The Obligatory "Jake Delhomme" Post
This is my first post on this blog btw. Jake played bad, obviously. He played bad against the Cardinals in the playoffs, and he played bad today against the Eagles. Was the offensive line bad? Oh, without question. Were the recievers bad? Sure. Does that mean Jake didn't play badly? Absolutely not. Does that mean Jake sucks and should be fired?
Nope.
People have short memories. Fans have even shorter memories. I have a few "fair-weather" Panther's fan friends who are calling for Jake's head. I'm as mad as they are by his performance, but I remember that it's only two games. Maybe he's hurt, maybe there's something going on in his life, or maybe he just had a bad game. Maybe the Eagles' defense is just some amazing juggernaut who is going to do this to everybody.
Don't forget what Jake Delhomme has done for this team. Don't forget what he did for this franchise, or where he took us. (Also, show Stephen Davis all your love for the rest of your life, he really did get us through that season, I don't care how bad he may be now). Jake Delhomme is a great 4th quarter QB, historically, and he's been a great Panther. Give him a couple more bad performances before you throw him under the bus.
Discuss.
Also, MichaelProcton, it's amazing how we like all the same teams.
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this is absurd
you know jake is stinkin it up when the first post about him is defending him. give me a break. you know you suck if you’re a starter and fox benches you. this entire post is garbage. i think jake will play better the rest of the year. however, how many bad games does he have to have before you say he needs to go? his last 7 quarters of play have produced 11 turnovers. quit defending him. it’s ridiculous. if he plays better the rest of the way, then we should keep him, but if he continues to stink it up, then we’ve got no shot of winning. that’s just plain obvious and factual. his history has nothing to do with all those turnovers. i expect him to play better and i think we will win the division with 11 or 12 wins, but we all know the truth, we cannot win if jake continues to turn the ball over. why do you think deshaun foster got cut? look at the rest of the league and name all the qbs who have had 11 turnovers in 7 quarters. there aren’t any. whether you love him or hate him, we cannot win if he turns the ball over 3 times per half. if he plays like jake of 2003, though, or 2005, then we have a shot to win it all. quit making judgments based on sentiment and your feelings. feelings and points don’t mix. be objective and look at his play for what it is. don’t interpret, translate or decipher anything. just look at how he played. that’s it.
THANK YOU USANA_GAINES !!! Nothing but the truth was spoken by you I am sick and tired of Jake losing games !!!!
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Sep 13, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
woah woah woah
I’m pretty sure in my post that I said something along the lines of “Give him a couple more bad performances before you throw him under the bus.”. If he continues to play badly then they should bench him. Any idiot is going to say that. I’m just not the idiot that’s gonna bench a guy after two rough games that were months apart.
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by RichmondBraves on Sep 13, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I fully agree RichmondBraves
99% of football fans don’t want to understand that games are won and lost outside of a box score. Because like life, the vast majority want a easy, lazy answer to fall into their laps.
Everyone’s an ‘analyst’ based solely on the 2 minutes they’ve seen on Sportscenter. I’ve now watched the game twice. Fast-forwarding between all the BS and watching every play twice. It’s amazing what you can find out when you look into a game instead of at a game.
The O-line lost the game.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
I watched the game too
I can say that I’ve seen O-lines as bad as ours in other teams, but that does not justify Jake Delhomme’s performance. Now the plays where Jake threw interceptions, I saw nothing that I’d blame the O-line for. Why? a smart QB would not force the ball in situations where the line breaks down. The throw to Smithy was just bad, and there was one play where he had a plenty of time to throw only to give it up to the Eagles.
This argument could go on and on. I’m not arguing that we should get rid of Delhomme right away, but please don’t give me the superbowl and what he has done for the franchise talk. NFL’s what have you done for me lately league, let’s not dream about what happened years ago now. Jake is not making any fans in Carolina with that kind of performance, and we are going to be in trouble if he can’t get himself together.
What he's done for us lately:
12-4 in 2008.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I see the logic. Let me know if I get it right:
When we win it’s because of the team.
When we lose it’s because of Jake Delhomme.
Wow… that logic is flawless.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
No
when we win, it’s the team.
when we lose, it’s the team.
But 5 turnovers from Delhomme isn’t helping anything.
What he did for this team in the past is irrelevant.
The point is to win now… not have yearly parties remembering the SB he led us to years back.
Am I grateful for what he did? Yes.
But I’m not sitting here just expecting him to turn back into that guy.
Last season (and today), he’s shown nothing to give us hope that he can lead the team to the SB… or even play a semi-big role in it.
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I’m sure the 2000 Ravens thought the same thing about Trent Dilfer
I’m sure the 2002 Buccaneers thought the same thing about Brad Johnson
What Jake has done means nothing for the 2009 Panthers. I just think it’s obscene to call for his head after one game in 2009.
But then the Jake haters will go back to Arizona, because it’s only convenient to go back in time when it benefits your POV I guess.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
James,
the last two real games were lost because of Jake Delhomme. There is no way to spin it any other way.
All FIVE of Jake’s TO’s were his fault.
The only other person who could possibly share any blame is the OC. Run the friggin ball!!!!!! We were up early dominating on the ground, and with the ball in our possession, 2 & 6. They call a play action pass on 2nd down. WTF? KEEP RUNNING THE BALL! 3rd & 6: Sack. (Jake can’t even take a fucking sack right) Fumble for a defensive six. Then they proceed to let Jake air it out and lose the game.
We have the best running back combo int he NFL. the only thing jake should be doing is handing it off to them.
Who’s job is it to call plays so Jake is doing nothing more than hand-off? That’s on Davidson and Foxy, not Jake. I doubt Jake it audibling into a pass play every down.
A 2 second pocket isn’t condusive to a strong passing game for anyone. The offensive line were dominated and embaressed all game. Yes, Jake threw the picks… but the O-line were wet paper.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thougt the first 2 INT's were on Jake for bad passes
The first was behind Smitty and the second short.
The third was simply the defense predicting our play call (which every team seems able to do) and the 4th was just a terrible call. Why throw deep at that point against the best CB in the NFC?
I want to defend Jake as much as possible but its hard with this performance as the picks sucked the air out of the team
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Easy to figure out how defenses anticipate what's coming
Jake has never showed the ability to look off defenders, or scan the field, or go through progressions. A good corner can read his intent by his 3rd step back, and make his break on the ball. That, coupled with the inability of our WR’s to run sharp breaks, and Jake’s penchant for overthrowing or underleading his target, makes our passing attack less than fearsome.
Too many deep routes that are double covered because the safeties always know where’s it’s going, and not enough slants and curls to the TE’s. Of course, the latter, which I’d like to see more of, is only effective if the QB can lead his target, not throw behind him where it can be picked off.
We can be competitive in this league (right now, we’re not) if 3 basic things are improved: 1) tackling (better than the preseason), 2) blocking (line coach, do your job), and 3) accurate passing (Moore?)
got to be kidding me
I’m new to this post too. I’ve been critical of Jake since the NFC Championship against Seattle. Jake is not a good QB, correction not a good starting QB. His skill set is that of a decent backup. Always has. Every QB faces pressure, every QB throws picks, the good ones somehow find a way to overcome and win. This dude had one real good year, and some folks say he’s the best QB we’ve ever had. He has tunnel vision, he cant throw deep, he’s not very accurate, not that mobile, doesn’t know when to get rid of the ball. I don’t understand why people love him so much…When our running game is on, all he has to do is not lose the game, up until last year, he’s done ok with that, seems like he cant even do that now. How many bad games will it take? Look back at last years game against Oakland, we won,but Jake sucked. Happens more than people want to admit.
Figured out
Have other teams figured out how to stop the Panthers since the Zona game?
Stack the box to stop the run- check
Blitz the QB that lacks the ability to scramble/hold on to the ball/quickly find an open receiver – check
After that first Drive Philly made adjustments to win and twin they did. It would have been nice to see the Panthers make adjustments like throwing the short routes etc.
Don't get your point...
Aussie, I’m not sure i understand your point about Dilfer and Johnson. Those teams won the SB with guys who managed and didn’t lose the game. I think what we’re saying is that Jake cant do that consistently enough to get back to the SB.
they also won off of
amazing defenses
by carolinabrave89 on Sep 13, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh…. Trent Dilfer the masterful game manager… really?
Week 8: 33.5 QB rating
Week 16: 41.9 QB rating
Week 17: 35.3 QB rating
Well, I’m sure Brad Johnson did better… right?
Week 6: 53.4 QB rating
Week 7: 56.4 QB rating
Those were regular season losses by the way. It’s week one, I just think we can all relax and see what happens in a couple more starts.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever dude...
Those teams won superbowls, the guys didn’t lose games. No one says those guys were the reason those teams won…The point is they didn’t cost them games, giving the teams a chance to win. At least for one good season!
Game one.
It was just game one… if you can see who’s winning the Superbowl this year in your crystal ball let me know!
I’ll be on a plane to Vegas before the day is over.
I just gave you 4 examples of Superbowl QBs who cost their teams games in a year they won the superbowl.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Just one Game Aussie you say that time and time and time
Aussie you say that time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time Again get over it one game is one game but. After being a fan of “Got Jake” he has lost the edge it takes to win get over it. One day there will be a new QB ok so get off your knee’s and stop worshiping “Jake” he is done. Ok
Could you please highlight another post where I said in the past "Give him one more game"
Any, scour the site… look high, look low.. you’ll never find such thing.
I’m not worshipping Jake, he played horribly. But, I rather be accused of being an optimistic fan rather than a pessimistic one.
Put your money where your mouth is… post on my challenge fanpost.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Troll
You are a troll and love to bla bla bla. Money hmmmm watch the games not the #’s you love to crunch and quote. Plain and simple he is lucky QB not a good QB and it looks like his play making days are over. But I dont expect a football geek like you to get that or even understand that you have to play with heart and fearless to win. Jake is scared he is gonna screw up and that is why he fails. He has no conficence in his play. Look in his eyes in all the “bad game” interview not the last two but all the way back to the SB trip. He is scared. OL sucked but Jake is scared.
Do you know what a troll is?
I suggest you look it up in urban dictionary. I would also suggest you spend some time at this site and comment more than twice before accusing me of ‘trolling’ when I’m trying to have an adult conversation.
Furthermore, I have been commenting and contributing to this blog for the last five months heavily and reading for a year before that. Can you say the same thing? Didn’t think so.
I think you should take your close minded idiocy to the Charlotte Observer with the other whiners.
While you’re looking up troll… look up ‘ad hominem’ too. That can be found in the regular dictionary.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
done……… too bad we cant send you back to kangroo world all you do is post her eall day. you little man are an idiot i am not whinning but if i was tuff. I got on here to tell you one thing you are an idiot. That is what most people on here try to tell you but I am blunt and dont beat around the bush. So i am done I have do what i wanted now go back to being an idiot with out any more help from me you number crunching never put pads on and hit anyone geek.
Fine, I'm an idiot,
but an idiot who can formulate a sentence and use punctuation.
Go back to the rock you crawled out from under. I’m sorry that you feel the need to make yourself better by attempting to berate someone on a blog, quite sad really.
Finally, you’re right… I never put pads on. I played rugby, I’d love to see you try and play that sometime, tough guy.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaxon, take note of this poster's tone
James The Aussie has been a valuable contributor here, since before I came on. May need some preemptory action here.
I think some people are coming down on Delhomme’s bad performances too harshly… And on the other hand, some people are nearly blinding themselves of his faults…
Fact being, in my eyes, yes, Jake is the best QB we’ve ever had. Looking back at our QBs, however, that’s not saying entirely too much. Jake did have a great season, and he did lead us to a SuperBowl. He has proven a solid (not terrible, not great) option over the years he has lead us. His time is currently being tested, though. What he has done is out weighing what he is doing by large amounts, which, to me, is not good.
I’m not ready to throw Jake out yet, perhaps he will come back to form as the season continues. I do, however, think it is time for Panther fans to realize the option of Jake’s prime coming to an end is there. It is up to Jake to show us that he still belongs at the helm.
By the way, the Panthers lost. That includes all players and staff that were involved in that game. Delhomme helped the Eagles to their ridiculous score, meanwhile neither Williams nor Stewart were doing much in the realm of their rush attack. The O-Line let them both the pass and rush attack down. Our defense gave up a total of 185 rushing yards. All around it was bad. Instead of pointing fingers at who to cut, lets focus on how to improve our game.
True enough...
But really, the dude turned it over 5 times. You don’t want to blame him? The QB is the most important position on the field. He can win it lose it or just manage it and let the running game or the defense win it. He lost it today. I was at the game today, the defense never gave up, even we they were down by 28 points in the 4th qrtr. Sorry this one’s Jake’s!
let the running game or the defense win it
Yup, I’m sure our 3.2 ypc RBs were definitely ready to put the game on their back.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I was speaking in general...
About the role of any given QB. The Eagles were prepared for the run. Every decent team we face this year will be prepared for the run. A good QB will make those defenses pay for focusing on the run, thereby allowing the running game to eventually get itself going. I don’t know what you expect Williams and Stewart to do when Jake can’t perform…
+1
That is the problem with building a power running game around a QB who can’t force a team to honor the pass. And this wasn’t the only game I had to endure like this on this particular weekend. I’m a Tennessee Vols fan and had to watch our crap-tastic QB throw pick after pick because he cant seem to throw an accurate pass even in man coverage. UCLA beat down UT the same way PHI just beat us.
Delhomme’s ship has sailed. I will continue to support our team, but if we do not draft a prodigal “QB of the future” in next years draft, I may turn in my claws.
Crompton right?
I can’t really keep up well with college ball, let me know if I’m right on the above question.
BTW, Crompton to Delhomme is an awful comparison.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 15, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions
The OL's bad play lost the game.
Jake just doesn’t have the ability to offset that.
I doubt many QB’s would have such ability today, had they constantly (post 1st series) had swarming rushers in their faces.
It would have called for an extremely mobile, heady, and accurate QB — and for all the heart Jake may have, he doesn’t have those attributes.
The guys upfront should be ashamed of the pansyass way they protected him, or failed to open holes for the RB’s.
The thing that people fail to see too is...
Jake tries…. love him or hate him he tries. I’ve never once seen Delhomme curl up and die in the pocket (see Kurt Warner as a NY Giant)… for better, or for worse he tries to win and often he tries too hard and throws picks.
But you know, as horrible as it is for fantasy teams or box scores I’d rather a guy trying his damndest to make a play than one who wilts like an unwatered flower getting sacked 3 times and letting the team punt it away.
The O-Line was the worst part of today’s game.
by James The Aussie on Sep 13, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously?
jake was far and away the worst part of today’s game. that is not debatable.
disclosure: i have always been a delhomme supporter. I still support the team and if he is playing i will cheer and hope for the best. But his time has come and gone. He is a bad quarterback these days. And i seriously hope that the Pantehrs will sign Garcia to compete for the starting spot.
It is debatable
The offensive line were worse.
Regardless of the picks, did Jake have a pocket of more than 2 seconds?
Did our RBs have any kind of running lanes to take advantage of?
When you have two RBs who averaged 2.5 and 4.6 ypc average in 2008 averaging 2.8 and 3.2 you need to look at why. The O-line did nothing to help our cause.
The team didn’t get better after Delhomme was benched, rather sacks, 3 and outs and INTs continued because the O-line didn’t get any push.
by James The Aussie on Sep 14, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
But when they're stacking the box
Delhomme has to make them worry about the pass enough to make them stop putting 8 in the box.
It goes around and around… the rushing game struggled because the Eagles stuffed the box because Delhomme wasn’t beating them deep because the box was stuffed… etc.
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OL's bad play?
They have 5 guys trying to stop 6+.
That’s what the Eagles do. They blitz.
And blitz again.
Sure, they struggled. But it wasn’t just OL=bad.
The Eagles, after getting burnt on the first drive by the run, loaded the box.
They dared Jake to pass, and when rushing downs were gone, they blitzed.
The coaching staff needs to do something.
Call quick hit passes.
Get TEs in there to block.
Anything… forget Delhomme, any QB would struggle with the amount of time Delhomme had.
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Yup, on the sack, fumble, TD
tuck the ball, take the sack. On the 3rd INT don’t throw the ball if you can’t see for sure the WR is open. Throw it away instead.
Cut the INT’s in half and the Panthers still probably lose this game. The Eagles schooled the Panthers coaching wise.
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I would rather see Jake tuck the ball and take the sack
it’s not his fault when pass rush does get to him before he makes the play. we all know that Jake not very mobile (when that’s what he was working on during off season supposedly). But I do have a problem with him trying to force a pass when the pass rush gets to him.
On that particular play, most QB's would have fumbled
Count it off — there weren’t even TWO SECONDS after taking the snap before he was hit! There’s no time to tuck the ball, when the first move is to shift the ball to your throwing arm, in preparation for what the QB expects will be 4-5 seconds of surveying his options.
Rushers passed through a well-oiled turnstile in that one. Not Jake’s fault, he didn’t have a prayer, nor time to say one.
Other poorly thrown passes were his fault (and there were at least 2 other times the defenders dropped easy INT’s)
We could take a poll on who owned more responsibility, the OL or Jake, but in truth, it was 50-50.
Philly Inquirer saw it as LESS than 2 seconds
(pretty much as I said)
Eagles’ phantom blitz turned game around
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
Jake Delhomme saw it. The Carolina quarterback even pointed it out. And yet, the members of the Panthers’ offensive line looked like kindergartners trying to figure out quantum physics.
The scheme the Eagles’ new defensive coordinator, Sean McDermott, cooked up that eventually tipped Sunday’s convincing 38-10 win in the Eagles’ favor obviously wasn’t as mind-bending, but nevertheless confused the Panthers. And that’s the whole point of the defense McDermott inherited from the late Jim Johnson – to confound.
So when defensive ends Trent Cole and Juqua Parker lined up as linebackers in the “A” gaps – between the center and the guards – Delhomme signaled the alignment to his protection. Somehow, Cole, the Eagles’ best pass rusher, wasn’t picked up and steamrolled up the middle through a gaping hole. He gobbled up Delhomme and punched the ball out of the quarterback’s hands, and fellow end Victor Abiamiri scooped up the fumble and two-stepped into the end zone.
A 7-3 Carolina lead was erased, the tone was set, and the romp was on. And it can be traced to a phantom blitz package that would have delighted Johnson. Even though the Eagles rushed only four players, the Panthers’ six blockers, because of the unusual alignment, believed more were coming and were never in unison.
“That will mess you up,” Cole said. “You’ll say, ‘Whoa, what’s going on here? Why are they doing this?’ . . . They’ll panic because they won’t know what’s going on. That throws everybody off. That’s called good game-planning and scheming by the coach.”
Johnson would sometimes position his ends as “Jokers,” standing a few yards beyond the line. Cole said he occasionally lined up as the Joker over the middle earlier in his career. But McDermott apparently added his own wrinkle, with two ends positioned as linebackers blitzing from the “A” gap.
“We’ve worked on it since training camp, and Trent and the other players have welcomed the opportunity to run up inside,” McDermott said.
On the first play of the second quarter, Carolina faced third and 10 on its 25-yard line. The Panthers split wide receivers Steve Smith and Muhsin Muhammed on both flanks. Wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett was in the slot.
The Eagles were in their basic nickel package – five defensive backs, two linebackers, and four linemen. Just as many defenses are now doing on passing downs, the Eagles put four defensive ends on the field. But in this particular instance, only two were in a three-point stance – Abiamiri and Darren Howard – and they were lined up as ends in the “C” gaps, just outside both tackles.
At their sides were the linebackers. Akeem Jordan was to the left of Abiamiri, who was opposite right tackle Jeff Otah. Omar Gaither was to the right of Howard, who was facing left tackle Jordan Gross.
Parker was showing blitz, stepping toward and then away from the line. Cole stood still slightly behind Parker’s right shoulder. Delhomme, in the shotgun, pointed at both and called the snap.
Parker blitzed a little outside and was met by center Ryan Kalil. Guard Keydrick Vincent offered help, realized that Otah whiffed on Abiamiri, and tried to get a hand on him. Howard ran into the double-team of Gross and guard Travelle Wharton. Jordan didn’t move as tight end Gary Barnidge fronted him. Gaither went to cover running back DeAngelo Williams, who was moving left out of the backfield.
Cole, meanwhile, paused for a split second before running through a lane as wide as Roosevelt Boulevard. He had a free shot at Delhomme.
“As long as that sucker . . . counts, you don’t say ‘free,’ " Cole said. “We don’t talk like that. If it’s there for you to make the play, you better go get it because you got to get there to make the play.”
Delhomme, who would go on to throw four interceptions, had less than two seconds to evade the 6-foot-3, 270-pound end barreling down on him. He didn’t, and Cole wrapped him up and punched the ball behind the quarterback. Abiamiri, who squirted in between Otah and Vincent, was the first to the football, although Cole and three other Eagles could have had the fumble.
Abiamiri picked up the pigskin, returned it 2 yards, and scored his first touchdown at any level. It also was the Eagles’ first touchdown of the season.
“The ball was right there in front of me,” Abiamiri said. “I just scooped and scored.”
What the heck is Delhomme supposed to do when
Every play he is swarmed in the face by at least three green shirts. The O-line could not block in the interior. Outside pressure you can deal with, you can step up, when the pressure comes up the middle, Jake is decent mobile, but not many can avoid an inside rush in the face. To illustrate how bad that is, Jake couldn’t even complete a simple screen, he had so much pressure.
The OC is supposed to call a play to take advantage of it
or audible one.
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I was listening to the Panthers radio
and Eugene Robinson put out an interesting idea, squeeze the line to stop the blitz. The Eagles will mix up the blitz until they find one that works, then you will see that all afternoon. The middle was weak, they stuck a knife into it, the staff didn’t adjust. Jake still made some poor throws/decisions, but not many QB’s can succeed in that situation.
by Flowing Willow on Sep 14, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I asked this on another thread
If the Eagles are sending 6 or 7, and the Panthers are having to keep RB’s and/or TE’s to block, that means only two WR’s in the pattern – both doubled.
Since that WAS NOT WORKING, why did the OC try going 5-wide? Rolling pocket? SOMEthing?
by panthersnbraves on Sep 14, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
If Davidson's worth his salt,
he’ll study film and prevent it happening again next week — cause you know it’s coming. Right now John Abraham is somewhere licking his chops.
Heck yeah
ATL defenders are going to watch film on this game and see what they need to do to tee off on Jake. We can put money on the fact that a similar strategy is going to be employed by all opposition until we put a firm stop to it.
Like panthersnbraves suggested – why didn’t Davidson try something different? How about, ohh I don’t know – perhaps a few curl routes by some TE’s?
by boywonderncsu on Sep 14, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Davidson won't
we were having the same issue against the Cards, he had months to study film, and nothing came of it.
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Too early to give up
It was a bad day for panther’s fans indeed. I agree with fox for going with Jake for next week. When you have a game like this you dont bench top players and make changes you give them the chance too rebound. You also cannot use last years game against the cards as reasons either. That was last year. You have to look at what Jake has done all year last year not one game. With Jake the Panthers were second in scoring, Jake was a top five qb in alot of areas and simply he was the man for the panthers. He gets alot of flack that he does not deserve. He was horrible yesterday but if you get rid of everyone who has a horrible day you might as well pack it in because your never going to have a decent team. If you must call for someones head what about the coaching staff. No adjustments made, no running game (and isnt this what all the buzz has been,panthers running game?) Why are they throwin long bombs on second and 6 instead of putting it on the ground. I agree you win as a team and you lose as a team and Jake has done by far more winning than losing. I can confidently say jake and the rest of the team will have the panthers winning again in short order, it is what they are good at. You go by how they respond to a bad day not the bad day.
jake had a good run...
but i think its over. He did do some good things for us in the past,theres def no denying that! But he had his time. He forcing throws and just been making some bad decisions. I will say the o-line played horrible but jake had a large part in this bad game..good job jake for what uve done for us but ur done.
My thoughts
As you all may know (or not), I have supported Jake all through the offseason. One game does not change my thoughts. Am I worried? Sure. But not worried enough to start panicking. Let’s break this thing down….
Delhomme has played terrible the past two games, no denying it. Everyone points to the absurd number of turnovers and it is true, he had alot. But what does that REALLY mean? It means he played bad in two games. He didn’t play as bad as the turnovers suggest though, because if we wouldn’t have been so far behind in those games than he wouldn’t have been forcing throws into pass coverage just to try and make something happen. No QB is going to light it up in this run-based offense when we are behind by a large margin. The best thing the coaches could do is to just stick with the run no matter what because the Eagles teed off on our o-line and were pressuring us the whole time, most of the time with guys coming unblocked. I will admit that I would like to see him throw the ball away more but with the defenders coming unblocked play after play, eventually you gotta take a risk and try and make a play. It obviously didn’t work the last two times.
It’s true that Delhomme has his bad games. But why exactly does everyone think he will not come back from this (logical reasons only please)? I do know that after the Oakland game (another disaster), Delhomme averaged a 96 QB rating over the final seven regular season games last year. He turned the ball over three times in those same seven games. That was less than a year ago. What’s changed since? Do you think Delhomme just forgot how to play in seven months? If you do, thats fine. But PLEASE explain why that he all of a sudden forgot how to take care of the ball. He STILL averages less than 1 INT a game in his career.
As important as those games were, it’s just been two games. That is a very small sample size and I think it is unfair to judge Delhomme SOLELY on those two games in which pretty much everyone in a uniform played bad. I’m not saying ignore those games, I’m just saying that it isn’t fair to just look at the stats from those two games and form an opinion….especially considering how far behind we got, forcing him to force throws all over the place.
I am not ready to give up on Delhomme yet and think he deserves alot more starts this year. I don’t see what any other QB on our roster would have done to lead us to wins the last two games. Delhomme is out best opportunity right now and for this season. You can complain and whine all you want about not having a better QB on the roster, but it really won’t change anything.
So blast away. I’ll accept other opinions and I will respond but let’s try and be civil :)

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