Peppers Desires Take 180 Degree Turn
by Jaxon on Jan 31, 2010 10:13 AM EST
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PrintThis time last season Panthers DE Julius Peppers had a pretty good idea of where he wanted to play. He went so far as to issue a four team list of the only places he would sign. Though the four teams were never officially identified it was rumored to be Dallas, Philly, New England and Miami. When nothing happened he refused to sign is franchise tender until right before training camp. I don't think I need to remind you how that all turned out.
So do we have a new list this year? Nope, Peppers seems to be a little more flexible this year.
"Anywhere is a potential landing spot," he said after the final NFC practice yesterday for tonight's Pro Bowl. "I'm not going to say I want to play for any team or I prefer to play anywhere, because I really haven't thought about it.
"I haven't thought about playing for x, y or z."
So is there a lesson learned from last season at play here? Or is this Peppers way of saying "I hope the Panthers pay me so I don't have to think about it".I hope its the latter but I'm not hopeful in that regard.
more thoughts after the jump...
I think if the price is right Peppers would sign with the Panthers. What ever his issue was last season seems to have dissipated with the 2009 season. Whether that was the influence of DC Ron Meeks or DL coach Brian Baker I imagine we can only speculate. I do find it hard to believe Peppers would go anywhere. He wants to win and isn't about to go to a rebuilding team like Cleveland or St. Louis.
I personally have a hard time thinking the Big Cat will pay the large price its going to take to retain Peppers so I've resigned myself to his leaving. I just hope we get something in return other that just a compensation pick in next year's draft. I also hope we goes to the AFC with a 3-4 scheme we can see once for all if he is a 'freak' or just a greatly gifted athlete!
I don't think Peppers wants another franchise tag this year in spite of the huge sum it would generate. I imagine he is ready to know where he is going to be the next 5 seasons and most likely completion of career. Being in limbo for a season weighs on you so if you have a choice to get stability the tendency is to do just that.
I would like for Peppers to stay in electric blue but I'm hopefully. Where he ends up it appears all anyone can do is guess, even Peppers.
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B-BYE
I say, au- revoir, arrivederci, soooo long,mmmB-BYE now, and get out!!!!!!!!! go play 5 games a year for the pats or the c-boys and ruin there defenses!!!!!!!! Do not stay here and hold the panthers hostage again this year!!!! Pep is done! if he were that good someone would have snapped him up last season. He is getting old and he is lazy. We have good coaches around a great talent in E. Brown and we simply don’t need pep anymore. Oh and as he goes send FOX and DAVIS W/ HIM!!!!!!!!!!
"Davis with him"??
I hope you’re talking about me, and not Thomas Davis.
davidson
my bad…………angry typing!!! Davidson is who i meant. and no I aint joking!!!! does anyone really enjoy watching peppers show up for meaningless games? He rattled the vikings o-line well……..too little too late! I concede he is a freak, once in while, and i would rather see consistent pressure than there one min. and gone the next!! Again, a fond farewell to pep!! Oh and he appeared to hurt his lazy ass in the pro bowl so it may be a non issue anyway……..
i thought you meant TD
that was the confusion in my comment
by jojoisthemann on Feb 1, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
JP
JP has been with the panthers for a while, and I don’t think the Panthers should let him go. I think the Panthers should put Jake Delehome on the bench as back up QB because it’s clear that he’s washed up, and put Matt Moore as Starting QB at a higher pay rate. Then, they should take all that extra money they’ve been paying Jake to throw a Career high in interceptions, and give it to JP, as well as providing Steve Smith with a little help on the other side of the feild, while keeping Muhammed to cut across the Middle. Pay JP in a long haul Contract, if that’s what he’s concerned about, and send Jake’s washed up ass home, or on the bench as back up. He doesn’t deserve the money he’s getting to send us up Shit’s Creek! Give the money to the Players who are accually contributing to our progression, and stability, not our losing record!
With Love,
King Nova
Just to better understand..
You realize that rather Jake rides the bench or plays, he still gets paid, right? Or are you referring to performance incentives? Or restructuring his contract again?
Btw, welcome to CSR King Nova.
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PS
I agree, I don’t want to see Peppers go anywhere. The closer we get, the more I get that “don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone” feeling. We think we can replace him without a significant decrease in performance but we certainly don’t know.
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Peppers wont go to free agency
The team will franchise him again if it came to that. Especially in an uncapped season
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by James Dator on Jan 31, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
To me, this says, directly to the Panthers FO...
“I’d like to stay but you’ve got to pay what my skills are worth – if not, I’ll be looking at all options.”
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Peppers would have signed last year "if the price was right"
i want him to stay but looks like he’s going to play hardball and squeeze as much money as possible
Panthers to let Peppers walk
Adam Schefter reported a little while ago “Mounting evidence the Panthers will not tag DE Julius Peppers and he will test free agency. Panthers insist they’ve not reached a decision.”
Davis at DE
maybe we should get a OLB and try Thomas Davis at RE. He is quick and can get to the QB and RB in a blink like Pepps but younger.
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by pinstriped_panther on Jan 31, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Davis is an excellent OLB
and I think Brown, Brayton and Johnson and whoever else the Panthers may bring im will be enough to fill that gap
by jojoisthemann on Feb 1, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Johnson and Brayton
hopefully they will
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by pinstriped_panther on Feb 1, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Give me Johnson & Brown on passing downs, Johnson & Brayton on running downs and I’m good.
Add a rookie and we’ve got a nice rotation going. I’m going to pretend Hilee Taylor doesn’t exist for this conversation.. is he still wearing our uniform?
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I like the creativity, but I don't think you could move David to DE
He was a converted safety coming out of college at 6 ft, 240 lbs he’s still on the smaller end on OLBs, more than 20 lbs less than Dwight Freeney I don’t even think his speed could get him past tackles.
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Peppers agent is claiming the Panthers are giving Peppers the 'silent treatment'
Definately worth a read.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Or would be, but it won't post >.>
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
You know how you only hear from good agents every once in a while… like… almost never.
Keep that in mind Carl Carey and shut your mouth.
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by James Dator on Jan 31, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
Rosenhaus talks more than most agents and he’s one of the best.
Having said that, shut your piehole Carey! We don’t need you mucking our offseason up.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Feb 1, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions
Rosenhaus represents over 150 NFL players though, including Jon Beason and Richard Marshall
Carey represents one.
When you do hear from Rosenhaus it’s normally pretty big, and a pretty bad situation but that only happens about every other year. Carey meanwhile, keeps showing why he’s never negotiated an NFL contract.
The week after the superbowl the NFLPA and the owner’s association are going to sit down and take another crack at a new CBA. Why would the Panthers broker a deal now before knowing what the cap could be?
Why do I understand this and Mr. Carey doesn’t?
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You Got That Right
Peppers and the Panthers learned this last year. Carl Carey is an idiot, and can’t keep his mouth shut. The Panthers won’t fall into this trap with the Big Cat back in charge. The Big Cat will school Carl. Peps first move should be to fire this chump.
Boy I hope
I hope that the Eagles can scoop him for a minimum amount of hassle.
Is there any way we can take him off your hands without giving up any picks for him? That would be great.
Well
Not on defense… our only really solid playmaker on defense is Trent Cole, and you could make a case for Asante Samuel possibly.
really??
man i hope someone like byedawk sees your dumb posts and rips you a new one…he would do much more eloquently than i could…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 5, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
FREE AGENT
unless the panthers franchise him again, he will cost NO picks….c’mon man you’re makin eagles fans look bad…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 5, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions
panthers wont tag him??
That’s like pissing up a rope. If there’s no cap then tag him. If someone wants him they won’t mind paying the rate in an uncapped year and then we get some picks. If not then we have him again.
Personally I think he wants the moneys. Close to 40 mill in two years…balliiin! That would just be smart business on his end. Get paid. He knows his career isn’t going to last forever.
So yeah if I was him id want the 38 million and then sign a nice contract for 5 years. Its nothing personal…its strictly business ;)
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 3:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
ps
Pep is the friggin man! Don’t forget it. I really don’t care about when people say he decides to show up…when he does decide he is unstoppable! And if we play against him we will lose. I don’t want to ever see that day. It would be a very important game like a playoff or the sb and he will own 69s life and demolish moore. He will decide to show up that day.
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 3:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far..
The one area Peppers lacks is against the run.. Granted a majority of teams can’t stop our ground attack, I don’t think there are many teams that would be able to do so even with Peppers. While we may not win (can’t win them all), I certainly wouldn’t chalk it up to a loss beforehand just because Peppers is playing against us.
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granted we probably shouldnt
But if I had to put money on the panthers or peppers then I’m putting it on peppers…depending on the team of course. I’m not saying if he goes to the lions then they will beat us. But if he does make it to a NE or BAL or DAL and it becomes a situation where the QB needs to win the game then we will lose.
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
btw
He might not stop the run all that much but he runs backs down from behind. He makes me real proud when he does that.
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by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
Hopefully
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
panthers keeping peppers
i thank it is a must for the panthers to keep peppers, he is one of if not the defensive ends in the game. if you can give a complete bump like jake 45 million for throwing 20 plus ints. for the last to seasons why not give peppers 50-75 millon over the next 5 or 6 season and take your chances of peppers, beason and that defense help williams,stewart,smith,and moore along with that offense give you a championship or 2 within the next 5or 6 years you can lose with that. but honestly cut jake keep juluis and you win if not you may be making a really big mistake.
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But what would cutting Jake do for us? Not only would we then have to pay him but also someone to replace him unless we entered the season with only Moore and Cantwell at QB. I suppose we could resign McCown or Feeley but that still leaves us paying ‘Jake money’ + back-up money, instead of just ‘Jake money’.
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Pep
is the MAN! Period. There is no other DE that can touch him. I only hope the FO agrees w/me. I don’t care about the Procton types.
+1
Pay him…pay that man his money
Richardson you better not screw this up for me!
by STEVEN 785 on Feb 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Peps
A couple friends of mine at school(Eagles fans) say Peppers is washed up and Trent Cole is so much better (yeah right.) I hope he is resigned so they can actually see that he can beat anybody on the left tackle playing for the Panthers.
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by pinstriped_panther on Feb 1, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions
SF?
I heard someone float the idea of trading Pep to the Niners in exchange for our original 1st rounder and their 3rd rounder. Ya know; that wouldn’t be a bad deal. Worth a looksee.
I'd go for it.
Even without the 3rd.
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Definitely!
At that pick, we have a shot at Dez Bryant, Damian Williams, or even Brian Price. Rolando Mclain is also a possibility, him at SAM along with TD and Beason would be, dare I say it, BEASTLY! Derrick Morgan is also a possibility there too. Getting one of those guys would be worth losing Peppers IMO.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
omg
No one player in this draft is going to as good or better than julius peppers…myabe at no point in their career. And let’s not get ahead here. Pep might not sign his tender untill OTAs.
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by STEVEN 785 on Feb 2, 2010 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Technically we have absolutely no way of knowing if these players will be better than Pep at some point in their career. I mean, Peppers came out of a college draft as well. He wasn’t the first and I highly doubt he would be the last great player. With that said, if Pep doesn’t want to be here any longer, I’d certainly take a young player with something to prove and tons of upside over a great vet whom is begrudgingly lining up on our defense.
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Not to mention we have replacements on our roster for Pep to minimize the impact losing him will create
It’s not like losing Smitty from our receiving corps, Peppers replacements are more than capable.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Feb 3, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
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