Panthers Post Game Interviews
I can't say much about yesterdays game except for that was awful. I've been a strong supporter of Jake Delhomme through the years and this offseason, but at this point I am quickly losing faith. Unfortunately, we don't have a better option right now, but the front office better make a move this offseason. Anyway onto the post game interviews, first up John Fox:
Obviously I think we start back with Jake. We've got to go back and evaluate what happened to us. Without watching the tape, I don't think it was all Jake's fault.
Fox plans on staying with Delhomme as the Panthers starter next week, but really what other option do we have. We could pickup a FA and I know Jeff Garcia's name is being thrown around a lot, but really would it he be better. I suppose anybody that doesn't through that many INT in a game would be better. However, I will give him another week to rebound but if we see another game like yesterday, I suppose it may be time for Moore. But do we really want to go down that road? I'm not so sure. I just wish I had an answer and I bet so do the coaches.
Offensive line a surprise?
Give credit to Philadelphia. They had a good plan. At the end of the day, they coached better than us and played better than us. That's what I saw.
Everybody wants to blame Jake, but when you have eight guys pouring in on you, it's hard to blame the quarterback.
I really want to put this one on the coaches and I think they should take some of the blame, but Jake said in his interview that they were expecting it.
Yeah, that's what they do. Their a good football team and we knew they were going to bring pressure. They got good pressure, and we didn't respond to it. Give them credit. You know what? This is the NFL. If we didn't deal with it this week, we're going to see a lot more next week (against Atlanta).
So I suppose this goes back to the O-line and poor execution. It's really hard to say what went wrong, but the OL play was horrendous. You would imagine that coming back with the O-line in tack from last year, they would be at least 1/2 as good as last season. Next week should be interesting against Atlanta and as Jake said we can expect a lot more blitzing as the season progresses if we don't improve. Jake needs time, and if doesn't get it then expect more of the same.
Of course Jake was his usual humble self about being pulled form the game:
No I wasn't getting anything going for us. Great first drive, downhill from there.
However, what concerns me is his statement about if he has lost confidence:
They have a right to ask and the way I played today it looked like that, but I don't feel like that. If I was not confident, I'd check the ball down every play.
Really, so that's the only reason to check down. I admit I'm not an expert, but it seems when they are sending eight guys and you can't get the ball down the field that the check down is the option you choose. That's how you make the defense pay for blitzing so much.
Yet, Steve Smith said he was supporting his QB:
Our relationship goes further than on the field. ... At a time like this he needs than teammates but real friends.
While I understand what Smith is saying, I didn't hear anything actually supporting Jake as a QB. However, I won't go as far as saying Smith doesn't believe in Jake as QB any longer. Sure you can be best friends outside of the stadium, but Jake's intangibles only go so far on the field.
Last, here is how Smith described the offensive performance, which put's pretty plainly.
Offensively we just sucked. Lets be honest.
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Why do people keep saying there are no better options?
Any QB who can protect the ball is a better option. Jake made 0 difficult throws yesterday. Anyone who can make a simple check down occasionally, and fall on the ball whb there is pressure, would be a better option.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 12:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
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Point well taken. I’ve been a supporter of Jake for so long, I think I’m finding it hard to completely let go. hah
by LittleKing on Sep 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame game
At what point is it okay to point out that the coaches never moved the pocket? I am not absolving Jake here..maybe the coaching staff was as shellshocked as Jake was. But it isn’t like there was any big mystery as to where Jake or McCown would be launching from. The Eagles could tee off practically every down with gut blitzes and did.
…is Garcia still available?
by adamwanderer on Sep 14, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100% BUT
Even with the poor play calling and lack of adjustments, the game would have been manageable without the turnovers.
Latest on Garcia is that he was asked to be released from the Raiders. I think it’s starter or nothing for him. The biggest question is do we have enough money to pay him.
Is Cowher still available? ;) What’s he up to these days?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Please No Cowher
He’s not that good of a coach. I don’t understand everyone’s love of him.
by Scrantsj on Sep 14, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Consistency and a Suberbowl ring
Panther fans are sick of this up and down rolercoaster year to year. I think Cowher could work some magic with the talent on this Panther squad
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The two best coaches out there are Cowher and Shanahan
Both are coaches who would salt the earth and build the team in their mold. If Cowher comes back then I think you’d see few survivors as he tried to instill his philosophy in Carolina.
I wont say anything negative about Cowher, he is an amazing coach who kept the Steelers relevant and in the playoff hunt throughout the 90s.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about Shanahan
What would the implications be of him running this team? Between him and Cowher who would you guys favor?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 14, 2009 2:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I would prefer Cowher if I had to choose.
Really, they’re almost identical coaches except Cowher is more of a defensive genius and Shanahan is an offensive one.
Defense>Offense… other than that, they’re both great coaches.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the big question is
Would Cowher have Dick Lebeau. He is the brains behind the great Steeler defenses of his teams.
by Scrantsj on Sep 14, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freaking Shanahan.
I love that guy. Anyone else think that the Chargers were silly for firing him?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither
Shanahan has past his prime, as evidenced by losing the Broncos’ stranglehold on the AFC West to the Chargers last season.
Cowher is a carbon copy of Fox, except he yells a lot, and has also past his prime. After his list of straight playoff appearences, his team floundered, mostly because of inconsistency at the QB position. Sound familiar?
Something else to note is that after Tomlin was hired, the Steelers players noted that Tomlin would actually ask them what happened after a bad play, so that he could not let it happen again. Cowher on the other hand would just yell at them. I don’t think we need that around here.
by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 14, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Broncos didn't have a defense though.
Was Shanahan in control of the personnel decisions? Because if he wasn’t, I wouldn’t blame him too much. The worst problem the Broncos have right now is that they don’t have a defense. That’s the reason for their bad record the last few years, not inconsistency at QB. They were at the bottom of the NFL in every single category.
Now that Cutler is gone, watch the Broncos flounder. They got lucky this week with a tipped pass reception turned into a TD to win the game. They still don’t have a defense. The Panthers still have the core pieces for a elite defense in place.
If you could get him in here, and perhaps get him a first round pick to draft a guy to tutor under Delhomme, I would be very happy. Very happy.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Pat Bowlen gave Shanahan complete control over all personnel decisions, so the three seasons with no playoff appearences, bad defensive drafting, and ridiculous spending on free agents with character issues that poisoned locker room chemistry can be blamed solely on him.
Granted, it looked like he was starting to turn it around this past season with the drafting of Ryan Clady, but I’d still rather not take the chance given his record immediately preceding.
If it were me, and I had to replace Fox, I’d rather replace from within. I’d give Jeff Davidson a shot. I agree with many others here in that Fox might be holding his offensive schemes back. Plus, given Jeff’s maniacal run blocking schemes, someone will scoop him up for a head coaching job eventually anyway. I’d rather we hang onto him.
by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I 'll give you...
some consistency. Remember though, it took him 13 years to get that Superbowl ring. I’m mean his first 5 years were excellent, but then it was a roller coaster ride:
PIT 1992 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC Central Lost to Buffalo Bills in AFC Divisional Game.
PIT 1993 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC Central Lost to Kansas City Chiefs in AFC Wild-Card Game.
PIT 1994 12 4 0 .750 1st in AFC Central Lost to San Diego Chargers in AFC Championship Game.
PIT 1995 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC Central Lost to Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl XXX.
PIT 1996 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC Central Lost to New England Patriots in AFC Divisional Game.
PIT 1997 11 5 0 .688 1st in AFC Central Lost to Denver Broncos in AFC Championship Game.
PIT 1998 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC Central
PIT 1999 6 10 0 .375 4th in AFC Central
PIT 2000 9 7 0 .563 3rd in AFC Central
PIT 2001 13 3 0 .812 1st in AFC Central Lost to New England Patriots in AFC Championship Game.
PIT 2002 10 5 1 .656 1st in AFC North Lost to Tennessee Titans in AFC Divisional Game.
PIT 2003 6 10 0 .375 3rd in AFC North
PIT 2004 15 1 0 .938 1st in AFC North Lost to New England Patriots in AFC Championship Game.
PIT 2005 11 5 0 .688 2nd in AFC North Super Bowl XL Champions.
PIT 2006 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC North
by Scrantsj on Sep 14, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I think Cowher is an excellent coach that benefited from being in an outstanding organization. His philosophy is what ownership wants in Carolina. Which is the philosophy of Coach Fox. I like what is in place. However if you’ve ever been in a car wreck or been in an argument and later that day you say to yourself; I should have said X or come back with Y. Man, I should have tried not to over-correct.
It is easy to second guess after the fact, but what was so disconcerting to me (a rank amateur) how stationary the pocket was. Perhaps they didn’t install many rollouts. Where were the slant routes to attack the blitzing middle linebacker? Shotgun w/ the RB’s running flares…I am just really disappointed.
by adamwanderer on Sep 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re Focus Re Focus!!!
I seen both games and the preseason game Delhomme and Smith are really out of touch! The passes are behind him and that the one of many reasons that our Panthers look so doggone awful. I feel the coaches need to start pushing them more and get them re focus along with everybody else. Listen here a real game plan RUN RUN and RUN use that Philly Running play with Williams and Sterwart then attack with short quick drop pass and change the tempo almost like the 2 minute drill.
by Undisputed PantherFan on Sep 14, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
run run run
it doesn’t work when you put 8 or 9 guys in the box cuz your qb can’t throw. really – 7 completions to panthers, 4 to eagles. plus, we keep running the same running plays over and over. once the defense figured it out, they put a guy in the hole, and the running stopped.
not only that, but it was pretty obvious that jake can work a no huddle with short passes. 4 of his 7 completions came on the last drive of the first half.
by usana_gaines on Sep 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny. From what I can remember, Jake had two good drives the entire game. Both were similar, yet completely different from everything else they were doing. I believe they were both in the first half. So, instead of doing more of that in the second half, we just went back to what wasn’t working..
And as much as I like “run run run” it simply doesn’t work if your QB can’t keep the defense in check. (Even Madden can teach someone that on any respectable difficulty.)
by D-Ranged1 on Sep 14, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your Coaches did no homework
No a Beagle supporter and hates them, but I have watched them enough to know that if it is 3-7+ there will be at least 2 blitzers, and their LB sits on screen, they are not going to change what worked under Johnson.
I saw too many minimum protections on 3-7+, with dump off on screen, quite simply, your coaches did not watch 1 past Beagle game, you guys seem shocked that the Beagles would blitz, it was poor and suicidal
by a hay on Sep 16, 2009 1:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs





















