Panthers Spike the Vikings 26-7
by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 12:22 AM EST
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A day after being eliminated from the 2009 playoffs the Panthers turned in a spirited performance to beat the NFC North division-clinching Vikings. The Panthers scored 20 4th quarter points to turn a 7-6 deficit into a comfortable and unlikely victory. The Panther heroes on the night were many but we have to start with QB Matt Moore. Moore outplayed the legend Brett Favre by throwing for 299 yards, 3 TDs with no INTs. He started with a shaky first half but then caught fire as Steve Smith ripped the Viking secondary for 157 yards on 9 receptions including 1 TD.
I nice as it was to see the offense finally break out of its funk I also enjoyed (maybe even more) seeing a dominant performance from the defense. They held the NFL's #6 offense to seven first half points and only 247 total yards. Better yet they held all-World RB Adrian Peterson to 35 yards on 12 carries. That's less than 3 yards per carry! It has become very obvious over the past couple weeks that the defense is finally grasping Ron Meeks Tampa 2 system and is now playing with confidence and emotion.
Given the Panthers are out of the playoffs and only stand at 6-8 I find myself cautious about proclaiming this a total victory so I'll let a Vikings fan from The Daily Norseman tell it like it is:
Some might call this a trap game, and some might say the Vikings got complacent after clinching an NFC North title earlier in the day. I'll call it something else: Getting crushed. Don't make excuses for this Vikings team, because they don't deserve it. I don't care that the field was in lousy condition, I don't care that the game was outdoors, and I don't care about what was happening around the division. The Vikings got killed out there.
I couldn't have said it any better. Let's honor the Panther heroes:
- QB Matt Moore 21 for 33 299 yards, 3 passing TDs, No INTs
- RB Jonathan Stewart put up 109 yards on 25 carries and a TD. He also caught 2 passes for 14 yards a TD. Stewart carried the load after DeAngelo Williams left in the first half with an ankle injury
- WR Steve Smith had 9 receptions for 157 yards and a TD and just hurt the Vikings all game. From his post-game interview it looks like we can than #22 who apparently took it upon himself to talk trash to Smitty and ended up eating his trash.
- DE Julius Peppers is showing only a single tackle and 1 sack in the NFL.com box score but he terrorized Favre all night. The announcers mentioned they think LT Bryant McKinnie got benched mid-game for repeatedly getting bulled over by Peppers. He earned his 7 figure game check tonight and I bet Brett Favre would agree.
- LB James Anderson led the team with 9 tackles and two assists and a sack. Anderson played fast and helped shut down Adrian Peterson.
- SS Chris Harris added an INT to his season total, one that ended the Vikings night
- RB Terrell Sutton only got three touches on the night, 2 rushes and 1 pass but the UDFA converted a couple key third downs and was money picking up the Viking blitz. We have a diamond in the rough here my friends.
Worth mentioning is that by gaining over a 100 yards rushing the Panthers Stewart broke the Vikings 36 game streak of not allowing a 100 yard rusher. Stewart not only showed the power he is known for but also demonstrated the quickness and cutting ability on inside runs that left Vikings defenders diving at air.
In the end this game leaves the Panthers thinking they could finish the season on a winning note and who knows, maybe even level their record at 8-8. I for one am much more hopeful about the remainder of this season...and next.
How is everyone feeling about this one?
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I really have high praise for two things in particular.
First, Matt Moore. He shook off a terrible first half and was largely excellent in the second, especially the fourth quarter. Color me somewhat optimistic about his future here.
Secondly, the defense. In particular, the run defense. It’s been horrible all year, and the defensive line has been in flux the whole time, yet they turned in a dominant performance tonight against arguably the best back in the league.
As I told my Bears friend – who incidentally enjoyed seeing Favre getting shallacked – this is what you live for when your team is having a down year. Showing up a playoff team on national TV. Color me happily stunned.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 21, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Had to vote Peppers
Very tempted to vote Moore, but with Yahoo reporting that Childress wanted to pull Favre in a one-point game due to Peppers’ domination of 3 different OTs there’s no way he loses the vote this time. Definitely earned his $1mil this week.
by old_skool on Dec 21, 2009 2:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I voted for Peppers too. I did it kind of begrudgingly because I’ve questioned his effort and concentration in the beginning of the season. But he was a beast last night. He was constantly in Favre’s face and had a couple good licks on him too.
by The Duke Dude on Dec 21, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Getting a good hit on the QB ealry makes a huge difference
it plants a seed as they start thinking about the next time they get hit.
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game
I don’t want to get carried away and say we’ve found our next long term starter, but Moore turned in a good performance today. A lot of yards after the catch helped pump his numbers, but the guy made some great reads, and showed a solid arm. Whether he admits it or not, Steve Smith is glad to have Moore throwing the ball.
AP has been pretty awful this month, and I’m not sure the exact reason. Good on the D for not letting him break out. Also, this was a great day that typifies Peppers’ season. Maybe the numbers don’t show it, but his pressure was felt all day, and Brett had to show some mobility to make throws. Brown continues to impress in the action he sees, and I think his future looks pretty bright.
Also, sweet pick, Chris!
Special teams was pretty bad again.
by the bomb dot com on Dec 21, 2009 2:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anything was wrong with AP.
He showed plenty of power on the rushing TD, breaking away from 2 tacklers. And expending the short pass from Favre for a gain of 60+ yds was pure AP.
The reason he didn’t show more was due to the defense of the Panthers, particularly our LB’s — Beason and Anderson played outstanding games.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see, good Carolina Panther Football!
I missed Smiths YAC plays, man is he exciting. Moore was good. The running game was on point. Much better team showed up for national tv. This is the Carolina Panther Football I miss seeing.
by pantherfan95323 on Dec 21, 2009 2:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
and glad to see Peppers still playing hard! Good Game!!!
Die hard Carolina Panther Fan, from sunny Southern Cali!
by pantherfan95323 on Dec 21, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Truly Inspired
That looked like a truly inspired team on both sides of the ball. Defense was all over the field making solid plays, and the offense had alot of life. Sutton’s long conversion on the screen- breaking tackles, and getting beyond the sticks- Barnidge breaking tackles and carrying defenders down the field, Stew just bowling people over, and Peppers abusing viking tackles all night, and Smitty finally getting to be the monster that he is… WHEW!!!
That was some GOOD football!
by toonman on Dec 21, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing what Smitty can do when we have someone who can get him the ball
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looked like he had fun
plus he sure did drop a lot of “F-Bombs” every time they showed him on the side-lines… he was certainly fired up!
by toonman on Dec 21, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He said a "youngster" on the Vikings kept trying to tell him who he was
So he had to set him straight. :) That’s the Smitty we’ve all been missing.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Wow! Wow!
Went to go see Avatar tonight (if you haven’t seen it, GO NOW) but had the Panthers game on DVR. I wasn’t expecting much since it’s the Favre show and we had nothing to play for. Boy was I ever wrong! It just goes to show you, when you give “The Playmaker, #89” the ball, he’ll win you the game! And I’m impressed with Moore. As long as he can keep feeding #89, I think we’ll win more games. And JStew was a beast tonight too. I think it goes without saying that the o-line stepped up and A) gave JStew some running lanes, and B) gave Moore time to throw. Defense was great, not allowing many 3rd down conversions and pressuring Favre all night.
I think from now on I’ll DVR the games, I watched the whole thing in like 30 minutes. Amazing how fast the game goes when there aren’t any commercials and you can skip 30 seconds ahead each play.
by stuff4ben on Dec 21, 2009 2:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm hyped about Avatar too
Best movie I’ve seen in awhile
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by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Now I got one more favor to ask. January 3rd is it??? When we come to town, be nice!
Oh yea, thank you!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 21, 2009 4:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Save your thanks for week 17 ;)
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by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...we'll see how much they like us then
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If they are smart
They will bench their starters so that Peppers doesn’t crush them too.
RAWR!
PEPPERS SMASH!
by Tater596 on Dec 21, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pep will injure Breez, out for the entire playoffs
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, southtunnel. Nice avatar.
I respect a man who’s not ashamed to shop in the costume section at K-Mart!
Fat, dumb, and happy. Hell, two out of three ain't bad!
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandpa – Not Screaming and Yelling Like His Passengers.
by Just 'Nother Day on Dec 21, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
I got to witness and entire team effort! The first half was a little slow. A few lil’ fun things I noticed:
-Our Makeshift O-Line had a few little blind spots but did an overall stellar job keeping the Williams’ and Allen off of Moore (for the most part) and J-Stew! A special high five to Geoff Schwartz and Mackenzy Bernadeau for doing a damn nice job filling in for Gross and Otah. Killer job! (and of course the rest of the O-Line. You are not forgotten!)
-The Entire Defense… DID NOT let one of the best backs(and one of the best offenses) take control of the game.
-Matt Moore… Dude! Quick thinking, and smart thinking! I do believe that was the highest passer rating for a Panthers QB this season. Killer job! And wow… I saw 3rd down conversions!!
-Steve Smith… Watching you being all fired up and performing as you do ALWAYS gets me going!
-The Entire Team… Guys, wow! I know we are not playoff bound. But, that game made me yell and scream for joy! You got a proud fan in me! Exceptional job all round!
On another note: I really don’t like Cris Collingsworth. He’s a total fanboy. “Ohhhhh Brett Favre! Brett Farve! He’s so smart.. Brett Favre! Perfect throw!!” I thought it was great how he shut up when Favre was picked off… Haha! (Al Micheals, you cool!)
by SwankTheTank on Dec 21, 2009 4:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good list of credits -- don't forget about Barnidge, though
He carried some baggage on that YAC effort of his! Made a nice adjustment to haul in the pass, and broke 3 tackles, then carried the last defender for about 10 yards.
This is his coming out game, just like it’s Moore’s.
Expect to see much more of him next year. I still see him as a Todd Chistiansen type of TE (8 catches his first year, then 42, then 92)
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I somehow don't see him hitting 42 this year.
And he still needs to improve his blocking to get consistent reps. We’re not going to become a four-wideout spread team in one offseason.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I consider this to be Barnidge's 1st year, equivalent to Christiansen's 8 catches...
… those 8 catches, followed by the 42 and 92, were really in Christiansen’s 3rd year with the Raiders — in 1979 and 1980, he played in 28 games, yet had not a single reception — then, when he got the hang of it, he turned into an All-Pro, and should be in the Hall of Fame.
http://www.nfl.com/players/toddchristensen/profile?id=CHR290703
IMO, Gary Barnidge has similar potential. Time will tell, but if it happens, you heard it here first.
Oh, and by the way, Barnidge now has 12 receptions this year, for an average of 20+ YPC. TC never had more than a 14.4 average YPC.
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agreed!
We’ve had a more than a few relatively quiet players really step in.. Barnidge, and Rosario too, have had a better year than the previous!
by SwankTheTank on Dec 21, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the future
so think about this…can we move forward in 2010 with Johnson/Brayton starting on one side and Brown on the other, James Anderson and Thomas Davis starting on the outside, keeping the same DTs we have right now and Matt Moore as the QB? If so, then we really only need to focus on getting the best WR available in the draft or free agency. Peppers may be gone and we can use the money on some other talent, or we can sign Pep to a long term deal. I also think we need to cut Jake.
by usana_gaines on Dec 21, 2009 5:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to think after watching that game last night
that Peppers will still leave. I still hold out hope he will sign long-term but he certainly raised his value last night.
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it all falls on peppers
if he thinks he can still get top tier money for his inconsistent performances….
regardless, we should probably try and resign him to a longterm contract
by vitzeng on Dec 21, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The real truth...
First of all congratulations on a dominating forth quarter and the victory…The guy who wrote this article seems pretty proud of his team. if I was a Carolina fan I would be pissed off that my team decides to show up and put on a championship type performance in a game that means nothing. Where were they when it counted? Why now ? Where were they three, four weeks ago when it meant something?I mean I don’t think they should just lay down and let teams walk all over them just cause there out of the playoffs but to put on a performance like tonight against a really good team is all most like a slap in the face to the fans who really support them. Are you going to tell me that this playoff team from last year is just starting to find there grove again. These guys are well coached and have talented players all over the field they should be headed for the playoffs. The vikings on the other hand are headed for the playoffs and had a golden opportunity to gain ground on the Saints for the home field advantage in the playoffs and decided not to show up tonight, but lets face it the Panthers are an elite team that decided to show up tonight with their A game…Football fans are at the mercy of these multimillionaire players who have all ready won the super bowl of life…There set for the rest of their lives…Super bowl ring or not these guys are laughing all the way to the bank…While most of us fans sit in front of our TV’s on Sunday in our modest little homes and cheer with emotion and vigor for their teams to win…The real truth is these guys show up when they want to or when they want there egos stroked…( don’t forget the final year of their contract, That’s when they seem to play there best ball.)No coach, game plan or passionate fan can make a difference in their performance because they have all ready have won it all…
by Dr Fix on Dec 21, 2009 7:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you were a Carolina fan...
you would know that our starting qb decided to have a meltdown this year. I’m not sure where all this diatribe is coming from other than you are a pissed off Vikings fan. This game was more of a preseason for 2010 for the Panthers and next year looks a little brighter !!!! Good luck with the playoffs.
I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it.
by Davejinxer on Dec 21, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
-1...His team is 11-3 and he's still not happy
makes you wonder why he watches at all.
I will respond to one thing he said though about just showing up now. We have a new DC and yes, it took about 10 games for the new scheme to sink in. But not its on!
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Mr. Viking dude...
Just know this… Cris Collingsworth is still in love with Brett Favre, so…. There ya go! Something to be happy about.
The thing I’m happy about? Oh yeah, our guys coming out on top after 60 minutes.
Rawr!
by SwankTheTank on Dec 21, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great game Panthers
And a big thank you from the who dat nation
The funny thing is just last week I was talking with a Vikes fan whokept saying we barelybeat bad teams and he mentioned ya’ll
I told him the panthers had a great defense and one of the best running games and he laughed i’ll bet he aint laughing today
Once again good job and thank you now I think you need to give Peppers the last gameof the season off for such a great perfomance lol
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 21, 2009 7:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Plenty likely Peppers will give HIMSELF the game off.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell?
I’m going to be perfectly honest with you guys, I went to bed late in the 3rd quarter. The game was 7-6, Vikings. Matt Moore was sucking, Farve was failing, both defenses was owning, pretty much everything I predicted about the game was coming true. The game was far too boring to keep my eyes open, and I fell asleep on the couch
I woke up about 5 minutes ago, did my routine, logged into Rotoworld. I only have one question: Since when can Matt Moore raise the dead?
-Revshawn
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Dec 21, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
About the same time I jokingly called him 'overrated' apparantly.
Looks like I’ve found a new ‘thing’ for gameday.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Dec 21, 2009 8:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup...just when I was about to throw in the towel on him
he started making good throws. I dogged him about not being able to throw on the run and he started hitting passes while throwing on the run.
Wow Rev you missed a great 4th quarter. I hope you taped it because you will want to watch it
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god I did. It's going to be interesting to see how Charlotte responds to this! Lol
Messiah Matt Moore.
He’s going to be the franchise QB for the nest 20 years! He’s going to heal the sick, raise the dead, disregard the Panthers debt. He’ll stop the globe from getting warm and fill your snackbowl with nuts and corn.
Cause he’s Messiah Matt Moore and he’s come to save the day! Just snap your fingers and save the Franchise fate! Lol
"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn
by Revshawn on Dec 21, 2009 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tim Tebow aint got shit on Matt Moore, LOLZ
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. Thompson
by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 21, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Until he has one bad game or an ugly pick...
Then the calls for Feeley and Cantwell will start.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eating crow...GLADLY
James, in the wednesday post, i asked when was the last time this team scored 27 points, as you predicted. I thought we had a chance to win an ugly defensive game, with field goals, 12-9. The first half looked like it was proving my thought process….
BUT MAN, this is THE BEST CROW I’VE EVER TASTED!
Defense was tight, the o’line had some pretty steady, better than expected play, and I must say the game plan was actually pretty solid, I have to admit, I never thought GUMP would look at a rolling pocket, and use Moore’s athleticism to get him away from Allen…
Moore has got some tools, and experience should start to show us more of what he’s made of.
Thanks for the crow, guys, thanks for the crow!
by toonman on Dec 21, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...I had to eat my share too
In my Fantasy Write-up for SBN I said J-Stew and D-Will would have 90 yards total and a score. Moore would throw for 200 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs. I was bearish all-around
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to know...
… I wasn’t the only one bellying up to that table!
by toonman on Dec 21, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the one stat that stuck out to me is NO TURNOVERS.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S. Thompson
by mad_dog_maddux on Dec 21, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pep!
They benched a TOP TEN TACKLE because Peppers was making him look like a training camp dummy. Not just “kept a back in to help.” Benched.
You don’t get more dominant than that.
by Jeff_L on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He ran over McKinnie on several occasions
just wow…amazing he can just run over 320 lb dudes like that
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He can set them up with that speed rush of his as well
Mckinnie is all geared up to go outside, then Pep shoves him back.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 21, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Collinsworth said...
“When he wants to, he can do anything on the football field.”
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sad that want is such a huge factor at $17 mil a year.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he really cares about the money
No one can say though.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 21, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then what does he care about?
If it was winning, he could have signed at a much lower number.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really, only Peppers, God, and maybe a few family members
know what Peppers cares about.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 22, 2009 6:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great confidence builder for Moore
it’ll be interesting to see how he does in these last two games (Fox wouldn’t dare go back to Jake at this point of the season-would he?) The silver lining to this season will be the roster depth that is being gained with so many backups filling in for injured starters. It would be nice if Moore proves he can be an NFL starter, if thats the case I think we’re only a WR and return specialist away from making a big run next season. Although everyone being mentioned is certainly worthy of the game ball, my game ball would go to the O-line in particular Schwartz as I think he/they faced the biggest individual challenge and came up big.
by paydirt16 on Dec 21, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jake won't play again.
Given we’re out of the playoffs, they’ll probably IR him. It helps the team’s bottom line through insurance payments, and it gives them a chance to put a healthy young guy on the field in practice at the very least.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man oh man oh man!
Never been more unhappy to be on vacation because I can’t rub it in to all those clowns in the office.
I haven’t been genuinley optimistic about our team’s future all season until now.
Moore got it done! I was tempted to vote for the defense but their effort is for naught if Matt and Smitty didn’t take it over in the fourth.
Hope it’s a sign of things to come!
by GuyIncognito on Dec 21, 2009 9:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Some would suggest the game should have been well in our control before the fourth.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me...
That’s useless thoughts in my view. Take a win however you get it. I agree though some people (fans?) are never satisfied. Even with a win, the win wasn’t a ‘good enough’ win. We should have won 45-7 blah blah blah.
Going 0-4 against the AFC East tanked this season…beat the Bills and Jets and we are int he hunt at 8-6.
I blog the Carolina Panthers at www.catscratchreader.com
by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At 8-6, we're the first team outside of a wild card.
And if we’re talking about revisionist history, we’re out of it a month ago without close wins against Washington and TB.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We beat a Super Bowl contender...
With an undrafted FA. The kid is progessing. Look at his production from his first start through last night.
I’ve been watching the Vikes all year and they have a real defense.
Not too many teams this year have owned them every quarter of every game. I think they’re something like 11-3 right now.
The undefeated Colts have had some fourth quarter come backs of their own.
Point blank; Moore broke that game open in the fourth and beat a very good team with authority.
I’m not griping about anything today.
by GuyIncognito on Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It should probably be noted...
that that “Super Bowl contender” cared so little about the game they wanted to pull their QB with a 7-6 lead. And the Cardinals did a pretty similar throttling of them.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
And the Cowboys beat the Saints. Childress wanted to spare his QB for the playoffs but ultimately didn’t.
And they got whipped with a HOF QB under center.
They didn’t forget how to play and I only noted that they sat one starter because he got embarrassed by Peppers.
So I don’t see your point. We’re 2-1 with Moore under center and he’s getting better.
Perhaps you would have preferred another loss to further bolster San Fran’s pick.
by GuyIncognito on Dec 21, 2009 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Given that we don't get it either way...
It doesn’t really matter. Unless you think we’ll be directly competing with the 49ers for league supremacy the next few years. Also, given that a worse record will also improve our picks in subsequent rounds, yeah, it wouldn’t really be the worst thing to lose now that we can’t make the playoffs.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We should try to win now...
To evaluate our quarterback. It’s better to turn him loose to prove we can win with him than to lose for the draft, which is speculation at best.
The San Fran pick is merely a matter of pride.
by GuyIncognito on Dec 21, 2009 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think any team ever tries not to win.
I’m just saying there’s no need to. And I think moves like letting Duke Robinson start over Vincent or Moore/Martin over Muhammad or Johnson over Brayton, etc. could make a lot of sense at this point.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow
Brett was getting cracked left and right. And it didn’t appear our offense was doing anything. He has a qb that can run around and get away from peppers. Trust me they all cared very much about winning this game.
all i want for christmas is 10-6
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so they thought Jackson was the better QB. Got it. That makes perfect sense.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah mo mo it does
we could move the ball on offense. They thought. Their d was going to keep us down to 6 points. And didn’t want brett gettiing a broke butt since peppers kept knocking him on it. So he’s like let’s go with a guy that can run around keep the chains moving eat up clock and let the d earn their money….now if childress would have tought we were gonna put up 20 points in the 4th then he would have left favre in no questions asked. But seeing how the d was containg us through 3qtrs he thought jackson could be effective with the gameplan….sorry buddy u have to give the panthers credit….who’s your team by the way? The bucs? Falcons?
can't wait till...
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Panthers.
i just don’t need to pretend we’re worldbeaters because we won a “huge” game that didn’t really matter for either team.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always the wet blanket, aren't you?
It DID matter to the Vikes! Don’t you think they’d have liked to have wrapped up the #2 seed, which now is still in doubt?
Even the writers in Minnesota are giving the Panthers more credit for an ass-whooping than you are. It’s only a game “that didn’t really matter” to you because Peppers played such a dominant game, and you can’t stand that, and because Moore played better than Delhomme has all year, and you certainly can’t stand that! Better change your sig again; it aligns your "analysis’ with Gantt, who also discredited Matt Moore a little early.
Nobody here’s said we’re “worldbeaters” — what we are trying to do is celebrate a rare victory, which was equally contributed to by all but our special teams. I can’t recall when we had a “who gets the game ball” poll! Join in the fun and raise a glass to toast the guys — it takes a lot of heart to show the effort they did, the day after they’re eliminated from the playoffs.
Good coaching, good game planning, good execution, good enthusiasm for the game!
by bigdavis on Dec 21, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't Gantt's analysis.
It was a member of the Boston press. And they were absolutely right. If Moore had played better last night, that game would have been decided by halftime.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And if Moore had started after week 2
The Panthers would be Play-off bound.
by dudemanhey on Dec 22, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HOORAY UNVERIFIABLE SPECULATION!!!
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 22, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speculation? You are talking about this quote, right
And they were absolutely right. If Moore had played better last night, that game would have been decided by halftime
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by dudemanhey on Dec 22, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WTG, Ebenezer
Bah, humbug!
Ho, ho, ho — Merry Christmas.
(whoops…I forgot…sorry)
by bigdavis on Dec 23, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
world beaters?
No we are just proud of our team for beating one of the projected superbowl conteders when they wanted to win that game. Proud of our second teamers that stepped up.. our D and ron meeks… PEPPERS! I mean think about it…look at how the d played. When our players are now used to the scheme look at what it can do. So I’m expecting big things from our d next year. I’m proud of jstew for being the first 100 yard rusher in over 2 seasons against them. I’m happy to see that we can get steve smith the ball. I’m proud of peppers and the rest of our d line bringing havoc to brett favre and getting one of the top tackles benched. Peppers just bitched that fat bastard all night. But at the ebd of the day its not about the vikings its about progress and I as a fan am happy for my team
can't wait till...
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations Panthers!
That was a good old fashioned arse whooping if I’ve ever seen one! The swellings down and there is definitely a mark! I just hope this game wakes my boys up before another one and done. Good luck on the rest of your season!
by KC612 on Dec 21, 2009 9:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We REALLY need Moore to play well the rest of the season
If our future QB is not on our roster, then next year we need to find a starting QB and receiver… That will be tough to do! However, if Moore can continue to play like he did in the 4th quarter, and solidify his spot as this team’s QB, then only focusing on finding a receiver should be a much easier task. I’m still not sold on Moore yet… but I have my fingers crossed that yesterday’s 4th was a sign of things to come.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
if shaking the hand of one of your football idols after defeating him isn’t a confidence booster as a QB i don’t know what is. Good job Moore
by EyeSack on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Farve totally blew hi
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And Farve totally blew him off
Didn’t give him the time of day
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
yup, and jstew went straight to favre just to shake his hand and Favre looked at him like ‘this is all your fault’
by EyeSack on Dec 21, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scooby Doo in his head
(“Brett Favre” is held down by a triumphant Peppers, and Matt Moore walks over, pulls up on his nose, and pulls off the Brett Favre mask revealing Ryan Leaf)
“I’d have home field advantage throughout the playoffs if it weren’t for you meddling Panthers.”
by Tater596 on Dec 21, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Click!
It took three quarters but it looks like it finally may have clicked on for Matt Moore. All he needs is more reps and he is going to be Budwieser approved. I agree with many more we may have a QB for next year and maybe for many “Moore” years to come. Sure would make the draft better for us.
by Cwilly1 on Dec 21, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
booo!
-1 for stupid budweiser commercial reference (I hate that guy) and -1 for bad pun!
+10 for the rest of what you said. I agree, and I think if Matt does well for the rest of the season, it’ll be an interesting training camp next year.
by stuff4ben on Dec 21, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As well as Moore and the offense played in the 4th quarter
I’m more excited about the defense for 2010. We will be loaded up front and with Thomas Davis back I think we will have a Top 10 D next year.
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by Jaxon on Dec 21, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don't jinx it!
Just kidding (kind of) I am seriously pumped next year, A Super Bowl is a legitimate possibility. Our explosive run game will be back, our defense will be hungry, and the FO has shown a nice ability of identifying needs and addressing them. The run game, pass D, run D, this offseason the passing game will be the object of focus, and I believe it will be fixed.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 21, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Last I heard, people want to run the front office out of town.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me
I’m happy with what we got.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 22, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m not sure what the philosophies regarding the substitutions for DTs are, but next year with everyone healthy we should have some pretty significant depth on the D-line. I think we need a shutdown CB though.
by The Duke Dude on Dec 21, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It might surprise you, then...
To know that we’ve been one of the more stingy teams against WRs all year. It has something to do with the fact that we’ve been trailing and getting ran on relatively often, but we lead the league in TDs allowed to wideouts (3, with NYJ second at 5) and 7th in yards allowed at 1,786, behind only NYJ, BUF, WAS, NYG, DEN, and PHI.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like always...
We’ll probably be good if we stay healthy.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love being optimistic about my panthersthe
And I gave matt the game ball…but he needs to improve. If we have a qb that can make all the throws we will be unstopable. And matt missed too many throws for me to label him the future. I’m telling myself that he’s got the jitters or whatever bcuz he settles down later in games. But watchn brett farvruh hit recievers in the chest while being dragged down blows my mind. If we had a qb that could do that then there’s no way to contain the panthers. Matt moore can throw the ball deep and keep it in the recievers vicinity. He can move those feet an escape pressure. And showed the ability to make some throws on the run. And he throws the ball hard..that’s a lot more than we can say for jake at this point in his career. So with all that said I want to see how matt is going to perform the rest of the season. If it starts taking less time for him to shake those jitters off then I’m willing to move ahead with the best wr available in the draft for our first pick. I want some pretty passes in the first half. But big ups to the whole team. I was sooo impressed with the o line. Peppers and the rest of d was amazing. Jstew for cutting them deep with 109 tough yards. And 9 imean friggin 9 receptions for 157 yards. This amazes me since jake has been cryin that teams take him out of the game. But wowzer what could have been if we would have got all phases of the game to come together half way through the season.
all i want for christmas is 10-6
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did Smitty say he wants to be the #2 receiver?
Michaels was saying something like that. Don’t know if it was because he’s frustrated about not getting more balls, or he just wants help, or he doesn’t want to carry the load anymore. But would mean he’d take #2 pay? Hes far from #2 now, but as he gets older, it’d be awesome to keep him around long term as a #2.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 21, 2009 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Again, southtunnel, you need to read up on the rules and regulations...
89.
Nuff said.
by Tater596 on Dec 21, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Random Thoughts
1. Was Moore’s performance good enough? I know he is not Peyton, Brett, Sean, or Tom, but those come once every few years. What will it take to say he’s “good enough”?
2. Peppers was the one “having fun out there.” How much of the whole defensive performance was based on having a good DT?
3. Time for Delhomme and Kasay to get their gold watches?
4. Agree with precious post about injuries.
5. Still want a new OC and a new ST coach.
by panthersnbraves on Dec 21, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Definately a new ST coach
I am slowly starting to give Davidson the benefit of the doubt, because he didnt have a serviceable QB at the helm.
by Tater596 on Dec 21, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so what?
He can see what works and what doesn’t work. He can’t adjust or gameplan. And I hear where ur comin from. If we had a great qb that could deliver the ball then his plan would have worked. But we don’t have that qb. So he kept calling the plays like we do have that qb and that resulted in a lot of picks and 3 and outs and games lost (n.o. inprticular)…why no slants over the middle when the eagles constantly sent the house? He’s fired
can't wait till...
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why couldn't the OL block at all when Philly blitzed?
Surely they knew they’d be blitzing a ton as they have for years.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 21, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they sent the house
Seriously a screen or some short slants would have stopped it…at least slowed it down but nooope
can't wait till...
by Steve785 on Dec 21, 2009 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
one more dump pass...
and matt moore – 300 yds…. oh well…. haha
by vitzeng on Dec 21, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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