A big ole' dose of Jake hate!
by Tater596 on Aug 14, 2009 12:37 PM EDT
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The Great Jake Debate continues. This time we have an article written by someone who is clearly a Jake hater. So for those who hate, have a read and relish in how bitter this guy is. For those who love, read it and defend him!
Usually I provide some analysis of the article, but it's just another team preview. Pretty run of the mill other than all the Jake trashing. I'll spare you my (hate) opinion, because I've said my piece many times on the issue.
Jaxon has been kind enough to highlight the passage i was referring to:
Update by Jaxon: Tater must be referring to this passage:
Jake Delhomme looks like one of the Brothers Followill, talks like Forrest Gump, and throws like one of the Jonas Brothers. And yet he has signed a contract to do his job, which requires, at least, a non-Jonas performance with his arm, for eight digits of income over the next six years of his life. He’s never thrown fewer than 12 interceptions in a full season in his career, and never committed fewer than 15 combined turnovers when playing in at least 13 games. And his playoff implosion against the Cardinals was downright Favreian.
Jaxon: "That's pretty damn insulting but I admit I know not what 'Brothers Followill" refers to."
Also, I'd like to highlight this passage, which sounds to much like the grumblings of a disgruntled Panther fan to be considered in any way non-biased writing:
The last NFL QB older than 30 to start and win a Super Bowl was Brad Johnson in 2002; Peyton Manning was 30 when he won Super Bowl XLI.
Is Delhomme really the horse a team should be betting on to buck that trend?
AND....
And with their ground game and defense still both reminiscent of threshers, they have as much chance to survive the playoffs as any NFC team.
Of course, this assumes that Jake Delhomme will only throw one interception a game.
And heck.. i'll toss in an infuriating image for no reason at all.
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Wow... just wow...
That is some of the poorest, most uninformed writing I have seen in a long time.
I wont even dignify a proper response to a blog saying ‘Steve Smith will miss a game due to injury’.
by James The Aussie on Aug 14, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I posted it because he is just so so bitter about the Jake re-signing. It’s almost satirical. Both sides of the issues can laugh because he is so far off in his own land.
by Tater596 on Aug 14, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Stats can say anything. He says that Jake has never thrown fewer than 12 INT’s in a full season but then leaves out that he has never thrown more than 16 either.
And yes, I am familiar with TBL and realize that this guy is just writing that to be funny. I just hope that others realize this too and don’t take this “expert” opinion to be fact. It’s pretty easy to write bad things about Delhomme after the playoff performance and this dude obviously took the easy way out. I expected more from TBL…..making fun of Delhomme is too easy.
Also, I LOVE the “sarcastic” comment he put at the end….
“Of course, this assumes that Jake Delhomme will only throw one interception a game.”
Oh, really? Because he averages LESS THAN ONE INTERCEPTION A GAME FOR HIS CAREER. How about this guy actually try using sarcasm that makes sense.
by R-F on Aug 14, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sracasm is hard to pull off in writing I have found...so I avoid it
or make it obvious
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, maybe he wasn't using sarcasm
But regardless, he implied that Jake will have trouble throwing only one INT a game when he has never thrown more than one a game in any season that he has ever played.
But usually you can pull off a satirical piece pretty easily on TBL because that is what their readers come to expect.
by R-F on Aug 14, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
Thanks Jaxon for highlighting the except. I should have done that.
by Tater596 on Aug 14, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
extremists....
gotta love them. At least they are entertaining along with foolish.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 14, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t agree more with the article. I think you homers need to take off the rose colored sunglasses & stop drinking the Jake Juice. The man has NEVER had FEWER than 12 INTERCEPTIONS during a season in his ENTIRE CAREER!! Hes a turnover machine and he will be the reason the offense stalls. Its cool though, when he’s at interception # 15 or more by November & the Panthers have a losing record, Im not even going to say I told you so.
by D.W.G. on Aug 14, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he's never thrown
more than 16 INT in his ENTIRE CAREER. So why would you automatically assume that he will be at 15+ by November?
You almost seem happy at the thought of the Panthers having a losing record. I hope you feel great when you take delight if the Panthers do indeed struggle.
by R-F on Aug 14, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last I checked, 12 INTs in a season is a great number.
If you’re at 10 or below, you’ve basically had an otherwordly season. Why don’t we, instead, look at Jake’s TD:INT ratio with the Panthers 1.58. That sure compares pretty favorably to:
Drew Brees-1.70 (Isn’t this guy considered to be among the very top QBs in the league?)
Chad Pennington-1.63 (One of the “most efficient players in the league?”)
Kurt Warner-1.60 (A guy who may have a shot at the Hall of Fame?)
Jason Campbell-1.52 (He was worth spending a 1st-rounder on…)
Brett Favre-1.49 (surefire HoFer.)
Ben Roethlisberger-1.46 (2X SB champ.)
Jay Cutler-1.46 (Considered a savior in Chicago)
Eli Manning-1.26 (Yes, the highest-paid player in the league.)
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice research and stats.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Aug 16, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And why do you have to be a troll or what not because you dont kiss Delhommes & Foxs butt? Im so sick of the “you are not a fan” talk if you disagree with someone on anything or if you feel your team can improve at a certain position(QB). Real fans know Delhomme is not the answer at this stage in career & the Panthers have done a horrible job in trying to find his replacement.
by D.W.G. on Aug 14, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake - best we got for now.
Leadership and passion the guy is great.
Technical skills – well, I hope that new QB coach learns him a thing or two…
The Panthers are not trying to find his replacement. Though there were rumors last year of a move up to get Matt Ryan. Too bad he was so high of a pick.
Would really love to see them draft Tebow next year, but FL QB’s seldom thrive in the NFL (Rex Grossman, among others…)
by Barbados on Aug 14, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how you define 'real' fans
I could define a ‘real’ fan as someone who shows loyalty to the team even during rough times, or loyalty to the QB that got us to the SB. I have no problem with the opinion of the Jake Haters, I just happen to disagree for the ‘09 season. If he sucks this year then you can freely say “I told you so”. The stats don’t lie, no fewer than 12 INT’s a season. I bet some of those INT’s were the WR fault right? Regardless, Jake has qualities that don’t show up in stats other than W-L. He has the confidence of his teammates around him. I’m going to trust that they know what they are talking about given they are in the huddle with him. You can disagree if you want, its a free country!
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jake Haters are real fans too
I am a known Jake Hater, and that is because I am a big fan of Carolina Panther football. I want to see the Panthers win a Super Bowl, and my opinion is that Jake isn’t the sturdy, game-managing hand that we need to get us over the hump.
Other opinions differ, and that is why the debate exists.
However, we are all united in the cause of Panther football, and I can tell you this… Jake Delhomme will have 100% of my support on Sundays as long as he is under center in a uniform with a big black cat on it. With that said, I will be critical, but I will cheer for him.
by Tater596 on Aug 14, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said Tater
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 15, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Know who else has never thrown fewer than 12 INTs in a full season?
Carson Palmer
Brett Favre
Tony Romo
Derek Anderson
Matt Schaub
Matt Leinart
Vince Young
Jon Kitna
Byron Leftwich
Brad Johnson
David Carr
Mark Brunell
Brian Griese
So let’s not pretend like 12 INTs is some impossibly high number.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call, chief.
Last I checked, qualifying to be a real fan didn’t include suggesting a guy with a .621% winning percentage “isn’t the answer.”
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh BTW, the troll that was on here dropping all the F-bombs has been banned
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's coming back under different IDs.
by Barbados on Aug 14, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, three so far. we've put in for an IP ban
but it takes a little while. I’ve banned 3 user accounts so far. He’s probably like 13 years old and thinks its sooo funny. What an ass clown
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bubba and Cory over at Canes Country had to do the same thing with the same “ass clown”.
I missed all the name changing and everything… darn… I needed a good laugh. Laid off, and car blew an engine all in the same day…
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 14, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a bad day
so tomorrow can only get better!
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I HOPE so!!!
I apologize for stating the obvious earlier… I didnt read the comments below.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 15, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If profanity is your problem, then what makes calling someone an "@$$ clown" any different?
What happened to “having thick skin” and “staying above the fray?”
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You probably missed the junk this person was putting up.
But it was like a post a minute for an hour Friday afternoon with every variation of “F”-itis you could imagine. Real toilet stuff. It’s been removed. Can tolerate the occasional “F” for emphasis sake, but this just a constant stream of fecal-fetish stuff. If you saw it, you’d know. Likely some 8 year old impressing his friends. “ass clown” is appropriate in this use. It fit. It’s all done now. Better to lay off Jaxon, he did a great job jumping on it fast and resolving.
by Barbados on Aug 16, 2009 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's just interesting to see how the blog lord chooses to enforce his supposed code of conduct.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 16, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify it then...
when the profanity is directed at another person and/or is simply gratuitous profanity for no reason, which the guy that was banned was doing, about 40 straight comments to that affect, that violates the code. Sure, these things can be subjective but I try to give ‘regulars’ some leeway.
As far as my use of the word ‘Ass’, its used on prime time TV and is hardly considered profanity in this day and time. MP, if your sore about something I’d be happy to discuss it with you. Just send me an email and how to contact you.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 17, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sore about anything.
Just trying to understand the mixed messages.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 17, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Procton, you are a Purist Utopian
Seriously, by court of subscribers, the troll who as on here was absolutely awful, obnoxious, childish etc. Jaxon by no means in his term “ass” is committing to a double standard. Seriously, the court of your peers on this blog all agree. The childish poster was completely out of control and many of us chimed in to Jaxon to please remove the offender.
You are making mushroom clouds from mouse farts. It’s not worth getting fixated on the one word, and I can assure you the court of your blogging peers will rule in Jaxon’s favor. Kudos to Jaxon for his quick action.
“Action Jaxon” ? (Sorry couldn’t resist)
by Barbados on Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's an old one
and I have heard it all. Thanks for the support. As this site grows (400% just in 09) I obviously can’t monitor every thread and comment, but I try to get to them all. That troll could not have been more obvious than a man running down the street on fire. Those are the easy ones to get rid of.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who was this troll, or is this taboo and not worth mentioning?
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Aug 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a troll...
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than a fabled guy under a bridge
A troll is what? (Dumb to ask maybe)
by Barbados on Aug 15, 2009 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is my definition
Not a dumb question at all. There may be an official one somewhere…
troll: a person who posts smack on a blog they have no real interest in simply to stir up crap. When a blog has no control over membership as many other Panther sites are set up, they ruin it for everybody who does care about the blog. SBN fortunately has great admin controls and we can limit the trolling for the most part. I feel like its one thing that separates us from many other sites. Just my opinion though
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 15, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most blogs do have some sort of membership control.
Don’t know exactly where you’re talking about.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wikipedia says:
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional or disciplinary response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wikipedia
Wikipedia and other online encyclopedias are not considered dpendable sources. Anyone can add content to them making them unreliable.
by Davejinxer on Aug 15, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not true.
Wikipedia is edited, and in the case of unstable articles which would be vandalized as you suggest, they are locked and protected. Thanks for trying, though.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave, Dave, Dave
You’ve been talking to my Fox-News watching sister again.
Actually, you don’t know her, but I had this debate with her, and pretty much proved the reliability of Wiki by it’s links. Yes, Wiki IS user contributed and every reader of that should keep it in mind. “Unreliable” is not at all accurate, but the information is subject to cross-validation, and should be from time-to-time.
If you feel Wiki is unreliable in a specific entry, you always have the links to check as well. It’s WAY more data-oriented than any news show, but with any information you are responsible for cross-checking facts and source-data if constructing you PhD thesis. For a blog entry on a definition of a web term, it’ll do just fine.
Wiki is good by it’s links to it’s source data, because you can always check those links to validate the individual entries.
by Barbados on Aug 16, 2009 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This same moron is doing the exact same thing on Canes Country....
I really feel pretty bad for him, obviously wasn’t hugged enough as a child and is crying for attention so badly it has reached this point.
by James The Aussie on Aug 14, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...Canes Country sent me an email a short while ago
We have an pretty rigorous Admin console. I can see everything any member of my blog does. It tracks user names to the IP address so it lists the all usernames assciates with the IP so its easy to see what he is doing. He will go away eventually…thanks for your patience.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 14, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most people have dynamic IPs at their homes
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 14, 2009 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What's that?
The IP ban must work because none of the other bloggers have mentioned it. And trust me they would.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 15, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dynamic IPs mean your IP is reassigned every time you get on the internet.
Fact is though, even if your connection has a “dynamic” IP, your ISP isn’t likely to actually change it very often.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would just have to recycle power to their ISP modem
But most probably don’t care enough to go to the hassle. Or they see the ban and don’t bother.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 15, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many ISPs have a defined length for an IP, so it doesn't even matter whether you turn your modem off or not.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this is a stretch, but...
Likely the 8-year-old with the posting fecal-oral gibberish Friday didn’t care much about dynamic IP addresses.
by Barbados on Aug 16, 2009 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That person's interest in the matter is just as likely as them being eight years old.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 16, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's still gone so...
I guess the IP ban worked
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Canes???
Is that what you follow after a dissappointing NFL post season?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 14, 2009 4:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I love me some Carolina Hurricanes... if you haven't experienced a game live you really need to.
by James The Aussie on Aug 14, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
It’s amazing we have such a good hockey atmosphere here in NC.
by Tater596 on Aug 14, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i absolutely hate hockey
and i hate the hurricanes i WAS a semi fan when they went too the cup, but that year i went to a game and they lost 9 to freaking 0.
i also went to a playoff game last season agaist the bruins and they played like absolute crap.
the panthers during football season and the braves during baseball season,
im one of the lucky ones who can be entertained by both
by carolinabrave89 on Aug 14, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont get what you are trying to say...
you “HATE” hockey because the only two times you went to a game they lost? They play 82+ games a season dude!!!
And I understand that you like baseball.. I personally am not a fan, but is it honestly more interesting then hockey?!
I dont get it….
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 15, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got weak ankles maybe?
Did the move Friday the 13th and Jason Vorhees scare the crap out of you as a child?
Are you an Icophobe?
How can you ‘hate’ hockey. There is a thin line between love and hate. Now if you were ‘indifferent’ that would make more sense. I’m not a hockey fan but I do watch playoff hockey. Plenty of action in hockey. What gives carolinabrave89?
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 15, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a hockey related side note...
I think every Carolina professional sports team should send their GM to Raleigh for a 3 month crash course in GMing 101 from Jim Rutherford of the Canes. If there is a better GM year in, year out in ANY professional sports franchise, I’d like to see them.
by James The Aussie on Aug 17, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The entire management of the Carolina Hurricanes should be commended for creating an above average fanbase for a team playing hockey in the SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES.
When the Canes won the cup, they would interview the opposing players, and all of them talked about what a rowdy and loud atmosphere the RBC center in Raleigh was. They called it just as intimidating as playing a game in any of the Canadian arenas where hockey is HUGE. Also, the Hurricanes are the first professional hockey team to have cheerleaders… and what nice cheerleaders they are. Wow.
by Tater596 on Aug 24, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've tried but can't get into it
I love Football, Basketball and international Soccer… but can’t hang with Baseball either.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 14, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played soccer from the ages of 4-19… I love the sport… but hockey is BY FAR the better sport to watch on TV then Soccer.
I do not understand the American mindset that hockey is not a “valid” sport… It has EVERYTHING a sport fan loves- passion, intensity, finesse, fighting, skilled plays, awesome defense, fast paced, amazing goals….
I just dont get it….
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 15, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
is just a biased bunch of turd lickers.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 15, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Where was ESPN mentioned?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that as a point into one of the reasons why Americans are not as into hockey as other sports… because ESPN does not pump it up as a valid sport. They do no support it at all…
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 15, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aha.
Part of that was that there was no ratings support for the NHL when they had the rights. It goes both ways, you know.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew you were going to pull that card...
wich to SOME extent(stats…imagine that…) might be true…
BUT what is not published and you can not see on Wiki is that the NHL was not ever truly promoted or publicized by ESPN to begin with, which lead back to my main point…. LACK OF PROMOTION. Part of that is the NHL’s fault, but if you really think that the NHL is not capable of becoming a more valued asset, then that is just your opinion.
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 16, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
They showed games. They covered it with NHL 2nite. They included many highlights on SC (something they haven’t done since they gave up the rights. I’m certain they could hold some value, but not at the pre-lockout price point the league was setting. ESPN is pretty good at that money-making business, you know?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 16, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many games a week did they play?
What time slot was NHL2Night on?
Now with VS having the rights, ESPN has done its best to further the demise of the NHL. This season they started to embrace it a little bit just because of the AO/Sid matchup and then Sid winning his first Cup. They did it for the money.
If they really didnt spend ALL DAY talking about Favre and Vick- they could probably fit in some hockey news… or some other sport like MMA… a large part of the population would be happy if ESPN broadened their coverage.
But hey… sex and violence sell- even though a lot of people disagree with the tactics..
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
It’s tough to justify statements like yours about “expanded coverage” when hockey and MMA get very little ratings pull from the consumer. Yes, the constant talk about Favre and Vick is nauseating, but the ratings say those are stories people care about. I’m not even saying I disagree with your overall point. However, the “large part of the population” votes with their wallets and their eyeballs. And when it comes to consumption of fringe sports, they’re very quiet.
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 17, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell that to the UFC 100 promoters, and who ever gets all that payperview money
“if you build it, they will come”
If NHL and MMA had respectable coverage on ESPN the fans wold flock there sooner or later… Of course to make this a reality there would probably literally have to be 8 ESPN channels… cant leave the Vick crowd without their 20 min updates…
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 17, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. I was wondering the same thing
Just figured you hated them so much, you’d throw it in there… “oh and by the way, ESPN is just a biased bunch of turd lickers”
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 15, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you disagree?
I mean you’ve watched NFL Live… are the Panthers EVER mentioned without being a DOMINATING force?
Does the NHL ever get any reps other then Sid Crosby and Alex O?!
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 16, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watch NFLN
I don’t turn on ESPN til basketball starts. They will have to mention the Panthers Mon :)
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 16, 2009 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had that option! haha
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 16, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get Dish
Do everything you can to prevent TWC from getting your business
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 17, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But then I have to pay for FSN and VS… This hockey fan can not go without those two…
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 17, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Priorities man!
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep...
The Panthers get played on Fox most weekends, and ESPN all others..
FSN and VS it is!!! =p
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 17, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Southy - Tell me about Dish.
Here’s the situation:
1. I live in Raleigh. I got kids who get distracted easily and specifically one junior in high school who desperately needs good grades to get to college. I killed cable and do HD over the air. My kids hate that, but grades outweigh MTV Cribs the way I see it.
2. Still I miss real sports on channels. What does Dish cost you a month? Can I limit it to just sports? (I doubt it!)
3. I am a cheap ass. I love paying nothing and getting HD. But still, football and ACC basketball. Sooo tempting.
Just curious. Thanks.
by Barbados on Aug 18, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got Direct TV...its okay with the selection
NFLN with the expanded sports package. I’ve decided to not get the Sunday Ticket this year. Its nice if you can handle the steep price in my view ($250) but decided I could do without it since I have NFLN.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Aug 18, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry just saw your question
Many people prefer Direct TV, but Dish has been good to me. I pay $85 a month for their Silver 200 package + HBO… can’t go without Entourage, Curb Your Enthusiasm and Flight of the Conchords. They supposedly have far more HD channels than cable.
They recently upgraded me to HD with one wireless box that somehow serves al my TVs… All for free. If you maintain a good payment history with them, they will keep all your equipment up to date at no charge.
The only problem I have is that my trees block me from getting all the available HD channels.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Aug 23, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(and HD...gross)
My first argument against socialized healthcare? Yunel Escobar's grill.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no...
Thats what you watch every day but Sundays during the hrs of the Panthers games… then you hit the jump button A LOT!!
by packpigskinfan25 on Aug 14, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Jake Delhomme Fan.
I love the Panthers, but have never been a fan of Jake. I can’t believe they gave him that fat extension after blowing it against a scrub AZ team, at home! They could have actually won the game if Jake hadn’t stuck the defense on the field for so long.
You pay players big money for winnning the big game, not blowing them.
by Deciding_Factor on Aug 15, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which "fat extension?"
The one that lowered his cap number? And what exactly was Jake doing when he was getting us to the 2nd-best record in the NFL and winning the division? Blowing games?
Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.
by MichaelProcton on Aug 15, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That AZ game...
Really elicits an emotional response. Every fan grits his teeth and spits because of it. And it won’t be healed until way into this season. Jake had alot to do with it, even though the defense let Fitz run all over them first half.
But I’d hardly call Arizona scrub. They dang near won the Superbowl.
by Barbados on Aug 16, 2009 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deciding_Factor
Regardless of what you think of Jake’s performance in the AZ game please remember that:
1. The main reason we lost was bad playcalling, we moved away from Panther football and we’re going to lose any game that we’re calling 70/30 pass. We’re not built that way.
2. The defense didn’t exactly stop Arizona either.
3. Arizona was not a scrub team. If they’re a scrub what does that make us? or the Eagles? Furthermore, they were 1 drive from beating Pittsburgh.
by James The Aussie on Aug 17, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To add to point #3
They were one AMAZING catch away.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Aug 17, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not pretend like are passing game isn't a part of Panther football
Obviously Fox wants to run the ball. But Jake has led us to multiple victories with the ball in his hands, so you can’t completely blame Fox for thinking he could do it again. I mean this is the same guy who had a shootout with Tom Brady in the Superbowl.
Plus before that first INT we were moving the ball fine and looked to be getting in position to score. Had Jake just protected the ball better, who knows what the next play might have been.
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by southtunnel on Aug 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say 'passing isn't a part of Panther football'
But to say we played ‘our game’ against Arizona is ludicrous. Did Delhomme throw the ints? No doubt. However, in that game:
- We ran the ball 15 times and passed 34 times… thats a 0.306 ratio of total plays.
- During the rest of the season we ran 504 times and passed 414 times…. that’s a 0.549 ratio of run to pass.
I’m not going to completely blame Fox, but it’s pretty clear we totally averted from our gameplan. You can’t get blood from a stone, and the coaches asked Delhomme to do something he’s clearly never been able to go, completely take over a game with his arm.
by James The Aussie on Aug 17, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just got beat on many levels in that game
QB play, coaching, game planning, defense. As ‘blog lord’ (MP’s term) I might have to implement a new rule. Once the Eagles game rolls around no more talk of that god-forsaken AZ game! Can I get a second on that? Wait…blog lord doesn’t need a second…[gavel pounds]!
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by Jaxon on Aug 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't remember...
Both offenses were pretty abysmal in the SB through halftime. And after that INT, the defense was still in position to make a stop. And they didn’t…for the next six drives!
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by MichaelProcton on Aug 17, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if the line didn’t allow him to be hit during his backpedal people wouldn’t blame him for the fumble. Arizona just outplayed the Panthers, and honestly they out-coached them.
by Cyberjag on Aug 17, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Az did out play and out coach us.
But in the fumble that was mentioned, he was not hit in his backpedal.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Aug 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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