Panthers Franchise Day (Open Thread)
by LittleKing on Feb 19, 2009 10:13 AM EST
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As there will probably be more information coming throughout the day, I figured why post several small stories and just keep it all under one main story. We'll keep the main story updated as the days goes but feel free to post links in the comments as it happens.
10:10 am - So to start out it appears Jordan Gross is about to get his hugh contract with a large up front salary of $30.5 million of the first 3 years of a six year contract.
According to sources, the Panthers and Gross’s representatives are close to finalizing a frontloaded, six-year agreement with Gross that would pay him $30.5 million over the first three years of the deal – the biggest three-year payout ever to an offensive lineman.
Update by Jaxon:
Here's the current list of franchised players by Windy City Gridiron:
FS Oshiomogho Atogwe (St. Louis Rams)
LB - Karlos Dansby (Arizona Cardinals)
LB - Terrell Suggs (Baltimore Ravens)
QB - Matt Cassel (New England Patriots)
RB - Brandon Jacobs (New York Giants)
P - Michael Koenen (Atlanta Falcons)
K - Shayne Graham (Cincinnati Bengals)
WR - Antonio Bryant (Tampa Bay Bucs)
RB - Darren Sproles (San Diego Chargers)
Update 1:45 pm
Gross confirmed the his new contract is done
"We're done, I want to confirm that," said Gross. "I'm ecstatic to be part of the Panthers."
it looks like Peppers has also been tagged.
The Panthers have placed the franchise tag on Julius Peppers, according to agent Carl Carey.
I'm sure there are other places that have confirmed it but they are the ones that I've had up this morning.
Update 3:35 pm
The Observer provides more information about the franchise tag on Peppers.
[Marty] Hurney said the Panthers placed a non-exclusive franchise tag on Peppers, which gives him the right to seek contract offers from another team.As a result, Peppers can bring the Panthers an offer sheet and the Panthers would have the right to either match the offer and keep Peppers under a multi-year deal, or receive two first-round picks as compensation from the other team.
I never thought about that scenario but we could match any offer by another team. Of course Peppers wouldn't have to sign it, and it would definately be a distraction for th team, but still interesting.
Hurney had this to say about the franchise rules:
"The franchise tag is the franchise tag," he said. "With it, go those rules."
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I can see why they didn't get this done last year
The front load prevents the chance of getting cut later due to the increasing salary
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by Jaxon on Feb 19, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
good deal
Sometimes people try to figure out the value of a player based on little numbers here and there, but when a guy plays at his level, and will continue to do so for several more years, there is actually very little risk. I like the deal if it goes through.
Now we franchise Peppers and wait for him to turn into the kind of diva that will make T.O. jealous over the amount of whining he’s going to do. Either way, Pep gets traded by the end of next week, and I’m glad about it.
by usana_gaines on Feb 19, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Peppers is going to need to come up some other choices
There is no way Peppers is going to traded to any team in the NFC South. As for Dallas, they do not even have a 1st round pick due to the Williams trade with Detroit. And if he thinks that the Patriots are interested, they can’t even afford to pay Wilfork with all the money they have tied up in quarterbacks and Moss. I heard that Kansas City called earlier in the week, inquiring about Pepp. I wouldn’t mind having their 1st round pick + Glen Dorsey for Peppers. I know you guys might think that idea is a little far-fetched, but they are switching to a 3-4 and the man is not big enough to play nose tackle and not quick enough for the outside end position. That kind of leaves KC ia a predicament. What you guys think?
-B
by bhwells29 on Feb 19, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Link?
Kansas City called earlier in the week
Do you remember where you read that?
by LittleKing on Feb 19, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KC's phone call was refused by the front office in regards to Pepp
It was reported on Serious radio on Monday.
by bhwells29 on Feb 19, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Peppers is going to need to come up with some other choices
Sorry guys, I was posting these comments while in a hurry!
by bhwells29 on Feb 19, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't let the door hityou on the way out
I hope he ends up on the SI cover, the Madden cover and every other “curse” that is out there.
He has been my favorite Panther since he come on board, but this situation has been handled wrong from the start.
by panthersnbraves on Feb 19, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Handled wrong
I hope you mean by him and not the team.
I totally agree if that’s what you meant…
by UtesFan89 on Feb 19, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Handled wrong
yes, by Peppers and his agent.
Although I think Panthers should have gotten something done last year.
by panthersnbraves on Feb 19, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Inside The Panthers...
everyone there seems to be very down on Gross.
Why?
by UtesFan89 on Feb 19, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
O-line
Due to the horrendous luck on injuries, the O-line has had continuity issues, resulting in a lot of false starts at the beginning of the year.
by panthersnbraves on Feb 19, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's done...
Deal signed. Time to franchise Peppers’ sorry ass.
by UtesFan89 on Feb 19, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other news...
Titans franchise Bo Scaife (TE).
Seahawks franchise Leroy Hill (LB).
rumor: Derek Anderson trade to Tampa for a 3rd rounder?
Texans franchise Dunta Robinson (CB).
Raiders close to extension with Aso… if it fails, he’ll be franchised.
Colts agree to contract with Kelvin Hayden (CB).
Raiders shopping DE Derrick Burgess?
by UtesFan89 on Feb 19, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Derek Anderson
While I know you said rumor, I was wondering do you have a link?
by LittleKing on Feb 19, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly at Bucem.com
Just visited their site and see it here.
by LittleKing on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking...
Peppers to the Yankees.
by the bomb dot com on Feb 19, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What teams might be interested in Peppers?
It still seems like Philly would be an ideal team to go after Peppers. No way Dallas has the pieces to make a move for Pep. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dan Snyder and the Redskins end up making a run at Pep though.
by Swollenstein on Feb 19, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We could get our 1st rounder back from Philly
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by Jaxon on Feb 19, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BHWells has a point
I really don’t know how well Dorsey did last year, but I’d take him and a 1st rounder. I also don’t know how big his contract is. When you watch highlights of Peppers, he is absolutely one of the most talented players I have ever seen. Then I remind myself that those plays on the highlight reel happen once every four games.
But if we get some draft picks and no players for Peppers, I could see us going after Derrick Burgess and/or Haynesworth. Today has been a good day.
by usana_gaines on Feb 19, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders re-sign Nnamdi
The Raiders signed Nnamdi Asomugha to a three-year deal worth a minimum of $45 million, reports Adam Schefter
by usana_gaines on Feb 19, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Peppers
Woooooooooo. I love Peppers to death but I needed him to be locked down. I really wish that someone takes him so we don’t have to pay so much money for him but also we could have another Jordan Gross scenario here.
by GMallory on Feb 19, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the blog GMallory
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Feb 19, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
I check this occassionally. I was in the chat during the playoff game during Ari. I am a huge Peppers fan (jersey and bobblehead) so I am really opinionated in letting him walk all over us. But thank you for welcoming me.
by GMallory on Feb 20, 2009 7:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and your profile pic
I believe is of pep.
by LittleKing on Feb 20, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pep's skills
I have to be honest, I think if Pep really loved it in Carolina and wanted to stay, he still wouldn’t be worth the money. That’s a lot of money. He’s really about 5 sacks a season and a TD away from that kind of money.
by usana_gaines on Feb 19, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I read
over at Charlotte.com that if pep gets his $17 mil for a 1 year franchise that that $ is not guaranteed, so if he tears his knee up during training camp he can get a minimum salary for attending camp, anyone know about this?
by ClaytonFire on Feb 19, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, if we could get two 1st rounders
that would be great. What I’m wondering though is if we can accept less than that. The Vikings ponied up a 1st and 3rd.
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by Jaxon on Feb 19, 2009 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We can accept less.
If someone signs him and we let him leave, it’s 2 first-rounders.
If we trade him though (even if he signs an offer sheet), we can trade him for whatever the 2 teams agree to.
by UtesFan89 on Feb 19, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually the Vikings ponied up not one, but two third rounders.
Personally though, I’d be more than happy with a pick in the upper-middle position of the first round. Anything more than that is extra, but I would love the chance to grab one of those DE’s out of college.
"Once again the trowsers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Feb 19, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carolina should call up Buffalo's GM
And see if they would be up for trading both Schobel and their 1st round pick for Peppers. Would that be fair? I think so.
by ChipperTeixeira89 on Feb 20, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd take that. Schobel is good
He could slide right in Pep’s spot and then we add another 1st round talent. In that scenario I bet the Panthers end up smelling like roses.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Feb 20, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have this feeling
that Panther Nation will be pleased with the outcome of this. With our recent early round draft success, I think getting under and upgrading the defense will be the best thing for us right now.
by LittleKing on Feb 21, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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