happened the last few games. Brett made fine throws(not great but shouldn’t have been) and the WR’s tip it or just plain miss it.

by Roa on Nov 22, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

They were talking about the receiving corps for the Vikings on ESPN radio and it really was crazy.

- Rice has surgery
- Two days later they sign Javon Walker
- Two days after that they trade for Greg Camarillo
- One week later they sign Hank Baskett, cut Walker
- Then they trade for Moss
- Then they cut Moss
- Then Rice comes back

Couple all that movement with having no expectation your starting QB needs to be in training camp and it was recipe for disaster.

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by James Dator on Nov 22, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife can back me up on this

But when they snapped the ball over Goodson, I actually started laughing. She looked at me like I was crazy, then realized I wasn’t completely nuts.

Sometimes all this is left to do, is laugh.

by adamwanderer on Nov 22, 2010 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

Can scratch Leslie Frazier off the list now...

Both Jason Garret and Leslie Frazier are heirs-apparent as the interim head coaches for their respective teams. That list is getting shorter now for the next HC.

by aceofsween on Nov 22, 2010 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

I hope those teams stick with their guys next season,

+ the Panthers are putting a pretty good coach out into the market that will hopefully scratch another needy team off the list.

Rules and Regulations of the Game: 89, Bottom Line

by John Chilton on Nov 22, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

just a few numbers

1- # of quarterbacks in NCAA to rush for over 4,000 yards and pass for more than 10,000. Armanti Edwards (4,361 rushing & 10,392 passing)
1- # of people to win Walter Payton awar? (FCS equivalent to Heisman). Armanti Edwards (2008-2009)
313- # of rushing yards Edwards completed in one game. (2007 Richmond)
433- single game passing yds (2008 South Carolina State)
495- single game total offense yds (2007 Richmond)
2- # of national championships he played in and won (2007 ASU 28 UMass 17 / 2008 ASU 49 Delaware 21)
4- # of Southern Conference Championships he won (2006-2009)
42- # of wins he complied while at App State…one of those against Michigan and one of those against Joe Flacco and the Delaware Blue Hens

This kid is the real deal. still don’t believe me? youtube “The Armanti Edwards Show Against Richmond” and enjoy the highlights my friends…they don’t call him “Money” for nothing. He’s got talent.

by Pantherino13 on Nov 22, 2010 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

One more number

0- # of times took snap from under center at ASU.

by Mtndancer on Nov 22, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Another number

Googolpex – # of times this subject has been beaten to death on this blog

by adamwanderer on Nov 22, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

killer quote

“one of those against…”

when you have to qualify each win like that, you should already know he was not playing great teams

and i hope you can understand that he will never play QB in the NFL beyond wildcat packages… he was drafted as a WR

by vitzeng on Nov 22, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

richmond…really?!

by mangoes52 on Nov 22, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Coach Fox

“If you’re cooking dinner, you should be able to shop for the groceries”. ie. this isn’t Coach Fox’s team. These players are Richardson’s “money saving just in case we have a holdout” team. I don’t agree with all of Fox’s decisions, but he is still a damn good coach. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him coach the hated Cowboys to a Super Bowl win!

by tarheelz67 on Nov 22, 2010 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

How is this not Fox's team?

He’s been here for 9 years. Every player bar Smith (I think) was brought in under his reign.

Stop making excuses for the guy and realise that he’s done a shocking job this season.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Nov 23, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I SAY AGAIN!!!

The so-called Veterans are stinking up the Joint!!! Latest example…Kalil. Why don’t you do your job and snap the ball correctly instead of worrying about Fiametta and a Fullback thats not here anymore.

Bottom line – The rookies (and some 2nd year players) are doing their thing! These loses are coming at the hands of the Veterans!!

by DIRTYSMAC on Nov 23, 2010 9:02 AM EST reply actions  

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