Fantasy Football
by usana_gaines on May 7, 2009 1:18 AM EDT
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That's right, I've made the decision that from now on, Cicno De Mayo is the official day to start thinking fantasy football. I really think we should have a CSR league, but besides that, let's talk Carolina fantasy.
I am saying it here, first, D-Will is the BEST RB in the NFL. However, his fantasy numbers will not be as good because defenses will be geared to stop him more, and I'm expecting J-Stew to miss less time due to injury. Smitty, under a revised Jake (it's all mental) will be even better than last year, and will play all 16 games.
The question, however, is this. Which offensive player will have a breakout year?
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Hopefully this is the year.
Daunte Rosario is going to break out! 50 catches for 550 yards. The ghost of Wesley Walls has taken a new host, and it ain’t going to be pretty!
Wooooooooo!
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on May 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
No CHANCE that’s happening. Not unless he somehow becomes the primary option as the #3 split out wide, and we start throwing to that player with regularity in our offense.
by MichaelProcton on May 7, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. My hope is that Gary Barnidge steps up and Rosario never gets 50 catches for his career. I think we have seen what he can do so far. Of course our TE is mostly a 6th OL, so I don’t know if the TE will ever get any chances to catch the ball to have 50 catches in a year.
by bengoodfella on May 7, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheeze Procton calm down. I'm halfway joking.
It would be pretty nice if Gary Barnidge stepped up, but I still haven’t taken my mind off of Week 1 when Rosario racked up almost 100 yards and I was hoping he would make it a regular affair. What I’m saying is that we need to get some production out of these TE’s this year. In 07 Jeff King had 400 yards and I was fine with that. But we need to have at least one guy that makes a bunch of catches.
Plus we’re getting a new QB coach for Delhomme. I’m wondering if he might throw in that direction regularly. Rosario is entering his 3rd year, the usual breakout year for players. There’s just a lot of little things that come into the equation that makes me hold out hope.
I mean cmon doesn’t anyone here remember the Wesley Walls days? At least 500 yards a year? I miss those days. Oh well.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on May 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha...
I know. I will note, though, that Walls missed 500 his last three years though. Other things to note: those teams were worse, so they were passing more to catch up late in games; John Fox didn’t coach those teams, so they were passing more regardless of situation; the primary WRs were nowhere near as good as Smitty or even Moose, so the TE (Walls) was naturally a better option. Where do you think team-leading Mark Carrier of ‘96 (58-808) would rank on our recent teams in receiving? Hell, in ’97, Walls LED THE TEAM 58-746 ahead of our boy Carruth and Carrier. As we started getting legit receivers after that (Muhammad in ’98, Jeffers in ’99), Walls’ touches and yardage went down.
by MichaelProcton on May 7, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, come on now...
I’ll take the 13 catches a year until Rosario’s rookie contract is up to get him to 50. That’d push him to 24th in Panthers lore. Surprisingly enough, he’s already at #31.
by MichaelProcton on May 7, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You needed another option: None of the above
I’m not being pessimistic, but it takes a lot of production to be a regular fantasy play. I do think several on the list will have an ‘improved’ fantasy season but not necessarily be weekly plays like Smitty and D-Will. I think Jake will have a better season than last but still might not crack top 10 fantasy-wise because he won’t throw for a lot of TD’s.
I voted for J-Stew though.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on May 7, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
I don’t think anybody on here will have huge gains in terms of fantasy production. I too, though, voted for Stewart in the belief he might get more carries this year.
by MichaelProcton on May 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Dwayne Jarrett because I am insane and feel bad for him. Unless your fantasy league gives points for catching a 10 yard slant on third down, I don’t think he will actually do anything.
by bengoodfella on May 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair.
Dwayne Jarrett has some nice sleeper value. I wish he had done more when Steve Smith was gone, but if he’s available in the 15th round I don’t mind taking him.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on May 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say there is a chance
Jarrett develops into a reliable option at some point. It’s his 3rd year, this is the year he either gets it or he follows the path of Carter and Colbert.
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by Jaxon on May 8, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
be real
When you say 10 yard slant on 3rd down, you mean a 10 yard slant on 3rd and 18, and Foxy took a chance by not running a draw.
by usana_gaines on May 8, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is exactly what I meant actually.
by bengoodfella on May 8, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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and how many times did that draw work when the Giants used it with Bradshaw?
by MichaelProcton on May 8, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch, are you a latent Giants fan MP?
I was thinking the off-tackle worked as well as any other run
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by Jaxon on May 8, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah...
Just pointing out that the 3rd-and-long draw is just as good a play as any. When weighted on the risk-reward scale, the number of bad things that can happen on that play are significantly less than those that can on a 3rd-and-long pass play. When you have a good punter and quality coverage units, a punt is a MUCH better play than throwing an interception.
by MichaelProcton on May 8, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may just be easier to avoid 3rd and long overall. I would prefer if the Panthers went in that direction.
by bengoodfella on May 8, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
play calling
i disagree. the 3rd and long draw is not as good as any play. But for most plays, if you never run it, it can work by catching the defense by surprise. That concept has worked for two different teams who ran a reverse to Antwaan Randle El and then he threw a TD pass. However, when it is the norm to run a draw on 3rd and long, it catches nobody by surprise. The Giants usually don’t do that, but we made it easy for them. On 3rd and long, they put in 3 receivers and we put in 6 DBs. Then Derrick Ward ripped off some big runs. Then the next time they had a 3rd and long, they did it again. I don’t understand why we never caught on that Ward might run a draw on 3rd down. In the same game, we kept running the draw which doesn’t surprise anyone when you won’t throw. Delhomme hardly threw the ball in the second half, so our draw never worked. Hence, the 10 yard quick slant on 3rd on 18 to Jarrett.
by usana_gaines on May 11, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh...
It wasn’t just against us that that play worked for them. If the blocking is working, the back can find the hole.
by MichaelProcton on May 11, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully we can just avoid the 3rd and long in the first place.
I like the shotgun 3rd and long draw play. Fake like you’re going to pass and run it up the middle. You have the option to throw it to Steve Smith if the defense goes bork.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on May 12, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fantasy for TEs and RBs
I have a question about these guys. I often wonder why doesn’t Jake dump it down to a RB or TE when he gets in trouble. The immediate answer is he is stuck on Smitty. However, how often are these guys actually going into the flat to catch passes, or are they usually left in to block without providing an outlet for Jake.
We know Jake stunk it up real bad in three games (OAK, DET, ARI), but overall, I wonder how much of his 80 QB rating can be attributed to more than just his decision making. Procton pointed out earlier that Moose had over 900 yards receiving. That’s pretty good for a #2. And if we have a #3, or TE, getting around 500-600 yards, then we’re doing pretty good. I think that TE, though, needs to be Barnidge.
by usana_gaines on May 8, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His dump off was usually to TE King
not a RB like I would prefer. Jake hasn’t always been good at using his safety option, he instead will try to thread the needle to someone down field
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on May 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the game vs the Giants
they threw it a few times to Stewart going out after a play-action. He caught one for a first, and missed the other, I think either Jake threw it low, or he dropped it, maybe both. Coming out of college Stewie was supposed to have good hands, so I would like for him to be targeted more in the passing game.
I did pick Jarret to have a breakout year, he really seemed to “get it” last year, and he’s learning from one of the best possession receivers in Moose. Plus he’s entering year three, which historically is the breakout year for most players. He could be a great weapon in the slot running slants on third down. I think he breaks out this year, and dominates across from Smitty in two years after Moose retires.
by Flowing Willow on May 9, 2009 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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