Breaking Down Jake's Five-Spot

While I don’t agree 100% on the fumble I think this is a fair and balanced analysis of Jake’s turnovers.

I haven’t done it myself, but I’d also like to see a breakdown of Moore’s INT. To get a better idea of whether it’s blocking, the recievers, Moore himself or the QB coach that needs to work on some bad technique.

Smitty had to turn around and reach for it in the opposite direction that he was running. Terrible throw.

I really think Jake is just mentally gone as a QB. He was jittery and making poor throws even when the pass protection was fine. At minimum he needs to sit awhile and watch someone else as a backup

Once in person and then on Tivo when I got home last night. I never want to watch or talk about that game again ever.

I still see 3 turnovers that are Jake Delhomme’s fault. Not trying to excuse our O-Line who were clearly outplayed and outcoached, but Jake was just flat out inaccurate and having another “Jake Day”

The big picture shows that it was not ONLY Jake’s fault. Before anyone hastily posts anything in response to that initial line – allow me to explain.

The line: Our vaunted O-line did horrible in pass protection. I watched every excruciating moment of that game and I kept seeing missed blocking assignments. How many times did the Eagles do the SAME stunt on their D-line to run untouched by one of our O-line guys? Lots. After the first series, the line didn’t really do all that well in run-blocking either. Anyways, I don’t care how good your QB is – if he doesn’t have time to throw and read his check downs, it’s going to end poorly.

Coaching: This game looked very similar to the playoff loss – we march down the field on the first possession, showing our prowess with the rushing attack and then it disappears the rest of the game. I still don’t know why we strayed from the power rushing plan. Jake is NOT a gunslinger QB – he’s a game manager in a rushing oriented offense, at best. So, it begs the question of why precisely did we lean on an aerial assault so early. Then we have the Eagles running the same 4-5 stunts to penetrate the line and get to the QB – yet there was no adjustment. That made McDermott’s job extremely easy; why change what was working so well for them. Where was the OC’s adjustment to do a little “dink & dunk” pass to TE’s over the middle? (i.e. anyone recall how the Raven’s did precisely that during preseason to neutralize our blitzing?)

The receivers: Despite Jake not having time in the pocket to blink – we also have to look at the receivers not shedding coverage. Steve Smith is a formidable receiver and absolutely demands double coverage – which means, someone is singled by a corner – and that person, whomever it happens to be, isn’t getting open fast enough. We all complain that Jake has tunnel vision concerning Smitty. I agree – he does, but, perhaps it’s due to no other receivers being able to shed blocks. It’s difficult to argue this point because from most camera angles – we aren’t allowed the vantage point away from the ball. I noticed it immediately in a lot of the games I went to last year. Hopefully, with the addition of Kenneth Moore – we can change that.

Conclusion: Best summed up as “we win as a team and lose as a team.” It’s a team sport – players and coaches, and this loss is due to all of them including Jake. We can point to the inaccurate throws, terrible WR reads and non-mobility of Jake as being part of the loss (and other L’s we’re most likely going to see this year) but all in all – it wasn’t ALL his fault.

So yeah I would love to see a conditional (3rd rounder at most ) Jake for Anderson trade. Anderson has looked weak for the past few seasons, but was a pro-bowler when Jeff Davidson was his OC. And Mangini has a hard on for old washed up Vets so it would be a total win win.

This was overall a piss poor effort from Jake all the way to the coaching staff not preparing the team nor themselves for this game. I have always liked John Fox, but this is in excusable to loose this badly and in the manner we did. I do not think the coaching staff did anything to gameplan for the Eagles.

I saw the play calling on the play where Delhomme fumbled the ball. The fact is this: any SANE person with a hint of football knowledge will know that the Eagles and most teams in the NFL (except us) are going to blitz on third down to get the QB. Now what I want to know is, why did Davidson (or Delhomme or Fox or whoever) call a play where Delhomme is forced to drop back 4 or 5 yards to pass. As outlined above, there was no pass protection AT ALL. Even though it was a long third down, why not just call a simple slant pass or audible one when you can see them crowd the line????

Even if Smitty gets on 7 or 8 of the 11 or 12 yards required, beats the hell out of the result that followed the play. The playcalling yesterday was atrocious. Not only that, but once again Delhomme and the team “picked a bad day to play a bad game”. Sounds familiar huh? It was a damn carbon copy of the Arizona game. They score to get us all fired up, them take a crap on the field and walked out. Delhomme was most of the problem, but this coaching staff did a piss poor job of preparing these guys for this game and for this season. Calling off training camp one week early was probably a big mistake. Injuries or not, this made be a side effect of that missed time.

I will continue to support this team, but as of now I expect nothing but a 6-10 record if we are lucky. We made the Eagles look like Super Bowl contenders, when we literally handed them the game on a turf platter. The games only get tougher from here on out. The time for preparation is over. This team showed us what they are capable of on Sunday. This is the hand we are dealt, and I doubt Fox and Company are going to trade Delhomme, because the “sky isn’t falling”.

Guess what: IT ALREADY HAS. Fan support is little now, the team is demoralized, and they have to play on the road now for two weeks against ATL and DAL?? Sorry guys, but nothing good will come of this season. No trade will fix the fact that Fox and this staff haven’t prepared this team for this season.

Jake Delhomme threw behind his intended receiver, Steve Smith. He tried to make a play on the ball, but it didn’t work and tipped the ball into the air for the INT.

What really made me worry about this team was the emotional breakdown of our offense that happened when the score was at 17-7. Everyone just seemed to give up and make mistakes. Missed blocks, not competing for the pass, poor throws, the mistakes were all around us. It’s tough to point the finger at the defense when the offense turns the ball over so many times.

Lack of leadership. Plain and simple.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/14/panthers-put-mccown-on-ir-might-chase-feeley/

Matt is our only other option on the roster unless we get someone else!

shows me there is more confidence in Matt at this time since Josh could have healed up within a month.

as I saw it (which, I’ll admit, was a slowed down, replay version), Smitty did all he could. Like you mention, he had to stop and wait, and the ball pretty much went straight to the CB. Sure, maybe Smith could’ve hit him hard and tried to jar it loose, but it seemed like Smith was in an awkward position to try that.

1st (INT): He threw the ball 2 ft behind Smitty.
2nd (fumble for TD): The rush came straight up the middle at Jake. He looked to his left and pulled the ball up but hesitated and was late bringing it down which is why it flew 15 yards down the field. He should threw the ball on first thought even if it was out of bounds over the RB head. You have to give an assist though to the offensive line for allowing the rushers to come free.
3rd INT: He under threw Smitty’s out route. If that pass is anything it has to be overthrown, Delhomme knows that. This was the mirror image of the INT DRC had for the Cardinals last January.
4th (INT): Again with a pash rush in his grill Delhomme rather than throwing the ball away tries to complete a screen pass that instead gets jumped by the LB Jordan. I give an assist to Davidson here as well for calling such a predicable play.
5th (INT): Either Jake threw the ball late or he under threw it, take your pick. You have to give an assist to OC Jeff Davidson for calling that play, even if it was single coverage. Delhomme was obviously having a bad day and thinking he could make that play against a PB CB was just stubbornness. I should also mention Smitty did him no favors by not challenging Samuel or even committing a penalty to prevent the catch.

That’s how I can read it if I want to apply Pro QB expectations

I still ask why they didn’t move the pocket? Why no sprint out/rollout? The QBs were sitting ducks every down. How many gut blitzes before the coaching staff makes an adjustment to protect up the middle?

Jake was bad, no denying that. But how about adjusting your scheme to take advantage of not only your opponent’s vulnerability but YOUr weaknesses?