Bucs vs. Panthers Game Day Open Thread
by Jaxon on Dec 6, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers, Dec 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST
So here we are Panther fans...game time yet again. It spite of the 4-7 dead end record the Panthers are sporting I find myslef a little excited. Panthers perennial back-up QB Matt Moore gets his first start since 2007 against a 1-10 Bucs team that is playing better of late even if it hasn't generated any wins.
The Panthers are battling a number of injuries too...walking wounded everywhere.
Let's just get on with it...this in now an Open Thread!
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It’s sad we’re to the point now that a 1-7 Buc’s team has me kind of nervous. It’s gonna be a good one though. GO PANTHERS
Huge for Moore imo
But kind of makes me nervous with what kind of gameplan Davidson has drawn up for this one.
by SmithnCompany on Dec 6, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Probably...
1- hand ball off and hope for the best
2- throw ball to Smith and hope for the best
3- punt
It’ll be interesting to see if Kenny Moore gets any targets, being the 3rd WR today and all
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Inactives for this game
Buccaneers: WR Michael Clayton, CB Aqib Talib, OL James Lee, DT Michael Bennett, DT Roy Miller, WR Terrence Nunn, OL Shawn Murphy, QB Rudy Carpenter
Panthers: QB Jake Delhomme, RB DeAngelo Williams, WR Dwayne Jarrett, DE Charles Johnson, RB Tony Fiammetta, OL Duke Robinson, CB Captain Munnerlyn, DT Derek Landri
So DeAngelos out???
This will be interesting. Moore and Stewart starting. Will he be splitting time with Goodson? Haven’t heard much about him lately.
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Goodson & Sutton are both active
I wonder if we see both of them getting a few touches.
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Goodson and Sutton will be backing him up apparently.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gameday greetings folks..
just got back from church; threw in an extra prayer for Moore and the Panthers…(playing the religion card this week.) Got the wings on the grill & Yuenglings on ice, ready to make the transition into gameday mode.
Have a good one folks.
GO PANTHERS!!
I've been waiting for this game
All season long. Time to see what our future holds at QB. Moore, Free Agent, or draft pick. We’ll get a taste of Moore today, folks!
looking forward to seeing what Moore has
bummed that D-Will can’t go today (losing huge player on my fantasy team) but I look forward to seeing what our future at QB holds
Ah, more sucking up to Drew Brees, even though his great statistical game on Monday night had nothing to do with his QB skills.
I still don't buy this whole 'Brees is the NFL's best QB' thing being pitched right now.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
me either
i mean, he’s good … don’t get me wrong, but I don’t see him as the end-all best QB in the league — that’s still peyton manning IMO
Why not?
I’ve thought he was one of the top few since last year
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"The best" changes every year
Over the last 2 years, Breez has outperformed Manning… Next year maybe it’s somebody else
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I dunno
I think you give Peyton Manning the Saints offense and they’re still undefeated, you give Brees the Colts offense and I don’t think they’re as good.
As far as I’m concerned there’s Manning then a big gap to everyone else. He transcends the league.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Top few, yeah... but not #1.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have evidence sir?
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Sure
Manning is 1st in the NFL in yards in 2009, Brees is 5th
Manning is completing over 70% of his passes in 2009, Brees is 68.4% not a big difference, but a difference.
Manning was also more accurate in 2008, and threw less INTs.
In 2007 Manning torched Brees in all areas.
The only stat that Brees consitently has over Manning is TDs, and that’s because the Saints are forced to throw in the redzone for lack of a good goalline back; whereas the Colts use Addai to punch it in.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I mean, he’s a great QB don’t get me wrong, but if you actually watched that New England game, you saw the Patriots secondary making mistakes all over the field. Hell, at one point, one of their corners tripped up and was off balance, leaving a NO receiver wide open, and then the commentators gushed all over Brees, as if he had something to do with it. Pathetic.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I know, right
I’m looking for an iPod headphone in his ear
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me?
Or is that verizon wireless thing they have after the introductions stupid? all it does is have a hot girl tell us who is playing today. i think it’s just sponsor asskissing if you ask me
Also, something needs to change at BOA
There is no atmosphere there. I went to the reg season game last year against Zona, this year i saw them play Atlanta, but focusing on last years game against Zona. We were down most of the game, but nobody seemed to care. The topcats kept dancing, and they serve no purpose, and everytime they held a Vic card thing on the scoreboard people thought it was christmas or some shit. didnt care about the game. also, its the only stadium in pro sports where you arent allowed to take your shirt off
Yes
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Clifton Smith is having a nightmare year against the Panthers
Injured twice
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions
Yup... looked like a neck stinger on the kickoff
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Alright Moore
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Here we go... lets see what Moore can do.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions
He knows who to go to!
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Moore throws high like Jake, but only 3 feet too high, not 10 like Jake
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions
lol!
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Lets take a shot downfield.
Moore’s gotten his feet wet, lets burn Talib’s side since he’s out
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions
Sutton turned out to be a decent pick up
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+1
Of course if you ask people who saw him play in college it’s no fluke.
He was a beast knocked out of the draft due to size
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
It's tough not to be getting excited right now
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Trust me, I
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
'm pretty optimistic right now.
Lets not forget we’re playing a 1-10 team without their no.1 CB though.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, ditto
If Moore has a good game today, I see it more as a confidence booster than anything. He’ll need it for the remaining games.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
DeAngelos pretty excited out there, even though he's not playing
He’s a good guy
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i work for elon football
he looks just like our running back haha
http://www.elonphoenix.com/profile.aspx?pid=765&sid=fb&season=0910
Good playcalling helped too
Just keep running
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's almost like they've realized we have the best stable or RBs in the league.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ready to see Moore take a shot down field
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+1000
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Moore looks good.
J-Stew and Sutton are a nice tandem.
TB have no answers
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Good opening scoring drive. Relied heavily on the run, Moore hit three short passes.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
THE MAD DOG HAS ARRIVED... THAT IS ALL.......
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Yup
I still can’t believe we have him posting over here. So awesome
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
We were contacted directly by one of his representatives before he started posting
It all checks out.
He pimps his facebook group and website and we get him posting here. He wants to be more of a face in the community and be more in contact with the fanbase. This blog gets the most hits among Panthers blogs.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'd find a polite way of asking WTF?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
PICK!!!!!!!!!
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Godfrey early Christmas present
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I guess Godfrey got the start over Martin?
or was he in on a dime package or something?
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Are you watching on a feed?
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lol
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Can I say again how much I love Ron Meeks? How many times did we have a chance to intercept a pass last year and failed to do so.
Yeah, but I think the attitude he brings with him really makes a difference.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Its probably just nerves..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Jake would have overthrown that pass...
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Stewart is possessed...
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GASH GASH GASH
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Sutton looks GOOD
Geez…how many good RB’s can one team have?
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looks like
the Giants Earth Wind and Fire last year. Also, got a question for you. Can I write a featured article on Moore tomorrow?
You can put up a Fanpost anytime...
if its good one of us will elevate it to the front page
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its subjective for sure
‘good’ meaning
1- doesn’t suck
2- Is a relevant topic
3 – Uses good grammer and has correct spelling
4 – Is factually correct
5 – not boring
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Post away bw...
always looking for new contributors
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That's the British spelling of 'grammar'
Jaxon wrote it so I would understand it.
There, I covered for you buddy : )
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don't overthink it Adam
Just enjoy being part of the community, posting and talking Panthers football.
Do those and the rest takes care of itself.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Earth- J-Stew
Wind- DeAngelo Williams
Fire- Tyrell Sutton
Water- Mike Goodson
Heart- Brad Hoover
GO PLANET
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, at least its not an INT..
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Moore made a bad throw, but at least his bad throw went over everyone out of bounds
instead of in the hands of the defense
That was Moores 1st redzone throw in 2 years
A little jitters I’m sure
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Nice start all around
need the offense to roll some more
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Let's take a shot
Run a post downfield. Let’s try to hit them in the mouth and make this completely a blowout
No he didnt.
it was a tough catch for sure, but he threw it where only smith could leap to it, the Bucs guy didnt have the hops to reach it
Freeman is good.
I think he’s going to give us problems for years
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions
yeah but I don;t think he kept both feet down long enough
very close
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i don't know if they can overturn it
he looks like he doesn’t have control until after he goes out of bounds
True, we got burned with the same call in the endzone last week
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but ya know what I mean :p
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
At first I thought he didn't catch it...but I'm okay this it
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Damn Raheem Morris is young
When they cut to the sidelines I keep thinking he’s an injured player
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions
These calls are way too complicated
If it’s caught with 2 feet in, just give it too them
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I agree
The bobbling thing is stupid in my mind because it’s far too subjective.
I think all calls should be a black or white proposition. Control, football moves, bobbling all leave themselves open to too much interpretation.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Martin didn't start
Is he in now?
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that was on special teams
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I was searching Delhomme on twitter
Funniest post i saw: Jake Delhomme is going to have his best game of the season today! Haha and he is so far
another one
Say what you want, but Delhomme would have completed that TD pass (the overthrow to Smith)
He was right. Jake would have. IN 2003!
I agree
Jake’s done… but I think it’s wrong to mock him especially after all he’s done for this franchise
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention he’s a great human being.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
No, Barber got his hand in there
it was good D
Guys, can we please keep this positive? We get Jake sucks, but lets keep this positive about the team we have on the field NOW.
OH NOES!!!
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i actually agree with that statement
he threw it in a small window with three defenders in the area
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
The throws weren't that amazing that it's all on them
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
No offense Adam
but you never gave Delhomme that benefit of the doubt
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but he never did that great
i hold a different set of expectations when you are paid 45 million dollars and 20 is guaranteed
Never did that great?
He carried the team for a couple of seasons.
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he was never paid alot
i can see how you may think that was a bad decision and it wasnt good timing but that was a reward for everything he has done in his time him.
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Doesnt matter
The burden in your statement is on the reciever, not the QB.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
The people on NFL gametracker
are now harping on the fact that they think we’re moving to los angeles
Matt Moore FYI
Current QB rating is 28.7
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions
youd be impressed with anything other than
delhomme
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
well not really
but still did you watch the panthers when delhomme was good?
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
i did
but im a braves fan too. and i wanted glavine gone when he came back. you cant live in the past
true
but that was a different situation for me atleast because im too young to remember when glavine was good
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Searched a QB rating calculator I always use.. then plugged in his numbers
http://brucey.net/nflab/statistics/qb_rating.html
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Or you can check ESPN box scores.
They calculate it automatically
Hayden makes a nice play
wow..it is our day!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon Moore...
we need him to play better or he’ll be benched for next week when Jake can play.
Sad, but true
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions
Personally
I wouldn’t classify any of those ‘drops’ as truly catchable passes
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder if we'll see any of Goodsen
He must really be in the doghouse
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Probably concerned with his fumbling issues, considering our turnover ratio.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I hope three teams go undefeated so it blows up the BCS crap
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Because the BCS
is all about big-name schools & big-name conferences… even if they haven’t been that good in years
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its bullshit
im not going to tip my hat to a flawed system. especially when TCU and Texas played and beat 2 ranked teams each, and Cincy beat 3 ranked opponents, but the system just rewards Texas because they are Texas
Utah last year for example
went undefeated, and people just assumed Bama wasn’t pumped up for the game. Really? you have a month to prepare for a game and you aren’t going to get over the last one? Really? Yet Florida, who lost a game, unlike Utah, won the title and nobody says anything. Boise a few years ago. Didn’t get their shot, but beat OU in a BCS bowl in the best football game ever played. And a little further back, Urban Meyer’s Utes kicked the shit out of PIttsburgh, but nobody remembers that
boise st
boise st is undefeated again, but it doesn’t matter. imagine if the panthers go undefeated next year, but get voted out the championship game.
Come on Panthers!!
Lets drive it down their throat…
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Marshall was way out of position there
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions
Jeez, we are almost getting to him.
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I know
He’s got quick feet.
He was regarded as a ‘prospect QB’ and ‘not NFL ready’. If that’s true, he’s going to be scary
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I know, he seems to be the real deal..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
They were hidden Adam
Lets keep the open thread on the game, or at least sports in general
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Antonio Bryant is my new most hated Buc player
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SACK!!
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He's playing pretty well...
potential replacement for Nail when Davis is back?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Um, im gonna have to see a larger sample size..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
That was loud.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, I always laugh when I hear Stylez White's name
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Awesome series of events for my fantasy team!
Yes! I started the Panther’s defense today. The sack, plus the missed FG is good for business.
Dont forget the INT
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I was listing the awesome things that JUST happened, but...
….If i’m listing past and FUTURE too, How about a Julius Peppers pick 6?! Shoot, maybe two of them….before halftime.
Works for me!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
How about 6 before the end of the game?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Too many short passes
Lets take a couple of 15+ shots
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions
O-line is making a strong case for Jake's mistakes
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+1
Losing Gross was massive
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
true
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To review: Two good drives when we relied heavily on the running game, couple ones that went nowhere when we relied on Moore.
Surprise surprise...
Same thing happens with Delhomme at QB…
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oh comeon
delhomme makes truly awful passes. only one real AWFUL pass for moore, which was the overthrow in end zone to smith
K, we get it.
You hate Delhomme.
Get over it.
I’m not comparing the 2. I’m just saying the same thing happens with Delhomme at QB.
We need to run the ball more than we are, and pass less than we are.
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Because if he was all that...
he would’ve been playing over Delhomme as of late.
I get it… Fox likes Delhomme.
He also seriously thinks Delhomme gives us the best shot to win, which tells us volumes about Moore.
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Easy. Freeman is a rookie, and is making just his third start I believe, and has over 150 yards already against a high ranked pass defense.
Moore is a third year vet making his fourth start, and has only 60 passing yards against a terrible defense lacking their best corner.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
As we go into halftime, food for thought
Flacco, Freeman, Roethlisberger…
Tall QBs seem to be getting it done in the NFL. Tony Pike out of Cinncinnati is 6’6", do you think he’ll be the next solid tall QB?
Would you like to see him as a Panther?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions
I think your on to something there...
These tall QB’s have a definite vision advantage and need not worry about putting extra air under a throw to get it thru the line of scrimmage.among.
Like longtime longtime Phila 76ers GM Jimmy Lyman used to say: In pro sports height is a huge advantage and is something that you just can’t teach to a player.
Profound words from a wise man. :-)
I also think they can throw further- purely empirical.
Like a catapult, more height means more of a fulcrum and greater distance. One thing it seems Flacco, Freeman and Roethisberger have is common is their ability to heave it deep without looking like it’s tough.
Compare that to Tom Brady who needs one solid step up before he can heave it
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
ok now its halftime
so i assume i can bring an offtopic discussion to the table. anyway, some of the porn stars i like:
Gianna Michaels, Sara Jay, Jayden James, Cody Lane, Carmella Bing, Shyla Stylez, Tanner Mayes.
Who do you like?
well out of that list, I prefer Gianna
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me, or:
Delhomme showed no touch on his deep passes this season.
Moore has the touch on his deep passes, but has no zip on his short throws. Jake could set his feet and deliver those bullets on the quick hitches. Thus far I’m seeing no zip on the passes to Moore’s checkdown routes.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions
No, its not you.. that seems to be accurate..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
No idea...
I haven’t seen anything. But it seems to fit, also based on the videos that showed Moore earlier this week on this blog.
Moore seems to be constantly moving in the pocket, I’d assume it affects his shorter passes
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He needs to throw away more too.
Those 10-15 yard backpedals followed by sacks are drive killers
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he looks like he is playing Madden out there, lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like the Pats
but I love that old school ‘hiking Patriot’ logo.
I think they should update that instead of their current logo.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions
Before the Panthers existed i was a Patriots fan because
When I was a little kid, a business partner of my father’s who was from Boston gave me an old red Patriots sweatshirt with that logo. I still rock that sweatshirt sometimes. But not today.
Today it’s the Panthers WR #89 grey hoodie! Go Panthers!
For the second half:
Lets run the ball more.
Stewart’s YPC is higher than Moore’s YPA.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions
I LOLD
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Me too
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Based on his performance thus far I wouldn't count on it.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think
we give AJ Feeley a shot?
Or maybe go sign Hunter Cantwell a couple weeks down the road?
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Hey, anything can happen
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm very intrigued by Cantwell.
I dont like the idea of starting Feeley, just because he’s a bandaid- not a long term solution
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
FYI, Cantwell is 6'5"
See my discussion about tall QBs above.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I understand he’s probably not “NFL-ready” in most senses, but he’s worth a look after the season is actually over.
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Flacco and Freeman were’nt supposed to be NFL ready either though.
He looked damn impressive in the preseason.
Why not give him a baptism by fire.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Worth a shot, yeah
but to judge his future NFL career based solely on this season would be a mistake
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Absolutely
We have Cantwell on a 3 year deal. I’d love to see what he can do in a real NFL game.
I think we all know there’s a snowball’s chance in hell we see him though
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I think they’re going to have to be the answer today
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
NO CATCH!!
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I'm getting that Panther feeling in my gut that we're not going to win this one
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Cmon ST
Channel some of your Bobcats optimism!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, thats what youre here for James, lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Even a general needs an army. LOL
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's easier to be optimistic about the Bobcats
Because I’m not use to the winning
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fair enough
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
True, it was a nervewracking game last night.
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, Freeman has a gun with lots accuracy
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Yeah, but im saying overall
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I'm really impressed.
Given they have no recievers of note it is scary to think of their offense if they get a Dez Bryant or Golden Tate in the draft
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
spoke too soon! ROFL
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
PICK!!
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BEAST!!!
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lol, give him praise and he jacks up
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hyperbole much?
Singletary is a god fearing man who enjoys having his pants down as motivation
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Whenever Beason picks off a ball I'm going to say he 'Counter sued it'
In honor of his recent legal events
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions
Did they ever figure anything out with that?
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It appears Beast is countersuing the guy.
But It’ll all be quiet until it goes to court in January.
Beason isn’t settling it and fighting it, so I guess his lawyers think he has a chance of winning the case/
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
No no no no, stay away from the strip clubs lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
correction
Red zone defense is outstanding today.
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, he changed his name to Stylez
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
it was Greg originally I believe
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not down with that whole world
But isn’t there a pro-wrestler named Stylez?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, I saw someone with the last name of Iceman..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
World B. Free
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Try that throw Jake
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Nice recovery by Moore
He needs to make his reads faster. He will never have that much time in the pocket to do that with regularity.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions
Ok....can we please stop bashing Jake
He sucks … we know … we ’re all glad Moore is in.
Can we just leave it at that?
lol, Are you related?
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At the same time can we not annoint every completion as 'amazing'
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
that doesn't sound very optimistc
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Moore
is having an alright game against a 1-10 team missing it’s best CB
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This
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Real average
Yeah he’s playing okay, but comparing him to 2009 Jake is like saying you’re glad you have AIDS because you don’t have Ebola.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Yikes.
I guess, on the plus side… at least AIDS won’t kill you in 2 weeks
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Exactly
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wait...
are you saying Delhomme starting today would’ve killed us all within 2 weeks?
In that case… Fox for president!
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I don't know about killing us all.
But I think half the fanbase would have had heart attacks
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
next week against the patriots will be a much bigger test
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Food for thought...
As a longtime former Eagles fan I’ve seen alot of AJ Feeley and am not a big Feeley fan, but I gotta say he has had uncanny success vs the Belichik & the Patriots in his career.
is anyone else
sick of this miller light commercial? ive only seen it a total of 4 times but it drives me crazy
That field goals was friggin' AMAZING!!! Try that kick Jake!
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So here's what I'm thinking.
We all love Jake as a person, and he’s under contract for a while
Lets have him bring one of his thoughrobreds up from LA and ride it around the sideline with Sir Purr holding him around the waist.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions
I'll be happy if we don't make the playoffs
provided we win more than ATL
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ill take that.
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll be happy if they just don’t make it. All the bragging they did over the offseason was nauseating.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Redman hasn't turned it over..
but is having a terrible game nonetheless…
oops scratch that…theres a pick 6 for Sheldon Brown
Bud Light and Miller Light are terrible beers, that is all..
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ill take my chances with piss water, lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
ha, Rogue beats Sam Adams everyday
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
+1000
Dead Guy is amazing.
I’ll take a Bell’s Two Hearted any day.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Try the Rogue Barleywine or Double Dead Guy
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Not a big barleywine guy.
I like big hoppy IPAs… so I’ll def check out the double dead guy.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I love hoppy IPAs too... get with me later I can get ya list of some good ones
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
what?
Miller Lt is very good beer…don’t tell me some dark import is better…its like drinking bread
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lol, well Rogue isnt imported..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
You guys got Yuengling down there..
real solid reasonably priced Lager from Americas oldest Brewery.
Other than that Stella is my favorite but way more pricey
Yes, Yuengling light is my cheap beer of choice.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much agreed on that one here.
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Dude i know you'll prolly laugh, but...
A few REALLY cheap beers that have a bite and go great with food:
PBR
High Life
Ice House
lol, had all those bears in my younger days
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I just drink it on my broker days
I prefer Guiness, Red Stripe, and Micro Brews but i’m too cheap to spring for that ALL the time
Well I figure if im gonna get smashed, I might as well drink the good stuff, lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
well get you some Barleywine, it will make you thnk differently with 11.5% alcohol content lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I had a couple of pints of Flying Monkey High Gravity one night
I didn’t know it was 12% or something. I knew better though after the second pint.
lol, gotta check that one out
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
i've been drinking Michelob Orignal Lager for two weeks because
I went in a store in Stuart, Va and they had it on sale for 5.99 a twelve pack! I bought three cases.
lol, ole Michelob.. I like their Amber Bock
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Nice coverage by CJ Wilson
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions
Chris Gamble returning punts....
DO NOT WANT
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions
BEASON WITH THE COUNTER SUE
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions
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reply fail..
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Wait... didn't they just punt the ball?
How’d they get the ball back?
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Beason INT
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
but how’d they get the ball back after the punt?
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Josh Freeman is having about as much luck as Gordon Freeman today...
And that is my nerd reference for the day.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions
where is his crowbar when he needs it?
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Is Beason wearing camouflage?
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the drop zone coverage is working well today
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the stars will align and brees will march the ball down the field in ridiculous manner and they’ll win, yet again
+1
10 points is nothing the Saints cant overcome
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Who are we as Panthers fans to criticize that?
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
thats the difference between teams. Saints down by 10, easy come back. Panthers down by 10, game over.
I was referring to the fact that we’ve done the same thing numerous times, as early as last year.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Jon Beason is playing to beat the charge, lol
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Kind of like a pass that's dropped?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm worried that Brown won't pan out
He really does seem too undersized
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Undersized.
tell Elvis Dumervil that being undersized doesn’t pan out.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
but they’ve moved to a 3-4 and put him in at LB.
If we move to a 3-4, then Beason is undersized
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Beason didn't get credit in the draft because he was 'undersized'
Steve Smith too.
I just think there are exceptions to the rule. I also think Brown has been downright impressive when he’s been on the field.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
I know
but if you put Beason in a 3-4, then you need a couple of big guys in the middle to keep blockers off of him.
Hard with a 3-4, when there’s only 1 big guy there
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No way
that would = loss, and Fox isn’t going to give up his job that easily.
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I’d say his stat line thus far is a good indication.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
13/19
95 yards, one pick. not overly awful when u consider the drops and the fact that we arent letting him throw downfield
Against a 1-10 team lacking it’s best CB it is awful.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Jake didn't take shots either.
But he threw the ball where the recievers could get YAC.
I dont see that from Moore. The recievers are stopped dead in their tracks when they get a reception.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
jake threw it where
it could get intercepted. moore’s only pick was on a drop. how is it awful? almost 70 percent passing and we havent let him throw it deep?
drop=throwing into triple coverage?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
"Jake threw it where it could get intercepted"
He tried to lead the WRs. Sure, he overshot a ton, but if they catch it, they have running room and the ability to break a big one
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But he's Matt Moore!
He’s like the 2nd coming of Tom Brady!
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Because we're not a pass first team.
We’ve got like 1 WR.
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Lets hold em to a FG
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oakland is beating the steelers
god i hate the steelers, they have soo many bandwagon fans (and it seems like they all live in Raleigh)
They live all over, sadly
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Red zone, yes.
The other 80 yards, not so much
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the Buccaneers of all teams are outgaining us by about 120 yards. Not so good.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think thats how the cover 2 works, bend but don't break
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Corners not so much
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Thats what I'm thinking
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
MR. CSR!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions
How many fantasy points have the Panthers D been worth?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
pick
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
INT
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Um... it's the Panthers
they’re supposed to run the ball
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no touchback
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Nice pass Moore!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions
woooooooooooooooooo deep ball!!!!
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Haven't seen that in a looooooong time!
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Except he made that throw
Against Arizona.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but he's Delhomme
so it obviously doesn’t count.
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o shut up
how many picks did joke throw. how much is he getting paid. we have good reason to hate joke
feel that he should no longer be the starter, yes...
but hate him…no
he did too much for me in the past to hate him, sorry
Maybe you should shut up too
good, Moore had 1 good pass.
Congrats.
He’s not the next coming of Brady because of it.
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We can disagree without telling people to 'shut up'
For some perspective:
Moore has 1 INT in 20 attempts.
If he was given Jake’s number of attempts extrapolated from this game alone he would have 17 INTs on the season.
Jake had18
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Sure
But calling for them to abandon the run to do it is just stupid
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Man, I would have loved to see a bubble screen to Smith on on of those 3 plays in the redzone
Surely, Smith has the ability to beat his man one on one if we could get him the ball in position to try and make a play.
yeah, I havent seen a bubble screen to Smith in a few games
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
apparently all the FF scores in the country are screwed up on our front.
I just lost 80 yards on Jonathan Stewart and a bunch of points… wtf.
almost another pick..
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damn middle of the field seems to be open all the time
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Curious...
hasn’t that been true since the ’Zona game in the playoffs last year (at least)
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The Charles Godfrey effect?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
That Godfrey is terrible I think
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
methinks you might be correct
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Thats how a Cover 2 works
very open to the TE threat…thus why TB got Winslow
No good
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seems to be a bad homecoming for Barth
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No
He’s probably fumbling his water bottle on the sideline and the coaches thought it best to keep him there
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Connor Barth looks like Napoleon Dynamite.
It’s cold out there, his bad kicking is probably due to lack of chap stick
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions
of course, i can't see any other logical explanation lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
It was really nice.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
yawn
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Feel a little better about Brown yet?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
No. I want to see more than almost a sack in every few games
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thats called pressure
rushing the qb is not always about a sack
ok then I'd like to see more than one QB pressure every few games
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Brown is 4th in the NFL in sacks among rookie DL, he's 1st in the NFL in FF by ALL rookies.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Gerald Henderson effect
He can show his ability if he gets more PT
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
lol, I was thinking the same thing.. maybe LB and Fox are buds??
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
He was right there again.
He’s still a rookie, I’m impressed
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Morris killed the Bucs chances with bad timeout management
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions
WHAT THE **** ARE YOU GUYS DOING!
lol @ Foxy
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions
His lips were crazy easy to read on the sidelines yelling at the ref.
The announcers just said “John Fox is clearly not happy with the call”
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a Christmas miracle.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to laugh for a long time if NO loses
Particularly because I live in DC
Winslows getting me some fantasy points, and all in a losing effort :)
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Dolphins just went ahead of Pats with a minute left
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Wow
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Why cant more of the big dogs fall in the NFC?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Freeman better learn how to slide, or his NFL career is going to be short taking hits like that..
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Maybe the Bucs will hire Joe Giradi too.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
they could hire someone ... hell TB has a baseball team too
the kid seriously needs to learn how to hit the dirt and play for another down
Nah, Joe Maddon lol
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
What about John Madden?
Shoot, I’d pay good money to watch John Madden baseball slide.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
No, Joe Maddon manager of the Tampa Bay Rays
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I know...
I was just kidding.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
ahhh... duhh!!! lol... well that would be some funny shit.. Madden's sliding skills would be more awkward than Mark Sanchez's
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Washinigtons up by a TD with 1:50 left
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on the saints that is
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PICK!!
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That's game folks.
Moore was meh.
Defense were outstanding.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions
It is safe to say...
the defense DOMINATED today.
Wow… Freeman sure looked like a rookie in this one.
Yeah... i need to talk up the opposing QB more often!
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
maybe meh...
But it isnt like they gave him a ton of attempts, but that is the way it should be. I think he looked good. The main things is that he limited his mistakes to just 1 INT.
Jake would only have 6 INTS if he had a season of games where he attempted as many passes as Moore did today.
Jake throws picks when he’s asked to throw more than 30 times.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
no
he throws picks b/c he compiles mistakes. he makes one mistake, we fall behind and we have to pass to stay in it, and he sucks. its not a hard thing to figure out
Like I said earlier. You extrapolate Moore’s numbers for today and he has 17 picks on the year.
Jake has 18.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
We fall behind...
that’s on the D, not on Delhomme.
Unless it’s a pick-6… which Delhomme hasn’t really thrown that many
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I wouldn't go that far.
Jake has forced us to play short field alot in 2009
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
True
but it’d definitely help if, you know… we RAN THE BALL when Delhomme was the QB.
30 passes with either Moore or Delhomme behind center makes no sense at all
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WHAT??!?!?!
He hit Smitty deep and only only had 1 INT… Jake can’t do either of those.
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Except Jake has done both.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Has means squat... It's abotu what he can do now
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Moore has done it once against a bad D
and you’re willing to give him the job for good?
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He threw 20 passes
for some reason, Delhomme has been throwing 30+ every week
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So potentially the Pats, Saints, Steelers, Falcons all lose
But the Panthers win!
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Ah, gritty game folks.. see ya next week
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Call it now:
Who starts vs. New England?
I bet Jake does.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions
I gotta say Matt by default
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by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 6, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Moore!
We can overcome 1 INT, but not 3 or 4… and the deep threat is soooo valuable
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Nice win folks...
I Hope Matt does…I liked what I saw today and like ST said that deep threat is Imp to keep the defense honest and I simply don’t think Jake can complete a deep pass anymore
I hope Moore..
but I agree probably Jake…but I gotta throw this out there…
I’m not a big Feeley fan but the guy has had real good career success vs Beliciek & the Pats.
If your trying to win just one game do you go with it…I know probably no…but thinking outside the box…. its a thought.
look ... we all know how loyal foxy is to jake
Moore didn’t play well enough to make fox say “hmmm … maybe Moore does give us the best chance to win”
He did nothing, good or bad.
The D held and that was it.
If we just have Delhomme handing the ball off every week, he’d be as good
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No, but Jake has been bad enough to lose it outright
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Based solely
on horrible playcalling by the OC that was much more conservative today
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You shouldn't turn the ball over even with bad playcalling
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No
but if he isn’t dropping back to pass when we should be running, he doesn’t throw a pick. Doesn’t make up for the interceptions, no. But you don’t put Delhomme in that situation to begin with
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That's what I'm doing
Fox will start Jake if his finger is better.
New England and Tampa Bay without Talib are night and day.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
if matt can play decent with just jonathan stewart
put dwill and jstew in as well
I want Moore to start next week...
but I believe that Fox will look back at this game and say that he just wasn’t good enough to take Jake’s job from him, provided Jake’s finger is healed enough for him to play
exactly my point
That stat line against the 25th ranked pass D in the league without their #1 CB doesn’t convince me I need to buy a #3 jersey yet.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
We can't keep relying on Jake because of what's he's done in the past
He’s really bad this year. Until Moore shows he’s worse, he should get the start. He might not be the future QB here… But for the rest of this season, he looks to be the safer option.
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I agree
but I’m not going to anoint him anything more than the best option for next week right now.
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I agree with you, I think he NEEDS to get the start.
But I don’t think he played well enough to justify him starting over Jake to Foxy.
In the end, that’s all that matters.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 6, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
it’s what Fox thinks that really counts … we can sit here and debate over who we want and why, but in the end it comes down to “who gives us the best chance to win”
Fox may be wrong about his belief in Jake, but we have to go with it because he makes the decisions
Well, how fast can you recover from a broken finger?
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My thoughts & my opinion
Defense played lights in red zone
Moore played serviceable for what he was asked to do- only around 20 passes with few mistakes- let us not forget it was his first time starting a full game since 2007 & he has had limited time with the first team.
Special teams still an issue
We will have a rough time over the next few games regardless of who starts at QB!
Dont forget Jake threw THREE picks against this 25th ranked D
Moore ability to throw the deep ball will keep defenses honest…while other teams forces Jake to throw the ball and make mistakes by stacking 8 man in the box
My question...
why the hell can’t we gameplan to only have Delhomme throw 20 passes?
Why is he out there launching 30+ on the run-first team (with D-Will, no less?)… and then Moore throwing only 20 even with D-Will out?
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See... is that on Fox or the OC?
Because whoever it is, they need to be fired.
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Jake throws 30+ when we are trying to come from behind
When you are leading the whole game and causing INTs there is no need to pass much
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Notice though...
with Moore back there, w primarily ran for the first couple of possessions.
With Delhomme, we run on the 1st one, then switch to pass-first after that.
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If you're only behind by 1 score in the 1st or whatever...
you don’t have to abandon your gameplan, as the Panthers seem to do.
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Sometimes you do
especially if you are running out of time
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Jake has thrown much more in the 4th than the 1st
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I guarantee you, if you look at Jake's attempts per quarter
The majority are all in the 4th… due to us trying to come back from behind
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Would you rather have Freeman's day or Moore's?
Moore- 14/20, 161 YDS, 1 INT
Freeman- 23/44, 321 YDS, 5 INT
Moore's day
but for the future, I’d much rather have Freeman
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If Rosario had caught the pass that was tipped and then intercepted...
(which he should have done) then Moore’s line is 15/20, 169 yds, and 0 INT’s = good day.
Moore undrafted 2007, Freeman 17th pick in 2009.
Moore 2 1/2 years in the system and Freeman 1st year.
Freeman has started more games this year.
We still may need need to draft a QB in 2010, but I would like to see more Moore.
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What an amazing day. Tampa is a severely underrated team, in my opinion, being they often play their opponents tough but come up short in the end (hence the record). 1-10 is absolutely no indication of the talent they possess.
With that said – Carolina played awesome. Moore played exceptionally well for his first start in two seasons (The interception was definitely out of his control) and exactly how we needed him to. Tyrell Sutton was highly impressive for what is, essentially, a 4th, now 3rd, string back averaging 6+ yds per carry on 6 carries. I would have liked to see more of him but if Stewart can carry the load, how do you not keep handing off to him?
Our defense was superb in every way I could have asked for. It’s easy to dismiss their performance due to Tampa’s offense, but it’s worth noting that only the Giants have held them to less points (that being a shut out in week 3).
Was I the only one ecstatic to see Smith bring down that 66 yard bomb from Moore? That’s exactly what the Panthers have been lacking this year. That should be his longest reception of the season now.
Double Trouble; we've got the best running backs in the NFL that never see the ball!
And I hope we're 8-7
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Moore
Guy’s Please, Give the young man time to get the cob-webs out and get a feel for the game. It’s been two years. If he get to play a few more games he will do much better and he did better than Jake today. The Buc’s had pressure on him all day. Look how many times Stewart was stopped in the backfield. Moore did fine enough to finish out the year.
Dare I say....
A Cowboy win vs the Giants and a Mon. night Raven win vs the Pack would bring us to within 2 games of the wildcard….I think, maybe. ….and who knows with our easy pansy-ass remaining schedule ;-)
oh yeah...Pats, Giants, Vikings, Saints....a cake walk
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