Panther Paw Prints: NFC South Supremacy Edition
That's right I said it...well actually Pat Y said it first and the facts back it up. Since the NFL realigned to its current division format in 2002 the NFC South has sent more teams to the NFC Championship then the NFC East:
I looked it up and he’s right. Since the NFL went to its current division format in 2002, the NFC South has sent six teams to the NFC Championship Game, including the Saints this season. The NFC East has sent five -- and let's include a shout-out to our friends in Dallas: The Cowboys represent zero in that equation -- with four trips by Philadelphia and one by the Giants.
Ouch on those recently routed Cowboys!...What's all this talk of the Panthers not having a 1st round draft pick. I bet we get one for DE Julius Peppers:
Improving Pass Rush Is Among Patriots' Many Offseason Needs - New England Patriots - NESN.com
Linebacker Tully Banta-Cain had a career season with 9.5 sacks, but he was the Patriots' only real threat to get to the quarterback. It would be nice if the Patriots could add one pass rusher, but they really need at least two -- in addition to re-signing Banta-Cain. Guys like Carolina defensive end Julius Peppers and San Diego linebacker Shawne Merriman come to mind, and each player will likely be attainable. Either way, the Pats need someone with a motor at defensive end and outside linebacker to bring the ferocity back to their defense.
How about your front office call our ours? ... But there's other options for a 1st round pick...
It's already been mentioned in a comment thread, but the Panthers might just let Matt Moore go, if the offer is right:
Matt Moore = 1st Rd Qualifying Offer - Carolina Panthers Message Board
Since Matt Moore is a RFA i suggest we set his minimum at a 1st Round Qualifying Offer. Moore in my opinion is better than any QB coming out of this draft, or coming into the FA Market. I haven't seen the numbers for 2010 Qualifying offers yet, but for 2009 they were around: Minimum Offer - $1.1 million 2nd round pick offer - $1.545 million 1st round pick offer - around $2.1 million 1st and 3rd round picks offer - around $2.7 million.
Or if you prefer to hear it from one of the professionals:
Breaking down the Panthers roster for next season | season, breaking, starter - Sports - Gaston Gazette
One thing to consider: The team might have to be careful with Moore, who’ll be a restricted free agent. Even if the Panthers offer him the highest tender, another quarterback-starved franchise might be willing to part with a first- and third-round pick to get him. The team doesn’t want to lose him, so a long-term contract might be the way to go if they’re sold on him.
Even at $2.7M that's a low number for a starting QB. But if Jake is going to start anyway then getting even just a #1 for Moore has to be tempting with the depth at QB in this draft. Add in a 3rd rounder and that's two good picks for a former UDFA. Now that's how you scout and develop talent.
Here's another example of that, this time the so-called guru said the Panthers wasted their 3rd round pick:
Top Five, All-Time Wide Receivers of the Carolina Panthers | Cat Crave | A Carolina Panthers blog
Fun Fact: A Sports Illustrated draft expert said that the Panthers wasted their third-round pick on a player who would never amount to more than a punt returner.
That simple 'punt returner' is now 89...maker of NFL Rules & Regulations....Now that we know John Fox is staying for the 2010 season we can end the rumors...or can we? I'm sure we will hear this one all season:
Giants' Coughlin on the Hot Seat
One would think that the organization would give Coughlin a pass for this season, but if the struggles continue in 2010, his job might just be in jeopardy, especially with a report from Jerome Bettis that Bill Cowher could be interested in the New York job. John Fox will likely be an option for the Giants come 2011 as well.
Fox will now be mentioned in every opening that comes up until JR extends him....Got any sponsors in mind for the Panthers?
In bid for sponsors, Carolina Panthers' next season is already under way - Charlotte Business Journal:
Morrison and the front office face crucial issues of their own between now and the start of summer training camp: to lock in ticket renewals, land new backers and put renewed sizzle into the NFL franchise’s marketing blitz.
Here's my ideas:
- Viagra - For the Panther in you!
- Cialis - For the two Panthers in you!
- Trojan - For the Beer-goggled Panther
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The Matt Moore RFA tender talk is very curious.
It would be quite interesting if the Panthers traded Pep for a 1st rounder, then lost Moore and got a 1st and a 3rd round pick.
All of a sudden that Panthers walk into April with two 1sts, one 2nd and two 3rds.
Unlikely, but curious.
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by James The Aussie on Jan 20, 2010 7:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It is very curious...
Would the Panthers really let Moore get away only to draft a low round QB and pay an unproven commodity a lot more than they would pay Moore? I just don;t see it happening…but I want a 1st round pick!
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by Jaxon on Jan 20, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need a first round pick
The only positions where a first round pick could even have a chance to compete for a starting job would be WR and DT, and I’m not convinced that those positions are wide open. The cost to sign a first rounder wouldn’t be worth the benefit to the team. Also, drafting a QB would be very risky with Jake on the roster. The only ways that it could turn out well would be if Good Jake reports to camp and can start (this would give us a starter, a proven back-up, and a QB for the future), or if the rookie could come into camp, win the starting job and play like Dan Marino his rookie year. If Moore turns out to be a good QB, the draftee will sit on the bench until he’s a free agent, and then sign with another team.
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well sure maybe we don't NEED a 1st round pick
but we are about to lose a Pro Bowl DE…a 1st round pick might afford us the best possibility to replace him. There are plenty of other positions where we do not have a PB-quality player. You can’t have too many can you? Unless your busting a salary cap…but drafting them is the cheapest way to afford them.
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by Jaxon on Jan 20, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we could get Everson, we’d have Everson and Everette. The®Everends :)… (4)Everends… and any other borderline moronic terms that include “ever”.
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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 20, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Carlos Dunlap....
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by Jaxon on Jan 20, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Think he'd be available?
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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 20, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
What player/position is worth the money and the loss of a proven player? I don’t follow college sports well enough to have heard of someone that will be worth all that.
by panthersnbraves on Jan 20, 2010 8:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If St. Louis fell in love with Matt Moore and gave us the #1 pick...
Ndamukong Suh is worth it. He’s a DT from Nebraska, and could be the most special defensive player I’ve ever seen.
There’s almost no chance that would happen though.
You have to see him to believe his ability… so, watch away.
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by James The Aussie on Jan 20, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would give Moore to St. Louis to draft Suh
that kid is a beast — but you’re right — probably no chance at it happening
by bwsmith25 on Jan 20, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Well yeah, trading Moore for the first overall pick would be great, but your use of the word “probably” is unnecessary. In the real world, I doubt that any team would part with “only” a first round pick at any slot for him. I think that he’ll be tendered at the 1st and 3rd rate (he’s more than worth that even if Jake beats him out in TC, which I don’t think will happen) so I don’t think that we’ll lose him.
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Suh
I’m kind of etchy on Suh though. IN college he didn’t have to line up against the best of the best. Just keep my boy, the real Matty Ice.
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by pinstriped_panther on Jan 27, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So we give Moore away and then what? resign ourselves to Jake again?
by EyeSack on Jan 20, 2010 9:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking sign Jason Campbell since he will be a free agent
by bwsmith25 on Jan 20, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we keep Moore, yes. But I don’t want him to be the ONLY option (Delhomme is not an option).
by ERL on Jan 20, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
probably won't be available to us
Campbell is a RF who was a 1st round pick. If the Skins tender him, we don’t have a 1st round pick to compensate them.
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking more that if we got a 1st and 3rd for Moore, then a 1st for Peppers we could spend a 1st rounder on a DT, DE or WR then another 1st rounder to get say… Sam Bradford.
Then sign a Jason Campbell for the short term.
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by James The Aussie on Jan 20, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, wow and WOW
I know this all speculation, but man some of the ideas I’m hearing would work a lot easier in say, Madden?
by SmithnCompany on Jan 20, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True..
But what fun is an off season without borderline insane speculation?
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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 20, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or as MP so cleverly called it last offseason...rigorous Rosterbation!
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by Jaxon on Jan 21, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you're posting fantasy transactions...
here’s one to drooll over (or laugh at.)
Our 2nd round pick for Anquan Bolden. Here’s how. He’s in the final year of his contractand he’s unhappy with it but he’s resigned to the fact that the Cardinals won’t renegotiate. He’ll be an UFA at the end of next season and it doesn’t look like he’ll want to resign with AZ. With Breaston emerging as a legitimate no. 2, maybe the Cards will want to trade Bolden when he has value rather than to let him walk for no return in 2011.
Yeah, maybe we’d only have him for one season, but having AB opposite SM for even one season would be worth a second round pick.
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather wait
And sign him to multiple years in 2011 while not surrendering any picks.
by ERL on Jan 20, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his injuries have to concern you as well.
by ERL on Jan 20, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He will be too expensive for the Panthers tastes...
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by Jaxon on Jan 20, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that we’ll be able to afford him long term if we have to worry about a salary cap.
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I vote we trade them Tank for Suh………………………….
No go? Well, it was worth a shot.
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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 20, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
no way!!
It’s tank and that’s our final offer
by gripbd on Jan 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I think we are just fine without a first. This years QB class has taken a hit, a lot of guys went back to school. Clausen, Bradford, Pike, and Snead are the only guys I see with franchise potential. There are several later round, developmental QB’s, but nothing spectacular. Our biggest need, WR, is also the deepest in this draft. A first round pick might get us a Damian Williams, Dez Bryant, or Golden Tate. Then we have to get a QB. Our second rounder could get us Tate, Brandon Lafell, Arrelious Benn, or Demaryius Thomas. Along with Moore, I think that’s our best bet.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Jan 21, 2010 7:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Trade Moore start Jake again?
Are we trying to ship wreck this franchise? At least with Moore behind him there was reason for hope. Now theres potential to crush whatever hope is left? Que asco!
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by southtunnel on Jan 22, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd trade Pep for a first
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Jan 23, 2010 4:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I traded Pep for Steve Breaston & a 3rd rounder in Football Mogul 2010.
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by D-Ranged1 on Jan 23, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd do that too.
We get a good #2, along with some extra picks.
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by Flowing Willow on Jan 24, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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