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Peppers Draft Day Trade Scenarios

You could make an easy argument that if the Panthers don't trade disgruntled DE Julius Peppers by the start of the draft on Saturday then no trade will happen at all. Just about all the major pundits say Peppers just simply isn't worth the price in draft picks and contract dollars for a deal to happen. In spite of all that negativity I still won't be able to wonder pick by pick if a block buster trade isn't about to be announced. So I got to thinking about which specific picks might something happen and free us from the shackle that is Peppers.

#5 Cleveland Browns - Given the Browns picked and paid two 1st round picks last year might be enough for them to trade this one for a sure fire Pro Bowler. They run a 3-4, have a decent nucleus of a team and could make a playoff run this year if they can get a pass rushing star. On the flip side I can't see why Pep would want to go to Cleveland assuming they are not on his list.

 

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#9 Green Bay Packers - The Packers switch to a 3-4 defense should be intriguing and I'm sure they might want a sure-fire performer like Peppers. With former Panther DC Mike Trgovac now the Packers DL coach, is that a positive or negative on this scenario? Again this scenario seems highly unlikely.

#12 Denver Broncos - The Broncos might feel the need to add the star power Peppers would bring to appease a fan base still smarting from the Jay Cutler fiasco. They have the 3-4 defense, the picks and the cap space to make it work. The final question again is would Peppers go ‘mile high'?

#17 New York Jets - Going to New York would reunite Peppers with his old buddy Kris Jenkins, who I think initiated the bad feelings in Carolina and got this whole ‘maxed out' thing started. The biggest question here is whether the Jets would pay the price for his services.

#20 Detroit Lions - The Lions have the money and draft picks to make a deal but again, the thought of Peppers shunning 12-4 Carolina to go to 0-16 Detroit can't possibly result in the formula for ‘maxing his potential'.

#21 Philadelphia Eagles - The Eagles are rumored to be one of the 4 teams on Peppers ‘preferred' list and up until trading for LT Jason Peters they had the immediate draft picks. Because of that trade it now seems less likely the Eagles would be willing or able to pull off another big trade.

#23 New England Patriots - The Patriots remain the most likely landing destination for Peppers but as shrewd as both of these franchises can be it doesn't seem likely anymore. Regardless you can bet I will be apprehensive up until this pick is complete.

#25 Miami Dolphins - This is my sleeper scenario even though this type of trade does not fit in Bill Parcels MO. Regardless I'm positive he is desperate for another star pass rusher opposite Joey Porter. They have the picks and money to make this deal and Miami is a contender in the AFC, which would have to make them attractive to Peppers. Parcels has to be loathing the thought of Peppers ending up in Boston which should be incentive enough for Parcels to at least consider a deal.

There is a remaining scenario that a team could sign Peppers to an offer after the draft thereby deferring compensation to the 2010 and 2011 drafts. I don't think that has ever happened in the NFL and it would surely create some bad blood between the Panthers and the other franchise. Again, a very unlikely scenario.

Barring a blockbuster trade in the next four days Peppers is going to come back to Carolina with his tail between his legs and the certain flurry of questions from the media, fans and his teammates about why a deal didn't get done. I wouldn't be surprised either if the fan base pelts him with a chorus of boos on opening day and then subsequently blames him for every loss the Panthers suffer in 2009. Yes, I'm pretty convinced Peppers wants this to get done now. The sonner the better for all involved.

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Do you think Panthers DE Julius Peppers will be traded before the 2009 draft is completed?
Yes
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No
791 votes

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I hope so

I don’t care where he goes at this point. I just want the Panthers to have cap room, more draft picks and a roster spot available for someone who wants to be in Carolina.

I think I want the Panthers to draft Brian Hoyer in 3/4/5 round if they are able to get another pick or two from Peppers. Right now there are too many needs on the OL/DL but I would like to see him get drafted by us.

by bengoodfella on Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

They made a special visit up to Mich to see him

but I bet they are hoping he goes UDFA. Maybe the Panthers use their #6 on him, or trade the 3rd rounder for a couple later rounders. So hard to guess at this point

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by Jaxon on Apr 22, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd round is extremely high for him but I would like to see the Panthers try to get him…provided we get more picks. Without more picks, I don’t think he is worth the risk.

by bengoodfella on Apr 22, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did yall see this?

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/patriots/michael-felger/deal-peppers-finally-near

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Apr 22, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's hitting the nail on the head

Peppers will sign the tender at the last moment and present an offer to the Panthers leaving them little room to find another suitor. Besides, if Pep says to another potential bidder that he won’t sign with them the Panthers will be stuck somewhat. The Patriots are not going to steal Peppers like they did Randy Moss but I think the Richard Seymour and #34 is a good starting point. It will take another pick or to but I’m betting it gets done

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by Jaxon on Apr 23, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do we have to draft OL?

Last year, other than Otah, didn’t we completely revamp the line through washed up free agents? What’s stopping them from doing that again after the draft?

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Apr 22, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

not exactly

We didn’t revamp the line through washep up FAs. Wharton, Gross, Otah and Kalil are all Panther draft picks, and then we had open competition for the RG spot. According to the Bucs run defense, we did pretty well.

by usana_gaines on Apr 23, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

And all those guys are back

so do what we did last year again, and use the draft for defense.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Apr 23, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peppers trade

I hope so too, but I just don’t think it’s going to happen. Definitely need the cap room and a first round pick this year would be great. If it doesn’t happen, then next year, he"ll just walk and the Panthers get nothing! And what happened to Pep and his, “I don’t want to lwave the team in a bad situation” statem,ent. That sure is what he’s done right now!! Missed out on all possible free agents and couldn’t veen re-sign their long snapper, Jason Kyle! I always liked him all these years, even with his sometimes lack of effort or taking plays off….but right now, he makes me sick!

by Vinnie 16 on Apr 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

At least if Peppers is here this year, then we can blame all our mis-fortune on him. Every weak spot will be a player we could have drafted or traded for. He will hear it from fans all year long!

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Apr 22, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYI

via twitter here

RUMOR: Julius Peppers to New England for Richard Seymour and a 2nd round pick? — Carolina radio WFNZ

True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09

by UtesFan89 on Apr 22, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I really don’t believe that but I really want to believe that. Other than the obvious question of how Seymour would do in a 4-3 defense, that is a trade I would take a good look at.

by bengoodfella on Apr 22, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seymour

was a DT for the Pats in the 4-3 before they went to the 3-4.
I think as long as he knee is fine, this is a deal you take if you can.

True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09

by UtesFan89 on Apr 22, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, that is interesting

Seymour back fills the position somewhat or moves inside to DT. Then the Panthers use the 2nd rounder on a DE. Sure we’d like a little more…throw in a 2010 pick Belichick!

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by Jaxon on Apr 22, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor

I dont think this was something of merritt. I listen to the radio show and I belive this was a fan of the pats here in charlottle who proposed the idea to the chuckle heads hosting the show. I belive he said this and made his point but I wouldnt go farther than a fan calling in to hear the chuckle heads point of view on the matter. But on the other hand it could be possible.
  As far as I know the pats coach is the only coach I have even heard talk about the situation outside of carolina. I find it interesting that he has given his twocents on the matter but no other coach has said a word as far as I know. Could this be a sign of the future for PEP?

by hacory1 on Apr 22, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

After 243 votes it is dead even

121 to 122. Wild

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by Jaxon on Apr 22, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Next poll

Do you WANT Panthers DE Julius Peppers to be traded before the 2009 draft is completed?

It’ll be interesting to see what the opinions are now, just before the draft.

True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09

by UtesFan89 on Apr 22, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can a trade happen during the draft?

Doesn’t he still have to sign the tender first? If he signs it before the draft then couldn’t they send him anywhere? Which would defeat his purpose in picking a 3-4 team. They won’t have enough time between picks to get all this done. Seems like if we don’t know about it before the draft then it won’t happen during.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Apr 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

exactly

If he doesn’t sign Friday, it ain’t happening. No way his agent gets a draft day trade done- wait, doesn’t the draft start at 4pm this year?

Maybe the morning of isn’t out of the question then.

by the bomb dot com on Apr 23, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Darin Gantt's latest mock

if we trade next years first for a 2nd rounder this year, I might have to punch someone.

True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09

by UtesFan89 on Apr 23, 2009 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey, if you can find a PBer in the 2nd round then its a good deal

So many 1st round picks never pan out. Its all about how well you evaluate talent. Make that trade and pick a dud and your toast.

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by Jaxon on Apr 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

But then it'll be the same thing next year

no first rounder, and blah blah.
Plus, next year is looking like a stronger draft that this one.

True Blue Jazz
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09

by UtesFan89 on Apr 23, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seymour and 2nd rounder

This is a very interesting scenario. Seymour would definitely sure up our DT rotation, bumping D-Lew to 3rd DT and pass rusher. With the 2nd rounder, #34 I assume, we could go for a DE that fell a bit like Michael Johnson and still get another DE or CB at #59.

Having Seymour would do a LOT for our defense. Our DL would be very tough against the run, allowing our LB’s to do what they do, run, tackle and make plays. Seymour would also help our pass rush tremendously by providing an inside push (w/D-Lew) and taking double teams away from the DE’s.

This is of course just a scenario, but with the lack of info this off-season I have embraced creativity to keep me interested.

With that said, i do not think Pep will be traded before the draft. There are too many things that need to happen and it still be a “good deal” for both sides.

Will Parker

by WillParker81 on Apr 23, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Johnson=Peppers...

Except with less talent. He’ll show up for a series or a quarter, then he’ll just plain disappear.

by MichaelProcton on Apr 23, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best guess

Is that Denver takes a shot at him.

They’re talking a good game about letting Kyle Orton and Chris SImms compete, they have the draft picks to swing it, their defense is a little bit woeful up front and the scheme would work for Peppers. I see the Broncs as the most likely trade partner for you guys.

by Dave Choate on Apr 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

If Pep is willing to go to Denver

I get the feeling he wants NE or nothing

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by Jaxon on Apr 23, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Extended through 2014

That means $$$ is nw avaiable for other signings…

Kyle?

by panthersnbraves on Apr 23, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't need Kyle now

that we traded for JJ Jansen (was that his name?).

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by Jaxon on Apr 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

Since the pick we traded was conditional, if we feel more comfortable with Kyle, we lose nothing to go that route, except a couple hundred thou under the cap.

by MichaelProcton on Apr 24, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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