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Panther Paw Prints - Bad Taste in Mouth Edition

This edition of Paw Prints leads with a post by Andrew Mason from Panthers.com that summarizes one of the general feelings coming from the teams recent OTA's.

Mason's Minutes: Fox's final words a reminder

"It's like that elephant in the room; it's there," Fox said. "You can't pretend that it's not. But I think guys have felt that, and I've seen that through their work this offseason -- both in conditioning and in football opportunities, whether it was minicamp or OTAs." "It definitely hurts when you think about it," added middle linebacker Jon Beason. "It comes up in conversation a lot among guys in the locker room. So it's good that we're conscious of it." From the pain of the loss comes motivation. From motivation, the Panthers believe, will rise a better result. "You look at that game -- we know we could beat them," Beason said. "And that's the disappointing part of it. At the end of the day, we know we're good enough to play with them, and on that day, we didn't get it done. So all we can do know is come out, compete every day and get better."

This team should have a very bad taste in its mouth based on how last season ended. Please let it serve as constant motivation.

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  • Not every Panther is taking a vacation this time of year.

Panthers OL hopes strongman skills pay off on field | The Herald - Rock Hill, SC
"The strongman training is something that can bridge the gap between the weight room and the football field," DeFranco said. "To me, it's a more functional strength. When you have to flip a 600-pound tire, you have to manipulate your body into some awkward positions, and it's a lot heavier than anything you're going to see on the field."

I'm liking this guys chances of being a quality back-up on the offensive line more and more.

  • A hat tip to Dave Jinxer for putting up this Fanshot I thought was worth more attention. It's nice to know Jake doesn't forget his lessons learned.

NFL: Jake Delhomme's style, skills still fit Carolina Panthers' formula - ESPN
"We do play a schedule that will be tough, but I'm not making the mistake I made in 2004," Delhomme said. "We were coming off a Super Bowl, and the schedule was supposed to be easy. I remember San Diego being 4-12. They went 12-4 and killed us. You have to just worry about the next game. If you get too far down the line, you make a mess for yourself. You never know what injures will happen."

Strength of schedule at this point in the off-season doesn't necessarily mean anything. Teams go up and down as we saw the same Chargers team go from AFC preseason SB pick to 8-8. Maybe that NFC South divisional match-up had something to do with it!

  • I've been wondering why J-Stew wasn't participating in OTA's

The Associated Press: Panthers RB Stewart vows to be ready for camp
Stewart revealed details of the injury for the first time Tuesday. Stewart said the Achilles' first flared up in offseason conditioning in February and likely stems from favoring his left foot after toe surgery last offseason.

Geez, just imagine when this guy gets 100% healthy what he can do.

Update: I found some pix I thought I would share.

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(Above) Safety Anthony Scirrotta UDFA, practices hugging up to HC John Fox. Check out slimmed down OC Jeff Davidson below:

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here's mine: Delhomme: "What, sissors doesn't beat rock?!"

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Mackenzie=BEAST

Also, I always think the “motivation” aspect of winning is terribly overrated. If these guys aren’t motivated by winning and the money they get paid, they should probably be doing something else. ::COUGH COUGH…PEPPERS::

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 17, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just a few points

1. I really hope Bernardeau doesn’t get himself hurt doing some of these events. In the heat of competition people get quite irrational and try to “push through” pain. Those events take a huge toll on the body, and I hope he listens to coach Simmons about saving some for the season. With that said, i am very impressed with his work ethic and desire to be ready for success.

2. I hope Stew does get fully healthy at some point. I am starting to wonder if he ever will. Some players just cannot get over that bug. The good news about him (in relation to injuries) is that he plays through most of his “dings”.

3. As for the motivation aspect, all people are different. There is no cookie cutter answer to say "someone should . . . ". Determining what motivates a person, IMO, should be one of the things discussed in a players evaluation. I am a Wolfpack fan and have been a volunteer strength coach with them last summer, and I know for a fact that the NCSU coaches highly value a player with intrinsic motivation. They make team leaders. If you can get your best players to be your hardest workers, then that work ethic becomes contagious. I heard a quote from Joe Montana saying “Every team has at least a few knuckle heads. The difference between winning teams and losing teams is the ratio of leaders to knuckle heads.”

Will Parker

by WillParker81 on Jun 17, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

1. He’s apparently training under a pretty reputable coach. Something like five or six other (current) NFL guys do it as well during the offseason, and Simmons signed off on it. Said something like the tire flip isn’t much more than a dead lift with a bit more forearm emphasis.

2. His dings are something he’s been getting since high school, and they worry me, not for their debilitating nature, but because of the cumulative effect of them. I fear he could be one of those backs who helps NFL=Not For Long.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simmons also:

" . . . warned the second-year blocker not to overexert himself, because there’s a long season in front of him."

Will Parker

by WillParker81 on Jun 17, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GO PACK

Sorry, had to add that in there…as I’m a fellow wolfpack fan (my alma mater)

by boywonderncsu on Jun 18, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad you clarified which 'Pack' you were pulling for!

Wolfpack is fine…carry on.

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by Jaxon on Jun 18, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look here, bucko! It'd BETTER be fine!

We don’t have “Go to hell Carolina” in our fight song for nothin’! We ain’t afraid of a little confrontation!

by r3 on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My caption for the Delhomme picture...

“What do you MEAN he was double covered?”

by Tater596 on Jun 17, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried about Jake

I watched the Tampa game on NFL Replay, and even in that incredible win Jake had 2 ugly interceptions. Made me wonder if our dominating running game camouflaged how bad he really was last year.

Also almost every big play highlight from last year he seems to be under throwing the receiver every time! The ‘03 highlights he always put it way out in front of receivers… Maybe that surgery didn’t go as well as they have lead us to believe.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jun 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was a matter of the surgery's success...

I think it was a matter of the guy having to basically relearn how a new arm works. Hopefully, he’ll have better feel and touch after a full normal offseason worth of throwing.

Also, did he just get lucky in all the drives he made to put us on top last year?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 17, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was throwing to Steve Smith!

Watch this video. One thing he does well is he throws it high where only Smitty can go up and get it. But almost every down field pass, Smitty has to slow down and turn around to make the catch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0hv1LNwfM

I saw Moose having to do the same thing in the Tampa game, and the announcers kept saying “great catch because that ball was under thrown”.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jun 17, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So explain the perfect throw TO ROSARIO to win us the SD game.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 17, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so explain every OTHER throw after the first game of the season…

by packpigskinfan25 on Jun 18, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Delhomme made key throws on more than one occasion to players who weren't named Smith or Muhammad.

He made throws to King, in particular, that helped turn around the Chicago and Arizona games.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 18, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they are saying he under throws 'every' ball

Just that he did under throw a lot of balls. Timing has an impact on this as well, and the route run by the receiver. Based on pitchers that have TJ surgery it usually takes a full year to get back to ‘normal’ even though he claimed he was 100% all last season. This is a big year for Jake in many ways. He can’t have the INT’s he had last season. I much as I support Jake he has to get better in that area period.

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

But when you look at it, he was generally interception-free. 7 of his 12 regular-season picks came in two games, and 9 came in three.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 18, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to look at all of them and see how many..

were tipped by the receiver, meaning should have been caught but wasn’t. I know at least 3-5 fall in that category, 2 just from the first Bucs game.

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Jun 18, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

Rosario was a frequent culprit.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 18, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's not jump to extremes

Of course no one meant he under throws EVERY ball. And of course he made SOME key throws. Jake is great when the game is close… even quite often engineering 4th quarter comebacks. However if we get behind by a few scores, Jake becomes a liability. Because at that point we have to rely solely on throwing the ball… And he just doesn’t handle those situations well.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jun 20, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if our defense or running game can keep games close, then Jake will probably be fine. But other than an occasional 4th quarter comeback, don’t expect him to win games

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Jun 20, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes pitchers two years to recover

Granted they throw more, but they aren’t getting hit. Delhomme never had the strongest arm, and I think the surgery will help this year for him to regain some of his arm-strength.

by Flowing Willow on Jun 18, 2009 5:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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