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Former Charlotte Observer writer Pat Yasinkas posted this article on espn.com...

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-13-36/Camp-Confidential--Panthers-eye-next-step.html

It is up to date as of this afternoon at 1pm, and talks about Carolina's depth issues, particularly now with Kemo out for the season on IR. It also mentions how the Panthers have never had back to back winning seasons, and how the coaching staff and management plan to change that fact in 2009.

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Some highlights for those to lazy to read it:

Can Delhomme recover from his horrible performance in the playoff loss to Arizona?

 
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  Jake Delhomme needs to forget about his performance in last season's playoff loss to Arizona.

That game was the ugliest of Delhomme's career. He threw five interceptions and lost a fumble. But that game was totally out of character with everything else Delhomme has done for this franchise.

That's why Fox and Hurney decided to stick with their quarterback even when fans were screaming for a change. For whatever reason, the Panthers got thrown off their basic philosophy in the Arizona game and Delhomme suddenly was asked to win a game by himself. That's not what Delhomme does and it's not Fox's style.

The Panthers simply need to let Delhomme get back to what he does best; that's going out and managing a game. With an excellent running game around him, Delhomme's at his best when he simply is asked not to lose games.

More perspective from people refusing to take sides in the great Jake debate. Take it or leave it.

How devastating was the loss of Kemoeatu?

More than you might think. Kemoeatu is a very average defensive tackle with no pass-rush skills and should be replaceable. But the problem is the Panthers had absolutely no depth behind him.

Tell us about it. I hope Meeks can apply some of that small lineman knowledge to the Panthers. He goes on further to discuss our losses on depth to the Offensive Line.

Market watch

 

Wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett has been one of the most talked about players this offseason. He was disappointing his first two seasons, but there have been signs of hope throughout offseason workouts and early in camp. Jarrett seems to have finally picked up the offense and many say he appears more dedicated this year. Although Muhsin Muhammad is still going strong at 36, the Panthers need Jarrett to start taking on a bigger role.

It is good to hear as many words of encouragement as we can get regarding Dwayne Jarrett. If he can step up and become a good possession receiver, then we may be just as deadly through the air as we are on the ground.

The Panthers took running back Mike Goodson in the fourth round. They have a very good tandem with DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, but you're going to see a fair amount of Goodson. He has excellent speed and some skills as a receiver. Carolina's going to install a few new offensive wrinkles to try to get him the ball in space and he could be a big factor in the return game.

Good to hear that Slash is making news along with Smash and Dash. I was fired up about our running game last season, but I am very excited to see what new dynamics that Goodson will bring coming out of the backfield and out on the wing.

The battle for the starting fullback job might be more competitive than you think. Veteran Brad Hoover has been a very dependable player and an underrated part of this offense for a very long time. But Hoover has taken a pounding through the years and it's starting to catch up to his body. Rookie Anthony Fiammetta is a younger version of Hoover and he's picking up the system very quickly. At the very least, Fiammetta is going to get significant playing time.

Time to warm up your voices to yell Toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooony instead of Hooooooooooooooooooover. Is it possible that Brad is out of a job?

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Delhomme had about three bad games last year & for the life of me I don’t understand how anyone could not forsee that debacle of a game against Arizona happening. He was throwing to Smith all year in double coverage & all Arz had to do was be patient and double team his only two targets and voila! It aggravates me to no end how this guy gets a free pass time & time again. The only thing he’s living off is nostalgia, he’s not the same guy in 2003 and he will never be that guy again. Why have a guy who’s a liability at the most important position on offense? Why have a guy that can’t make plays on his own, that can only be used as a “game manager”, and that chokes in the biggest game of his career? The reason Jarrett isn’t “developing” is because his QB has a severe case of tunnel vision and Fox will not give him a chance, sometimes even not allowing him to dress for gameday.

by D.W.G. on Aug 6, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who would you rather have.... Eli maybe?

I mean he’s the highest paid QB in the league now… should be worlds better than Mr. tunnel vision right? Of course his career QB rating is 9 points lower than Jake’s. And Eli had a career year in 2008, yet Jake’s rating was only 2 points lower.

I am the first one to call Jake inconsistent, but c’mon… this is a little over board.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

I’ve been screaming Eli Manning/Delhomme comparisons since Eli came into the league. Look at both of their stats and their is no comparison (Delhomme obviously bettter)…..and yet one is generally considered bad while one is considered good.

And DWG…..really? You actually believe that Jarrett’s problems are due to Jake Delhomme? I don’t see Moose or Smitty having trouble. The reality IMO is somewhere closer to the fact that Jarrett is still a young WR and might just need a little longer to develop in order to be successful in this league.

by R-F on Aug 8, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Carolina just has bad QB fans.

Though let’s be fair. Until Eli won the Super Bowl, everyone was all over his rear too. All the comparisons to his big brother and things like that. I have a feeling that if Jake Delhomme won the Super Bowl, everyone would shut up similar to what happened with Eli simply because fans will know that he’s done it before.

Same thing with a certain Dallas QB, except they have won the Super Bowl in the past. Carolina is hungry for their first championship. We’re hungry to put one in our history. Rawr and stuff.

"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Aug 8, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10000

The only reason Eli has gotten any credit at all is because of his Super Bowl win. He did have a very long stretch of not throwing an interception during that run and some late game heroics in the Super Bowl. But all in all, his overall numbers were rather pedestrian and have continued to be so. The Giants have been consistently good because of their defense and running game, very similar to us. If Eli never won that Super Bowl he’d be facing much more criticism and would not have the contract he has today. Like-wise Jake would be facing MUCH less criticism if he had a Super Bowl under his belt.

by pancanbra on Aug 8, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with both

I mean, I know why Eli got the big contract and I know why people generally hold him in higher regard…….I just don’t think it is too much of a stretch for most fans to look past the OMG SUPER BOWL WIN!!! and realize that Eli hasn’t been very good to date so far.

by R-F on Aug 8, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1.0946643217€¥£

The Superbowl win did a lot for him. But I do think Eli gets undeserved credit sometimes just because he’s a Manning.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 8, 2009 10:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of tunnel vision, which I do agree, Jake gets from time to time, if you want to find someone in the NFL with the biggest case of tunnel vision look no further than Mr. Two Time Super Bowl Winner: Big Ben. I never really noticed until I decided to draft Santonio Holmes in my fantasy league and WOW, he looks for Hines Ward in EVERY play, no matter what. I think the only time that changed was in the Super Bowl.

by pancanbra on Aug 8, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

I never really noticed it before but I’m gonna have to pay attention to that next time I watch him.

by R-F on Aug 8, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha 'tunnel' vision!

Is that when you agree with Southtunnel?

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by Jaxon on Aug 10, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you implying I'm stubborn?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 14, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fiiiiiiiaaaaaaammeeeeeeeettaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It’s just not quite the same is it?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 6, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The guy looks like a sledgehammer

I am excited with him in at FB! : )

by Flowing Willow on Aug 7, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooony

You cant expect Carolina fans to be able to chant and pronounce his last name =P

by Tater596 on Aug 7, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jake is the best option right now...

Who would you expect to come in here and be the savior of the Carolina franchise? With our two running backs and our above average defense, Jake is our best option. Thanx for the stats southtunnel.

by JPTarheel on Aug 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

97Mil!!!

And some of use complained about Jake’s contract.

Would ANYONE here take Eli with that 15M/year contract over Jake?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 7, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brett Favre.

"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Aug 8, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rev...did someone replace your grape juice with real wine?

Brett Favre is our answer at QB? I just can;t even work up a good response to that.

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by Jaxon on Aug 10, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Farve is just a Hall of Fame version of Jake

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Aug 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I smell a wonderful football season for the Panther Nation!!

by tarheelfan on Aug 7, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

although...

I guess we could chant…

Fee-Ah-Mah-Tah

cha cha ch-ch-cha

you know, like how when a college upset occurs they chant Ov-Er-Ra-Ted

by Tater596 on Aug 7, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that one! lol

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by Jaxon on Aug 7, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

Someone at a Panthers game should start that. How did HOOOOOOOOOVEEEEEEEEER get started anyway?

by Flowing Willow on Aug 8, 2009 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It started with Moooooose...

Not our Moose, but a Dallas player who had that nickname — he’s now a TV commentator. Can’t remember his name, too lazy to research it, but I thought his first name was Darrell or something — a FB or TE.

Nowadays anybody with an oooo sound to their name gets that call from the stands.

by bigdavis on Aug 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

…Daryl! Now I can sleep tonight.

by bigdavis on Aug 8, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jake d

we all know jake isnt a pedigreed qb like some of the other guys in the nfl. Our huge problem is really at the reciever position. if we can find a wide out that can be a down the field reciever that can compliment smitty we would b a whole lot better. d jarrett still hasnt come around and we all know what muhammad can do because he was our premiere reciever after the ray carruth mess and before smitty turned into the nfls graetest

by kenyatta on Aug 11, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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