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NFP's camp countdown: NFC South

Matt Bowen, a former NFL player, has been writing a series of articles for the National Football Post (NFP) regarding the #1 issue each team faces heading into training camp and the upcoming season. He has finally gotten around to the NFC South, and shows enormous respect for our division as a whole. What was his #1 issue for the Panthers? What Else?

 

Carolina Panthers: Delhomme’s consistency
The Panthers put an end to questions about QB Jake Delhomme(notes) when they signed him to a contract extension after the season – while some thought they would start preparing for the future with a young arm at the position. Ultimately though, people need to understand Delhomme has a role in Carolina. Even more, that role must be played correctly in ’09.

I don’t believe we can judge Delhomme’s 2008 season based off one playoff performance (17-of-34 passing, 205 yards, 1 TD, 5 INTs) because he helped get the Panthers into the postseason and secure a first-round bye. But if this team wants to repeat as NFC South champs, he has to be more consistent and he has to continue to play his role. That means handing the ball off to running backs DeAngelo Williams(notes) and Jonathan Stewart(notes) and getting the ball down the field to wide receiver Steve Smith. It’s easy to look at Delhomme’s numbers and call him average (3,288 yards, 15 TDs, 12 INTs), but all you have to do when talking about this team is look at Smith’s impact (78 receptions, 1, 421 yards, 6 TDs) to see Delhomme’s value. He’s never going to put up numbers like a Brees or a Manning because that’s not they way this team plays football on offense. It’s a run-first team that uses Smith in the vertical passing game in game-changing plays.

Delhomme is still the leader of this offense, but he has to cut down on the mistakes and he has to avoid games when he comes apart at the seams. He knows his role, the team knows his role, and this is why he heads into camp with a new contract.

Star-divide

Now, everyone, forgive me for starting another Jake Delhomme conversation, because without fail the comments section will blow up into the usual Jake vs. The Hate debate. But I, for one, am known as a Jake hater on this blog, and I think this is the most fair assesment of Delhomme I have ever read. It isn't hammering him unjustly for his occasional inconsistency, but it is putting it into perspective what needs to happen for Carolina to make a Superbowl run. This is why I like to read articles and hear commentary from ex-players instead of self-proclaimed "experts" that have never played at the NFL level. (granted not all ex-players make the best commentary, but i feel they have a higher percentage and a better ability to translate what they are seeing to field situations) Many would argue that this isn't the single issue that will affect our season most, that honor probably belongs to the improvement of the Defense, but the team does tend to rise and fall on the arm of Jake.

Actually, the way the article reads, it is almost as if the author has been reading page after page of our comments section here on Cat Scratch Reader doesn't it?

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Nice find Tater

I would agree with your commentary as well.

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by Jaxon on Jul 21, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I will note, for the sake of fairness...

That Matt Bowen is in love with counting stats at the QB position. He’s recently written that Carson Palmer is a model franchise QB (even though he hasn’t actually had a good year since he got hurt in ‘05) and Ben Roethlisberger is not (even though he’s won two Super Bowls in the last four years.) He does, however, at least seem to give Delhomme his fair shake as a guy who knows his role and usually gets Carolina where they want to go.

As for this comment of your own, “the team does tend to rise and fall on the arm of Jake,” I’d say that it usually has less to do with Jake than it does the run game. Before the season last year, I said we’d make the playoffs if we were a top 15 rushing team. If we can (very reasonably) get to the same level (and the top 10—if not the top 5—should be a lock), I don’t see why we don’t make it again.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 21, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

True

If our run game does its job, the “arm of Jake” wont really be that necessary.

by Tater596 on Jul 21, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with you Tater

I am labeled a Jake-hater just because I have concerns about the guy. But Bowen nails what I have been very bad at communicating. Jake definitely helped us get to the post-season… And then he took us out of it. Despite the inconsistency he does still has a huge role on this team. And he can get it done in 09’ if he “avoids games when he comes apart at the seams”.

He did leave out our most prominent defensive concerns… He could almost have put the Falcons remarks in our section.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 21, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the problem.

He didn’t “take us out of it” any more than the bad gameplan or the poor performance of the defense or the weak catching of the receivers did.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 21, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

For one, we abandoned the run too early which took away our best weapon, and put a lot of pressure on Jake. But had Jake not panicked and forced the ball, maybe just took a sack or thrown it away then we still could have had a chance.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 2:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So, wait...

having gotten ourselves into unmanageable down-and-distance situations and punting the ball to an offense the defense couldn’t stop at all would have been a better situation? Sorry, I don’t see it.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Jake a lot for that game for obvious reasons but in my mind the defensive and offensive game plan were at much at fault. The defense never even gave the offense a chance to get back in the game because they kept giving up touchdowns. The Panthers offense is not built to come back and it is shocking how quickly they gave up on the running game.

If I did not have faith in John Fox and think it was just a bad game plan for him, the idea of letting Larry Fitzgerald run wild in the secondary was a fireable offense in my mind. I don’t even want to talk about it. I am not saying run man defense or anything but they were constantly losing him.

Jake hurt the team, but giving the ball back to the Cardinals offense was not a good option either. They were scoring at will. Just a bad, bad game all around.

by bengoodfella on Jul 22, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, Jake should have thrown a maximum of 15 passes in that game if they had game planned it right. The running game did not work on their second possession and it was never heard from again.

by bengoodfella on Jul 22, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure there is a lot of blame to go around

I just don’t understand why 5 interceptions for a QB, and yet it’s not fair for him to get a large share of the blame.

I can understand defending his career or his value to the team, but trying to defend his 6 turnover performance is not realistic.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not fair for him to get the ONLY share of the blame.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not fair for him to get the ONLY share of the blame.

I’ve yet to see you get on the defense for not forcing a punt in seven consecutive drives; I’ve not seen you get on the receivers for not catching multiple balls that deflected and ultimately ended up in the defense’s hands. No, you jsut want to be on Jake.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That game still bothers me

I know Jake really sucked, but what bothered me the most was the coaching staff. We abandoned the run too early, Jake wasn’t taken out of the game, and our defensive plays were horrible.

Taking Jake out of the game could go either way. I understand why Jake was still out there, ‘cause he gives us the best chance to win, and to have another QB throwing the ball could’ve been risky. But at the same time, if a QB’s playing that bad, I think you could take the risk of subbing out your starting QB.

But I think we could’ve prevented what seemed to be a blowout, if we played the same style we’ve been playing all year with or without Jake’s performance. Watching the game after Jake turned the ball over a couple times was too predictable; run, run, and then attempt to pass on the third down. I don’t even want to get started on defense, but I’m glad that Lucas is no longer here, and we have a new DC.

by Shockers on Jul 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes punting would have been better

You do that on 4th down. But if you throw an INT you might only get one or two downs before turning the ball over. Not to mention you have an opportunity to pin them inside the 20, instead of a someone picking it and running as far as they can. Yes I would rather have them try go 80+ yards. Who knows?… Maybe the play after the INT could have been a big run play.

It doesn’t matter how you try to paint it, turnovers are bad.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it doesn't matter how YOU paint it...

The defense wasn’t stopping anybody that night.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone think we were just over confident?

Seemed like we got up for all the games we were supposed to lose or be close. But the MIN, ATL 2nd, TB 1st, ARZ 2nd… Weren’t these games most people thought we’d win? And OAK, DET???

Seems like a reocurring theme

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

None of the first four games you mention had us as heavy favorites, if at all.

There is no such thing as an easy game in the NFL, and the players and staff are well aware of that.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the game plan just sucked. It was the biggest let down I have ever experienced as a sports fan and that is saying something. The team never showed up, absent the first few minutes of the game.

by bengoodfella on Jul 22, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to be heavy favorites to be over confident.

MIN we had just come off of 2 big wins. The previous 2 games before TB we out scored our opponents 58-9! ATL we beat them 24-9 without running the ball well the first game, and Jake had one of his best games of the season.

They all say “there’s no easy game in the NFL”, that’s politically correct… but I don’t buy that mentally they come out the same against Oakland compared to NYG.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet we beat Oakland and lost to New York.

What does that say, if they cared more about beating NY?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 22, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That says that New York was a really good team, and Oakland was a really bad team.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 22, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit was def and “easy game” in the NFL last year… 0-16… wow.

by packpigskinfan25 on Jul 23, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

But yet

We almost managed to screw that one up to a la Oakland.

by Tater596 on Jul 23, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The same way a good Ravens team DID lose to Miami in '07?

Come on, guys. They’re all professional athletes.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 23, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Ravens were emotionally exhausted

They had just taken the undefeated Patriots to the very last play of the game in a thriller. And it still took a big play in OT to lose. As for us vs Detroit, there is no doubt we came out sleeping against them, as well as vs Atlanta #2. But the difference between the two games is that we won one. As long as you win it doesn’t matter how, it still counts as a win. To borrow a John Fox saying, you don’t get style points in this league.

by Flowing Willow on Jul 23, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Being a professional athlete doesn't mean they always are mentally prepared

It has to be tough to get up for 16+ games, all with max intensity. You get dinged up and tired… then that Detroit game has to look like more of a break compared to NYG.

That being said I wonder how that affects them in 09 with a packed sched? Do they get burnt out? Or do they do better to match intensity since there really is no easy game?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fox does a great job preparing us as underdogs

it’s when we are favored or have nothing much to prove that we relax.

by Flowing Willow on Jul 24, 2009 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That seems to be the trend

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jul 24, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Tater… This article basically says what I have thought all along.

by packpigskinfan25 on Jul 22, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

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