Breaking Down Panthers Red Zone Defense
Tampa Bay moved the ball seemingly at will for much of Sunday's game at Carolina. The Bucs rolled up 469 yards of offense, including 315 passing, 22 first downs and 13 plays of 15 yards or more.
Yet Tampa scored only 6 points. That's because Carolina's defense was clutch and opportunistic. The Panthers picked off five Josh Freeman passes and stuffed 10 of 14 third-down attempts, as well as 1 of 2 fourth-down attempts. The Bucs had the ball at the Panthers 20 or closer six times. but the Panthers prevented Tampa touchdowns each time.
Here is an inside look at the key play that stalled each of those six drives, and allowed the Panthers to win despite scoring just 16 points:
Situation: Third-and-1, ball on the Carolina 3. The Panthers led 10-0 with 14:20 to play in the second quarter.
Formations: Tampa lined up with one tailback and a fullback right, a tight end left, an H-back left and a receiver wide right. Carolina used four linemen with five other defenders in the box and a corner playing 5 yards off the receiver.
What happened: The H-back went in motion right and set behind the right tackle. The fullback, Chris Pressley, took the handoff and ran up the middle for no gain.
How it happened: Defensive end Julius Peppers fought off a block and tackled Pressley at the line of scrimmage.
The result: Tampa faced a fourth down and opted for a field goal, drawing within 10-3.
Situation: First-and-10, Carolina 20. 10-3 Panthers. 11:20 to play in second.
Formations: Tampa lined up in the shotgun with four receivers, two on each side, and a tight end left. Carolina used four linemen with two other defenders in the box and four defenders each a few yards off the receivers.
What happened: Tampa was rolling. The Bucs had picked off a Matt Moore pass and set up their offense at the Carolina 44. Two plays later Freeman connected with receiver Antonio Bryant for 20 yards, setting up this play. Freeman threw complete to Bryant for 3 yards. But Bucs tackle Jeremiah Trueblood hit corner Chris Gamble in the back after the whistle, drawing a 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty.
How it happened: Freeman pump faked left and threw a quick screen right towards Bryant, standing at the 20. Left defensive end Everette Brown read the play. As soon as Freeman threw to Bryant, Brown sprinted towards the receiver. He arrived in time to make a solo tackle on Bryant at the 17. Gamble had arrived to help with the tackle, but slowed up as the whistle sounded. Then Trueblood hit him from behind, knocking him onto the ground and drawing the flag.
The result: Tampa moved back to the 32, facing a second-and-22 after the penalty. The Bucs failed to pick up a first down and settled for another field goal, moving within 10-6.
Situation: First-and-10, Carolina 16. 10-6 Carolina. 4:12 to play in second.
Formations: Tampa lined up in I-formation with two receivers right and one receiver in the left slot. Carolina used a 4-3 with one corner in press coverage on the receiver in the left slot, and two other corners playing off the line.
What happened: Freeman had just moved the Bucs 64 yards in six plays to get back inside the red zone. But on this play Peppers and defensive end Tyler Brayton sacked Freeman for a 4-yard loss.
How it happened: Freeman dropped back and held the ball for a couple seconds. Peppers wore out the left tackle and hit Freeman, and Brayton finished him off at the 20 to complete the coverage sack.
The result: The Bucs faced a second-and-14. Cadillac Williams ran for 2 yards and Freeman missed an open Bryant in the end zone on third down, forcing Tampa to settle for another field goal attempt. This time Connor Barth missed, from 36 yards out.
Situation: First-and-goal, Carolina 4. 10-6 Carolina. 12:39 to play in third.
Formations: Tampa lined up in I-formation with two tight ends left and a receiver in the right slot. Carolina used six linemen with one corner in press coverage on the receiver and four other defenders in the box.
What happened: The Bucs had taken the second half kickoff and moved 68 yards in four plays, setting up this play. Linebacker Jon Beason intercepted a Freeman pass at the goal line and returned it 18 yards.
How it happened: Freeman faked a handoff to the tailback and had plenty of time to throw. Beason spied Freeman and hid behind the defensive line. Freeman threw over the middle for Bryant, who was double-covered in the end zone. Beason drifted backward and leaped to corral Freeman's pass at the goal line.
The result: The Bucs missed an opportunity to take the lead or at least attempt a chip shot field goal that would have draw them within 1 point.
Situation: First-and-10, Carolina 20. 13-6 Carolina. 4:25 to play in third.
Formations: Tampa lined up in shotgun with four receivers in the slots -- two on each side -- and one back. Carolina used a 4-3 with two corners in press coverage on the outside receivers.
What happened: Gamble had fumbled a Tampa punt, which the Bucs recovered to set up this play. Beason again picked off Freeman, this time returning the interception 18 yards to the Panthers 21.
How it happened: Freeman forced a deep slant for Bryant over the middle. Gamble had good coverage on Bryant and Beason was standing near the goal line in front of Bryant, in a deep zone. Yet Freeman threw the ball anyway and Beason picked it off.
The result: The Bucs blew another chance to chip into the Panthers lead.
Situation: Fourth-and-goal, Carolina 3. 13-6 Carolina. 10 minutes to play in fourth.
Formations: Tampa used shotgun, with two receivers on each side and one back. Carolina used four linemen with four other defenders in the box, two corners in press coverage on the outside receivers and a safety assigned to double-team the outside receiver to the left (Bryant).
What happened: Tampa had moved 80 yards in 14 plays, but the drive bogged down inside the 10. The Bucs passed up a field goal attempt and elected to go for the tie. But safety Chris Harris picked off Freeman in the end zone for a touchback.
How it happened: Bryant went in motion and set in the left slot. Two defenders followed him. The Panthers rushed four and one defender shadowed the back flaring left out of the backfield. Freeman had lots of time, but defensive tackle Damione Lewis eventually got up off the ground and pressured Freeman. That forced Freeman to throw the ball. He elected to throw for receiver Maurice Stovall, whom Harris was guarding, and Harris made the interception.
The result: For the sixth straight series in which Tampa had moved at least to the Carolina 20, the Bucs failed to score a touchdown. They still trailed by a touchdown. Carolina promptly drove inside the Bucs 20 and John Kasay kicked a field goal a few minutes later to give the Panthers a two-score lead.
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Another well selected write up Ryan
Freeman did make some bad decisions it would appear, but still the defense deserves big credit for having a great day
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Great stuff Ryan
But I am worried about this still “suspect” secondary when you can give up that many yards passing. And while Marshall should take his share of the blame, Gamble was definitely off too though his pic was probably the best imo.
That was stated as their bend but don't break philosophy..
Let Freeman pass down field comfortably, tighten down and wreck him in the red zone.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
But I don't think that can work against teams like NE, Indy and NO
Yes the defense has greatly improved as a whole since Meeks was hired, even through all the injuries he has dealt with. However I don’t see explosive offenses with veteran quarterbacks (those 3 in particular) struggling against secondary who was just ripped apart by a young quarterback who has about a handful of starts. I want to be optimistic (like JtA is every Mon. morning) about our chances in the final four weeks of the season, but some corners on this team need to start stepping it up. Right now, I would feel more comfortable if Fox thought Munnerlyn on Moss would be the best matchup for the Panthers because right now I think it is.
by SmithnCompany on Dec 7, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I feel ya...
I agree that it wont work against the likes of them, so I hope (and expect) we have a different game plan for dealing with them. I hope they send Harris in on Brady a few times to jar his head loose. Let the Hitman unload on him.
That’s tough… I think I’d put Marshall on Moss..
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
And Marshall's still five inches shorter.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions
So if we match every player on their team..
With a player of equal or greater height on our team, will we win?
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
Yeah, Munnerlyn matches up really well...
Outside of the fact that he gives up seven inches to Moss.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions
I'd put Gamble on Moss
simple because he matches up size wise. I wouldn’t be totally opposed to Munnerlynn, because although he is significantly smaller, he is chippy and aggressive, a counteractive to Moss’s size. Moss also doesn’t seem to fight for the ball, Munnerlynn will.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 9, 2009 6:03 AM EST up reply actions
So you have more in Gamble/Marshall than I do?
WOW is all I can say right now.
by SmithnCompany on Dec 9, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Against the Patriots...
Great Breakdown, Ryan. Thanks.
It’ll be interesting to see how Beason plays next week. The Pats run the ball about 12 times a game, and that tells me that Beason will be in coverage a lot of the time. Also, the Pats don’t use their tight end that much. They use Wes Welker and the other small guy, Edelman, over the middle. Beason will be responsible for taking their heads off.
(Not that I hope that their heads actually “come off,” just that they get a good pop and have to hear footsteps the rest of the game.)
Drop Beason back a little to watch over the middle. Double the free safety (either one, Martin or Godfrey) over Randy Moss. If Sam Aiken or the Pat’s RB’s beat us, then so be it.
Also, it’s got to be all-nickel back all-the-time this week. The Captain needs to be on the field in place of a LB full-time.
— Negative Man
Yeah
We’re going to have to keep a guy deep, we can’t let Moss free deep. Welker will catch a few short, but we need to seal the middle up, it was free in this last game. That package where Wesley comes in at linebacker could be useful.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 8, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
One hopes that the FS is on his game.
Based on history (and that means more than just one game), the guy to do that is Martin.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
I think that should be a no brainer
But again, we’re talking about John Fox here….
by SmithnCompany on Dec 9, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Edelman's actually fallen out of favor since an arm injury several weeks ago.
And if this is probably as good a week as ever to use the Wesley package as a base pretty extensively. Keep speed and coverage ability on the field, but there’s enough size and tackling ability that they can’t audible and run all over us.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:25 AM EST up reply actions
I always notice...
that our corners play verrrry soft against the opposing WRs. Is that part of the scheme? It seems like our defense has more success when we jam the receivers at the line, throwing off the timing. I suppose I don’t mind the ‘bend, don’t break’ philosophy – but how are receivers consistently open over the middle of the field in the 15-25yrd range?
Yes, absolutely part of the scheme.
Then again, the soft zone isn’t anything new. 3rd-and-long far too often leads to a long+1 completion where the receiver’s five yards free of any defender.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
When if our pass d-fence going to start feeling the love ?
So our pass defense and really our whole defense is pretty great considering what we have lost this season. R. Meeks has done a great job and is easily one of the best or top defensive coordinators in the NFL. Should Matt Moore lead the Panthers to a couple of more wins we will get to see more of Meeks and company but it seems more than likely that Bill Cowher is going to be our head coach next season. Cowher went to NC State, has a daughter that is a freshman at Wofford College, and lastly lives in Raleigh and has Cowher has been gearing up for a return to the sidelines in 2010 as reported from several media outlets including CBS sports on more than on occasion. Cowher is a head coach not a freaking TV analyst he belongs on the sidelines barking orders and leading the troops.
Plus to keep Peppers happy we would change to a 3-4 Defensive Scheme and with Peppers, Beason, T. Davis, and Conner/Johnson/Diggs we have the LB’s to pull it off.
We have the one of the best pass defenses in the league and nobody is paying attention I guess that is what we get for being 5-7 but the bucs are what now 1-12 and all everyone can talk about is how good Josh Freeman is going to be, yeah 5 int’s I would keep talking about him, lol.
Go Panthers.
by Holty_Panthers_Fan on Dec 8, 2009 9:35 AM EST reply actions
I'd love to see a Cowher ran Panthers...
But I can’t find anything beyond articles speculating his return, in which the Texans and Bears also come into play. How is he more than likely going to be our HC? I hope you’re right (though I’d at least like to see Fox’s contract run its course first out of respect for our most winning coach) but right now it seems speculation at best.
I’m not too sure about a 3-4 defense. It seems like adding another LB would be great being we will be somewhat “stacked” at that position next year but we aren’t doing too great against the run (and we’re just getting comfortable with Meek’s system), I’m not sure we should take on a new scheme so quickly that is, generally, less effective against the run. We might have the backer corps to pull it off, but do we have any players capable of being true nose tackles? If we’re having trouble stopping the run with two tackles and two ends, reducing that to one tackle might hurt a little, even with an extra linebacker. On top of that, Meeks system prefers smaller, quicker players whereas a 3-4 typically requires larger players. Now, if Meeks could develop a 3-4 that he was comfortable with, that might be something interesting to see!
I agree, we’re 5th in terms of passing TD’s allowed (Behind Colts, Broncos, Bills, and Jets) and the Bills just give up rushing touchdowns to everyone, so they can’t really be included. Only the Colts, Broncos, and Jets have less passing and rushing touchdowns. They’re a combined 26-10 (the Jets being 6-6). Our defense is definitely not getting any props though – I like it that way, though :) (not to say I like being 5-7 but I like being under the radar)
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
Easy to have a good pass defense...
When the other team’s usually winning and trying to run the clock out.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
So you're saying our pass defense isn't as good as it's ranking
Shutting down Arizona tells me different.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 9, 2009 6:05 AM EST up reply actions
That is one game
After getting carved up by a rookie quarterback, who I think was making just his 5th start at the time, should tell you our pass defense is not as good as the “ranking” makes it out to be.
by SmithnCompany on Dec 9, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Carolina plays down to it's competition
We were giving the Bucs a fighting chance, and Freeman did throw five picks ya know.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t get it. The NFL isn’t fantasy football, you don’t get points for yardage thrown – we let them throw freely down field and hit them hard in the end zone. That was the plan, let Freeman get comfortable and when things get tight, pick him off.
You can carve a turkey, but if you don’t cook it, are you going to eat it? They carved us but they didn’t cook us.
I think our pass D is everything the rankings suggest it is. I care about points and turn-overs, not how many times he can throw the ball and for how far.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
Great post
and great comments on the D…but when will attention turn to the offense?
Panthers 3-0 when scoring over 20 points this season
Panthers 2-7 when scoring 20 or fewer points
Last 3 games, scored 17, 6, 17 points, and two games were at home
What’s needed for the Pats game?
Luckily the Pats don't run much
Because had Tampa Bay run the ball considerably more, they’d probably had won. The Pats don’t run much, and they are close to last in total sacks. I hope that means our o-line can protect Moore better, and maybe Smitty can finally have a big day. I’m concerned about defending big pass plays, Brady could kill us with that… But minimize those and I think we could match up really well.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
I would agree but there had to be something there that stopped Tampa from running. They weren’t behind by any large deficit and they controlled the time of possession, so I really don’t understand why they put the game in Freeman’s hands as they did. I just assume that I missed something vital from a coaching stand point.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
Well Freeman played REALLY well... until he got in the redzone
Had they only ran every time they made it there… those 4 INTs probably would have been 28 points.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
I decided to go back and look at the few runs they did attempt in the red zone to see what they netted..
Inside the 20…
Cadillac – 4 rushes, 7 yards, 1.75yd/c avg.
Ward – 2 rushes, 9 yards, 4.5yd/c avg.
Pressley - 1 rush, 0 yards, 0yd/c avg.
Freeman – 1 rush, 2 yards, 2yd/c avg.
Combined: 8 rushes, 18 yards, 2.25yd/c avg.
They really didn’t even attempt enough runs to establish a rushing red zone presence but the ones they did attempt didn’t go far, especially compared to their overall averages for the day (5.4, 6.4, 0, & 10 respectively).
Ward was the only one of the four to break off a 3+ yard carry in the red zone (his two red zone carries resulted in 7 and 3 yards).
Really, I have no idea what to make of it. I would typically say that if they kept running, one of them was bound to break one off and make it into the end zone but at the same time I’d probably say that with all of those passing attempts at least one would make the distance – and none of them did.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
I should also add...
That Ward got the first red zone carry of the day for Tampa, which was the run that resulted in 7 yards.
All runs in the red zone after that point resulted in a 1.5yd average.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
Then again...
It’s tough to have big runs in the RZ. With a maximum of 20 yards to go, your YPC is going to be limited by default if you’ve got any kind of explosive ability in the run game at all.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 9, 2009 4:28 AM EST up reply actions
That's true..
But they never even reached 10 yards, they only broke five yards once. Testing the 20 yard limit would have been a blessing for them.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
























