Panthers Sign QB AJ Feeley
by riddel on Sep 14, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
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ESPN reports the Panthers have signed AJ Feeley and rotoworld already has him as a FF option.
The Carolina Panthers have to come to terms with veteran quarterback A.J. Feeley and have placed backup Josh McCown on injured reserve.
Not impressed with this pickup, looks like another career backup to me. I think Garcia would have been a better option for immediate relief. Looks like Jake is safe and we replaced our #2 McCown (IR) with Feeley. Eagles picked up Garcia and we got Feeley. Oh well.
Update by Jaxon: The Panthers have already named Jake Delhomme the starter for the Falcons Game. No surprise there as John Fox will stick with Delhomme till the end I think.
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What a bummer!!
I was hoping for Garcia but oh well..
by jay23 on Sep 14, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*sigh*
Once again, the Panthers front office try to fill a vacancy with mediocrity.
by boywonderncsu on Sep 14, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't really have many other options
available in the FA market.
Brohm & Booty are youngsters, but they were let go because they were really unimpressive.
As for Garica & Feeley… both have starting experience. Garcia probably wanted more money, and is more likely to be looking for a starting job.
He has a better chance of that in Philly (McNabb out?) than Carolina (Fox still backing Delhomme). Two weeks down the road, who knows? But for now, Philly was probably his first choice (if it came down to Phi/Car).
(Right now) Feeley is just the back-up.
Fox trusts Delhomme, and until that changes, the back-up is irrelevant.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 14, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jp losman
JP Losman is available. He started some in Buffalo and is now playing in the UFL. I think we should go with Moore for one game. Are we officially in a rebuilding year now because of one guy?
by usana_gaines on Sep 15, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand people are pushing the panic button, but Losman?! You have to be kidding me.
Why don’t we sign Drew Henson while we’re at it.
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Joey Harrington?
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...or Jeff George!
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drew Bledsoe could come out of retirement!
HALL OF FAMER!
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
about losman
I think he is NOT available anyways, he play for a team in the UFL for their upcoming inaugural season, which we may see more of in the future.
by brotherbrown on Sep 15, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by my original thought...
we shouldn’t have signed anyone. Move Moore to the #2 QB and promote Cantwell from the PS. I hate when teams bring in a “veteran” guy – because he’s had professional snaps. Shouldn’t it count for something that the ‘veteran’ sucks? Seriously. Feely’s career stats are 27 TDs – 29 INTs; with a QB rating of 69.6. Oh yeah, let me tell you – I instantly feel better about our backups [for the slower crowd, that’s sarcasm].
That being said, someone with interwebs savvy will say, “But Brian, Matt Moore’s career stats are 3 TDs – 5 INTs; QB rating of 67.0” and you will be correct. Watching him play, though, he has improved from when he was an emergency stop-gap in 2007.
Another question that will inevitably come up – can I really say truthfully that I feel better about an UDFA rookie, Cantwell, than a ‘proven veteran’ such as Feely? Absolutely – and I can smile the entire time.
by boywonderncsu on Sep 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree. I think Moore and Cantwell will be good QB’s they just need play time.
by mackattac on Sep 15, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philly gobbled up Garcia!!!
WTF!!!! I am losing confidence in any move made by this organization
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 5:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
We're assuming we're a step behind.
A Garcia deal could have been done with the Eagles at 10 a.m for all we know.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me?
The guy had a better chance to start here. WTF is right!!!
WHO is running this place???
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by Ivan459 on Sep 14, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did he have a better chance? Honestly.
If McNabb is out for any period of time, then he has a better chance to unseat Kevin Kolb than he does Jake Delhomme.
Vick is not ready, despite the Madden players who are convinced he’s good to go.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The real reason they didn't sign Garcia
Is because they know he’ll take Jake’s job. They don’t want to put pressure on him. They want Jake to be the guy no matter what the cost, and Fox might very well lose his job because of it.
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Adam Schefter ESPN
Reports that the Eagles contacted Feeley before Garcia… they wanted to sign Feeley but he declined their offer to come to Carolina.
So, I guess we could have had Garcia… but we didn’t want him.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh well. I guess you’re right about him not starting anyway. Like Fox would start another QB over Delhomme…. yeah right.
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by Ivan459 on Sep 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't want Garcia because they don't want a QB
Who has potential to take Jake’s job. I’m afraid it’s Jake or nothing with Fox
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Richardson need grow a set and get firm w/ Hurney & Fox!!
Aj Feeley is not the answer..and If Jake does shitty one more game Hurney better make a trade for Jackson from the Vikings or Derek Anderson otherwise owner needs to get rid of Hurney and Fox and tell them to take there beloved QB with them
by jay23 on Sep 14, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No QB available is the future answer in my mind.
We haven’t drafted a QB in the 1st or 2nd round since Kerry Collins. The time is now.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tarvaris Jackson?
Seriously?
He’ll throw more picks than Delhomme.
As for “the answer”… there’s no one available this season (FA/trade) who’ll fit that.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 14, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he seems to have improved
he looked really good in the preseason and was set to start before Farve came along..he mobile that’s the reason why I like him just incase our O-line chocks atleast he can make something happen w/ his legs..I mean if we do trade for him or Derek Anderson I would still hope they would draft a QB..
by jay23 on Sep 14, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?
We don’t have a 1st. Can we really find a future starter in the 2nd?
Fox seems to only like taking undrafted or late round QBs.
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you like ST?
This draft is QB deep… seriously your going to see guys going late 3rd early 4th round who would be late 1st rounder this year.
Analysts were saying that if Mark Sanchez stayed his senior year he’d be a high second rounder this 2010 draft is so QB deep.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’d like to see a 2nd/3rd round QB
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 14, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anderson yes tavaris jackson
HELL NO
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 14, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They benched him to prevent any further embarrasment
Knowing the guy behind him wouldn’t do any better. Then Fox immediately after the game announces Jake as the week 2 starter, before even watching the tape. At what point does Fox quit making excuses for this guy?
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know he didn't watch tape?
So, Moore should start at the Falcons in your mind?
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he said so in his press conference
“without watching the tape I don’t think it’s Jakes fault”
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 10:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hm..
that makes it seem like there might still be something wrong with Garcia (injured in the pre-season, did it carry over?)… enough to effect him. Or maybe it’s just because both teams view Feeley as a more willing back-up for their starter (Jake, McNabb)?
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 14, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Reid
just said that Feeley went to Carolina because they offered him a “”http:// http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/9/14/1030529/we-did-go-with-jeff-garcia-reid" target="new">long term deal." Whereas Garcia I guess would take what he could get . He said, "Jeff’s going to come on board with us for who knows how long here. "
by JasonB on Sep 14, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense...
Thanks JasonB…. I figured you’d only be getting Garcia as a brief rental.
Good luck to your eagles. We’ll see you in the NFC Championship game! (someone needs to keep the hope alive)
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually that does make sense...
McCown contract was up at the end of this year anyway. Gives the Panthers a backup option for the future, and (hopefully) an opportunity to draft a QB next year with less pressure on him.
by Scrantsj on Sep 14, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Panthers probably couldn't aford Garcia
They are not even 2 mil under the cap. Probably Feeley’s options average put to leas than Garcia per year
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
* Feeley’s options probably averaged out to less than Garcia per year
mobile spell correct needs an upgrade
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by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the Idea of Derek Anderson in a trade for Jake and a pick
I think it sounds good and is a great idea,
by Blacmomba on Sep 14, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they would take Matt Moore
…they wouldn’t take Jake.
First they would read this blog, and know he has no value whatsoever. LOL
by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody wants Jake’s contract.
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by no1pipelayer on Sep 14, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delhomme is untradeable
For one, I doubt any team would want his contract… But mostly from a Panther standpoint, if he was traded the entire amount of his guaranteed(around $20 mil right?) would accelerate to the current year’s cap. No team, least of all the Panthers, can take that hit.
by JasonB on Sep 14, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’ll go with that.
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by Ivan459 on Sep 14, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will want quality for Anderson
Who could we possibly offer? Stewart? No way. Plus who really wants Anderson here long term?
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 10:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Not me...lets draft a guy this coming draft
I have an idea, we could trade our 2011 #1 to move up. :0
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, we'd never do anything like that Jaxon ; )
Maybe we can keep doing it until the NFL is defunct. Stay ahead of the curve.
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After reading through all of these comments, I’m left wondering one thing.
Why are you guys not all GM’s yet? Or, at the least, head coaches. It’s quite obvious every one of you know exactly how to win the Super Bowl with a single trade. Never mind caps, personal objectives (Maybe some people don’t want to sign with Carolina, etc), play style, and all of the other nonessential things that go into signing/trading players. If he played good with a different team, that obviously means he will play great with us. If he played bad, regardless the other teams talent, HE SUCKS WHAT ARE WE THINKING!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111
No seriously. It’s so odd, I was just researching Feeley yesterday wondering how he would fit in if he were to be signed. Sadly, he has a bit of an interception problem himself. He has only threw more touchdown passes than interceptions once, however without being able to examine the offenses surrounding him for those years, I can’t hate on him.
Give him a chance. Patience is a virtue, some of you lack such. Remember, just because it worked in Madden doesn’t mean it’ll work in real life.
by D-Ranged1 on Sep 14, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying this is real life?
Bet half these posters would argue that, too.
by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you saying?
You think it takes a professional GM to see 11 turnovers in 22 possessions? You think everyone who said we needed to bring in another QB was wrong, and then we bring one in. This blog is for our opinions and insight, and we’ve been saying all summer what Foxy and Hurney just figured out. It doesn’t take a GM or even a casual fan to know that his 11 turnovers in 7 quarters is too many. You say Feeley had a bit of a turnover problem? Think about it, Jake’s problem has been for only two games and he’s getting another shot to prove it was a fluke. His history before his current slump is irrelevant to his current performance.
by usana_gaines on Sep 15, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I’m saying everyone wants to jump too soon. People aren’t considering options, they’re too busy hurling bitter insults and “definite” solutions. Opinions and insights, yes, but most of what I’m reading is just hate, which is understandable to a degree, no one is happy to see their team go through a tough time, but at this moment nothing can be done to please most Panther fans. Whatever action they choose is going to be met with “they should have done…” instead of support and optimism of how we could use it to improve our game. Doing this is their job, they’ve been doing it for a while now. We should support their decisions and, in the case we disagree, express that in a form of constructive criticism. Not just complaint after complaint… Maybe… Complaint, constructive criticism, complaint?
Everyone instantly hates on Feeley before even seeing what is possible with him in our offense. Everyone is focused on Feeley’s lackluster past yet as you just said of Delhomme so perfectly “his history before his current slump is irrelevant to his current performance”.
For the record, I don’t support benching Delhomme. I support starting Delhomme for the first half, or until the first interception. At that point Moore should be brought in, unless Delhomme just happens to have a miraculous first half. That grants a side by side comparison of both QBs, at least, the best we can get without subbing them every other play. Feeley needs time to learn before he settles in as 2nd or 3rd string QB (and that’s not assuming Delhomme is the starter, as far fetched as that may seem). Once Feeley learns our system and gets his timing right, he’s ready to show us what he’s capable of, perhaps week 5 or 6. At that point, I support the coaches enough to believe in their choice of starter.
That’s my opinion, support, and optimism.
by D-Ranged1 on Sep 15, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Matt Moore
I think that we should give Matt Moore the ball in Week 3 if Jake implodes again against the Falcons.
Let him run the game against the starters all week in practice, and work furiously with him in order to try to help him for the game. Make sure he watches all the film he can, and help him learn to go through his reads.
I believe he needs a chance. Delhomme is the best QB on the roster, but three strikes and you’re out.
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by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
i really want to see matt moore get a chance. he hasn’t been given a chance. he did really well in 2007 and since then he hasn’t been given a shot.
by rkpanthers on Sep 14, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ive been saying it for a long time
he did well with THAT offense imagine if he developed with THIS offense
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 15, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he didn't look any better than Jake on Sunday
However I definitely think he should be ahead of Touchy Feeley.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...nice nickname
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although...
the general consensus is that feeley was bad pick-up but for all we know he could come into the game and light it up. we’ll never know till we see him. he may have been mediocre with other teams but carolina isn’t those other teams, he may fit in well here. but i still stand by matt moore.
by rkpanthers on Sep 14, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Jake gets pulled in Atlanta, Moore will be next up
Can’t expect Feeley to know the system in 5 days.
So….either:
1) Jake plays ok and doesn’t need replacement, or
2) Moore gets his chance, and I’d say before the 3rd quarter, if it comes at all, and:
a) shows he can be a starter, or,
b) gulp…
by bigdavis on Sep 14, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy Tip!
hurry up and go sign Atlanta’s Defense off the waiver wire if you are in need of a defense that is going to score points in week 2.
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by MentallyMIA on Sep 15, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
IDP is the way to go. PPR too if the league has that option.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 15, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eagles defense
a guy in my league got 36 points with the eagles defense. i only got 14 with pittsburgh’s.
by usana_gaines on Sep 15, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my league
i only got 11 points for Pitt’s D
the Panthers are my 2nd D and they got 7 points
someone explain that. Panthers lose 38-10, Pitt wins 13-10 and the two D’s score almost the same points.
by dudemanhey on Sep 15, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blocked kick, forced fumble for the Panthers.
Normally worth a ton of fantasy points.
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a bitch MIA!
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aww, you're sweet
I only pick on you guy’s ’cause I like ya…
and I actually think that was pretty legit advice.
The Falcons managed to force 4 turnovers on a team that finished last season with a 17 turnover ratio. The eagles scored 30 points in most fantasy leagues against a team that is building a track record – you all have a scarily good team, but have some questions at QB that aren’t going to turn over (haha, no pun intended) overnight.
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by MentallyMIA on Sep 15, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet your still on the wire after this Sunday...
okay maybe not…but you have a hard schedule too. Thats why Steelers & Ravens were the best D’s to get. Easiest schedules, then the Bears & Pack
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only problem with Steelers and Ravens Ds
is they were going in the 5th and 6th rounds in most leagues. I don’t think any kind of defense justifies picking up that early in FF.
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by MentallyMIA on Sep 16, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.. If Jake struggles
Give Matt Moore some more playing time and reps with the 1st team so that the team can be prepared for the offseason and the serious moves that need to happen at QB. HOPEFULLY Feely never gets past Emergency backup status.
by docnolz on Sep 15, 2009 7:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"prepared for the offseason"??
I had to read that three times to be sure I was seeing it right.
Are you saying this season’s OVER after one game!
And I thought it was a 16 game season, not sudden death.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Moore
Should get a chance to play next!
by Davejinxer on Sep 15, 2009 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
but as a back-up… not starting in Week 2.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 15, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
If Jake implodes the first shot should go to MM!! We may have our own Tony Romo or Matty Ice Jr.
by rawjem01 on Sep 15, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or...
Jake Delhomme v.2.0?
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 15, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be...
the only way we will know is to put him in the game. He has been with this system for 3 years now. Give him a shot!
by Davejinxer on Sep 15, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awaken, The Real Jake Delhomme!!!
I was siiting looking at the games which Delhomme struggle in and this’ll past with the help of our runners Williams/Sterwart also will the rteal Offensive Line step up!!! I see him and it’s like he’s pushing and trying to doggone hard. Fox and Davidson need to start calling plays which fit the gun slinger until he stop fighting that I need to make a big play NOW!!! I also think that trying to get Kansas City Chiefs Brodie Croyle, Derek Anderson and/ or Tavaris Jackson. I feel that Jake Delhomme will snap out of this funk and yet it’s a sign for the Panthers to get a QB next year in the draft.
by Undisputed PantherFan on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They have to make this work with Jake
After all this debate, it is becoming obvious that there just aren’t any options.
We have known for years that when there is a lot of pressure Jake plays like a moron. And Philly was all over him, and if ATL gets the same pressure it will happen again. The ONLY option to win now is to fix the pass protection and get the ball out of Jake’s hands quick.
I think in the off-season we must part ways with Jake. But until then, with all the talent on this team, if we address what makes Jake flip out, then we can still make a run this year. There just aren’t any better options.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 11:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Excellent point
We all know Jake’s issues – as these aren’t new. We must address whatever problem the O-line was having. Everyone agrees that our pass-protection looked much like a candle in the wind: unreliable. We’ve seen them play LIGHTYEARS ahead of where they were on Sunday – thus our expectations are high.
This week, hopefully our beloved team focuses on the key points to success: offensive line, continued defensive pressure, better QB play (physically and mentally) and for the love of god – can the special teams coach get it together?
by boywonderncsu on Sep 15, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heres an idea.....GIVE MATT MOORE A CHANCE!!!
I dont believe one player has been spat, shat, & stomped on “moore” than Moore lol. He never gets a chance to prove himself. Its funny in preseason a couple years ago, everyone ripped him for not leading the team to a TD & automatically concluded from preseason that he’s not the answer, despite him as rookie going 2-1 in December 2007 the following year. The poor guy sees all these career backups signed & put ahead of him. I honestly wish he would go to another team & become a star.
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by D.W.G. on Sep 15, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Moore is 25
Tony Romo rode the bench for 3 years, not starting for the Boys ’til he was 26.
Can Moore be another Romo? We’ll never know unless he gets the chance, with the first team.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm game to give Moore a shot...
if Jake truly proves that he’s ‘done’ this Sunday.
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not playing Moore right now a good decision?
Moore went 2-1 in 07 as a Rookie…Ill give him that and I personally like him. I do think putting Moore in right now is not a good call, for Moore to start over a “healthy” Delhomme and now Feely is throwing him into a 3 headed lion’s den:
1) He will be playing the top teams in the NFC, this year its NFC East vs NFC South on the schedule…good for Green Bay and Possibly Arizona…bad for both East and South. Physical defenses, recent Super Bowl experience for several of these teams and major expectations. Its going to be like the SEC in college, its going to be who stays healthy, who commits the least amount of mistakes and who can just out pound the other. Is Moore ready for this years schedule?
2) This team and organization has never been under more scruitiny…forget the days of Steve “fisticuffs” or Kerry Collins racist remarks debacle….fans, media and babies not even concieved are taking stabs and cracks at the Panthers Organization, the only person who isnt in the hot seat is Sir Purr…and after downing that punt against against the Steelers so many years ago…he isn’t trying to be back in the spot light again. Is Moore’s confidence and focus ready to handle all of this?
3) How does the team, coaches, and other QB’s treat, respect, follow and guide him if he is starting over 2 HEALTHY veteran QB’s its not a matter of Matt Moore is the only one healthy on the roster which is easier to go with, it’s ok young guy here’s the keys and drive. Is he ready to step and be this player?
Being worried about a young Moore getting injured is not a legitimate concern, because every player risks that on every play. Being worried about his skill, well I’d hope since he is on the active roster of a NFL team the man must have some talent. The questions aren’t surrounding Matt Moore its the other aspects…is this the right time for Moore or could this be no more than sending this kid out to the wolves and watching his play, name, confidence and reputation in the locker room suffer as a result of poor execution, team management and coaching that got us into this mess and will likely continue unless Moore was to become absolutely phenomenal and lead the team to victory or worse step in at critical time for the team, provide just enough to be competitive, get a few wins, maybe a seemingly unlikely playoff run and yes if you’ve been thinking…become the next Jake Delhomme. Sorry I think Matt’s got a bright future, but this is one hell of trial of fire for the guy.
by carolina10 on Sep 15, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only think the Panthers are worried about
the message it would send. That they are throwing in the towel on the season.
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feeley is only a 32 year old clipboard holder
He hasn’t seen action in a regular season game in the NFL in 2 years, and in the 15 games he’s started over the last 8 years (Philly and Miami), he’s never produced — career TD/INT ratio of 27/29
http://www.nfl.com/players/a.j.feeley/profile?id=FEE447935
Only way he’ll get in a game for the Panthers is if both Delhomme and Moore come up stinking and/or injured. This acquisition should be a non-factor.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeley did pretty well when he had to step in for McNabb always getting hurt halfway thru the season. He still got the eagles to the playoffs and almost beat the Patriots when they went undefeated if anybody remembers I think he had 3 touchdowns(4 ints). And he didn’t have Steve Smith or Double Trouble.. he had Todd Pinkston and Reggie Brown. I think we’re solid after they realize Delhomme is done and Feeley gets a week to practice and have a gameplan for him starting and our defense is looking pretty good to keep us in some games.
by ieatcrayons on Sep 15, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually it was 3 TD/3INT in that game
Here’s the game summary
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2007112511/2007/REG12/eagles@patriots
Interesting you should cite perhaps the best game of Feeley’s career, and how eerily similar to Delhomme’s big effort vs NE in the SuperBowl. Nevertheless, the following week, vs Seattle, on 12/2/07, he tossed 1 TD and 4 INTs, for the second week in a row, tossing a pick to end the game with a loss. Not sure I would call that “He still got the Eagles to the playoffs.”
I don’t take much encouragement from that.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw come on
I remember watching that game you can’t base everything off that I mean tatupu was a man posessed aj just kept forcing it in the middle of the field it was painful to see. He does throw interceptions but it was in a pass happy system with sub par recievers. Against the seahawks alone he threw 42 times.. Thats not someone whos managing a game thats someone digging himself out of a hole trying to do too much to earn the starting role when mcnabb was down. People here in philly wanted him instead of McNabb till that.. Give him steve and a running game and I’m pretty excited to see what he can do I might be the only one though..
by ieatcrayons on Sep 15, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
feeley single handedly sent tatupu to the pro bowl though..
by ieatcrayons on Sep 15, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delhomme, Feeley, Moore, McCown are all the same!
They are all have brick feet, and will turn the ball over under pressure. What changed when McCown and Moore stepped in? Absolutely nothing… The turnovers and sacks continued! Garcia can scramble, but the rest if these guys will not be an upgrade over Jake.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
What changed when McCown and Moore stepped in? Absolutely nothing… The turnovers and sacks continued!
It’s statements like this that make you want to look for a common thread. Was it that they all suck, or that they all had to deal with that O-Line on Sunday?
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's because they're average, not mobile
And Because Philly blitzes our lights out!
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 1:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...
Philly had some crazy looks on defense too… lining up Cole in the A-gaps etc.
Almost like the ridiculous 6 OL set New England were using last night, I’d like to see us try something like that instead of being pure vanilla… or worse… a crappy wildcat gasp
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moore...
is younger, has more athletic ability, and is a better table tennis player!
by Davejinxer on Sep 15, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now is not the time to replace Jake!
Thats a discussion for 2010. What happened Sun was because this team freaked out in the offseason about injuries and the lack of depth, and tip toed around in camp playing pansy ball. That’s the head coaches fault.
Now we know these guys can play, they just have to toughen up quick. Protect Jake, he’ll make some of the necessary throws, and then we can control the game running the ball. That’s Foxy’s formula, and it’s the only way we will make the post season this year.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 1:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Can't resist
“Post Season? Are you kidding me? Post Season?”
by panthersnbraves on Sep 15, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, post-season.
Or did they reduce the 16 game schedule to 1 game this year?
by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna be tough...
to keep the defense honest when all they have to do is stack the box and blitz shaky Jake to get the easy turnover or pick. Need the deep pass every now and then to open up the run,since the QB can’t find the quick out or check down guy quick enough.
by Davejinxer on Sep 15, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he can find guys in the flat
But he always seem to look down field first. And when protection breaks down there’s just not time for that.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 6:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Despite ithe 11 turnovers...
they have to stick with Jake for now. I don’t buy this “bad protection” argument – Jake is playing like a bonehead, plain and simple. If he’s got heat on him, he’s got to either cover up the ball and take the sack, or get out of the pocket and throw it into the 10th row. Jake has to make better decisions with the ball, and that needs to start NOW. Foxy has to get that message across to him loud and clear. They didn’t get to 12-4 last year on the arm of Jake, they got there by pounding the dang rock and making the easy throw when the defense sells out on the run. Put the last 2 games behind you, and get back to doing what you do well.
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by thefantasyknowitall on Sep 15, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much sums it all up.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 to that
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 13 yr old son is available. He is a Falcons fan, but for a small fee he can be talked into playing the QB position for the Panthers.
by tarheelfan on Sep 15, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to Steve Reed
Feely is the number 2 quarterback. Jake will start for better or worse. Doesn’t sound like the coaching staff has much confidence in Moore if he is 3rd.
by Davejinxer on Sep 15, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There must be something with Moore we don't know about.
Not knowing the playbook, not understanding the offense… something.
He’s way too far in the doghouse.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
the coaching staff just doesn’t want to turn to a younger QB? I can’t for the life of me see how a career clipboard holder is instantly pushed to #2 QB when Moore has 3 years experience in the system.
If Moore is THAT terrible – why would we even keep him?
by boywonderncsu on Sep 15, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
If he doesn’t know the playbook by now, he’d be cut.
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by Revshawn on Sep 15, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We haven't cut Jarrett
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jarrett knows the playbook.
He just sucks.
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by Revshawn on Sep 15, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's much more reassuring.
I would like to know what’s up with Moore though.
First McCown, then Feeley…. something seems wrong. I never thought Feeley would be #2 on the depth chart.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Fox just loves his veterans.
It’s been a thing with him ever since he came here. If Moore was 31 this would be a completely different story, I guarantee you.
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by Revshawn on Sep 15, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed the new by-line
lol…I like it. It fits you.
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by Jaxon on Sep 15, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets hope I can lose it next week...
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by James The Aussie on Sep 16, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Panther's depth chart has Moore ahead of Feeley
http://www.panthers.com/team/depth-chart.html
I don’t see how a 8 year veteran who has never seen our playbook, and has never gone into a season as a starter, would be ahead of a young guy who has been molded here, and has won 66% of his starts with a 86 QB rating.
I bet this chart doesn’t change before Sunday.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was only Steve Reed who had Feeley as #2
…and I don’t think Steve sends people in from the sidelines.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eagles have been known for sitting on talent.. even thought they cant use the person right they hold on to them (reggie brown, lj smith)
by ieatcrayons on Sep 15, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeley
And you wonder why this team will never win the big one. Whoever agreed to sign Feeley needs to be fired on the spot!!!!! We need help at the Quarterback position. We did not need to pickup someone that should not even be playing in the NFL; let alone playing on this team. The Panthers have lost my respect!!!!!
by fields_62 on Sep 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Um
the fact that more teams than just the Panthers were interested means he should be in the NFL.
Feely is a QB, therefore we got some help at the spot.
If you’re waiting for some superstar to just hit FA and sit and wait for us, keep dreaming… it won’t happen.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 15, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touchy Feeley is just insurance
I mean we went through 3 QBs in our first game! They are going to give Jake every opportunity. And Moore will remain the #2.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree..... fire EVERYONE
While I was driving home from work I heard a caller on a sports radio station suggest we trade Julius Peppers and Jonathan Stewart to the 49ers for Alex Smith and our 1st rounder back.
I can’t decide what made my chuckle more.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone really suggested that?
I believe Smith deserves a 2nd chance… you know, with a team that won’t change their offensive style on him EVERY season… but that’s insane.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 16, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! That's sure to break their hearts.
Call Aretha — quick!
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Eagles are not going to carry 4 QBs
Kolb is starting next week, and with McNabb possibly sitting out and Vick suspended Garcia is the #2. But the following week McNabb will probably be back, Vick’s suspension will be lifted and there won’t be any room for Garcia. He cut be cut as early as week 3.
So if Jake doesn’t recover by the bye, then Garcia will probably be available again. They just have to make sure Jake is finished before bringing in somebody of that caliber.
Things are going to either get better, or VERY interesting!
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Garcia knew he was a 3 week rental.
Per Andy Reids comments he basically said ‘A.J had an opportunity for a long term deal, while Jeff realized his services were only needed temporarily’
Garcia will look at it like an audition for the league to find someone willing to bench a starter for him. He still wants to start.
Now, if McNabb’s injury is worse than thought… it will get REALLY interesting.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My least desired scenario is Touchy Feeley as our starter sometime this year
Best case Jake pulls it together and we go into the bye 1-2 or 2-1. If not that then it would be really interesting to see Garcia in this system. If not that, then I’d also like to see what Moore can do for a good chunk of the season.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given that the team
went after Feeley over Garcia, I think we can be pretty certain that Garcia won’t be back in the plan 3 weeks from now… unless someone else gets hurt.
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 16, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the exact same friggin team that went 12-4 last year!
The same QB that had multiple 4th quarter comebacks. The same O-line and RB tandem that were among the best in the league! How could we possibly continue to repeat last Sunday? I am beginning to move to the denial stage… Maybe this was a fluke, and a very intense Philly defense caught off guard, a Panther team that hadn’t prepared well in the off season??? Any takers on that one?
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm buying it
We were all lead to believe the Eagles defense was decimated and without Jim Johnson would be inneffective.
Rather, they came out with some very complicated blitz and stunt schemes… it confused our blocking schemes. Jake didn’t know how to deal, the entire team faultered. So yeah, I’m willing to call it a one off too.
What do the Arizona and Philly game both have in common? We underestimated them.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they did the same thing to the steelers last season
and look how that turned out.
big ben was sacked i believe 9 times
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 15, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice one... I had to look that one up, but you nailed it
From NFL.com regarding that game…
“The Eagles recorded nine sacks and a safety and had at least twice that many knock-downs. And those numbers don’t count the four times Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger barely escaped sacks and was credited with 6 total rushing yards. If Roethlisberger was less elusive, the Eagles very easily could have tallied 15 sacks or more.”
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't our coaches
be trying to get the message across not to underestimate teams.
Especially 2 teams in a row?
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by UtesFan89 on Sep 16, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me propose a startling scenario --
New Orleans travels to Philly this Sunday.
Suppose, just suppose, that the Eagles win this game at home (not out of the realm of possibility, with their defense, regardless of their QB)
Suppose, just suppose, the Panthers decide they’ve had enough being pushed around, and come out smokin’, beating the over-confident, heavily favored (6 pts right now) Falcons.
Do you realize that the Panthers would then be tied for the division lead, with, in essence, a get-out-of-jail free card, and a fresh start to the year??
Stranger things have happened.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot?
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am starting to think it's very possible!
ATL could very well underestimate us this week. Even if they don’t, they won’t bring the same intensity Philly did. And you know the Saints are flying high after Sunday’s performance… However, Detroit to Philly is a huge difference!
Imagine what that would do for this team’s confidence!
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah there are saints fans that think there defense is awesome this year
i look at them like they are crazy you had to score 45 points to win by less than 20! and the lions have a freaking rookie QB!
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 15, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not awesome, but improved
I think the Saints will win the division this year. Breeze is the best QB in the league right now. But you just can’t beat your chest about a win against the Lions… That game means very little.
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by southtunnel on Sep 15, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every team in our division plays the East
If the Eagles run the table it’s all erased anyway… right?
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by James The Aussie on Sep 15, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you're talking, boys!
Don’t give up the ship! It’s not sinking.
We just took one across the bow.
Remember you heard it here first. Tied for first after Sunday.
by bigdavis on Sep 15, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could seriously be setting ourseleves up for some major disappointment
I just hope all week the Panthers practice nothing but short passes, protecting thball and recognizing and picking up blitzers 101.
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by southtunnel on Sep 16, 2009 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is
Jake is our starting QB. There was no one brought into challenge him. Unless Peppers signs his franchise papers early next year and/or agrees to a trade, Jake will be our starting QB for years to come. If Peppers cooperates and we receive a few high level draft picks next year, we can draft the QB of the future and hopefully move forward. If not, we will continue to slip further and further back in this era of the QB. Drew, Matty, Josh, Jake? Which of these is not like the other?
by Run4est on Sep 16, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Jake doesn't get this team deep into the playoffs
Then I don’t think he will be a Panther next year. They just can’t afford the liability if there is no return. For that matter Fox could be gone as well.
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by southtunnel on Sep 16, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I partially agree
If we get to the playoffs, then I think all of the pressure is off him. That marks the first back to back winning seasons and playoff births. If we fizzle out and go 7-9 or 8-8 I doubt we’ll see Jake, Foxy or Hurney back.
Before people bring up Jake’s contract, keep in mind that he can retire whenever he feels like it and the contract is off the books. Given how successful his stable is in LA it’s not outside the realm of possiblity that if he has a truly horrible, garbage year then he will retire.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 16, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see him retire
As frustrating as he’s been as of late, you got to honor what the guy has done here.
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by southtunnel on Sep 16, 2009 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The results of this poll are rather dissapointing.
No matter how bad you might think Delhomme will do, to chose what was the 3rd string QB (who didn’t exactly light the field on fire when he came in last week) over him is foolish.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Sep 17, 2009 7:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just shows 133 voters don't know squat, or hate Jake.
by bigdavis on Sep 17, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that a surprising amount of people would rather start a guy who not only wasn’t on the team a week ago, but who wasn’t even in the league.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
by capital L on Sep 17, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knowing the playbook is overrated.
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by James The Aussie on Sep 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
all he has to do is go out there, hand the ball off, and look deep for Smith.
How hard could it be?
(Note… I’m kidding)
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