Eagles vs. Panthers Game Day Open Thread
by Jaxon on Sep 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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If you are reading this Panthers fans we are inside one hour until kick-off of the 2009 season. Mini-camp, OT's and training camp are history. The preseason tune up is over. The bumps and bruises are being dressed and the Panthers are getting pumped! On the surface the Panthers are facing an NFC contender who brings a world of experience on both sides of the ball. The line is Eagles -2 and I'm thinking the Panthers +2 is a sure bet. I'd take the 'over' as well whatever it is. Hey, I finally found someone outside Charlotte who is bullish on the Panthers over the Eagles:
It must just be the uninformed dolts in the national media who haven’t bothered to look at what’s going on with the Eagles this year. All they see is that Andy Reid made the playoffs last year and they love kissing his big fat ass. I, on the other hand, have been watching the horror show unfolding this entire off-season up until the eve of the start of the regular season. The Eagles have been affected by death, injuries, free agent defections, bad personnel choices, stupidity and arrogance. I’m just waiting for the locusts. I don’t think the Eagles will beat the Panthers in week 1.
The Panthers went 8-0 in the regular season last year and will surely be ready the shake the taste of the 0-4 preseason off. The Panthers have to avoid turnovers that keep the Eagles hopes up conjuring up a road win. Okay, enough talk....
This is now and Open Thread!
Go Panthers!!
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help me get ready
So I still don’t know who is the starting DE opposite Peppers. Whoever he is, he will face Justice in Justice’s first ever start at RT. I like that. We really should bring some blitzes at him. Also, is Moore officially the #3 receiver? Who is officially the nickelback? I’m so confused. All I know is D-Will will have his best season ever this year, starting in less than an hour.
It will be Brayton with a rotation of Brown and Johnson in certain scenarios
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by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Teal Starting for Harris
Stewart WILL play!
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That makes no sense whatsoever.
He practiced fully yesterday. Fuck.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown will come in for nickel plays.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
They had actually talked about moving Pep over to LE.
Moore is the #3 WR. Wilson is the third corner off the bench, but Marshall will actually be the inside CB in the nickel. Oh, and here’s the official depth chart.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
Hadn’t seen that. They apparently had to change the lineup with Harris not starting. Martin’s S reps are necessary if Harris can’t go as well as they hope.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god!
Get on your horse and alert the minutemen! The Eagles are coming! The Eagles are coming!
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
I can't wait!
What a long off season that felt like. Finally, we’re getting ready to go!
Todays Inactives
QB Moore, FB Fiammetta, CB Wilson, OL Robinson and Williams, DETaylor, DT Harris
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Wonder who the Nickel corner is
The word is Mrshall still moves insiode so that must mean Munnerlyn will be the opposite Gamble ont he outside…rookie CB…I’m nervous
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No.
Wilson.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, shit. Perhaps not, if he's inactive.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Taylor?
I was hoping we’d see some pass rushing out of him.
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All three TE's active
Schwartz and Bernadeau back-up OL
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They usually are.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not worth activating for four plays a game.
Brown does everything he does (including special teams) better and does other things, too.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh!
I’m nervous! Jake Delhomme looks like he’s whimpering! He’s nervous!
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One name: Drew Brees
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Very true.
But in the NFL, Quarterbacks are like shiny jewels. They’re the first thing that analysts notice.
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Schedule is so much easier
than Panthers and Falcons
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there schedule is easier
but they might get four losses from the panthers and falcons, and then they have to win 10 of the remaining 12 to get to the playoffs.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
You think those two games really make a difference?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Every game makes a difference.
A win is a win and a loss is a loss.
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Offense.
Unfortunately, they can’t stop anybody.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking about something earlier.
We all know about the Seymour trade between the Raiders and the Patriots earlier right? They traded a 1st rounder in order to get a strong DT.
Only, he’s on his contract year and there have been no talks of an extension. What would you guys say if Seymour worked out the last bit of his contract, and then rejoined the Pats?
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Wouldn't be anything wrong with it.
But I don’t know that he’d be willing to go back. He was pretty mad about having been traded.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He's mad about being traded to the Raiders.
They say that Bill had a meeting with Seymour before he left. Being on a contract year, I would have enjoyed being a fly on the wall.
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That would be tampering if it's true.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
That's just what I remember after all.
I would put it past the Pats, though proving that it was tampering would be tough to prove. They could just argue that they were telling him the reasons why he was traded and trying to calm him down.
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He's mad
because they were working towards an extension, and then he got traded.
He was moving his family, which is why he didn’t report to OAK
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Most of the Fox analysts picked the Panthers to win.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
Three out of Five.
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Except Strahan is an NFCE homer.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, I need some fantasy advice.
I have Boldin, Berrian, and Hixon at WR. Which do I start?
I have Berrian starting now, b/c reports say Boldin will not play.
Will Parker
Is there an option for none?
Hixon is the only reasonable one. Berrian’s going to be limited.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
hit the none of the above button
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If Peppers doesn't rack up 2+ sacks (which I expect against shitty Eagles backups)...
Are some of you finally going to get off his nutsack?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know how much I liked that paragraph above.
Sounded as much like a Philly guy down on his team (like the Jake haters) as somebody objectively looking at the games.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
Here we go guys. It is 1PM EST
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Chris Harris is out! Oh crap!
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He's active, though...
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He's out for the game.
Retweaked his knee during the starting warmups.
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Ugh.
I hope Teal can carry over some of his camp stardom.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Goodson is returning!
Get ready for a big play!
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Return to the 30!
We don’t need no Mark Jones.
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nice return
we are mere minutes from our first score.
If we score 24, we win.
I say 27-21.
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Steve Smith!
Woot! That’s what I like
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And to think...
“we don’t use him enough.”
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I love being able to see the game
New England doesn’t get too many games. I’ll be here all day boys.
Where are you, exactly?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Aha...
That coverage actually got switched. You were initially scheduled for Cowboys/Bucs:
http://the506.com/nflmaps/2009/01-FOX-E.html
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha.
Well played.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
did i mention
i got d-will on my fantasy team
What pick?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have him on 3 teams
got him 5th, 6th, and 3rd
by chillicothe20 on Sep 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see we're already going to be on the right side of the field position game.
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Way to give up on the route, Moose.
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It looked like he and the CB were battling
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by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He stopped running before the ball hit the turf.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Williams just cannot be tackled!
He is so much better than he was his first two years.
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Jake had a guy in his face and a facemask.
Otherwise that would have been complete anyway.
I love this running game. Give it to him again.
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It ALWAYS works on Madden.
:)
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how much I like that play.
Smitty is best in space, not against the entire defense.
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Did you hear that?
The Panthers just whipped out the Wildcat
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Damn.
Jake is flashin’ some wheels.
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Tha hataz.
;)
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
Not too excited about taking a timeout this early.
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Shit, let's be excited we're gonna score on the first drive.
That’s been a struggle for us at times.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a tone setting drive
We get those BoA fans on their feet and then we have the fans keeping us up.
Ha.
Thank goodness for that weightloss.
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ESPN Gamecast
says Jake to Chris Harris for seven yards???
Haha.
DeAngelo.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
RG.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
4th and 1
This is where champions are made.
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Yeah, that's what it looked liek to me.
Thanks for clearing it up.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
false start
now there’s room for play action or a sweep to D-WIll. TD is imminent
i called it
i love this…we have all been waiting for this moment for a long time.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we've taken up half the quarter
by chillicothe20 on Sep 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
This is absolutely Panthers football.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
For?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I can find you audio.
Video is harder to find.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToListen.php
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Dwayne Jarrett is the 3rd receiver. I repeat. Dwayne Jarrett is the 3rd receiver.
What the heck?
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Blocking ability on run plays.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he did flash some
against the Steelers. It’s only the 1st quarter, Moore’s got plenty of time to come in and jack somebody up.
He did?
4-44 isn’t that impressive when you play the whole game.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
We keep this up
and the Eagles D is going to be wiped out by the 3rd
remember the bucs game
both d-will and beef stew can go over 100 yards today at this rate.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Another false start....wow....
Cmon guys. This is killing us.
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That was quick
Touchdown Carolina! Deangelo Williams!
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If it says him, it's really DeAngelo.
They’ve confused 43 and 34.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the person at the computer is drunk.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Damn.
DeAngelo is such a well-rounded back. Fast, strong, agile.
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That drive lasted almost 9 minutes
13 plays, 70 yards, and it goes for a touchdown.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
It still works in todays' NFL.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny Error on NFL,com
They’re saying that Chris Harris made the touchdown.
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It's the number issue.
They’re typing 43 into the software instead of 34.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad it worked out.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a #1 on the depth chart.
But they kind of hope Leonard can take the job before long.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Quinton Teal is starting as the safety.
In place of Chris Harris.
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Who is active but will not play.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn.
That’s all too familiar. Pass rush is less than strong thus far.
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Rush UP the field.
But not toward the QB.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
DeSean Jackson did a wonderful job of falling on his face
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
The Panthers make the stop!
And the huffing and puffing Eagles defense will be back on the field!
Captain is doing the return.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Ha.
Thank goodness. Munnerlyn doesn’t need any help dropping punts. But Demps could have avoided him.
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Demps definitely could have missed him.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
What the heck!
Boo! Boo!
Epic fail! Boo! Why did they slam into him like that? Boo!
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You know they are gonna be tired
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by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...
One of these teams looks like it hasn’t quite lef tthe preseason behind.
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Say wha?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We've never had anybody listed.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Look below.
He means for the web page.
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It's like I told you earlier.
The coaches were telling them to play conservatively during the preseason. Don’t get injured! We’re cursed this offseason. Haha
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I had thought this myself.
In the early Fox years, he had to teach this team to win. By now, they understand what it takes.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Shut up.
If a receiver gets hit in the hands, they should catch it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure.
How dare the QB throw to the receiver.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake threw the pass behind Smity
thats his INT
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If it hits you in the hand...
You have to catch it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a horrible pass
just be honest…but, jake will rebound cuz the mcnabbees are stinkin it up
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that he's better than mediocre, sure.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
what have i told yall about delhomme. he will be the reason they stall on offense
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
Funny.
Which part of the scoreboard shows we’re “stalling.”
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I see a statistic that says we're stalling.
It’s called, interception by the defense!
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Dear god....
It’s Steve’s fault in the sense that he tipped it up. But Jake threw it behind Smith.
Someone needs to tell Dehomme that It’s better to overthow him than to underthrow him.
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Good Pressure on McNabb
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Says the armchair umpire.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a FG on that
Akers is my FFL kicker
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Playing against D-Will too
I’m slightly conflicted
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It'll be a game-by-game feature.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't taze me Procton.
I’ve already got an article written up waiting for next weak.
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Lets see them both!
“Don’t taze me”…lol good one
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That kid deserved to get tazed a hundred times over.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
procto, what was it you said about williams; lets see, he cant block, he cant handle the job on his own, blah blah blah now “he cant be tackled” lol. make up your mind
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
He wasn't good two years ago now.
He is now. As his ability changed, my opinion did as well. Unfortunately, you seem not to have that capacity, as you’ll hate the best QB we’ve ever had all day long.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I love when returners get past the twenty when they look like they might be short
Goodson lookings solid at the KR spot.
Uh oh.
They’re starting to pass the ball first.
3rd and 10. Cmon Panthers.
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Take him out.....
Cmon Jake Delhomme. You might as well have handed them off the ball.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Our offensive line is the best in the league.
It’s too bad Jake can’t get rid of the ball faster.
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Hell, who couldn't get rid of the ball in half a second when two defenders come totally free at him?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
No more empty backfield!!
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
please don't...lol..nothing needs to be said
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Thank goodness we've now blown two drafts for the great Jeff Otah.
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No!! They brought to many on the blitz
We had no RB to block, he went on a pass route in the left flat
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What does the Otah trade have to do with that?
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We blew our whole draft load to solidify the line.
They’re supposed to be our strength. You shouldn’t have two defenders come totally free if the OL is your strength.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
otah!!!
otah didn’t make jake fumble. your jake defense is bordering on silly. he has 8 turnovers in a little over his last 5 quarters of football.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Three of his six interceptions have gone directly off the hands of receivers.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
jeez procton, blame everyone but the guy who couldnt hang on to the ball lol
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
I didn't.
It’s absolutely Jake’s fault. All of it. The blocking was so great, he probably should have been able to throw for a double touchdown.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
There were to many to block!!
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
....what? Lol
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If Delhomme doesn't throw for 450-4, he hasn't had a good day.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Moore!
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Is decidedly mediocre?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
you are ridiculous
you honestly think jake was not at fault on either turnover? i mean that as an honest question. was jake at fault or not?
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He certainly wasn't the only one.
And that’s the part nobody is ever willing to acknowledge. Delhomme has a .600+ winning percentage, but it’s never due to him. Except any bad play the offense ever has is entirely his fault.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey it is not over
Will it is too. But there is still a lot of game left. It seems like people start throwing out their secret negative opinions once something bad happens. Let’s go Panthers!
Well what good would it be to hate a player if you actually acknowledged they did anything well?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He got the ball to Moose!
My heart stopped a little bit though. Haha
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Now that's the old DeAngelo who sucks.
He’s better now because he runs north and south.
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3rd and long is not what we want
where’s Smitty? or Moore?
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mp
mp thinks none of jake’s turnovers are his fault and that D-will’s TD and last season were because of blocking, and he’s really not that good.
Who was he throwing the ball to?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
whats new with procto, hes at so much crow he probably poops feathers
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
What an overrated piece of garbage.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
at least on punt plays
we know jake won’t cause a turnover. who’s our ST coach anyway?
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny Crossman.
Whose units were ranked in the top 10 of the NFL last year. But with Peppers’ giant contract, we can’t keep any continuity on those teams.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame Delhomme.
Duh.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we had a better QB, they would have called it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess peppers was the one that threw that pass & didnt tackle on special teams huh lol
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
Oh crap!
What did I miss?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Ahh bull crap
Cut everyone! Lol
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Let me guess.
Punt return for a TD?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Thank you!
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
The Dallas Morning news ranked us 12th in the NFL last year in ST units:
He’s fine when he’s not forced to use terrible personnel because one player is taking up more than $18 mil of cap space.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So that we won't get them returned against us?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Jackson was #1 in the NFL last year in receiving yards per game last year.
…except not.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Jake Delhomme is the worst QB in history.
Obviously.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He got a finger on his shoulder?
A pinkie?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Come on, EVERYONE lets cut out this pointless sarcasm
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's got a point.
I’ve finally learned that Jake is the root of every problem the Panthers have ever had.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You finally figured that out?
Didn’t the Cardinal game clue you in?
Not quite. I was willing to give him a pass since he's, you know, the best QB this franchise has ever had.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know Will
They gave so many props on Fox. Saying that is how to block without clipping. I don’t agree.
You don't agree with what excatly?
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You can hear the fans booing now.
Take him out of the game. Now my dad is in the backround talking.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Definitely.
Let’s just run the entire rest of the game out of the Wildcat.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad pass into double coverage.
Tough not to force it when the momentum’s gone, though.
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Another INT
Not too happy. I am going to watch this game in peace and be excited about being able to see it without negativity
TD Eagles
Let’s Go Matty. clap clap clap clap clap. Let’s go Matty. clap clap clap clap clap.
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
What indication is there that he is any better whatsoever?
Just checking. Was it his 58.5 rating in the preseason playing against 3rd and 4th stringers?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
there was this time when delhomme could complete more passes to his receivers than the opposition, but that seems like years ago
What are you talking about?
He’s done that today.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It was the wrong read on Jake's part, certainly.
But he’s getting desperate.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like a window cling.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I was prepared for this.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
It's Charlotte.
What do you expect?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't feel like Goodson is very explosive on returns.
But I guess we’re used to a season of that.
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MOORE IS NOT THE BACKUP!
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So Jake
is 3/9 for 19 yards and 2 INTs. I mean, come on.
You lose the ability to block?
I’ve never noticed that.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why can't Delhomme get rid of the ball?
What a terrible QB. This line is giving him SO much time.
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Ok honestly Procton. Can you cut down on the trolling please?
Laugh a little guys. We’re not doing too good right now.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
What trolling?
I’m blaming Delhomme for everything? Isn’t that accepted practice at this point?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Overdosing on the sarcasm a bit.
I’m about to sit back and just watch this game guys. The team is imploding.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Who's overdosing?
I told you, I’ve just had my revelation.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
A good bit of us have right now.
This is disgusting. Ugh. And you know John Fox is going to stick with him till the end.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
As he should.
He’s the best QB on the team, and he’s certainly better than many other starters in the league.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I am going to cry...
I waited months for this.
This is
sooo painful to watch. I feel like it’s some kind of karmic punishment for something good that happened to me in a past life.
Fumble recovery?
He has the challenge flag out.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Why of course, the home of the second-most fickle fanbase in the country.
Just behind Atlanta and half-empty playoff stadiums.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Did they seriously uphold the fumble ruling?
He was very clearly down.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I was thinking
Gamecenter is just all screwed up.
I've got a video feed but it's a minute or two behind
So i watch gamecenter and then when something interesting happens switch back to the video, which is why I was confused.
Well guys. The second half is just about at an end.
The Panthers will probably have one last chance to work on the two minute drill.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
its going to be a long season
if we can’t execute better than this
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There's another week until the next game.
And we might have all of our starters, even.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Panthers don't have the offesen to overcome this lead
the D will need to score or special teams
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You're kidding, right?
The offense is the best part of this team. If the line remembers how to create holes in the run game or give more than six-tenths of a second to Delhomme, we might have a shot.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a good omen, for once.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
31-7
If we can score here, perhaps the Panthers might make a comeback in the 2nd quarter. It will take some work, but do not forget that Jake Delhomme’s greatest strength is the 4th quarter comeback. The Panthers start at the 40 yard line.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
He actually just willed the ball to himself.
Jake didn’t even throw it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol.
Ok. That was a good one.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
It's good because that's what happened.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The force is with him?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Thanks for loose coverage :D
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Even if we get in the end zone here...
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see the D give one right back up.
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Cmon Procton.
This is a Panthers blog
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
thats what I was thinking
it makes us just a little less predictable
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consistency
jake is the model of consistency…let’s see if its just a fluke…3 turnovers per half.
i know MP will defend jake no matter what, but some people just cannot see reality.
Yeah.
He actually had 96 turnovers last year. Well, 102 with the playoff game. Sweet counting.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We looked as vulnerable as the guy on the left
until this drive
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
don't make stuff up, MP
6 vs the cards and 3 more today. the least you can do is acknowledge that he’s at fault for some of the turnovers and that D-Will is a top back.
You just said that he is the model of consistency and that he has three turnovers a half.
If he is consistent and he has three turnovers a half, he has six a game. He played in 17 games last year. That’s 102 turnovers last year. That’s what YOU said.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!!!!
radio announcers:
guy number 1: What do you think of this timeout?
guy number 2: I uh..I don’t get it.
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
They want a chance to get the ball back.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake
I have seen maybe one pass with some zip, the others are kinda sailing on him. And almost intercepted again! I have little confidence in Jake helping us win today.
No.
You cannot risk getting no points. We’re within three scores now. That is doable.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Jerry Richardson has an unhappy face.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Can you blame him?
There’s not a player on the team who’s done well. DeAngelo and Stewart are both down around 3 YPC after good starts.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
They don't have a passing game right now.
The blitz is killing us in the running game.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
They also don't have any blocking.
For the pass OR the run.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it.
One game does not a season make. Even remotely.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, the defense hasn't had a chance to show their awful tackling!
(If we’re looking for bright spots.)
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36
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Peppers has taught Harris how to care about the game.
Grinning like a friggin’ idiot.
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Holy crap!
I just realized that the Eagles have scored 4 TD’s in the 2nd quarter
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
Sorry guys, but damn...
Good luck in the 2nd half…
I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.
Elayne Boosler
Oh wow...
And hurt on the play, too. He basically just got horse-collared.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas Davis playing exceptionally well (6 tackles.)
Beason with just one so far. But where the hell is the pass rush? The Eagles O-line has not played a snap together this year, and the last time Winston Justice was in, he was getting six sacks racked up against him by Osi, a true elite DE.
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Bad news for the rest of the NFC south
The Atlanta Falcons and the Saints are both beating their opponents. Atlanta by 10, and the Saints are going to win the game against the Lions.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Good point.
One game will be nearly impossible to make up over the rest of the year.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Captain Sarcasm.
Never mind I’m trying to update the readers about the situation in the NFC South. Nah, that’s not my intention at all.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
I feel a terriffic urge to strangle someone
But I can’t decide who.
Anthony Bright.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a very sad day.
The panthers did get a field goal before the half though!
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
For some reason,
that reminds me of the Battle of New Orleans.
Mathematically?
Haha…how does that formula work?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
It’s technically possible until the clock reads 0:00, though.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Like this:
Points for Eagles – Points for Panthers < Infinity
Falcons defense looking much more stout than a year ago.
Held the Dolphins without points for a half for the first time since very early last year.
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I'll say this.
Danny Crossman needs to be fired. That return for a TD was the major play that killed us.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
He does fine when we don't have to go to the scrap heap for special teamers.
Blame that on Peppers, not Crossman.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Everybody does fine
when they’re working with excellent talent. The mark of a great coach is doing well with mediocre players.
No coach does well with mediocre players.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Any coach can coach well with excellent players.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Which excellent players did we have on ST last year?
They were just holdover veterans who were familiar with the system.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
OH brother...
Excuse me if Im out of line here being a noob, but OMG the Panther offensive coaching staff is having a terrible game. With the exception of the 1st drive The Panthers offensive coaches are putting the team in terrible positions by attacking the Eagles strengths and not exploilting the weaknesses. We should have committed to the run and set up play action, run screens to take advantage of the Eagles aggressiveness. Turnovers and the non-call on the punt return have us in hole but talent wise we match up with the Eagles. The good news is its a 4 quarter game and a 16 game season and we can come back.
Lets go Panthers! Lets man up and get after them in the 2nd half!!!
by paydirt16 on Sep 13, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Facts.
However, the o-line definitely stopped executing after the first drive. No time for Jake, no holes for the backs.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, too many people to block.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Sep 13, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They do?
Because nothing worked run OR pass.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
too many to block
if there are too many to block, isn’t the coaching staff supposed to find a way to adjust? and why does it seem that we never give them too many to block? some things, like 1 yd runs up the middle, can’t be blamed on jake.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Godfrey looked really bad on that pitch.
Still making rookie mistakes.
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Na'il Diggs missed the tackle.
Now, a little thing I know, but if it had been Dan Conner out there instead of Diggs, he would have made that tackle.
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Really? You "know" that?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. Dan Conner is a faster LB
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Instincts can often cover for speed.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Conner doesn't have instincts?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
You speculated about something and claimed it as fact.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
No pass rush whatsoever.
The $16 million man, invisible as usual.
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Interception! John Beason!
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
He was stalking his prey.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
That
was a fun little dance Beason did there.
Long season
We are starting where we left off last year. The line is having a hard time picking up all the rushers and jake is sloppy on his delivery. Jerry R better look and plan for a better solution at QB next year because John Fox will not do anything different as long as Jake can walk on to the field. Right now we couldn’t beat the Lions. Maybe this turnover can add some heart to the team.
Don't get carried away
We did have two good-looking scoring drives.
Good job by Delhomme waiting to be sacked.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Good job by the receivers getting open? Good job by the line in protecting?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
turnovers
come on jake lovers. 2 halves against the cards, 6 turnovers. 1st half 3 turnovers. 2nd half, just one, but it’s still early.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He was earlier in the game.
But he was getting four seconds then, not two.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They were coming from everywhere,
where was he going to go?
What the hell.
This is a pitiful performance all the way around.
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Unbelievable
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Can't keep going 2nd & 3rd and long
Hopefully we’ll try to get outside running or screens on first down instead of attacking the Eagles Tackles which is their strength. We’re making them look good .
Can we PLEASE take Jake out of the game.
How long is it going to take? How long? How many interceptions?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Nobody can do it by themselves.
McCown (or Moore) won’t come in and be able to throw any better with no time to throw.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They can at least throw the ball away!
Either that or take a sack. Make a good decision.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
There's no time to make a decision period.
Are you watching the game?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course I am.
He should have taken the sack. He threw the ball right into the hand of the defender trying to get the ball into the HB screen
It was a bad decision. I suppose all the throws he made during the Cardinals game was because of a bad O-Line too?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
It was certainly a better performance in blocking than today.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok. Was that a bad decision by Jake Delhomme?
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
No.
Williams didn’t even try to get the ball.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about the interception. The ball was thrown to Steve Smith.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
It was a one-on-one jump ball.
Smith comes down with that ball most of the time.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Darin Gantt:
Remember when the #Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too. The Eagles are shredding the middle.
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And that's the ballgame.
What a pathetic, miserable performance. What. the. hell.
They don’t have to do too much to get to him, because they know he can’t get out of the way. If they just bull rush he will only fade straight back. The line can only pick up so many rushers and they know he’s not going to be a down the field threat if they hurry him
Right.
Because he didn’t avoid multiple sacks and scramble for a first down in the first half when the o-line was at least giving him a chance.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
But they're not giving him ANY time.
Missing blocks, Jordan Gross has gotten handled, Otah’s been flat, all around awful.
it's jake's fault
somehow i’m going to blame jake for the way the panthers bring their hands him to throw a blow with the shoulder, don’t wrap up, and miss tackles. richard marshall’s garbage play is one of many tonight. where is the heart and the technique. did the defense just give up already.
This.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
we’re not losing this game because of the defense.
We're losing this game because this TEAM is getting outperformed.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
outperformed is an understatement
jake has been getting hit all day, the RBs are getting hit in the backfield, the receivers are having trouble getting open, the defense is trying the new no-hands tackling technique that only works in high school. at least matt moore is in the game now.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and the punt return unit has been awful.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if that was a good idea
we couldn’t afford to pay him.
Yes, we should DEFINITELY snap up a guy who wasn't good enough to beat out JaMarcus Russell.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, so they deliberately went with an inferior player.
That makes sense, I guess.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Garcia<JaMarcus Russell.
That is pitiful.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
It’s not an accident that his winning percentage is 25 points higher
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Intentionally knocking the ball out of bounds is a penalty. Oh well.
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I know that I am on Jake’s case alot today but this is the way he has played long term. I do believe McCown or Moore could at least get out of the pocket and not give them a easy target. Also the defense is asleep today. I know Fox has had a good run here but he is not building the team up to compete in the NFL.
Is this really "the way he has played?"
He has a QB rating of 85+ for his career. He’s at 17 today. I’m not a doctor, but those seem different to me.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe he pulled him
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
Maybe they're thinking
he can pull a McNabb ’08
He'll be in the starting lineup next week.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
breaks
jake played horrible last year after breaks. the raiders game was after the bye and the cards game was after the bye. this is the first game of the season. i have been hatin on jake, but he’ll be better the rest of the year.
by usana_gaines on Sep 13, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He was pretty good in the first game, actually.
And he also played a week ago.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Game's over.
Why not?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Great guy
and I wish him all the best, but you can’t come out and lay an egg like that.
This has been discussed ad nauseum.
Good quarterbacks have bad games.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So do bad quarterbacks
Frye is honestly gotta be one of the top 10 3rd Stringers in all of the NFL right now--colbyb
How much more do you want Delhomme to go through today? He’s pretty shook up as it is.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Again, good quarterbacks have bad games.
He’ll be fine either way.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been on Team Jake all offseason. Good quarterbacks do have bad games…but bad quarterbacks have bad games too. The play calling has also been poor. Every third and long is a screen pass. Very predictable…and the offensive line isn’t exactly playing well.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You just risk him
getting hurt with the O-Line playing the way it was. Why not take him out? It’s not like we’re going to pull off a comeback.
I said the same thing.
Just pointing out the fact that he’s not doing any better.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
god bless jake
But am i the only one that wants to punch hime in the face.
What purpose would that serve?
Would you feel better about yourself? Would you send a message?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I would settle for the offensive line to block and there to be less turnovers. I don’t need violence, I need good football execution.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Across the board.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not so angry at the defense right now but they have only been the best of the worst at this point. This is not a John Fox-like team. This is the Arizona game all over again.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The tackling has been poor, the zone coverage has been soft, and there's been no pass rush whatsoever.
When that’s your good unit, there are big problems.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Tampa 2 Baby! Bend don’t break. Tackle don’t force turnovers.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, turnovers are a huge part of the Tampa 2.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not our version is what I was saying.
I just feel good knowing we can get a high draft choice next year…………………in the 2nd round.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank goodness we have Jeff Otah.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
We didn’t need him, he’s not that good, and we’ve blown two drafts because of him now.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright guys, I'm out.
I have to run my van somewhere, and the Panthers aren’t coming back.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
Please....
stop running off tackle on every first down andalso why not try try a draw or screen on one of these 2nd or 3rd and longs to take advantage of the Eagles over pursuit. This is reminds me of last years Eagles Steelers game where the Eagles almost killed Rothlesberger due to the predictability of their play selection. The Steelers came back from that spankin and had a pretty good season if I recall correctly.
I've always
been behind jake, but its hard to back up any quarterback when he throws 9 INT’s in two games, even if it’s the season opener
The Eagles are starting three backups on the line.
And we’re not going to get a sack. Wow.
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We are rushing four all day too. I am not going to blame Peppers for all these problems…but there hasn’t been an impressive unit on the team.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The kickoff team?
And yes, when a guy is getting paid money that could buy three good starters, he must be blamed.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey! He batted a ball down and almost had a sack!
To be fair…the Philadelphia defense hasn’t been great, I spent some of the 1st half sitting at home, calling the plays the panthers will run. 3rd and long? Screen pass! 2nd and 1? Pass!
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Philly defense has been EXCELLENT.
Incredible pressure, great coverage, plugging holes.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s easy to do when you know what is coming also…i don’t want to take anything away from them but they have played well and our offensive play calling isn’t exactly inspired.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't "know what was coming."
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, maybe they didn’t. Jesus, take it easy. You have to have noticed every 3rd and long is a screen pass right?
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true.
On a 3rd-and-9, in the 1st, we went to Smith.
On the 3rd-and-long where Delhomme fumbled, it was a deep pass play.
On a 3rd-and-15, we went deep to Smith.
On a 3rd-and-7, Delhomme was intercepted trying to go to Smith.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, so 4 pass plays we didn’t run a screen. I remember three third and longs where they ran a screen.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So
Good math.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I don’t get what you are saying…and really I don’t care anymore.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
My posts are not showing up.
<50% does not equal “every.” That is what I have tried to say three times now.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, did not mean to exaggerate by saying “every” fucking King Michael Procton
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Impressive language.
Keep it classy, buddy.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the line play! How can he be expected to keep it clean when the line play is so bad!
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Well, that's a legitimate point.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I regret arguing with you. More screen passes should be thrown.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I disagree...
The Panthers have not run any plays to try to neutralize the Eagles agressiveness… Like I said earlier the Eagles did this exact same thing to the Steelers last year and almost killed Rothlisberger. A few more draws and screens would help to keep the Eagles back on their heels a little bit.
I truly feel bad for the Panthers offensive unit and to be honest the Panthers defense never really had a chance to take control of the game due to turnovers and the special teams score..
Delhomme is paid at the AVERAGE rate of an NFL starting QB.
Peppers is paid more than any other PLAYER in the NFL.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That'd be because he is often as not an average QB
So then we should at least be allowed to lay average complaints at the feet of the guy without 3000 excuses.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Typically, he's a well above-average QB.
What do you say those days?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I certainly don’t chase down every positive comment about him and make excuses as to why they aren’t meaningful.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Good for you.
You’re in the minority there.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
McCown hurt.
Let’s just run the ’07 Atlanta offense. All DeAngelo, all the time.
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Brutal…honestly, i am not even watching now. I have started dvring it to get past the bad parts.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What a shame with the holding.
That was a nice play.
Hmm...
A Rosario hold. How shocking. And wow, anybody notice Moore “holding the ball loosely?”
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It’s the terrible line play! How can he be expected to hold the ball properly when he doesn’t have enough time!?
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
I thought excuses weren't ok?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
B/c we wouldn’t want to give the Eagles good field position!
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Mangum was our emergency guy at one point.
They’d probably use DeAngelo if it came to it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that Dan Marino lost a bunch of weight in those commercials
maybe he’s interested in making another try at getting a SB ring
Maybe we can get Brett Favre after he retires next season!
by planedoutbomb on Sep 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Will anybody be offended
If Im spewing Jake-hate the whole week?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2009 3:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i do believe you mean will anybody not be offended
by planedoutbomb on Sep 13, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who cares at this point?
We’ve pretty well established that anything bad that happens in any situation is his fault.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see
why we can’t start blaming everything on John Fox.
I am sure he will get some of the blame…which I think he may deserve some as well.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because everything isn’t Delhomme’s fault, it doesn’t follow that nothing is his fault.
The man pooped the bed in the playoffs last year, and now he’s had a rough opening game. (Both of these games at home no less.)
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
And the defense played poorly in both games as well.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes absolutely.
It would be just as ridiculous for somebody to defend the defense incessantly and claim that nothing was their fault.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Yet nobody has laid any blame to them for either game.
In fact, there is a quote in this thread which states that the defense is at no fault for this game.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s just hope it’s first game jitters.
by planedoutbomb on Sep 13, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Must be nice to have wideouts fight interceptions, not contribute to them.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We seem to have a problem
at every darn position except starting quarterback. That one is set.
The linebackers have been good.
That’s about it. And our kickoff specialist.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Goodson's been consistent
and Captain hasn’t muffed any punts. That’s another good thing.
And our wideouts and our DL and our DBs...
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this really happening?
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lest we forget, Arizona got stomped in week 16 (worse than this, even)...
And made the Super Bowl. One game does not a season make.
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That is very true. It is very disheartening to have this happen 1st game of the year.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
True
I’d rather finish strong than peak too soon. But at the same time, what can we take out of this game that’s really positive? This looks like more than rust and first-game jitters.
We can take the fact that it's just one game out of it.
6% of the season. No more, no less.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Mickey noun got hurt?
*sigh
and we benches Jake, right?
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Did we bench Jake?
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, he was pulled.
McCown was hurt on his second (I think, could have been the first) drive. Knee injury.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
How did Johnson do?
Any word on his condition?
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He got back into the game.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
That's good
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*benched
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Be sure you have correct grammar and everything else correct or else MP will antagonize the heck out of you.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if you use the word every to define a situation that occurs less than half the time.
I’m probably going to call you out on it.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I never do it again….did I just do it again?
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Given that that's a future hope rather than past facts, it's fine.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And Peppers blocked a field goal
Small mercies.
Homeboy loves making the plays when it doesn't matter.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I look for him to get two sacks by the end of the game.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Plays are plays
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not really.
What difference does it make if the game’s already over?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My point was
That it’s better than just not trying
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd have preferred he tried when it still mattered.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So if Delhomme came back in the game and threw 2 TD’s everyone would lay off him? I doubt it.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think
I’d like to see him put up at least as many points as the turnovers cost us.
Of course. We should lower expectations for Peppers and not expect much from him.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Unacceptable.
He is not to be criticized.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This was really a team loss…except for John Kasay. He did kick the ball well when given the chance.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he'll start.
If they didn’t trust him, he would have never gotten the extension.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So when they gave him the extension
they told him it was alright to stink up the first game of the season?
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No more than they told Gamble, Gross, or Peppers the same thing.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It's either him or Vinny ;)
Eh…Who else do we have? I guess yes he does.
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll be back
He’s earned it, he’s our best QB, and it was the first game of the season.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
We’ll be competing for that spot with Tampa
by planedoutbomb on Sep 13, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll be tied for third.
TB ain’t winning either.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
if we’ll break into double-digit turnovers before this is over?
Heh
How many do we have now?
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Seven.
Ugh. Hurts to write.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
:O
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Detroit is doing better than we are.
Them: 27-38
Us: 10 – 38
Anybody can put up 30 on the Saints.
Their defense is AWFUL. My girlfriend, however, defends it by saying that it makes their games “exciting to watch.”
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So is Detroit's
and yet we’ve both given up 38. What
I've never argued our defense won't be pretty bad this year.
I’m scared to death we’ll need to average 35 to win games this year.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems that the Eagles were a step ahead of us every down, on every play (except the first drive)
Can we be optimistic and say that maybe the Eagles got some useful information from our cut players they picked up?
Certainly possible.
But I doubt they knew anything about our gameplan. None of that was installed by the time they left.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Food for thought....
In 2003 the New England Patriots lost 31-0 against the Buffalo Bills in the opener.
That January they beat us in the superbowl.
And as I pointed out, the Cards lost very bad very late in the season last year.
They did alright.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone would argue
that this performance counts us out of the championship running. But it definitely highlights how much work it’s going to take to get there.
Really?
I seem to see more than a few who would argue just that.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm just giving him the Delhomme treatment.
It’s only fair.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a difference
between struggling mightily for a 2nd straight game (months apart) and struggling as a rarely used back-up QB that isn’t very good.
One of them, you expect it from… it’s why he’s a back-up
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RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
Stop right there and kick a field goal.
At least it’ll give us some points
The bad news is that's like 90% of the fanbase.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. It will just be 10,000 people in the stands like there was when they went 1-15. I can finally get more affordable tickets.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If only.
But you discount the 20,000 people there that will just cheer for the other team.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…I feel like throwing up right now. I take these losses hard.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Jake Delhomme
Ya know I hate to say this, but Jake should be cut or traded
Is this the part were we start naming players on the waiver wire or who are unsigned to come in and play QB?
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No
but it’s time we realize that Jake Delhomme isn’t just going to morph into Tom Brady.
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Absolutely
I hope no-one is dilusional enough to think he was ever going to be Tom Brady.
We’ll get a top flight QB in the 2010 draft. We’d have Matt Ryan now if Atlanta didn’t take him.
Who said he would?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely.
Let’s get Charlie Frye! Or bring Cantwell up! Delhomme’s a no-talent bum who’s never done anything in his career.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
If we had only signed Bobby Wade like that guy wanted to in the Fanpost…
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
What he did during his career is irrelevant
the fact is, he’s struggled big time as of late.
I’d like to say that it’s just bad luck… but so many forced passes and all that has to point to him.
Right now, he’s playing like a “no-talent bum”… and we don’t need that from our starter.
Of course, our back-ups are worse, so that’s no help.
And we can’t target a high-upside guy in the 1st round next year, because we’re short a first rounder again.
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"Of late?"
He’s one season removed from 12 wins!
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
12 wins
that was more about the running game than him.
Sure, he had some highlights (SD, for example), but there were plenty of games (Detroit, Oakland come to mind, I think there was at least one more) where he struggled mightily and the running game had to carry him to a win.
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And Chicago? And the Arizona regular season game? And the game in New Orleans?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he didn't win games
I’m just saying you can’t say he’s one season removed from 12 wins.
The team is… not him.
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The team is...the team.
If he gets no individual credit for wins, he gets no individual credit for losses.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 15, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He leads the team to some wins (not 12)
he “leads” the team to some losses (not all 4).
Sunday was one of those “leads” to a loss.
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Jake had a horrible game
Yes, that’s two in a row…. but let’s not call for his head yet. There’s no-one else out there.
Or, is Matt Moore convincing you somehow?
jake is an awesome qb when he is on, but they have to do something to get his confidence back and let him control the team
Yeah, as awesome as he is...
(i.e. not as good as JaMarcus Russell.)
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
No the radiers kept Russell because of all the money they would lose. and what in the hell happened with all the pressure, last year hardly no one got to jake.
Because you lose money by leaving an inferior QB on the bench?
Study up that salary cap again.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Garcia asked for a release
so they gave it to him.
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After he lost the QB competition to Russell.
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
There was never really a competition
1- They have money invested in Russell, so he was in the lead from the get go.
2- He was hurt, so couldn’t play in the pre-season
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So you want an injury-prone player who hasn't held a full-time starting job since 2002?
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by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Me?
No, I don’t want Garcia.
I’m just stating facts.
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Even when Jake throws bad picks
It’s never because he’s not confident, if anything it’s because he’s over confident and believes he can force a pass that he can’t.
As do the offensive line and the receivers and the defense and the punt team.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish Jake had covered better on that Jackson punt return and gotten more pressure on the passer. Jake never gets pressure on the passer.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He also should have blocked better for himself.
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--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He's "scared?"
Based on what?
DeAngelo Williams CANNOT be tackled.
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure Jake is well aware than not one of those was his fault.
So he should be just fine.
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
Still
4 INT and a fumble.
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jake's alot of things...
but ‘scared’ has never been one of them.
Trust me, there is no Panther fan in the world being harder on Jake than he’s being on himself right now.
I worry that “spooked” might be a more accurate term.
He’s a pro, and has been around a long time, so I’m pretty confident that he’ll shake this off. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later. (i.e. I was hoping he would have shaken it off already.)
It ends in an armbar or a strangle regardless.
As you can see he didn’t shake off nothing!!! GET RID OF JAKE!!! GET RID OF JAKE!!!
by pantherfanfromga on Sep 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on only today’s game, I am spooked at the prospect of watching this team 15 more times.
by bengoodfella on Sep 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Have we lost yet?
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can not believe they gave cry baby Jake such a great contract. HE SUCKS!!! Once again, just like in th playoffs he has lost another game for us!!! I am so sick of him. It really pays to be with the coach’s daughter!!! We are in for a long season and my ENTIRE family is from Atlanta so he really needs to stop embarrasing a true fan!!!
by pantherfanfromga on Sep 13, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions
What are you even talking about?
Delhomme is married to Kari Melancon. The entire team lost.
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--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ENTIRE team…no I don’t think so!!! 2 interceptions which the eagles captalized on and a fumble which oh my they captalized on that too!!! Who lost the game??? DELHOMME!! DELHOMME!!!
by pantherfanfromga on Sep 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
He should have covered that punt better. He should have blocked for himself better. He should have gotten more stops on defense.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He knows
like we all do, that the defense isn’t very good.
Maybe he should’ve helped things out by not tossing interceptions and forcing throws.
The QB is the leader on offense, after all
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No Procton
The ints he’s thrown in this game were entirely Jake’s fault. Jake cost us today’s game.
Please watch the recap again and tell me that the interceptions today had nothing to do with Delhomme. The one he threw to Smithy def was not on target, there was one where he had a plenty of time to throw only to give it the Eagles secondary. Of course there were times when O line failed, but a smart quarterback would not force that pass. There’s nothing wrong with getting sacked if you can’t make the play. Don’t just throw the ball hoping some WR would catch it.
Those turnovers cost us the game.
I certainly didn't say they had "nothing to do with Delhomme."
I said none was entirely his fault. Major distinction. The team lost as a team.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's throw a party
It’s over
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And cue
The Jake-Hate
"Figgins' OBP is still over 40!" -Steve Physioc
by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thank God it's over
One of the worst games I’ve ever had the misfortune of watching.
WHO REC'D THIS THREAD???????
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by Figgi4life on Sep 13, 2009 4:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was a great game
FOR ME TO POOP ON
by MrEd12345 on Sep 13, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well guys, the game is finally over.
I wouldn’t call it a productive outing by any regard.
I feel like I’ve seen this before….oh yeah the Cardinals. >.>
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
hey lets put it in perspective..defense played ok..they only gave up 17 point, it was the turnovers that killed us, but justl ike in the playoffs, when we can’t run the ball we are dead in the water.
Sure we do.
Muhammad led the team in receiving. But if there’s no blocking, nobody will perform.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
King, Barnidge?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Jarrett's dead to me
It doesn’t matter how much money we threw at him. If he’s the 4th option and we even have to mention him as any kind of factor our troubles are far deeper.
The opening drive was good. But it looked like the team was not prepared. Playmakers make plays… none of ours could make a play.
Furthermore, can we stop this money-see monkey-do bullshit with the wildcat. It’s clearly not working.
What money?
He’s very affordable.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake Delhomme is simply too SLOW!
Was the loss all his fault, no, but it starts with him. This was a carbon copy of the Cardinals game, great opening drive, the other team COMPLETELY figures out the game plan, shut down the run and wait for Jake to collapse. People wake up, Jake Delhomme is not our only problem, but he is our biggest. SLOW, SLOW, SLOW, pocket awareness, pregressions / reads, scrambling, its like he cannot think as fast as the game is being played. Maybe he will bounce back, I doubt it, but honestly, Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, Johnathan Stweart, Julius peppers, the tallent is there, with injurys to the defense the quarterback play has to be strong. Oh why didnt we wait on resigning him, there is not a person on this blog that would argue that Jay Cutler would have put us over the top offensively. Im going to calm down now, but it is as obvious as the stinch of a good fart; something needs to change before the previously mentioned players get discouraged or too old and like Peppers; want off the sinking ship!
So how precisely would you explain the multiple sack escapes he made early in the game?
Or the scramble for the first down? The only player out of Smith, Williams, Stewart, and Peppers who did anything in the game when it mattered was Williams, and he was eventually shut down by the shoddy line play. You can take Cutler’s (or Brees’, or Aaron Rodgers’) numbers. I’ll take the winner.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Delhomme
oh, he’s winning for us right now.
He escaped sacks early. Good.
And then he had 5 turnovers.
Sure, he led us to the SB years ago.
That time has passed.
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We should have won by 3
Forget for a moment how the bad the pass coverage was. They only had one TD drive not off of a turnover, and a special teams TD. That’s only 14 pts! Had Jake just thrown the ball away or wrapped up the ball and taken a sack when blitzers were in his face, then we would have complety been in this… And probably won!
I officially am starting the sign Jeff Garcia movement. He might not fit our offense, but a couple plays here and there is all we need.
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by southtunnel on Sep 13, 2009 5:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
NOT HIS FAULT
We keep making excuses for Jake year after year and he never gets any better. I think he is on a downhill run and at his age that will be hard to turn around. We will never get any better with him at the helm of this floundering ship. We have a whole season of teams that are just as good as the Eagles or better, at this rate I can’t wait for hockey season to start. At least the Hurricanes made it into the playoffs and did very well until they ran into the Flyers. I don’t want to lay the whole day’s mess on Jake because there is more than enough to go around and the rest of the team are young and just arn’t playing (coaching let down). Jake has had alot of sucess in the past, but that was in the past not the future. I hope Jerry R, John F and Marty H will take a honest look at the current roster and make some adjustments to lay a sound future for this team. If I thought they were doing that I wouldn’t worry about a losing season, but I don’t see that happening. I guess I need to find something else to do on Sundays.
What are you talking about?
The Flyers lost in the first round and never played the Hurricanes. But hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your argument.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 13, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sory Cwilly1… but EPIC FAIL
Even wikipedia can tell you we played pretty mediocre throughout the playoffs barely making it through two amazing opponents before losing to the Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins
I don't need to read wikipedia...
to know that the Hurricanes played fine hockey and beat two different teams both seeded higher than them.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh
I stand corrected, my head was spinning when I wrote this.But they showed alot of heart and went much futher than anyone expected them to go.
Carolina Hurricanes are one of my loves.
Hockey is friggin’ rugby on ice. I wish the state would get further behind their most sucessful professional team.
Amen for the voice of reason.
The Panthers turnovers and special team breakdown made the Eagles look like the 2nd coming of the 1972 Dolphins. However, I personally really put most of the blame on poor gameday coaching by the offensive staff.
I think the gameplan coming in was great. We came out and rammed it down their throats but then got drunk on our success to early after only the first drive, went to play action way to early on the second drive against the best cornerbacks in the NFL and Sheldon Brown comes up with a terrific INT and it snowballs from there. The way to beat the Eagles is to committ to the run, pound them and then go to play action once they start crowding the box, I’ve seen the Giants & Skins beat the Eagles with this formula time after time. I really think the Panthers could have done it also. Delhomme is what he is and they should stick to a game plan that suits him. Also the Eagles we’re really primed to be burned by a draw play after the second quarter and I can’t remember the Panthers trying even one. At least it might have kept the linebackers on their heels a bit. Take solace that the Eagles beat the Steelers in similar fashion last season. Hopefully the Panthers can rally amongst themselves and carry a chip on shoulder to Atlanta and take it out on a familiar division rival.
GO PANTHERS!!!
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I guess we can say the same thing after next weeks game and I guess it is not too hard to figure out I have no confidence in the Panthers at this time. The team basically is very talented but the coaching staff and Jake are out of phase with the teams abilities and players. Don’t misunderstand me I have been a fan ever since they started here and will continue to support them, but they have got to take a good look at themselves and be willing to make corrections no matter that they are.
If Jake comes out and throws 4 TD, no picks and has a rating of 110 against Atlanta...
how many people calling for his head now will own up and admit they were wrong.
My guess is less than 5%
don't be ridiculous
If he threw that many TDs and had no picks his rating would be at least 120.
And the same people who hate him now would still find a way to call for his head.
I hope he does and we beat them 42 to zip, but I do not think he can come back as we hope he can. Age is just catching him faster than he or John thinks it is. Jake gave us some wonderful wins in the last minutes of alst of games but I feel that magic is gone. It may take a couple of years but we need to start finding the replacement.
Moore and Mccown have shown that they aren't it
The replacement either isn’t on the roster, or this problem goes far beyond the quarterback.
It might be 5%
but then he’ll come back the week after and struggle again.
That’s not going to get it done in this league.
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Lol, will you own up to it when he doesnt?
11 turnovers in 2 games, and now he’s gonna throw 4 TDs and no picks? This isn’t Disney World
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You know what ST, I was going to wait until tomorrow to issue the challenge... but
Jake has averaged a QB rating avg of 26.9 in his last two full games (Arizona and Philly)
If he has a lower QB rating next week (I’ll even spot an extra 10 to make it 36.9) I’ll admit I’m wrong and add:
I was wrong and “NAME, NAME, NAME” were right: Jake Delhomme sucks and should be fired
to the bottom of all my posts as a signature. If people want to take on this challenge I will expect them to write
I was wrong and James The Aussie was right: Jake isn’t that bad after all!
But they won't.
Jake haters are and will continue to be set in their ways.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
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Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
Haters comments sure will be easy to write this week.
Jake has proven he’s a good NFL QB, and Henning has proven he’s a good OC. Jake/Henning were a good combo. Jake screwed up today, but whoever put together that abortion of a blocking scheme and the game plan we used on offense needs to be calling plays in pop warner.
This is the second game in a row that we crushed the other team on our opening drive, then were crushed back. If only there was a word to describe what a team should do in that situation… like adjust or something…
+1 million
It’s funny how after 8 months of seeing the same posters every day, all discussing the team we magically get 100 new people all calling for Jake’s head with again no alternatives.
Oh wait… the messiah Jeff Garcia… my mistake
Jeff would be amazingly bad in our offense
Far worse than Jake.
On the other hand, if we called a bunch of screens and slants then maybe Jake would look a little better than he did today.
How could he look worse
Has he ever had 5 plus turnovers in back to back games? He doesn’t fit our offense, but all he needs to do is protect the ball.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Don't pretend Garcia has never had a bad game.
He’s had seven games of 3+ INTs in his career.
That number is identical to Delhomme’s.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
New people
You have 100 new people that are commenting because the season just started and some of us have just found this site. Also I have be stating that the Panthers needed to be looking for several years for his replacement. We needed that replacement here a couple years ago to tutor under Jake and be ready to take over when what we are seeing happening now, happens. All we have now is fill ins not the future.
Does Jeff Garcia=playoffs?
Would he have performed better with that O-Line?
If you believe the answer to both of those is yes, then I will humbly disagree that a QB who was cut by one of the worst teams in the NFL is the answer.
I have no problems with new people with new perspectives… but these perspectives offer no new insights. Nothing that hasn’t been discussed ad naseum throughout the summer.
Personally, I feel that the more the merrier. But, I’m also being fairly territorial about the best Panther’s site on the internet being watered down with hate and becoming a glorified Charlotte Observer comment section.
Getting cut by the Raiders means nothing
he was going to be a back-up because the Raiders have a lot invested in JaMarcus, so he asked for a release.
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My bad.
So… where is he playing now then?
I mean if he’s such an amazing commodity i’m confused why teams were’nt clamming for him.
Because everyone has guys they're comfortable with
it’ll take till past the 1st game to find a team that still needs a QB.
Teams refuse to believe that their guy sucks until he stinks it up week after week.
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Oh, and
if McNabb is out long, the Eagles will go after him.
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My bad.
So… where is he playing now then?
I mean if he’s such an amazing commodity i’m confused why teams were’nt clamming for him.
He was going to be a backup because he wasn't as good as Russell.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you.....
that Garcia would not have fared better today, but if McCown is hurt bad and we need to sign a back up QB, I have to say Garcia when he was with the Eagles was one tough SOB who played within his capabilities avoided turnovers and could fare well with the Panthers running game. He won’t win a game with his arm but he won’t lose it either.
With that said IMHO this team’s best chance to win is with Jake Delhomme at QB.
GO PANTHERS!!!
He would not have fared better???? Are you kidding me?
You are saying Garcia would have had 5 turnovers and 4 INTS? No way. He would done a better job dodging the blitz and hit our TEs, who were open all day. Remember Philly only got 2 TDs on their own. Garcia would have protected the ball, and with our running game, that’s all it would have taken to win.
This crap about he doesn’t fit in our offense is ridiculous. 11 turnovers in 2 games is what doesn’t fit in our offense.
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It doesn't matter if a receiver (TE or not) is open...
When the defense is immediately in the face of the quarterback due to piss-poor blocking of the line.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want what I said to be misconstrued
I’m excited to have more voices, I really am.
It’s just that analysis here goes beyond the superficial and we always have a tendency to really deeply breakdown a situation beyond ‘Person X sucks’ or ‘Person Y is crap’
I like to leave that stuff to the Observer. Things here get spirited, and are full of emotion but are almost always backed up with some solutions, not just problems and not just skin deep comments.
Good to see you on the boards : )
Thanks
I am not a Jake hater at all, I just believe in reality and I don’t think player evaluation is very good with the Panthers staff and they hold on to players too long. With free agency you can’t run your team like that and stay sucessful in the NFL. I think Jake will go down as one of our better players picked overall and has had more impact, but time slips on by.
You're right.
They won 12 games last year with a terrible roster. Their player evaluation is the worst in the NFL.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well let me break the trend... Jake X sucks, Jake Y is crap!
I can’t break it down any deeper than that. I have defended this guy too long… I just can’t do it anymore. Sub par QB ratings I can deal with in John Fox’s system. But 5+ turnovers! Enough is enough! Everybody knows how to rattle Jake now… this is not going to get better.
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Of course he would have played better because he's mobile!
All he would have had to do was check down to RBs or TEs… OR at worst case just throw the ball away. I am 100% confident that Garcia could do that! But Jake has never been able to do anything except chuck the ball down field.
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+a billion
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--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Dan Henning coaches in Miami.
What is his relation to the proceedings?
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--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow...
I’m not sure which is more surprising to me…
1) How badly the Panthers played.
2) That this thread has 919 posts (at last count)
3) That Michael Procton is posting again.
4) That many folks will single-handedly select Jake as the sole cause of the meltdown and immediately call for his release.
Yes. I’m being sarcastic.
My four cents,
—Neil
Come on Jaxon
It wasn’t that bad. Have you forgotten that this is the guy that took us to a Superbowl? Plus every QB… guys like Garcia, would have thrown 4 INTs today too. Plus Jake will bounce back next week. That’s what he does! He will throw for 4 TDs against ATL, and then bend over and shoot one out his tail pipe to Smitty for an 80 yard TD.
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What gave it away?
Was it his last statement there? That kinda set mine off too.
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No doubt Jake didn't play 'well'
but to act like we would have won that game if he didn’t throw the picks is ridiculous. The Eagles beat us in every phase of the game and like usual the mass majority of the fanbase want to put all of it on Delhomme.
by James Dator on Sep 13, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We might not have won
but it wouldn’t be 38-10 either.
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A loss is a loss
It could have been 38-3
Jake was the reason for the Williams TD run, he called the audible.
Agreed
but if it’s close, then one play can turn it from a loss to a win.
Avoid the TOs, score even once, and you have a ballgame where a late play by the defense of the offense gives you the win.
Obviously, that’d require the defense to be good (they were for the most part) as well, and it’s hard to see how the game would’ve gone down, but if you avoid the TOs, the team will generally still be in the game.
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And the special teams, and the offensive line, and the receivers.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
What is the difference?
There are two columns in the standings: wins and losses. No “great wins,” “awful losses,” “blowout wins,” “last-play losses,” or anything else. A loss is a loss is a loss.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes, though, a loss is more than a loss
I was thinking how we would have been reacting, had we been Bengal fans, and lost our first game on a fluke that resembled the “immaculate reception.”
We’d have been just as mad about the loss, but wouldn’t be turning on our team, or calling for this or that guy’s ouster, benching, etc.
This goes deeper than a loss. This is a concern for the future.
"We" might not have been.
But you obviously forget this is Charlotte. One loss, no matter what kind, sends half the fanbase off the deep end. And it’s always Delhomme’s fault.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Only when he has 5 TOs
if he had a perfect game (well, maybe not perfect, but if he left us in it), and the defense gave up a 90 yard drive in the final minute, it wouldn’t be on Delhomme.
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Yet people would still find a way to blame it on him.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Sep 14, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but some people live by the
“blame the QB for everything” rule.
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Proof
Neil, that proves that there are many Panther fans out there and they get excited and say what they feel. I have enjoyed reading everyone of the comments. I might not agree with most of them but we are showing our love and concern for the team.
Welcome CWilly
I have been the pessimist of the off season. And I am sad to say it just got much worse.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Well I had to leave and find a brickwall to bang my head against after the game, but hopefully things will get better including my head.
Two things
First- I’m with ST. I didn’t post much here during the off-season, but I’m a huge pessimist and the lack of movement this offseason didn’t help things.
Second- (and more importantly, I think)… hopefully your head isn’t too damaged
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Well....
Don’t get mad at me when I say that I hope that the ball is put in Jake’s hands as few times as possible. At this point, we need to give our running game a chance to win games. Irregardless of how bad we did, we’re still JUST 0-1.
We have one of the best RB’s in the league, the best linebacker core with the most depth, we’re still a pretty good team. We didn’t show it on the football field today, aside from the opening drive.
That’s probably what makes me the most upset. We showed on the opening drive that we could win the game. Just over an 8 minute drive, 70 yards, and a TD. And then we implode. Weird, weird football. Oh well, next week guys. Next week.
90% run, 10% pretending to pass the ball. That’s the gameplan for next week.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
I completely agree, when we run the ball we have the two best rb’s in the league no doubt about it. But when they say “ok jake you have to chuck the ball like you used to.” thats when it gets bad, hopefully we will be able to build up the o line and take out atlanta. if jake can sit himself down and look in the mirror and say ok it’s partially my fault that we lost and I need to play better and rally the troops we will have another playoff run. However, haven’t we seen this scenario before? Kerry Collins?
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