Panthers Fall to Steelers 21-10 in Preseason Finale
Going 0-4 in the preseason isn't exactly the preferred way to prepare for a season but the Panthers will start season just like that none the less. Preseason game 4 mean absolutely nothing so I will spare the doom and gloom because in the end I think our 1st team offense would put up more points if they played the entire game. Instead here are my capsules from the game which as I look it over it looks like a repeat from the previous two preseason games.
The Good:
- When talking about the Good there is no better place to start than rookie RB Mike Goodson. He again looked brilliant running (15 for 79 yds, 5.3 TPC) and catching the ball (2 for 13 yds) but still made some rookie mistakes. He got run over trying to block DE James Harrison which led to a sack and fumble and then had a costly fumble in the red zone. I know the coaching staff wants to get this kid on the field but the turnovers have to be a concern.
- I feel like a broken record in my praise of WR Kenny Moore (6 for 59 yds) but he again delivered big time. After watching Moose stone hand a pass I started to think Moore could be the #2 on this team by the end of the season. That off-season work with Steve Smith has paid off big time. I even loved his post game interview in that he wasn't happy with his performance (he had an illegal motion penalty). This guy is a keeper.
- WR Dwayne Jarrett finally showed something getting 4 catches for 44 yards. With a long of 11 yards though I wonder why the Panthers don't try to use his height downfield.
- DE Charles Johnson recorded 1.5 sacks as he showed nice speed coming off the edge. He should see increased PT in 2009.
- DT Nick Hayden had his best game as a Panther. He had 3 tackles, half a sack, a QB hurry and a nice tackle for a loss. But was it enough to stay with the team? Probably but more help at DT is needed.
- New Panther DT Louis Leonard got significant action and he appeared to play well ringing up a tackle for a loss.
- Rookie RG Duke Robinson had some nice blocks when pulling to support outside runs
The Bad
- Neither QB Matt Moore (49 rating, pick 6 INT) or Josh McCown (11 for 15, fumble) distinguished themselves from the other in my view. McCown had a decent rating of 86 but he missed a wide open Jeff King for an easy TD. Overall it's a toss up in my view meaning for the #2 McCown holds his spot.
- The PR coverage was horrid in giving up a 80 return for a TD for Stefan Logan.
- RG Keydrick Vincent got run over by LB Kenyaron Fox for a sack. He's got 80 lbs on the guy but went down like a domino.
- The back-up offensive line got pushed around a lot, gave up too much penetration and didn't inspire anything but doubt. It will be interesting to see who sticks.
- Sideline reporter Pete Yannity called WR Kenny Moore a UDFA during the broadcast when he's actually a 5th round pick in 2008 of the Lions. He then repeated his error during his post game interview with Moore. Moore coolly corrected Yannity in his response and then conveyed his dismay with his own performance right after Yannity praised his game. So he's cool and mature too. What's not to love about him?
The Bubble Watch
- RB Jamal Lee finally got significant playing time and he responded fairly (11 for 37 yds). You can tell he has some potential with his size and speed though he does still run a little upright. Look for Lee to make the practice squad.
- RB Decori Birmingham and T Patrick Brown didn't get on the field and it cannot be good for their chances. Time for them to cut bait.
- S Joe Fields missed a couple tackles so I'm bearish on him. Look for Quinton Teal to be the back-up SS.
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From reading the game thread
Basically my take was:
Moore, Moore, Goodson, Yes
Moore, Moore, Goodson, Yes
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Nice little chant there. But since I couldn’t watch it. Sounds like we have two very solid additions.
by LittleKing on Sep 4, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kudos to...
I don’t remember who said it, but when we picked up Moore last year, I remember someone saying watch out for this kid. I was hoping Jason Carter would come back with something this year at that time, but whoever said keep an eye out for Moore I just want to give you props.
by LittleKing on Sep 4, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Moore becomes integral part of this offense
Then I can see him becoming a fan favorite. Home town kid from just down the street, who grew up idolizing this team.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be our next Hoover.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 4, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, Bad, Ugly, and really Ugly
Good – Moore and Jarrett showed up!
Bad – Knee injury to DT Corvey Irvin is a big concern
Ugly – Very poor punt coverage
Really Ugly – Tunrovers galore!
Good – No injuries to starters
Ugly – Keydrick Vincent – Let’s hope his feet were just tangled up or something
Good – Dante Rosario made a sweet one hander. (Where has he been since week 1 last year?)
Bad – Kenny Morre’s penalty wiped out the gain
Really Ugly – McCown – I would not be sad if he is cut on Saturday – Let’s find someone else
by docnolz on Sep 4, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rosario
I’m wondering if he is a preseason standout that will be a do nothing player during the season.
by LittleKing on Sep 4, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely forgot about Rosario's one-handed catch
Didn’t matter to me it was nullified by a penalty.
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by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Goodson?
My favorite part of that play was the blitz pick-up by Goodson, to set up the pass.
He’s getting better. He’ll be a nice addition.
by BSKincaid on Sep 4, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Munnerlyn?
He had a really nice tackle, where the receiver was running a quick hitch route. Munnerlyn ran up like 10 yards, and tackled him right around the line of scrimmage. Now that’s Meeks ball! Soft preventative coverage, but then swarm to the ball! I really hope he makes the team.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we are being too easy on these guys
We keep saying everything will be OK because our offense will score more points. But they haven’t. I can only remember one 1st team TD. The only thing positive we have been able to talk about all pre-season is our backup RB and WR. And to be honest, our defense looks worse than last year. We are already banged up, and going into one of the toughest schedules in the league. That does not bode well.
I’m just trying to be realistic. It’s not impossible to still have a good season… it just doesn’t look like that’s going to be the case.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our offense seems to start every game slow
We were down to the Lions early last season. But they get it in gear in the second half. At least this is how I pacify myself when I get close to the edge!
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by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But remember the Redskins game?
Our offense looked really good going into game one.
My point is this… With the difficult schedule coming up, we have to better than last year. So far we look worse, which I think is valid cause for concern.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Who likes realistic fans? Are you going to do your part and cheer when you really think we’re not much better than a 7-9 team? Our defense will stiffen up when we get Beason and Davis back in and the players turn it on for the regular season, not to mention tackling has been such a weakness that the staff can’t help but address it. Offensively, I’m not worried.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being overly optomistic doesn't get you anywhere
I cheer every time DeAngelo breaks off a big run and Smitty makes an insane grab. But I’m not going to cheer for every missed tackle or turn over. I want to win a real Superbowl not just fantasize about it.
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by southtunnel on Sep 5, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI...
Decori Birmingham didn’t see the field because he was held out due an injury (concussion suffered against Baltimore last week). That’s part of the reason Jamall Lee saw so much action. But they were also giving the Canadian Kid an opportunity to showcase for other scouts in the event they cut him. Or, they wanted to assess him further for themselves so they could weigh the option of trying to put him on the practice squad.
Other than that, I think they’d probably still take Birmingham over Lee. Not sure if Birmingham has PS eligibility left (but I think he does?). Otherwise, I just don’t see us having the roster spot to keep either with the 53.
by NSpicer on Sep 4, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That makes much more sense
I didn’t see anything to think they should keep Lee over Birmingham. Goodson and Birmingham were a pretty decent 1-2 punch last week.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't know about the concussion
makes sense
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by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenny Moore is moving up the list of my favorite players. The kid has a good head on his shoulders – I like that, especially in a league full of diva WR’s.
I’m impressed with Goodson, but his tendency to cough up the ball worries me a little bit. If he can learn how to hold on to the ball we might have ourselves a “poor man’s Brian Westbrook” who can be deadly on screens and as a slot receiver.
by bwsmith25 on Sep 4, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moore
Wake Forest fans are not surprised at all by Moore’s success. They were surprised that he went so low in the draft and then was cut. I wish I could find a youtube video of the Meineke bowl in Charlotte a couple of years ago – he was dominant. Here’s a plug from SI before the 2007 draft about players who will probably be overlooked;
Kenneth Moore helped save Wake Forest’s amazing 11-3 season in 2006 by moving from wide receiver to running back the last five games and gained more than 500 yards rushing including 165 yards at Maryland and 80 yards rushing and five catches in a 30-0 win at Florida State. This season, Moore caught 98 balls. Not as explosive as many players, but if he is taken in the fourth round or later, his unselfish versatility as a third-down back/slot WR/return man will reward the team that drafts him.
by Run4est on Sep 4, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For all of our focus on Goodson
He won’t touch the ball for weeks I bet except on kick offs. Unless we are up big but I doubt that anytome soon. It’s just not Fox’s MO to trust rookies much.
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by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Especially rookies with 2 fumbles under their belt. However what if Stewart starts off rusty? I seem to be the only one that thinks the lack of practice could slow him down at first. But out of caution or if the injury keeps nagging… Goodson could see more time that way.
However if he fumbles at the goaline in a real game, he might not see the field for awhile.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goodson's limits
Goodson’s been good but he does have some issues. He fumbles way too much. His blocking has not impressed me (too many oles). And he doesn’t have the build to be a 3rd and 1 ball carrier. So when exactly do you use him if Williams and Stewart are both healthy?
by TheMightyM on Sep 4, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you use him in 3rd and 1?
He is a change of pace back. After dealing with DeAngelo and Stewart pounding and stiff-arming their way, left, right and up the gut… The last thing they will want to deal with is an even speedier guy around the edges. I think he will be used late in the game to secure a lead, after defenses have already worn down. And maybe occasionally on quick hitch routes, or screen passes… The guy has made some great catches.
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect you'll see Goodson used...
…on 3rd and long. They used to bring in Nick Goings from time to time as the RB in spread formations. Goodson would be ideal for that too when we’re not using Deangelo in the spread offense, because of his ability to take a screen pass, a dump off in the flat, or even a draw play and turn it into a first down about as effectively as a receiver catching it downfield.
But that’s just my two-cents,
—Neil
by NSpicer on Sep 4, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to keep a positive attitude about our team.
I hope I don’t have to eat my words come next Sunday.
by tarheelfan on Sep 4, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goodson is going to see action because I dont think Stewart is going to be ready to go this season.
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by D.W.G. on Sep 4, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Stewarts practices next week then we will have the answer
Fox rarely plays a player coming off injury that doesn’t practice first.
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by Jaxon on Sep 4, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by southtunnel on Sep 4, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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