Carolina Panthers vs. Minnesota Vikings - My (Chris Harris') Thoughts
by ChrisHarris on Dec 21, 2009 12:35 PM EST
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Hey! What's goin' on, guys! It feels a heckuva lot better to be here talking to with you after a win than a loss!
Last night's game was SO much fun to play in. The guys were excited, playing with pride, and playing with purpose. And as a result of all that energy, we did a great job on offense, defense and special teams.
Matt Moore and his offense were able to move the ball all around the field in their effort to lock down 26 points against a GREAT Vikings defense. On a few occasions, Matt was able to leave the pocket, buy himself some extra time, and scramble his way into opportunities where he was able to put together a few wonderful plays. And you can't forget Steve Smith who was on the receiving end of quite a few of those wonderful efforts. That dude is such a big time play maker!
Defensively, I was VERY impressed with the way we played. To hold Brett Favre and Co. to only seven points is just remarkable. Our key to winning the game came down to our ability to stop'em up on third downs. I think they were one for ten in those situations (or some crazy ratio like that). We simply did not allow them any opportunities to sustain many long drives.
JULIUS PEPPERS PLAYED A MONSTER GAME! He was disrupting EVERYTHING that was going down on that field! James Anderson also put together an incredible performance - he was such a spark plug. Seriously... he might have been the only one who made any tackles during the entire first quarter (HA!). Great game, man ;-)
Obviously, the turnovers we forced helped us a ton in this win. I'm proud to say I was able to contribute a couple of them, as I recovered a fumble and brought down an interception. But, as we all know, this win was a result of a team effort of epic proportions. I'm beyond proud of this unit.
You know, it's kinda bittersweet for our team - a team who, last night, put together a killer performance against a killer team like the Vikings - to not be going to playoffs this season. I know we had the capability to play the way we played last night all season long, but, for whatever reason, we just didn't. And, at this point, there's simply no reason for any of us to be crying over spilled milk. Personally, I'm gonna focus solely upon the pride I have in this team for how they showcased some serious moxy and outstanding character during last night's game.
I want all y'all have a very Merry Christmas and for Santa to be good to each and every one of you! Hopefully, last night's win will serve as a nice little bow for you wrap around what's sure to be a wonderful week of Holiday celebrations for you and your families ;-)
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the only thing better than this christmas gift is to
DESTROY ELI MANNING AND THE HATED NEW YORK GIANTS
by carolinabrave89 on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You guys did an outstanding job.....
on both sides of the ball. It was a great game to watch and wonderful Christmas present! It’s definitely bittersweet missing out on the playoffs with so much talent and heart, but hopefully this years difficulties will help make you guys that much stronger next season.
by JC_GSO on Dec 21, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great game Chris
Thanks for the post. Yes we all wish we could have dialed up that performance all season long but we will take it whenever we can. That Peterson guy can be hard to tackle huh? Great job you guys did on him for most of the night.
The INT was simply great icing on the cake. Congrats and lets bring it again against the Giants. We owe them one!
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris, you said 5 days ago you guys were going to 'Turn up the volume'
Well, that game went all the way to 11.
Amazing job!
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Dec 21, 2009 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Chris! How'd it feel to get ran over by Peterson for a TD???
I kid… I’m use to you laying people out, so I gotta take this opportunity to bust your chops a bit. Peterson is a beast! Holding him to few yards with this banged up defense is a nice accomplishment.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You'll notice, when Chris hit AP, AP went backwards!
It wasn’t until our man Chris got cleaned off that AP broke loose.
by r3 on Dec 22, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the game Chris
You know I gotta ask, how’s it feel to have picked off a future Hall of Fame QB and arguably the best QB to ever play the game?
by RV21 on Dec 21, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
...and the most-picked QB to ever play the game.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the INT, Chris!
That was two extra points for my fantasy team. I started the Panthers D over the Steelers D this weekend. And man y’all made me proud!
Panthers D scored 12. Steelers scored -3.
by dudemanhey on Dec 21, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, kept points off the board, too.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris
Very proud of the whole team. Congratulations… but let’s not get carried away…
“And as a result of all that energy, we did a great job on offense, defense and special teams.” —Chris Harris
You coulda left special teams off that list… they were bad once again. Otherwise… your defense should be especially proud of their performance, even with all the injuries. I could not believe how well the unit was able to contain Adrian Peterson. The best #28 was definately on our side last night.
by Tater596 on Dec 21, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
or is Dante Wesley always the first player downfield whenever we punt ? This guy is underappreciated, in my opinion.
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 21, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, he is
He’s the gunner; he’s supposed to be. The guy is the star of our ST. But that’s twice now that he’s gotten there before the punt, and gotten penalized for interference with the punt receiver. If we had 1 or two other guys down even close to as quickly, we’d not have allowed so many return yards.
On a related ST note, did you hear the comment that we’d not returned a kickoff or punt for a score in something like 90 games, the NFL record? Now that’s reason enough to replace Danny Crossman — what an embarrassment!
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+ on the returns
we need a better return game. Rarely do we get the ball on a short field.
by paydirt16 on Dec 21, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No surprise.
He’s the only decent special teamer we have. The rest of our units are filled with inexperienced, bottom-of-the-barrel castoffs because that’s all we could afford with a certain $18 million anchor on our cap.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way,
What happened to Rhys Lloyd? I’m not seeing enough touchbacks to warrant a spot on the 53-man roster.
Even if rest of our units are filled with “inexperienced, bottom-of-the-barrel castoffs”, I am kinda partial to Quinton Teal-he played at my hometown college.
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 21, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the coaching
We have plenty of experienced players on ST — Hoover, Rosario, Barnidge, Teal, Brown, Connor, Diggs, Fiammetta, K Moore, Taylor — all of them come down on coverage. But they don’t show any discipline on lane containment, nor do they effectively block on returns (except when it’s in the back, causing us half the distance to the goal most times.)
I cringe whenever we receive a punt, hoping that it’s long enough to allow Munnerlyn to let it go over his head, into the EZ, so we can start at the 20. Sad.
I know Josh Cribbs is a great runner, but damn, some of it is his blocking. There’s gotta be a better way to coach our guys how to set up a wall, or create a lane, or just knock some guys out of the way. Crossman can’t do it.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see Appalachian State's Armanti Edwards become the Panthers' version of Cribbs.
Maybe the Panthers can use a late round draft pick on him. He’d be a versatile threat for sure. Kick returner, Wide out, QB. I’m confident that if he was returning kicks for the Panthers it wouldn’t be long before opposing teams were having to game plan for him specifically.
by dudemanhey on Dec 21, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea.
Draft him if he’s available, and find a place for him to excel.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+10000000000000000000000000
but is that a surprise to anyone?
Draft Armanti! 2008 and 2009 Walter Payton award winner… and he can probably be had cheap!
by Tater596 on Dec 22, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're kidding, right?
What about Barnidge, Teal, Brown, Connor, Fiammetta, Moore, or Taylor makes them “experienced?”
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about them makes them "bottom-of-the-barrel castoffs"?
Our opinions differ here (now That’s something new!)
You think our STs suffer from having bums on the field, who should be replaced by great STers purchased from the money saved on paying Peppers.
I say bull — it’s not the players so much as it is the fault of the ST coach, Crossman, who doesn’t know what he’s doing, or how to teach his charges how to play their positions.
Perhaps we should put this to the group, in the form of a poll. Your call.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That can be arranged...its a good question
I’ll attach it to the next Paw Prints
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You think a blog community knows what the problem with our special teams units are?
Please. Nobody on this blog has ever been to a practice or seen Crossman work with any players. If he sucked, we wouldn’t have had top ten ST units (Dallas Morning News) in two of the last four years.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas Morning News
I wish they would edit out alot of the categories they use. They are fun to look at but they take into account stuff that has no bearing whatsoever on how good a coach is.
by R-F on Dec 22, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you can pick and choose what's important, but they can't?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
As stated elsewhere, I’d not give equal weighting to 22 categories of ST play, as Rick Gosselin does — some are just way more important than others. E.g., as I said, does anybody think EP% is as important as punt return yardage surrendered?
We ranked as high as we did (in their rankings) last year (but it was #12, not top 10, as you claimed) on the back of our 3 kickers, not our coverage units. I doubt that Mr. Crossman has much input into how Kasay or Lloyd or Baker execute their kicks — but he should have the responsibility for the return and coverage units he sends down the field with such, shall we say, inefficiency.
by bigdavis on Dec 22, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So NFL kickers can hit 50-yarders from the womb?
I find it interesting that you choose to dismiss Crossman’s work with the better parts of our ST units.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What work?
Are you asserting that it was Crossman who taught kasay how to kick FG’?
Are you asserting that it was crossman who taught Baker how to punt?
Are you asserting that it was Crossman who taught Lloyd how to boom KO’s?
And why no answer to my fact that you fudged the “TopTen” claim you made for the Dallas News?
Of course I dismiss him. He’s responsible for coverage and return alignments and techniques, and substituting for kick blocking lineups (also a failing the Panthers.) the kickers themselves owe NOTHING to him.
Let it drop — you’re out of your league in this argument you’ve kept alive. Stick to your salary cap numbers — that’s about all you offer here that nobody else knows about. Everything else is just a smokescreen to argue and belittle. Or didn’t you just call another poster “crazy” this morning?
by bigdavis on Dec 22, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so it's not from the womb.
The kickers haven’t been coached since they played Pee Wee. THAT was when they developed their ability as NFL kickers.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crossman was a safety
He never kicked anything in competition, so how can you assert that he’s contributed to the kicking technique of Kasay, Lloyd, or Baker?
And as a safety, he should be even more responsible for not being able to ingrain in his charges the subtleties of correct tackling procedures, don’t you think? Blocking, not so much: I’ll give him a pass on that, but someone else should be stepping in and handling that. Our blocking on returns is atrocious.
by bigdavis on Dec 22, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They
Aren’t trying to evaluate a ST coach when doing their rankings. This has little to do with me personally. Have you even looked at all the stats they use? I find it hard to believe that you have if you think those rankings are a good evaluation of a ST coach.
by R-F on Dec 22, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lloyd's been the best KOS in the league.
He leads the league in KOs to the end zone by a mile. It’s the fault of our coverage units that teams aren’t afraid enough to take the ball out from five or six yards deep to lead to TBs (although he’s still second in the league in TB% and very close to Koenen.)
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you getting those numbers Procton?
I’m not seeing the same ones. Per NFL.com:
- Rhys Lloyd is tied 4th in the NFL in touchbacks (19)
- Rhys Lloyd is 5th in the NFL in touchback percentage (32.2%)
- Rhys Lloyd is tied 21st for kickoffs out of bounds (0)
I’m just not seeing the same figures.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Dec 22, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Messed up a little
- Rhys Lloyd is tied 6th in the NFL in touchbacks (19)
- Rhys Lloyd is 6th in the NFL in touchback percentage (32.2%)
- Rhys Lloyd is tied 21st for kickoffs out of bounds (0)
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by James The Aussie on Dec 22, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oops. Didn't figure it had changed that much in one game.
My info was before this week’s games. But he’s currently 5th in TB%, and as for OB KOs, he’s got the 8th-highest number of KOs among guys without having one (out of 17 total.)
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And last night we squibbed it to keep it away from Harvin
Good call by Fox. And great job by the defense to consistenly defend a short field very well! Bring the pain Chris!
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 22, 2009 4:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point Flowing Willow
That probably explains the rapid drop in Lloyd’s numbers this week Procton… he was never given the opportunity to really kickoff this week.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 22, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to his Twitter...
He was very happy with the way he kicked on Sunday.
Result tonight . I kicked well. Hit all the balls I wanted. Squibs and morter kicks. Last 2 I hit great after all the change ups
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt...
he performed his job admirably.
I was referring to his drop is production regarding TB%.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Dec 22, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is
There somewhere that you used to look up KOs into the endzone (that didn’t result in touchbacks)?
by R-F on Dec 22, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Panthers.com lists it pretty regularly.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then
Can you post the stats to verify your
claim in which Lloyd “leads the league in KOs to the endzone by a mile”?
by R-F on Dec 22, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome game
I agree about the passion last night. I hope everyone can keep it up for these last games.
by panthersnbraves on Dec 21, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks . . .
Chris, the game the whole defense played was how we the fans believed you would play all season. Peppers showed up this week after a no tackle game last week. But man, you and the guys were hitting and most of all swarming to the ball. That has been missing off and on. When the team was formed, that was how Mills and company played D swarm to the ball. four or five bodies making backs and receivers regret catching or running the ball. As for Matt Moore, I am a big supporter of his. I believe now his confidence will start to remain and help him develop into a leader! Last note: Stewart reminds me of WAlter Payton by the way he punishes the men who get in his way! Thanks again for the early present!
by GeneN on Dec 21, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One of the few games I've got to watch all year.
Def worth it!
One of South Africa's only Carolina Panthers and fans.
by chinchillas sword on Dec 21, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great job last night Chris!
I especially loved how AP ran over you for that TD! J/K I couldn’t resist.
Seriously, you guys played outstanding and should be proud!
by bwsmith25 on Dec 21, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Marshall took a bad angle (his head should have been on Peterson’s right side) on the tackle and ended up knocking Harris off AP.
Will Parker
by WillParker81 on Dec 23, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 23, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great work by your Defense, Chris?
Back to back winning seasons for the Panthers under John Fox??
Could be 2010 and 2011, right?
Finish strong and carry it over to next year, Chris.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great game Chris Harris!
You’ve guys been playing at such an epic level for the whole 2nd half of the season. I’m glad that the Offense finally decided to give you some help so that you guys could pull off this victory.
2010. That’s all I’m going to say. Rag on Julius Peppers and get him to resign, grab a DT in the 2nd round, and you’ll go win ourselves a Super Bowl in 2010. Playoffs may be out of reach this time, but we’re still a championship caliber team! We’ll just have to wait another year in order to get to the playoffs again.
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Dec 21, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great pick, Chris.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 21, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dominating defense last night...
let’s keep cranking up the turnover machine vs the Giants.
by paydirt16 on Dec 21, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The BEST game the Panthers have played this year. Let’s finish it out strong!!
A victory against the Giants & Saints are sure to screw up a few teams that deserve it!!
by tarheelfan on Dec 22, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whats up guys
Dolphin fan here living in NC so I pull for the Panthers as well. I try to go to at least a couple games a year and they are always so much fun. Also, Hoover went to my high school so I gotta pull for him. Just curious as to how Chris Harris came about blogging on here. I think that is pretty sweet. Also, if Moore wins out, is he the starting quarterback next year. Anyways, that was a great win last week and surprised the heck out of a lot of people. Now youve got all the press talking about Farve falling apart late in the season. lol. Good luck the next two weeks.
by MR. MANN on Dec 22, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Now youve got all the press talking about Farve falling apart late in the season. lol"
LOL, Yes, and you got the “Childress— Farve” story out there on top of the Moss story last week. Win or lose, the Panthers defense has created a carnage of controversy for their opponents the last two weeks :-)
The defense is facing another big challenge this week. The Giants offense has been playing lights out these last two weeks.
by paydirt16 on Dec 22, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I’ve heard more than one “analyst” talking about how the patriots came up “flat” against a bad panthers team. The very next week, the Vikings “come up flat” against a bad panthers team. Wonder when they’ll realize maybe it has a little more to do with the Panthers play than the teams they play “coming out flat”.
by JC_GSO on Dec 22, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or them overlooking a bad team that hasn't legitimately been in the playoff race for a month.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the Panthers are a bad team MP?
I’m starting to think you are more of a curmudgeon than a fan. Do you really care whether the Panthers win or lose? Does losing simply give you more ammo with which to argue?
Just trying to understand where you are coming from with your comments.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Dec 22, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think they're a good team?
They were eliminated from the playoffs after 13 games, and the best they’ll do is 8-8. I love the hell out of this team, but I don’t need to pretend that a single win against a team that was more concerned about protecting its players than winning means they’re the best team in the conference.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not concerned about winning??
Here’s an excerpt from TwinCities.com:
“Now instead of being in a position to challenge the Saints (13-1) for homefield advantage in the playoffs, the Vikings (11-3) have the surging Eagles (10-4) breathing down their necks in the race for the second seed and a first-round bye.
The Vikings play at Chicago next Monday night, then come home for the season finale against the New York Giants before the playoffs begin.
“It feels like we’re 3-11,” Childress said. “Can you feel that? It’s kind of palpable for us in the locker room. That’s how we’re wired.”
You think that sounds like they didn’t care about the game, or that it wouldn’t have been important for them to beat us? Get real.
by bigdavis on Dec 23, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gave up on your "not concerned with the game" theory, huh?
Still waiting for those back-up stats you were going to come up with on the other threads, too.
by bigdavis on Dec 23, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I do think the Panthers are a good team
but they haven’t played up to their talent until lately. But yes I think they are better than 6-8.
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by Jaxon on Dec 23, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, however, this isn't college football.
Teams don’t get voted into the playoffs. Games you should have won still count as Ls if you score fewer points than the other team. INTs that weren’t the QB’s fault still are recorded to the QB’s record. 60-yard TD passes that actually only traveled six yards from the LOS still go for that many to the QB. 80-yard TDs that should have been 3-yard losses if not for a missed tackle or a trip because of bad footing still count against the defense. Things are how they are. We might not have been as good as 12-4 last year (the Cards certainly didn’t think so in January), but that’s how the record stands.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 23, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
we’re 6-8, nothing to change that, except win the next two weeks. However I do believe as a team we have the talent to achieve a much better record.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 24, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But we won't.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 24, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez dude
Lighten up, I make an innocuous statement that state’s I believe we are more talented than our record suggests, and you get all fact police on me.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 25, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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