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Panthers Monday Morning Optimist- 9/29 (Tuesday Edition)

After last night abysmal performance against Dallas I sat on my sofa trying to think of some positives for today’s article. Every time I thought of one, it was passable at best and the pessimism was rife. So, forgive me if I appear a little more pessimistic today that my normal, chipper self.

 

It all starts at the top and in this case a special shout out needs to go to Marty Hurney. Why? It’s simple… we never should have franchised Julius Peppers in the first place. It was clear Peppers didn’t want to remain a Carolina Panther and his desire was questionable to begin with, so, rather than part ways (as bad as it would be) we got ourselves on the hook for $18 million dollars.

 

If we hadn’t spent that money it is likely Ken Lucas would still be a Panther, we would have depth at DT, our special teams could be better, we could have gotten a WR… the list goes on. Regardless of team need there needed to be a voice of reason to say "Is it right we’re putting so much money into one player?" There didn’t seem to be that voice, and now we’re paying for it. The franchise tag should be a tool to buy time to allow for a contract extension (see Jordan Gross) not as a means to keep a disgruntled player on roster who isn’t going to show up.

 

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Before I break down the players and personnel themselves I feel I need to also mention John Fox. Fox was not mentioned in last week’s ‘optimist’ as I instead chose to focus on the co-coordinators. However, as it stands right now on Tuesday morning I have lost faith in our head coach. There was always a constant from the Panthers that you could rely on, a quantifiable "We’ll always run the ball first" mentality in Charlotte that was distinctly John Fox. Last night we saw that philosophy crumble, whither and die all within one half of football. The Arizona game was justifiable, after all we were down big early, and we had to throw to get back in it. Philadelphia was pegged on Jake, and rightfully so… he made bad decisions. Last night? Well, I don’t think anyone knows what happened last night. We were controlling the game going into the half, sloppy? Yes, but we were in control. DeAngelo Williams was averaging 6.8 ypc and the Cowboys didn’t seem to have a solid answer for him. Something changed at half time; something must have occurred in the locker room that caused the team to believe throwing the ball was the answer in the second half. Jeff Davidson will get his later in the column, but what has happened to pull this team away from John Fox’s philosophy?

 

Changes need to be made… but sadly, and realistically we can’t do it right now. I think the search for a new head coach needs to begin, but we don’t have any coaches in the organization who I would be comfortable turning the keys over to. The buzz from the fan base will be for Bill Cowher, who still hasn’t indicated he’s interested in coaching; however, we need to start the search. It’s a sad day in Charlotte, John Fox was clearly the best coach we’ve ever had… but the entire organization can’t crumble to save one man’s job and it appears he’s losing control of the team.

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OPTIMISTIC

 

Thomas Davis- Very Optimistic: Davis is flying to the ball and flourishing in Meek’s defense. Davis ended with 4 tackles, 1 sack and 1 pass defended. He was involved in almost every play of the defense and was the source of a lot of Tony Romo’s frustrations in the first half. Davis did everything asked of him, and more.

 

Jon Beason- Very Optimistic: I debated whether to give him this distinction or not, but in the end I had to. He was another bright spot on the defense recording 10 tackles, 1 sack and 1 pass defended. Beason was furious on the sidelines towards the end of the game, and that’s something to be optimistic about. If the leader is as angry as the fan base about the state of the defense, then it shows he realizes there is a problem.

 

DeAngelo Williams- Very Optimistic: It’s not his fault if he’s not handed the ball. When he did have the ball in his hands he was lightning. 11 carries, 64 yards, 5.8 ypc. No excuse why he didn’t get the ball more though.

 

Jason Baker- Very Optimistic: He’s leading the NFL in punting and forced Patrick Crayton out of bounds on a PR. Couldn’t ask for much more.

 

Dante Rosario - Somewhat Optimistic: The Ghost of Wesley Walls missed a bad block early, but redeemed himself in the second quarter. Being our only real receiving threat all night is enough to give him a bump.


Ron Meeks (first half) - Somewhat Optimistic: The blitz schemes were confusing Dallas, and the plan was working. It would have been amazing if the defensive players could finish a tackle. They need to bring in some rugby coaches to teach them how to tackle, in my humble opinion. The LBs were flying around so much it made us look like we were running and 3-4 and they got excellent penetration.

 

PESSIMISTIC

 

Jeff Davidson - Extremely pessimistic: My first vote for who needs to get the chopping block. I don’t understand how a man who can improve the run game with smart blocking schemes in 2008 can completely abandon it in 2009. If the plan was to throw the ball 35 times a game then we never should have drafted Jonathan Stewart and gotten a WR. Pathetic play calling: In the first half the play action pass worked because the run was a threat, in the second half, without the run as a threat, it only gave the pass rush more time to get to Jake. Davidson has proved ineffective, and unable to work with the Panther offensive personnel, it’s time to say bye-bye to Jeff.

 

Julius Peppers - Extremely Pessimistic: People predicted he would have a big game in big D as an audition for 2010. Well, it didn’t really go that way. Julius had less tackles than Nick Hayden… let that sink it. Furthermore he missed a bad tackle that resulted in the 40 yard gain by Felix Jones and was continually shut down by Flozell Adams and/or Jason Witten… absolutely pathetic play.

 

Charles Godfrey- Extremely Pessimistic: When he wasn’t slipping, sliding and missing tackles he was blowing coverage and allowing big gains; Completely inexcusable for our starting FS.

 

Jake Delhomme- Somewhat Pessimistic: Sadly, it seems that his arm strength is sinking faster than the Titanic. The first INT was all on Jake; could Moose have made a play for it? Sure, but that doesn’t excuse the underthrown ball. Before the Tommy John surgery Jake would overthrow on that play… maybe age is catching up with him. Second INT was on Steve Smith for not running the route, he said so himself. The ball was out as Smitty was making the cut; he just chose to go outside instead of inside. Jake had a very bright two minute drill that included two lovely passes to Dante Rosario, so he avoids ‘very pessimistic’, at least for now.

 

Captain Munnerlyn- Somewhat Pessimistic: Rookie mistakes I know, but not enough to absolve him from the missed tackles as well as the blown coverage. We can’t anoint him the next Champ Bailey yet.

 

Ron Meeks (second half) - Somewhat pessimistic: Gets a ‘somewhat’ rather than a ‘very’ because the defense were tired and worn down due to the lack of offense. Still, moving away from the blitz was very disheartening, especially after seeing what our defense could do in the first half.

 

Steve Smith - Somewhat Pessimistic: I know he was being doubled all game, but that second INT can’t go without blame. As bad as we were playing we were still in the game at that point. On a quick throw like that a veteran can’t ‘improvise’ his route.

 

Final Assessment: 10% optimistic going into the Bye-week.

 

There isn’t a lot to look forward to except change, and the fact it’s a bye week. If there’s one thing I know about the Big Cat it’s that he won’t make major changes during the season, so expect John Fox and Marty Hurney to remain through the rest of 2009. Meeks should get a pass for now, as the defense showed some hope, but on the offensive end Davidson needs to go… now. The players look as frustrated as the fans, and while the players should not be absolved from yesterday’s loss a lot of it falls on the play calling.

 

We come back from the bye-week against Washington which is always an emotional contest in the Carolinas and definitely a winnable game for the Panthers, however, there need to be some changes. I won’t be looking at optimism heading into Washington until next week, when we see if any shake up has happened, but right now I don’t have a lot of hope. If this season ends up being as bad as it could be and we gave up the pick that could have gotten us Sam Bradford, then watch us become the cautionary tale for the league about trading draft picks.

 

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The way the redskins played against the Lions we might stand a chance of winning… but the skins will be upset they lost to the lousiest team in the NFL and take it out on us and have a banner day.

Will we win? Only if things get fixed and Fox is told by Richardson that his job is on the line. Maybe some urgency from him will spark the team…

by scorpion12 on Sep 29, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

They play the Bucs first. Hopefully, they’ll have their banner day with them, or be in a complete depression by the time they meet us.

by Scrantsj on Sep 29, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not according to the panthers web site… skins week 5.

As long as we don’t lose any more players to injury, the skins shouldn’t get more than 100 yards rushing. Last week we were ranked 12 in passing defense.

Get Dwill the ball and let him run rampant. Get Harris back in the game and let him hit some players. We’ll win.

by scorpion12 on Sep 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will win

The Redskins only got 44 yds rushing from their RB’s — aginst the LIONS!

The week before, they only scored 9 points against the RAMS!

If we don’t beat them like a low-hanging pinata, I’ll print this page and eat it.

Upset? You think the Panthers aren’t upset? Poor Jason Campbell gonna feel some rage on the road.

by bigdavis on Sep 29, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But Cambell has no hope...we do..or should

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Sep 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I had something positive to add.
I still love my team, is about all I can mustard up!

by tarheelfan on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like it when people can optimistic and concerned but not act like the sky is falling. Thanks James.

Not to do a “what if” but if Steve Smith runs the correct route or Jake sees him break it off and catches a pass, then the Panthers could have gotten a TD and held on and won the game, we would be talking completely different. It didn’t happen obviously, but there are just so many ways each game can go and so much of the season teams can’t control, the Panthers should focus on what they can control which is that something happened in the 2nd half they failed to adjust for and the offense looked quite sickly.

by bengoodfella on Sep 29, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good analysis James

Gonna be a long season.

by Davejinxer on Sep 29, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great article James.

You got a chuckle out of me with the Ghost of Wesley Walls mention. It’s nice to see someone remain optimistic after a game such as this. I’m sorry if I can’t do the same.

Man….what a game. I’m hoping the Panthers can turn around, but I think it’s safe enough that we can pretty much declare the Panthers out of the playoff race. We may sneak into the wildcard race, but with the Saints rising like they are there is no way we are winning the division.

What frustrates me the most is that the formula for winning the football game is there. It’s right in front of their faces. Run the football. Just run it. That’s all you have to do. Stop giving the ball to Jake Delhomme on 1st and 2nd down when you haven’t established the running game to take pressure off of Delhomme. Just run the football….run it. For the sake of our 2009 season, stop screwing your fans and run the damn football.

It’s that simple.

And start blitzing again too. I don’t know what was the reasoning there. We’re winning the football game and we’ve been doing something good the entire first half. Let’s see….what are we going to do the second half? Hmm…. OH I KNOW! Let’s switch up the playcalling and go back to doing the same thing that has been losing us football games since the inception of the franchise.

….sigh.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the support!

I think what makes it so hard right now is that as bad as we’re playing we almost beat Dallas and almost beat Atlanta. The team’s potential seems amazing if only the coaches utilize the players the right way. It’s almost as if the coaches want to run their gameplan regardless of whether or not the players can do it.

The only exception to this is the tackling, which is abysmal right now.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

People keep trying to tell me we are a terrible team just because of our 0-3 record and that is certainly not the case if you’ve watched the last two. We’re not doing enough to beat good teams but we certainly aren’t going out there and sucking. If the competition was different (aka easier) I could easily see a 2-1 record……but of course it is not and we are stuck at a cool 0-3 :)

by R-F on Sep 29, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we trade Pep before the deadline.

Then I’d want a 1st rounder a second and a 4th from the raiders or some other team.

by chinchillas sword on Sep 29, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding, right?

Peppers could only get us a 3rd rounder right now, at best.

There is no statistical evidence that he is a dominant DE in the NFL anymore.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Sep 29, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree...he won;t garner much more unless..

we get a couple teams bidding for him.

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Sep 29, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No statistical evidence indeed.

But it’s becoming increasingly clear that Peppers just plain doesn’t want to be here. He’s doing a lot of hustling after the football, but I truly think at this point it’s all an act.

Like I said before, when we franchised Peppers I thought it was for the intent to trade him. Peppers killed us with his little ‘list of teams he wants to be traded to’ and his unwillingness to sign his own tag. And our team made little to no effort to trade him in the first place. Everyone heard the rumors about the Patriots wanting Julius Peppers in their uniform. If we got a couple of 2nd rounders from them, I would have been very happy.

Instead we keep him on a team he doesn’t want to be on, and he repays us by playing like 40 year virgin. The worst thing is that if he hits FA next year, some team is going to overpay for him regardless.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Sep 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100% agree Revshawn

The worst part is watch him go back to being a 15 sack monster when he gets to play where he wants to.

The rumor with the most verisimilitude I heard was the Pats were offering a single second rounder for him, but we declined saying the price was too low.

The irony is we could have used that second rounder to get Everette Brown and still retained our first rounder next season.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Peter King this morning:

“Carolina fans shouldn’t fixate on whether Jake Delhomme ought to be benched. He shouldn’t. He’s played passably well two straight weeks. They should be more concerned, much more, about the defense. Julius Peppers continues to be the most overrated player in football. And the run defense allowed 212 rushing yards to a Dallas team playing without bashing lead back Marion Barber. That should be a bigger concern.”

by Scrantsj on Sep 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This week's sign of the apocalypse:

James actually agrees with Peter King…

Say it aint so!

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Sep 29, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a sign of the apocalypse

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

by Scrantsj on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha…Peter King only mentions the Panthers when it is about something negative. He talked about Delhomme struggling 4 separate times in his MMQB a/f the Eagles game and then did not mention the team once in MMQB the following week.

by bengoodfella on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean like a lot of players seem to do when they leave the panthers?

by scorpion12 on Sep 29, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what was going around. Now the real sad part is that this team may be, at least, in the top 15 (more like top 10) in terms of the draft, and the stupid 49ers are going to have it.

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by Ivan459 on Sep 29, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Went to school with Stewart and was there when the others were there as well (rosario, schwartz, harris) so I root for the Panthers by default which that draft pick made hard to do. As much as I hate to see people I know losing like this it seems like it hasn’t been on them, I’ve watched all the games so far and it definitely didn’t look anything like the panthers of last year. And not just the play, the overall philosophy of the team looks different.

by darcwingdux on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worried about the coaching also...

I’ve been reading this blog for awhile but have never posted. I do enjoy the optimism after every loss. Unfortunately I feel like this may become a weekly fixture. The saddest thing in my opinion is that I feel we have one of the most talented teams in the NFL but our coaches just are not putting them in a position to win. As an optimist myself (in a group of 5 watching the game I was the only one still maintaining we had a chance after 21-7) it was difficult to swallow that especially bitter pill that Fox, Meeks and Davidson handed us. I generally agree with the sum of what you are saying, James, with the exception that I think Marty Hurney is one of the better GMs in the league and has done a good job of assembling a great collection of talent (although after this potentially piss-poor season we might not even have a high first round pick to show for it). Unfortunately our coaching has seemed to piss it all away. Oh well.

by ArmasFoster on Sep 29, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the blog ArmasFoster

When we are sitting at 3-3 you can tell your friends you were right!

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Sep 29, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am strating to believe more and more that the coaching staff is more to blame than many of the players. Bla coaching + Bla Playcalling = Bla year. I am loooking forward to our 6-10 season right now…….

Member of Canes Country and the Cat Scratch Reader

by Ivan459 on Sep 29, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real thorough synopsis James. I think I could actually feel your pain as I read the piece. Hopefully you’ll be writing day after win articles soon.

by paydirt16 on Sep 29, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You and me both...

nothing would make me happier than an optimist column with a few, nitpicky facets in the ‘pessimistic’ area.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Sep 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dazed & Confused

Everyone looked either lost or p’d off out there. What gives? Anyone actually believe we don’t have some quality players on the current roster capable of at least pulling out an 8-8 season. What I don’t see is fire, cohesiveness, belief in a plan, dedication to its execution, etc…stuff that falls on the shoulders beyond those of just the players. It’s like the team needs some freakin’ group therapy. It’s in the same funk it’s been in since Arizona. Seven games since and we’re still stuck in the same nightmare Arizona game. Who’s really running this show now anyway? Maybe we can call Dr. Phil to replace Coach Fox for awhile or have him pull his pants down like Singletary did in SF. They’re 2-1 at least.

by LAPanther on Sep 30, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's some Realistic Optimism (For those in need)...

Guys, look….. first of all, it was nice to see the TE finally being used over the middle, instead of the tunnel vision “gotta get it to smitty” wave of incompletions. That was refreshing because it indicated a move towards plays designed to address fiasco’s like the Philly game, and somewhat the falcons game. Rosario got more looks from Delhomme than I’ve seen through all games thus far. This was a frustrating point for me. Why not use the TE more? Well, they did. As it works out, that’s how we got our last 50 yards and only TD. Nice improvement by adding a staple play that every team in the NFL knows how to use, except ours, coming into this game. Let’s see more of it moving forward. Nice improvement.

Defensive Blitz – Someone finally got it! We are all painfully aware of the absence of the Blitz in our defensive schemes. (Mostly because of John Fox’s conservative approach to the game, I think.) Well… “Boom! There it is.” What a hopeful presence. I loved seeing it finally being incorporated in our defensive scheme. Maybe it took Philly and Atlanta to literally DRILL IT INTO US to demonstrate the effectiveness of a well designed blitz, but SOMEONE got it. Now, let’s build on that. Keep ’em coming. Have some FUN designing them. Use them. They work.

The Run Game – You know, sometimes you just gotta let someone make the mistake so they can say to themselves,“Well, won’t do THAT again!”…. I think abandoning the run game in favor of the passing game was a mistake. I think the coaching staff surely realizes this as well. (At least, I would hope they do.) I really don’t think we’ll see this happen again. It was an anomaly on our season’s radar. Count the running game IN, moving forward, except maybe in situations where you’ve got to go to the air – i.e. 2 minute drill scenarios, etc.

Positives? I think these 1st three opening games were treated, rightly or wrongly, as pre-season games. Tuning and experimenting with what works. It surely explains the Jekyll\Hyde performance of 2 halves on MNF. The good thing is. They’re over, we’re in the BYE, and the experimentation stage should, hopefully, be done. Coming out, let’s see how it all get’s put together and what type of machine we wind up seeing. Well oiled and fine tuned? or a Duct Taped Rattletrap of disappointement. I’m thinking the pieces come together nicely. Given our schedule, we can get healthy, win wise, on the next 3 teams, put us back at “Even .500”, and start the mid-season slugfest.

by 12th_Man_Fan on Sep 30, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The next 3 games...

are very winnable: Washington, Buffalo, and Tampa. With Buffalo being the toughest. Funny, that seems odd to say?

by Scrantsj on Sep 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken Lucas????

Why would we still want Ken Lucas here?
-B

by bhwells29 on Sep 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad to read this… As soon as the game went off, my first thought was “Wow, I can’t wait to see what sort of positives that guy can make out of that.” Mainly because, I think, I was all-out. It’s painful to maintain hope and support a team that shows no sign of even trying to improve. Three weeks in and we’re still asking the same “why” questions. Are they hoping that Delhomme is just going to magically return prime form? I hope not, but it seems like that’s what they’re relying on. Nevermind the fact that we have two of the most capable backs in the league (despite Stewart not showing so well lately). Poor Goodson hasn’t even had much of a chance to prove he can hold onto the ball and gain yardage.

I’m not going to jump ship yet but man if they don’t at least show some initiative at trying to right their wrongs, I’m going to have to re-evaluate my position. If this team doesn’t turn around, next year may truly be the year of change, as hard as it is to admit. I hate to say it, I’ve always supported Fox, but what we’re seeing just… isn’t John Fox.

I still support my team but I suppose part of that would be recognizing a problem when it arises. Fox is quickly transgressing from “bad game” territory to “bad season” territory to “goodbye” territory. I hope he realizes this and finally makes a change.

by D-Ranged1 on Sep 30, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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