Julius Peppers and Ken Lucas to Patriots?
by Revshawn on Mar 3, 2009 12:00 AM EST
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A 3-4 team with a bunch of draft picks? Holy crap. Interesting idea to think about it isn't it?
Let me update you on what's been happening the last 24 hours with the Patriots. After a trade with the Broncos fell through, Matt Cassel and Linebacker Mike Vrabel ended up getting traded to the Chiefs for the 34th pick in the NFL Draft. It's pretty much a free trade to be honest with you. They don't need another QB. They have Tom Brady and they're confident he can come back and be even better than before. And trading Mike doesn't hurt them that much. They've been needing youth at their linebacker core for a long time, while the Chiefs desperately need a sense of leadership and experience in the locker room.
The trade clears up over 14.5 million dollars in their salary cap. Without that aspect a deal with the Panthers wouldn't be possible. Even if this deal doesn't happen, it still gives the Patriots a pretty good cushion to make a few good FA signings before all the good players are signed to other teams.
The 2nd round pick they received in the trade gives the Patriots four picks in the first two rounds: #23, #34, #47, #58. They have a lot of room to make a good trade, and trading a 1st and 2nd round pick to pick up Peppers and Lucas could really help their team fill in at needed positions while not hurting their draft status all that much. For the Panthers on the other end, it will clear them of two big contracts and might allow them to make a move on the remaining defensive linemen still out there like Jason Taylor or one of the defensive tackles still floating around.
What do you guys think? Will the Patriots make the call?
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peppers and lucas for a first and second round pick. not enough in my opinion maybe the first 3 maybe 4 draft picks
by The Evil Genius on Mar 3, 2009 5:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Peppers is worth at least a 1-2. I think when you get Lucas involved the last one in the second or a 3rd rounder will do. It is about us having cap space like the Patriots. The #23 pick is high but a #34 is practically a first rounder. You can still get some top players at their position. #58 for Lucas isn’t too bad. I’d like something like that. Hopefully if we do get the picks we don’t get projected to get a TE like I see in most mock drafts. Pshhhhhh.
by GMallory on Mar 3, 2009 7:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can't see Lucas adding much to this scenario
I’m sure the Patriots would be interested in Peppers but not so much Lucas. The Panthers would be lucky to get a 4th rounder for him
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by Jaxon on Mar 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the Pats doing it...
it might be nice to get the offer, but it’s also the Pats. So I might have to vote no just on principle.
That said, they have a ton of soon to be FAs and all that they need to extend as well… Peppers/Lucas probably aren’t the top priority.
by UtesFan89 on Mar 3, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t see the Pats going after Pep or Lucas. They are trying to get collectively younger on defense, hence the Vrabel trade. Plus, there are a number of quality CBs in this draft that will be available with the 23rd pick, and I don’t think the Pats need Pep.
To be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is another trade between the Chiefs and the Pats on draft day – giving the Chiefs multiple picks and the Pats the opportunity to snap up Aaron Curry. I know its speculative, but after the trade from last Friday, I can’t help but feel there is something else going on between these two teams.
by Griffinmc7 on Mar 3, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It just seems strange that they seemed in a hurry to get $16-17M in cap space
the same amount it would take to sign Peppers.
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by Jaxon on Mar 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about San Diego?
According to Yahoo sports, it’s rumored that Antonio Cromartie could become available in a trade if they can lure Drayton Florence back to San Diego. And since we’re all speculating on which team would Peppers be ok going to, I think San Diego is a solid possibility. Now we wouldn’t be getting their stud nose tackle in Jamal Williams nor would we be getting a high first rounder either. However, I think a trade involving Peppers could net the Panthers Cromartie and possibly more.
by ChipperTeixeira89 on Mar 3, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm still thinking NE
and March Madness
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by Jaxon on Mar 3, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UNC should go all the away
But like in year’s past, will get bounced in either the third or second to last game.
by ChipperTeixeira89 on Mar 3, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, its always fun to watch (see UNC lose)
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by Jaxon on Mar 4, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just get rid of Peppers already or stop floating all this meat out there. This is the third or fourth great deal I’ve heard floated out there and nothing. Peppers is worth alot, and I want alot for him, but I just hope we don’t waste all this time and end up keeping him and getting no first round pick. I want a first round pick, although I have my draft eye on QB Pat White, who could probably be picked in the 2nd round.
by chillicothe20 on Mar 4, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Preaching to the choir
Come on Billy-check, make that deal.
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by Jaxon on Mar 4, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see it happening
That’s not to say I don’t think it could be a good thing, I just don’t see Belichick spending a lot of money to put a quality 4-3 DE into a 3-4 lineup as an OLB. As someone above mentioned, there’s a strong desire to get young on the Pats’ D and we need to lock up NT Vince Wilfork for the long term; Vince is gonna cost us some clams.
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by MaPatsFan on Mar 5, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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