Consistently Inconsistent: How John Fox is trying to right the ship in Charlotte.
As we have an abnormally long wait until the Panthers take the field (after all, we’re not accustomed to Monday nights) I decided to take a look at one of the key problems the Carolina Panthers have experienced since their inception… inconsistency. We’ve all heard the buzz sentence on ESPN, Sports Illustrated, or any other reputable source:
“The Panthers have never put together back to back winning seasons”
It is this sentence that breeds doubt, this line which spawns pessimism; before the season has even begun a portion of the fan base doubts the team’s ability based solely on those words. Rather than looking at the history of the team as a whole, I’m going to be looking at the John Fox era, focusing on the two major reasons we are so reliably inconsistent and what appears to be happening to right the ship.
Cause no.1: Jake Delhomme and Julius Peppers
When looking at the team you need to start from the top. Delhomme and Peppers have been the two most important players to the Carolina Panthers since Jake took over the offensive helm. There is a reason the Panther nation is split in two, the metaphoric ‘chalk line in the bed’ from an episode of ‘I Love Lucy’. People are either ‘Jake haters’ or ‘Peppers haters’ and there is a reason for this ‘hate’, inconsistency.
Look at any other team in the NFL; are there two most important players as wildly inconsistent from week to week as Jake and Julius? I can’t find a similar situation. Jake shifts from John Elway to Ryan Leaf on a weekly basis. He’s good enough to justify retaining his spot as starter, but not good enough for the fans to trust. Similarly, Peppers looks like Lawrence Taylor one week and Kamerion Wimberley the next. He is a player who can utterly dominate and take over a game, if only he wanted to.
Solution: Lessen their roles in the equation.
On the offensive end this has been achieved through building the best stable of running backs in the NFL. Since the acquisition of DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart the Panthers have been running the ball more times than they had been the previous five seasons and the most since 2003 when the RBs were le by Stephen Davis and Deshaun Foster. There was less of a focus on the run between 2004 and 2007, and overall the results from those seasons were not encouraging, so it comes as no surprise that Fox wants to return to the philosophy from his best season
On the defensive end of the ball the answer was finding a new leader for the defense. Julius Peppers was thrust into a leadership role he never wanted after Mike Rucker, Dan Morgan and Mike Minter retired; now the Panthers have found their man in Jon Beason. Beason could be the most vocal defensive leader the team has ever had. It takes a special kind of player to be willing to step up in his rookie season and want to lead the team, and Beason commanded that respect. This (in theory) should allow Peppers to just go out and play. Freeing him from any concerns other than get to the QB should increase his production and demeanor, meanwhile, Beason is happy to take the defensive spotlight from the fans.
Cause no.2: Coordinators
Under Dan Henning and Mike Trgovac the Panthers were a ‘feast of famine’ team. Both coordinators did the best they could with the players they had, but overall the personnel never seemed to truly match what they wanted to do as co-coordinators.
Henning was able to architect the big play, but often failed at moving the chains effectively. This too often put the ball in Jake’s hands and asked him to make a big throw on third down. Jake is far from automatic at the best of times, but on third down he can be shaky in the pocket. Furthermore, we were a running team that played a rather Draconian rushing game, essentially asking Davis to run straight ahead at the line and get 3-4 yards and if that wasn’t working, use tosses to Foster.
Trgovac’s defense could make the big play. He was able to get production out of the best defensive line in football for a lot of his time with the team, often using raw pressure to force bad throws. This system worked great when the line was there, but like Henning’s offense it had little nuance and missing a player here or there would collapse the system.
Solution: Jeff Davidson and Ron Meeks
As we sit here on the cusp of week three I know these two aren’t the most popular guys in town. They both came from questionable backgrounds and it was hard to see why the Cleveland Browns offensive co-coordinator would be a good fit, knowing how anemic their offense had been, concurrently the Meeks hire was puzzling… wasn’t defense always Indianapolis’ achilles heel?
Davidson was a former offensive lineman and offensive line coach. His zone blocking schemes (coupled with some smart O-line decisions) have increased our YPC average greatly. While he’s not as good a play creator as Henning is, he is able to move the chains consistently when the players live up to their potential. In 2003 Henning’s offense averaged 4.1 ypc by the two feature backs; in 2008 Davidson’s backs averaged 5.1 ypc. This monumental improvement is one of the key reasons our rushing attack is so feared, now we just need consistency from the offensive line to pull everything together.
Meeks plays the ‘bend but don’t break’ Tampa two defense. Right now it’s hard to see that it’s an improvement because we are bending and breaking. However, despite this we are exceeding every average from Trgovac’s defense with the exception of sacks and turnovers. Last season opponents averaged 5.2 yards per play against the Carolina defense, this season it has dropped to 5.0. Strides are being made, but they are subtle.
Summation
It’s tough to hear the ‘you’ve never gone back to back’ line on TV, in the newspaper or around the water cooler, however John Fox, Marty Hurney and the rest of the organization was this as much as we do. Have all the decisions been completely on point? Absolutely not, however, too often as fans we are willing to blame the front office for not being willing to make a change. If you look at our organization from top to bottom it is clear that we have made vast strides to not only change the players, but change the football culture in Carolina. None of us know what the future for this season holds, but when looking at these two areas of traditional inconsistency you can see that we are making strides towards becoming a more complete and rounded football team; even if that maturation process takes another two seasons the framework is starting to take shape to turn the Carolina Panthers into a perennial 10-6 team rather than a 7-9, 12-4 rotating one, and that is a change we as Panther fans should be excited about.
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One thing that perpetually frustrates me about Carolina
Is the defensive hires. We have so much talent and speed on the defensive side of the ball with Beason, Davis, Peppers, Brown, Godfrey, Gamble, Marshall, all are fast and skilled at what they do. An attacking style of defense that USES the speed to confuse and harass the offense, rather than using the speed to contain. I’d love to get someone who ATTACKS, doesn’t let the offense get comfortable. Offense is the best defense.
best example of that style
week one
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 27, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
defensive hires
the defensive hires are fine in my opinion. fox hires the guy who will run the defense the way fox wants. if a guy is too far removed from fox-style defense, then he won’t get hired, regardless of our personnel and the success of the guy in other places…we brought in meeks instead of dom capers. we, the fan base, knew fox would never take a chance on the 3-4.
by usana_gaines on Sep 27, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
However, the Tampa 2 is used by less teams in the NFL than a 3-4. It was far riskier to hire a Tampa 2 coordinator than a 3-4 one.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I don’t think it was a risky hire in Fox’s eyes. He is on a short leash, and the argument to “give it some time” simply does not exist right now. He figured switching to a 3-4 would have been to great a shock, the Tampa 2 is clearly closer to a traditional 4-3.
But Fox doesn’t want mad scientists on our sidelines- he wants guys who will buy into his ideology (ball control, time of possession, don’t give up the big play, etc). We called for Henning’s head and what happens? He goes to Miami where Pennington has 400 yard games and they run the wildcat.
I believe his philosophy is that teams who live or die by aggression tend to break after time- the disguises become worn out, the code cracked. He thinks that sound fundamentals will always triumph eventually.
by the bomb dot com on Sep 27, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
fundamentals
I agree with the fundamentals part. However, for most teams the quality of fundamentals is pretty equal, and it’s the schemes and game planning they make up the difference. In terms of our defense, though, there has been a lack of fundamentals since last November. Also, the guys who get it right seem to be getting hurt more often lately. It is true, though, that proper tackling is the most effective thing a defense can do.
by usana_gaines on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Heck we don't even need a 3-4
The Giants defense, Philly’s defense, Chicago a few years ago, Minnesota, all play a 4-3 and are still able to generate consistent pressure. What type of defense was Fox running with the Giants when they made the Super Bowl?
by Flowing Willow on Sep 28, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
risky?
I agree that it was riskier from our vantage point, but I think it was a no brainer for Fox. He went with a guy who runs the defense the way Fox wants it run. He was looking for loyalty and streamlining as much as change.
by usana_gaines on Sep 28, 2009 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Panther problems
Good article James. I know I am hard on the front office and coaches. I think they are smart and have alot to offer the team, but there is the blantant fact that they don’t instill the “heart and fire” in each game it takes to win in the NFL. I think there is something shakey at the top and it is filtering down to the team. I hope just like the rest of you for a good win tomorrow night but I will settle for a bad one.
Emotion can be a funny thing in football.
I have always said if Julius Peppers had Troy Polamalu’s heart he’d be the best defensive player in football. I completely agree that heart and fire have their place on a football team, however, there is equal evidence that shows being clinical and without emotion breeds success too.
The perfect example of this is the New England Patriots or Indianapolis Colts. Neither team shows noticeable heart or fire on Sundays… rather, they calmly approach their games and disect their opponents. Conversely, the Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers live on fire and emotion, often allowing it to make up for physical deficiencies.
At its worst a complete lack of heart or fire results in players not caring and quitting on plays, and on the other side too much heart and fire results in bad penalties and overly agressive play. You take the good with the bad, and right now we sit somewhere between emotional and clinical and to have further success I think we need to choose which path the team wants to take.
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You hit the nail on the head
We need to find our idenity.
Emotion and Fox's job
Fire and emotion are two different things. To say the Colts and Patriots approach a game without that fire and emotion is incorrect. Tom Brady, for one, has a competitive fire that most players have never experienced. That does not mean he lets his emotions make decisions for him, though. When Manning loses, or is losing, it gets him all fired up, but, again, he does not get emotional. His emotions fuel his competitive spirit into making better decisions, and applying more effort. Also, the fire and emotion of these guys applies not just on game day, but their relentless pursuit of a perfect practice. Manning and Brady have no offseason, unlike Leinart and Romo. But if we lack fire, emotion, discipline and fundamentals, we will be 0-3 within a few hours.
Also, I want to discuss John Fox’s job as a whole. I think he could find a way to get fired this year. He and Hurney can both be gone. The reason I say that is because it seems that we may be on the verge of another losing season, and although injuries may help the losing along, our lack of depth in key positions is showing. We also seem to be unable to adjust at halftime or stop anyone on defense. Last year was an anomaly as we scored 30+ points for two months but couldn’t stop anyone. We stopped scoring like that, but we still can’t stop anyone. I hate on Jake a lot, but in his last game, he performed pretty well overall. I think if we 6 wins or less, and Fox and Hurney are gone. At the same time, we still have the talent to win 10 or 11 games, and reach the playoffs. With the injuries and strength of schedule this year, it is on Fox to navigate our way to the playoffs by improving our fundamentals in practice and minimizing our mistakes during the games. Since the NFL went to 12 playoff teams, only three teams have started 0-3 and made the playoffs. We’ll see tonight if that should even apply to us. I predict Peppers, D-Will and Jake show their toughness tonight and we get a win.
I don't think that 'fire' and 'competitiveness' are synonymous.
No doubt Brady and Manning are competitive, you can’t be an NFL player (especially a QB) without being competitive. However, I believe their is a distinction between players who’s play exhibits that fire every single down (those who play emotionally), and those who don’t show it outwardly, instead choosing to be calculating and deliberate (until the final whistle blows). Broken down to it’s most simple terms it’s the difference between playing with your heart and playing with your head. When you are talking about practices and the pursuit of being the best player they can be, then it is that drive and desire that spurn them on. By no means do I want anyone to think I’m knocking the two best QBs in the NFL.
Looking at the QB position alone I can think of a handful of amazing quarterbacks that fit into both categories, those who exhibited their fire and those who played the clinical game I am talking about, there are also examples of both QBs who had amazing success:
QBs who play(ed) with ‘fire and emotion’
- Steve Young
- Brett Favre
- John Elway
- Terry BRadshaw
QBs who play(ed) ’clinically)
- Peyton Manning
- Johnny Unitas
- Tom Brady
- Kurt Warner
As for John Fox… if we do have a losing season it will be very interesting to see what the big cat does. However, I don’t agree that it’s on him that we have ‘a lack of depth at key positions’. I think every team gambles each an every year on their positions of depth, you simply can’t stock a team full so you have unlimited depth at every position, especially in the salary cap era. This is where a little bit of luck occurs in the NFL, making sure if you do have an injury hopefully it’s at a position where you have some depth. Unfortunately, ours ocurring to the D-line, our shallowest position and in the secondary, our second shallowest. Even the New England Patriots are forced to play a safety at LB because Mayo’s injury was at their shallowest position.
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josh johnson
not too long ago, i posted a link to a video of josh johnson running for a 43-yd TD in the preseason. He also had amazing numbers in college. I said it would be nice if we could trade for him to be an understudy of Jake and compete with Matt Moore. Of course many people dogged me and said I can’t judge a QB on one run, but now he’s been named the starter in Tampa. If we traded for him, he would not have replaced Jake, but a couple years (or at least one) behind Jake would have given him time to develop into a starter or prove Matt Moore is a better #2.
Of course, if you look at Leftwich’s numbers in Tampa, you see that really anyone should start instead of him. He has been horrible in more than just one game.
I think Jake plays well tonight and we pull off the win, further quieting the Jake hate debates. We’ll see.
I think judging Josh Johnson goes both ways.
His numbers weren’t exactly stellar yesterday, but anything was better than Leftwich. However, you could very well be right and he’s better than we all think and when he gets more reps with the first team we’ll see that.
As for future QBs… I’m about ready to fire up the Jason Campbell bandwagon. I think he’s going to be gone at the end of the year and would be a great pickup for us.
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campbell and ramsey
Campbell is similar to Patrick Ramsey…drafted by an incompetent coaching staff in the first round and left to rot. Campbell is still young, though, and is pretty quick on his feet. Considering that we’re a run first team, I could definitely see us picking him up to compete with Matt Moore for the #2 until Jake retires (or to compete with Jake for the #1) considering he’s not gonna be asked to throw 45 times a game. If we had Manning, Brady or even Dan Marino, Fox would still have a run first team, so it makes sense not to draft to high for a QB. I could see us signing Campbell and using our first couple picks in the draft on defense. We can’t keep giving up 30 points a game, no matter how Jake plays. Tom Brady hasn’t led the Pats to 30 this year yet, either, but his defense isn’t giving up so many big plays. Then if we bring in Campbell and draft defense high, we could go for another QB in the draft after the 3rd round.
I bet Fox agrees with you more than me about Tebow, so he probably wouldn’t look at him until at least the 3rd round. He doesn’t want a QB who can run like that, we have three good RBs to run the ball.
I'm big on Campbell right now, so you'll see me hyping him up alot.
All I know is he’s:
- 9th in the NFL in passing yards
- 5th in the NFL in completion percentage
- 9th in the NFL in QB rating
Look at the recievers he has… mediocre at best as a corps. Yet for some reason he’s the source of woe in DC…
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campbell
campbell has proven before that he can play, but he’s been asked to do the impossible. santana moss is great once a month. randle el is good for a trick play twice a year. and they have two young receivers whose names i don’t remember. i think zorn wants portis to fail. 12 carries, seriously? campbell would do better on a team with some stability on both sides of the ball. the redskins don’t have that.
by usana_gaines on Sep 28, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I had drafted Campbell in my FFB league as a back up, hoping to see something happen with the Redskins… Sadly things worked just as I had thought they would, so I ended up dropping him for Trent Edwards. In Carolina, though, I think he could do well. Once we get this run game back on track, things will turn around. Oddly enough, I was relying on DeAngelo Williams to pull me up from a 3 point deficit this week, meanwhile my opponent was relying on a Dallas defense to steady their lead… Average yardage from Williams and any two Carolina scores would be more than enough to seal the win… I felt confident that my odds were pretty high…… What I got was absolutely horrible…. Needless to say, 0-3 isn’t pretty in FFB either and Williams has been my weak link through all of them. (Of course, being up against Adrian Peterson in week one and Frank Gore in week two didn’t help much either… My luck hasn’t been too great this year).
Predictable
Is it just me or can everyone else pretty much predict what our defense is going to do after we get a sack or bring pressure? I mean everytime, we go into that stupid cover two, rush four and just watch guys run in front of us for first downs or long gains on runs. KEEP BLITZING!
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