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Marty Hurney, 2003 Draft

Marty Hurney – 2003 Draft

This is another in a multi-part series where I’m trying to make the case that Marty Hurney should remain as the Panthers GM. And, it’s also a post where I’m trying to figure out in my own head “Should Marty Hurney stay as the Panthers’ GM??” I think he should, but I don’t know what I know until I write about it (and then read everyone’s comments).
In any case, I’m continuing with the drafts. 2003 is up now…

2003 Panthers NFL Draft
Pick One – OT Jordan Gross, Utah… It’s a weird but true fact that the Minnesota Vikings let the clock run out on their #7 choice for the draft. Why? I think they were trying to pull a trade, and although they ended up with DT Kevin Williams, both Jacksonville and then the Panthers ran ahead of them to the podium and respectively selected QB Byron Leftwich and OT Jordan Gross (look it up, it’s true)… I think we’ll all agree that Jordan is an All-Pro at right tackle, and at left tackle he’s still pretty darn good… Bad news for us and Jordan that he broke his right ankle this season… He has been a stud up until now… I want to share a quote I found from Jake Delhomme, following the Jordan Gross injury:
    “We visited (Monday) for a while. In typical Jordan fashion, he apologized for getting (injured)”
    The fact is, so many teams whiff on their top ten picks, and it kills their franchises for years to come. Marty Hurney has been outstanding in his round one choices. Jordan Gross was a smart, smart pick. He suits up, shows up, and plays hard and makes plays.

Pick Two (traded down) – OC Bruce Nelson, Iowa… What I remember about Bruce Nelson is that he looked very promising, and then got injured. And then he looked very promising again, and then got injured. And then, well, repeat again.
    That’s no fault of either Nelson’s or Hurney’s. We needed another offensive lineman, and Nelson was good value. That said, we missed out on WR Anquan Boldin, DE Osi Umenyiora, and LB Lance Briggs. Hindsight is 20/20, and honestly I wouldn’t have chosen any of those guys. I would’ve chosen, at the time of the draft I thought this, TE Jason Witten.
    It’s another reminder that, if you’re building a team, you have to take the best player available, regardless of (relatively) positional needs.
    Hurney did his best to buffer our OL. Nelson was a solid choice, and the injuries can’t be foreseen. That said: Choose the best player on the board!!

Remaining Draft Picks:
TE Mike Seidman, CB Ricky Manning, S Colin Branch, DE Kindal Moorehead, WR Walter Young, FB Casey Moore.
    Do you remember that Ricky Manning pick vs. Philadelphia that got us to the Super Bowl? Well, if you don’t, I’ll relate that Manning made an unbelievably athletic play that picked off a pass, and got us to the Super Bowl. That alone was worth the third round pick we took on him. Later, Hurney would trade him, for, I think, another third round pick… S Colin Branch at times looked good, but he was another player that succumbed to injuries… And, TE Mike Seidman was a “make-up” for not picking Jason Witten in round two (Witten would’ve been our TE for 10 years). Seidman fell to injuries too… DE Kindal Moorehead was serviceable for a few years, and Young and Moore were smart picks in the 7th, even though they didn’t pan out. (You do the best that you can in the 7th round).


2003 Marty Hurney Draft Grade: C+

    Two years in a row, Hurney chose wisely in the 1st round. (Peppers, then Jordan Gross)… That said, Hurney didn’t provide the team with additional depth in the following rounds… Injuries were our undoing, and that’s no fault of Hurney’s… Still, I would have liked to have seen Jason Witten or another quality player in round two.

Other players who we might have had: LB Bradie James, DT Aubrayo Franklin, C Dan Koppen, OT Tony Pashos, WR Arnaz Battle, S Yeremiah Bell, and about 200 other guys who, unlike those listed, didn’t pan out.
    I thought at the time that LB Bradie James and C Dan Koppen were no-brainers, and I wish our draft would’ve gone: 1. OT Jordan Gross, 2. TE Jason Witten, 3. LB Bradie James, 4. C Dan Koppen… That’s what I would’ve done at the time. And I mean that: At the time, those were my choices.
    But then we wouldn’t have had Ricky Manning. And we might not have made the Super Bowl. It’s really easy to sit here at my desk and re-order the world (and that’s what I’ll continue to do). Fact is: Marty Hurney in 2003 was 2-0 for first round picks, and he later got killed by injuries in this draft, and he also found Ricky Manning.
‘Nuff said.
 
     

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I remember..

For one year… (well, more like, one game)… the Panthers had their own Manning to talk about!

Just wondering, do you know what round Battle went in? I’ve always liked him and despite his consistently marginal stats year after year, I still do. He might have amounted to something in a Carolina uniform across from Steve Smith.

For a guy that calls himself Negative Man, you’re doing some great not-so-negative draft reviews, in depth but not quite a novella (that meant as a compliment by the way) :)

Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 8, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Arnaz Battle was a 6th round pick, 197th overall.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Dec 8, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks James.

I think he has had a pretty decent career for a late pick.

Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 8, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice series so far NM

I wait in anticipation for the next one

I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com

by Jaxon on Dec 8, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Panthers didn't trade Manning.

They chose not to match an offer sheet he got from the Bears as an RFA, which got us his initial value, a third.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good move

Especially the way his career has taken a downturn.

by Flowing Willow on Dec 9, 2009 5:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's in the UFL now.

Can anyone verify that?

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like he is in the UFL...

According to his Wikipedia page, he’s a CB for the Florida Tuskers in the UFL

If Wikipedia said it, it must be true, so I guess he is really in the UFL.

by bwsmith25 on Dec 9, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tuskers won every game I seen...

And I think every game they played… Then came up short in the UFL’s…. uh…….. SuperBowl? :(

I wanna see the Tuskers play the Buc’s! haha (I’d bet on Tuskers).

Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 9, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

both of those are funny, though I find it sad that we view the UFL as a league of crap versus a talent exhibition.

Some guys take time to develop and then one day they figure it out and boom. I’m sure there will be a gem or two develop in the UFL.

Not to mention, I just love watching football. They have some pretty good games.

Some talent sits untouched… Such as Antonio Pittman. He sits in free agency while there are a ton of teams in the NFL that could use him. Any ideas why no one has picked him up? Detroit could use him… Cleveland could use him… Green Bay could use a RB with talent… Washington could definitely use him… Behind a half decent line I believe the guy has multiple 1000+ yd seasons in him and he’s without a home.

Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 10, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pittman's not on a team because he's not good.

He was awful two years in a row in StL, a team looking for a backup if I’ve ever seen one.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Dec 13, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

Thanks for the laugh.

Helpful reminder for James at seasons end: 2nd Rnd CSR Fan Draft Pick.

by D-Ranged1 on Dec 13, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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