Panthers vs. Patriots Game Day Open Thread
by Jaxon on Dec 13, 2009 12:00 PM EST
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Carolina Panthers at New England Patriots, Dec 13, 2009 1:00 PM EST
Warning: If you are reading this it is less than one hour until kick off. Run! Hurry! Get your favorite beverage, some football grub, your lucky hat. Put on that Panther jersey and get ready for some classic cold weather football. It's sunny at the moment but still freezing in Foxboro.
Both teams need to guard against missed tackles and dropped passes. Me? I'll be guarding against soggy shoes as it rainy here (but a comfortable 65 degrees).
I can't help myself...This now an Open Thread!
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Todays Panther inactives
Jake Delhomme QB Inactive QB Matt Moore will start vs. the Patriots. He’s not a viable fantasy option.
C.J. Wilson CB Inactive
Mike Goodson RB Inactive
Tony Fiammetta FB Inactive
Derek Landri DT Inactive
Duke Robinson G Inactive
Kenny Moore WR Inactive
Tyler Brayton DE Inactive
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Anyone see the NFL Network...
…last night, around midnight? They showed the last quarter of the Pats Panthers SB from 04. Despite the result it was pretty motivating to see positive, accurate passing, a QB with time in the pocket – but mobile when he had to be, big players stepping up to make big plays (Smitty, Moose, Proehl), strong running……..great stuff!
Few dodgy ref calls and those missed 2 pt conversions……ah, what might have been.
GO PANTHERS!!
Wife, kids & and got our Panther gear & game faces on and we’re headed to our favorite bar for this one.
Bring it on Baby!
LOL especially here in the Philly area
I can only do this on afternoons when the Eagles aren’t playing. The Iggles creep show won’t start until later this afternoon since the Eagles Giants game is tonight
Weather has gone from summy to gray skies
via twitter and cpanthers
Supposed to get rainy here in Foxborough as the game progresses, but for now dry conditions prevail under gray skies. #Panthers #Patriots
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Here we go.
Matt Moore vs. a good secondary. I’m fascinated.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions
what i expect
the patriots aren’t ready for us. their d-line isn’t ready for our run game. they are not a great defense, and d-will is aching to play. he had a 18 carry, 40 yd game, and then he missed a game. what? he’s ready to explode. not only that, but the charges against beason were dropped. he’s not distracted like he was last week (he played well last week, but i want 12 tackles and an int). smitty is gonna get open more often and moore is gonna let it fly. i think if moore does what the coaches say, and it works, and we lose, no one will notice. moore has to let it fly and win a couple big ones to have a shot to be the starter the rest of the year and in training camp.
in other words, carolina 27, patriots 22.
hope
Pregame analysis unanimously voted the pats to win. We have a good chance now.
by EyeSack on Dec 13, 2009 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lol
Key to victory- pass more than run?
interesting Fox… interesting
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions
at least
we will get to see what Moore really has to offer that way?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Throw the damn ball?
Why not? They’re going to sell out against the run anyway ^^;;
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Well guys, it's another game against the Patriots.
I’m praying for a Panthers foot-up-their-assgate
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Wow Williams!
That was a pretty bad first run. I’m scared.
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whew...
Moore not looking so good thus far
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions
Moore lookin shaky
Didn’t see Moose open on the 2nd down
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Wow....
Moore threw the ball pretty high. Same thing with Jake Delhomme, except not as bad.
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Freaking bull.
Lightly touching the face mask. Protect Tom Brady the elite QB!
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Stupid and uneccesary by Lewis
No need for that facemask
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions
Brady doesn't look that confidant right now.
This bodes well for us.
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Maroney is the softest 'power back' I've seen
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions
He's a great power back!
….if he was playing at a school for girls.
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Belichick is getting cocky...
he used to just coach smart.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Big stop from the D!
Hollis Thomas bottled it up, Beason hit the hole hard
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To be fair, i would have done the same thing
I mean you have 4th and a yard at the other teams 40. too long for a field goal not that much to gain from punting.
Yeesh
Moore is looking really bad.
I hope he finds his stride soon
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions
Even Wesley Walls couldn't have caught that one.
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Did you see how much that ball was wobbling?
There was almost no spiral on it. Rosario probably should have caught it though
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
or if the passes are 6ft too high
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Adam, comment when his balls are hitting receivers in the face.
I remember when Chris Weinke was playing. He was literally hitting guys in the face on every throw and it took them a entire quarter to finally wake up.
Poor guy. If the Panthers just gave him another chance he’d probably have taken over the franchise for the year. Lol
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Yep
lets blame the WRs every time something goes wrong.
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and only 1 pass has hit a recievers hands.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Muhammad pass was way too high to catch.
Rosario should have caught it
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yup!
To which team though?
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Probably
2 to us, 2 to them, though it might be 1 to 3
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The running game cant get anything,
I wonder if Moore’s potential in the passing game is worth the drop off in the running game because he can’t read the D pre-snap
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions
I still say we run it down their throat.
Matt’s obviously riled right now. Give Williams the ball and let him run it, see what happens. ^^
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Thank God for Meeks
Its a good thing he got use to playing against the Pats while up in Indy!
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
+1
I think we’d be 2-10 right now without Meeks
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
cmon… no need for that
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Patriots are cocky… got stuffed on a 4th down attempt.
Moore looks pretty bad, should have been picked off twice already
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Moore sucks, Defense is awesome, Brady is scared, no scores yet ^^
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Good stuff!
Give it to Williams again!
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Running Game
needs to be a bit more creative to fool this Pat’s D
Don't give up so quick
Its not his fault we can’t run the ball
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Actually, it kinda is. He can’t key up the blocks on the linebackers before the play starts like Jake can.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
ignore him for now...sorry, he's still new to civilization
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People Chill
Let Matt get in his groove…lets wait til the game ends to judge
Great playcalling by the Grump.
Matt Moore can’t throw it today. Don’t trust him! Run the ball on 2nd and 12 and 3rd and 12.
Time for a yawn. You’d think that our coaches would at least get the short passes to the running back and some screens going at the very least.
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Brown>Brayton
He should be starting right now. I love Brayton, and I hope we resign him, but Brown’s spin move is absolutely deadly.
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That last Pats offensive play on the last possession
with the incomplete pass to Welker…
got fix that. The Pats will notice that and go deep to Moss next time
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GAMBLE
Nice
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions
lol @ comparing Moore to Brady
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Brady who?
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Sherrod Martin makes that INT on the pass over the head.
I wish Godfrey wouldn’t have gotten his spot back. That was silly by the coaches.
Oh well! We got Gamble to save us! Huzzah!
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Richard Marshall limped off?
He better be alright.
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There we go. Now call a passing play.
Let Moore throw it. Play balanced o!
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I....am....screaming...my...ass....off....right....now.
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WOW SUCh language for a reverend
also, clemson fans need to stop bitching about spiller not being invited
Let me tell you this.
In terms of total yards, CJ Spiller has the 3rd most all purpose yards in NCAA History.
Not inviting him is an absolute sham. A freaking sham I tell you.
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There we go.... nice pass by Moore
Wow… where was their safety?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions
heck...just keep going deep!
run, go deep, run
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We need to combine...
Moore on long passes + Delhomme on short passes to create some type of passing monster
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lol... good call
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Meriweather botched that totally...
I have no idea why he ran up and left the middle of the field open?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions
hmm… it seemed too late that he bought the run fake…
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Now thats how you capitalize on a turn over
takes notes Delhomme
That was a perfect throw! High and right to the left shoulder where there was no coverage.
The Patriots came into this play cocky. The safety sat up to help defend against the run. One on One against Steve Smith=oh noes! Touchdown!
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Panthers better be fired up!
The D is the key!
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+1
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Sideline reporter saying Patriot sideline is flat
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I think they thought this game was a gimme
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't look like it to me.
Brady says “Oh crap! They can throw the ball!”
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Curious...
what the hell did Meriweather bite on there?
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I'll have to rewind it to see
TE up the middle maybe
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That’s what I’m thinking…. he didn’t move in until the ball was almost out of Moore’s hand
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
which makes it so confusing.
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Lol!
John Fox is challenging that the pass was incomplete. You have to love that guy. Giving his team every single chance he can.
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Fox lover
We should fire him…
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's hilarious.
I don’t mind it either. Now it’s a 2nd and 10, and we have a better chance of stopping them.
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why is Fox challenging?
for a couple extras yards you would risk a TO?
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Man....
Nice pressure with Everette Brown. A pity we don’t have more lineman like him.
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wow
good coverage, good pressure by the D
and the Brady-Welker connection still works
by GoodOl'NorthState on Dec 13, 2009 1:43 PM EST reply actions
If Brady throws that to Welker like that again
the Panthers should pick it
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There we go!
This is great guys! I hope the Patriots challenge it too.
That would be a wash.
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It's looking like I did the right thing...
…in starting the Panthers D in stead of Pittsburgh on my fantasy team!
bounced off of his hands
didn’t matter with penalty
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Steve Smith is pissed
give him the rock
by GoodOl'NorthState on Dec 13, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Dang man.
Let Matt throw it now!
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I'd congratulate you...
but we all knew it was coming.
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Oh come on...it wasn't that obvious...har har
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That's just bloody rediculous.
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...
Matt Moore had a freaking Colt McCoy moment
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You've got to be kidding me.
Are you going to put any faith in this kid at all? 3rd and 17? Really?
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Relying on New England's offense to keep making mistakes isn't going to win the game,
We have to move the chains.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions
That's all very swell
But the coaches need to give Moore the ball so that we can have a chance to complete it on 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 12 situations. They have no trust in the man, at all. Conservative playcalling like this isn’t going to win against teams like the Patriots.
Only….they’re playing like the Browns right now.
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Would you have much faith in him?
Fox is conservative as it is, and despite the deep ball Moore hasn’t been very good today.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
They haven't really given him that much of a chance.
Granted, he had one horrible drive. But the running game is going to have a rough time working without any help against the Patsies.
I’m surprised hey haven’t started to work the short passes to the RB.
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Moore should have at least 4 completions right now
Our receivers need to fuckign cathc the fucking football
He should also have 2 INTs too...
secondary should catch too.
It goes both ways
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Why is Brady's ass so sweatty?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions
For some reason they keep zooming in on it.
Kinda hard to miss
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Beason!!! Like a rocket!!
Did Conner start?
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and its going to get worse
rain is moving in
by GoodOl'NorthState on Dec 13, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Fans are pissed
Didn’t think we were that good did they?
Nope
Pats fans never think anyone’s that good
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
They’re the NFL equivalent of Red Wings fans.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
we will run for the next several plays
since we are near our goal line
Randy Moss sure doesn't look like he is all that
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Wildcat for Smith...I like it
he gets the first!!
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Take Gary off the field.
Did you guys see that? Watched him dodge contact like some sort of panzy?
Never again. Never ever again.
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Wow... Smitty almost got killed
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions
Im sorry adam but its getting ridiculous.
The pass was high and too far away. It hit one hand… uncatchable
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
So Steve Smith should make a leaping, one handed, left handed catch to make up for Moore’s bad throw?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Dang....
Smith got jacked up.
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That was horrible.
Matt Moore….wow.
Wide freaking open….I could have hit that.
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Moore is looking bad...the mid-range passes or being way over thrwon
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He looks like a young Duante Culpepper
The only thing he can complete is the deep ball.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I want to go full Moore hating mode.
But then I think of Jake Delhomme, and I bite my tongue.
Cmon Moore. You’re better than this.
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So... Tony Pike or Jason Campbell?
Discuss
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions
I think Campbell could resurrect his career in Carolina
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Jason Campbell.
Definitely. He would be great here.
We should pick him up, and take a rookie in the later rounds.
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It would have to be a 2nd round pick for Pike, then Campbell in FA
I think thats too much for 1 position.
Campbell + 2nd round WR is my vote
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
We need immediate results judging by this game. Go Campbell.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
He is.
Look at his stats… and he has no recievers of note in Washington
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Hasn't done anything
to win it either
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Because he hasn't done anything to prove he's a starter yet either.
There a 3 more games… I’ll reserve judgement till the end of the season.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
You work with what you have
He’s failed at that.
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What does that mean?
A mediocre performance against a 1-12 team and 50% completion and 4 potential picks doesn’t sell me
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Tony Pike
Just not impressed with Campbell enough to make him the future of the team
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Brady bad pass on 3rd down
and Morris can’t come up with it!! 4th down!!
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We need to capitalize more on just how much the Patriots are sucking,
They wont be this bad in the 2nd half
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions
Ditto. There’s no way we’re going to pitch a shutout here.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
relax people
moore hasn’t thrown a pick yet, hasn’t done anything to cost us a game. he made a baller td pass to smith. the weather is cold, wet, and miserable. let’s face it, he’s outperforming his competition
Why haven’t we used it more?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Good job Jeff
He knows how to complete a catch and fight for yards. Much better than freaking fall-on-the-ground Gary.
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Excellent pass by Matt Moore.
Could this be the turning point?
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Smitty!! Moore finally is on target on the mid-range pass
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We're down to 4 minutes.
I say the Panthers get a good drive here, and kick the field goal with no time remaining to go up by two possessions! ^^
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4th and 3?
Stupid John fox won’t go for it
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why should he with the way our offense has been playing today?
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Because he's too scared to use Rhys
So either way it’s a fail
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Everything I’ve heard about Lloyd says he’s a bad field goal kicker.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
But he can kick it the distance.
Kasay won’t get it there, so you have no chance. Rhys gets it there, even if it is off target, you still got a shot
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What the hell?
Damnet Fox! Don’t do that!
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too far for kasay
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions
That's when we use Lloyd,
Geeezzz fox
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BS
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions
That's complete crap.
Help out Brady because he’s having a bad day.
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Blehh
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brady interference... defense
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions
Talk about Official favorism..
So WE just got a penalty because a N.E. receiver doesn’t know how to catch?
Helpful reminder for James at seasons end: 2nd Rnd CSR Fan Draft Pick.
Goal line stand plz
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Brady rules are in effect for the last 2 minutes of any half
I believe it was a ‘point of emphasis’ in the offseason.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions
Inevitable.
Look at how tired our defense was at the end of the half. They’ve been on the field far too long.
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BS pass interference call,
BS defensive holding call, BS TD. What a crock.
Alright Moore
Let’s see if you can do as well as Jake would
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We're gonna run the half out
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions
Stupid fox
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, we're going to lose guys.
I was just able to tune in before the last Carolina drive but it’s evident the officials are going to do everything in their power to favor the Pats.
Brady is the only guy that can drive the field without completing a pass.
Helpful reminder for James at seasons end: 2nd Rnd CSR Fan Draft Pick.
sigh
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions
why not use our timeouts and try to get a
INT never mind
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Ground helped him get possession.... but we are playing the PATS
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions
This thread is hilarious. All year we’ve been complaining about not running the football enough. Now we’re whining because we’re not throwing it.
Im whining about the Officials..
But I just got here, so I don’t know what you guys are whining about.
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Not me, I think we should run it more, but Moore is having a horrible game and yet everyone wants to throw more. It’s great.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would typically agree...
Because I love running the ball but I feel if we were to do it more, New England would tighten up on it and we’d see less ground success… Of course, that’s where the pass comes in but I’m still not positive Moore can make that pass count consistently.
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knee
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions
If that were Brady taking that hit… It’d be roughing the passer for an 80yd penalty.
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I laughed
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
why did the clock start? that was muffed up...
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
screen play
ohh that hook and ladder almost worked!
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That was a really cool play,
despite the fact we didn’t get the TD
Wow!
That was a pretty good play! No idea why Smitty ran it out of bounds though.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I wouldn't have thought it was that high
too many bad passes
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I was surpised too.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Why'd he go out?
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by Figgi4life on Dec 13, 2009 2:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sutton sure is playing an awful lot-you think the Panthers are gonna work a trade in the offseason for Draft picks?
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 13, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions
I think it's very possible.
I agree we’re seeing him a lot.
If Fox likes him that much I wouldn’t be surprised if we wrestled a 1st round pick for J-Stew.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I would be pissed if they traded him
and break up an amazing tandem
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm right there with you.
Sutton looks like he could be a gem though.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he meant trade Sutton
Me?,,,trade Godfrey and Anderson
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That was my thoughts exactly. They are trying see what Sutton has. Stew’s value is much higher. A first rounder might get us a QB. Ndamakong Suh would be nice!
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 13, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions
Suh would be a dream.
I don’t think we could get a top 5 pick for Stewart though.
For my money, Suh is a once in a decade type player. He’s going to be very, very special.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Strahan said Moore is "playing really well"
I’m not ready to say that
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He also said 'Brothers' was a hilarious comedy...
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
And in other news, Strahan just got handed a pink slip.
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whats up guys...just got home
game seems close…how are we playing?
Errr...defense playing well
Offense blowing chances
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hopefully we pick it up in second half...
seems like moore is doing okay
It’s not so much how we’re playing, it’s how bad the Pats are playing.
They have the refs on their side though.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe we package Stew and Godfrey for a top 5 pick.
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 13, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Let's go guys.
Time to go back to kicking ass.
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First half obeservations
Love Matt Moore
Moose (Panthers) has stone hands
Refs gave Patriots 7 points
John Fox’s call for field goal desperate
and the other Moose (Cowboys) suit has me scratching my head. Who picked that out?
Brady meets Bitchslap.
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Nice hit by Johnson.... i had my fingers crossed.
I was sure they were going to throw a flag
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions
Pats seem to be stopping the run pretty good, we need to get the passing game going. Rosario, Smith, and Moose or Jarrett.
by D-Angelo Grill-iams on Dec 13, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions
Matt Moore isn’t cooperating, at least not on short to intermediate passes.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Again the Patsies are Panzies.
CMON MOORE!
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That run just gave DeAngelo Williams over 1,000 yard rushing this season
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions
??
The 26 yard rush put him at 1,022
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Now lets see him get another 1,000...
By seasons end. haha!
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I love Ron Meeks. That running to the ball thing always comes in handy on fumbles.
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Oh no! The Panthers are getting down the field.
Better call a penalty.
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Moore had another good drive that possession tho
give the man his credit. btw i got banned on pats pulpit for suggesting the Golden Child is past his prime
C’mon Adam…. it’s not worth it.
Just stay on the Panthers thread here
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
haha
its just funny tho. i suggested that Moore is better than Brady is RIGHT NOW and they harp on the 3 rings. apparently brady won 3 super bowls this year
I hope you banned his entire IP range, otherwise he’ll just join again.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Considering the refs are doing everything they can to beat us..
And the Pats are giving a good effort too, I’m surprised we’re still in here.
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As the great Charlie Brown once said....
Good grief.
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Other than almost killing Clifton Smith
Dante Wesley is far and away the ST MVP this season
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions
BTW earlier when Wilfork left
did you see how he threw his helmet down. That doesnt bode well for good sportsmanship
Welker just got jacked!
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I don't hate the Saints
most undefeated teams you hate with a passion and want them to lose unless they are your team. I wouldn’t be tremendously upset if they go 19-0
I hate their fanbase this season
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
They reek of a team losing in the 1st round of the playoffs to me
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
What ever their 1st game will end up being.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
WTF...sideenly we can't stop the Pats running for less than 5?
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Welker kills everyone.
We need to put Smitty in the slot more.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go....
Brady has caught fire.
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+1
We didn’t jump on their bad play in the 1st half
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
thats why when our O sucked
when the D was stoppoing them is now coming home to roost!
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The offense has to move the chains... that's all there is to it
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions
this b lows
3 turnovers and we are down by 7
the offense blows
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+1000
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think the entire offense blows.
There’s been 2 good plays (Moore’s bomb and Williams’ 26 yard run) then a bunch of crap
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
While Williams and Stewart sit dormant? Bad idea.
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no i know
we wont. were 3 games back with 4 games left and numerous teams in front of us. its not going to happen
Likely, we aren’t. Possibly, we are. Beat the Pats, get a head of steam to close the season, anything can happen in the NFL. We will have plenty of time to see what Moore is capable of through the rest of the season. Besides, if we don’t run it’ll be harder for him.
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Besides, if we don’t run it’ll be harder for him.
This.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Lets just hand off to D-Will every down
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions
Williams is averaging more YPC than Moore is YPA (or YPC).
Keep handing it off
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
hahha i think its funny haha they will let jake throw it 30 times
but wont let moore throw it 20 hahaha
Moore's been good when
he’s been flushed out of the pocket
Rosario saves a INT there... bad throw by Moore
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions
WHAT a catch
Questionable pass… into 2 man coverage
Thats the same throw that people chided Jake for.
Double coverage with a corner faced up on the ball….
Rosario saved it.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
We're critiquing Moore like he's Peyton Manning
He’s done more than what was expected. I think he’s stepped up and shown he can be a starting QB for this team and won’t make critical mistakes to cost a team a game
Manning doesn’t throw into double coverage.
That’s QBing 101.
He hasn’t cost us the game, but we’re not winning either. There are plenty of good QBs who aren’t leaders or winners. Moore needs to make the step before I think he’s a permanent answer.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
No, not at all.
But there have been plenty of questionable decisions that he needs to improve on.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Welker could be the best WR in the NFL
He’s now leading the league in recieving yards and he was injured 2 games.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions
Missed tackle by Pep
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions
Our defense just may have run out of gas....
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They've held the Pats to 14 points.
Cut them some slack and accept the truth. Matt Moore has failed us.
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Missing wide open receivers, not once but several times.
If the Patsies were not playing like Panzies today, he’d already have two interceptions on his resume.
He has to get better. Period.
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once again
an 89.3 qb rating and the fact that he’s young and we can’t expect him to be Peyton Manning leaves us with much to be excited about. I think he can be the future of this organization. I really don’t see the need at going out and getting a QB if matt moore can play this well
He's had 3 years to learn the playbook and know his receivers.
I suppose we’re going to wait till he’s 30 for him to finally hit his stride? I suppose we’re going to continue to depend on defenders dropping easy picks?
If he’s not good now, he’s not going to ever be good.
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That was pretty nasty by Hayden
Eye gouging much?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
4th quarter has never been our forte this year....
w need to change that…
really?
thats not an excuse. you make stops and u get to go off the field. if you get paid however many million they get paid u dont have an excuse to be tired. PERIOD
Offense needs to stay on the field too.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Food for thought
Patriots average 27.3 ppg…. we have them at 14.
Defense is playing well, offense needs to match
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions
+1000
Offense aren’t moving the chains
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
So..
What would you guys say our weakness is right now? Is Moore not moving the chains in the air? Is our ground game not working? Are they both going but the o-line simply not allowing them a chance to make plays? What do you think?
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Veteran leadership on offense.
Moore can throw the ball, but he’s not good pre-snap.
Jake is lightyears ahead of him at reading the defense and identifying blitzers.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
That part will come...
… along with directing receivers on the scramble
by 12th_Man_Fan on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
But that’s rookie stuff and he’s been in the league for a while now.
I’m afraid if we leave it to let him learn on the job our window will close.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
He's been in the league for 3 years
and has played 3 (4) games… he IS a rookie
by 12th_Man_Fan on Dec 13, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
How many games did Aaron Rodgers start before the 2008 season?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
A combination of those things. Gross being out really hurts our o-line, so our running game suffers. As James pointed out, Moore can’t key in on blitzers pre-snap, and judging by this game, he can’t hit anybody on short to intermediate routes on a consistent basis.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Brees is a freaking beast.
31/40 for 296 yards and 3 TD’s.
Honestly?
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The fact that we're even in this at this point of the game...
…. beats the dreariness of 5 weeks ago
From the ref's point of view..
It was a love tap.
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That's INT #4 that probably should have occured.
Moore has a horsehoe lodged up his * right now.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions
You sound like a Jake hater only switch that with Moore!
I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it.
No, I like Moore. I hope he's the answer.
But when there have been 4 passes hit the hands of Pats secondary it’s irrefutable
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fire Crossman already?
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4 mins is an eternity
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Brees gave me 54 fantasy points.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
If we just had ANY semblance of an offense,
This team would be in the playoffs.
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Matt Moore
been showing this whole game he is NOT better than delhomme. His most realistic ambition in the NFL is to be a back up. Clearly we need to look else where for QB options for anyone who actually thought he was an option.
umm at least
we haven’t given any points away from turnovers!
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
no
you give Joke how long of a leash and then Matt throws 1 pick that wasnt his fault in 2 games while receivers continue to drop passes and yet he sucks
and another 4 picks that the secondary didnt catch.
Like I said earlier, it goes both ways.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't in favor of giving Jake the long leash
that was Fox.
Quite simply though… Jake, if nothing else, has proved in seasons past that he could be a starter in the league. Moore hasn’t shown that.
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he was rookie of the month
his only month starting and has had 2 good games so far this year, he has an 86.7 rating today yet you dismiss him
2 good games so far this year?
I would disagree.
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I see
that he did alright against a really bad TB team missing their best corner, and then struggled against a good team.
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15-30, 6.6 YPA
I’m not impressed
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Just because you have different opinions doesn’t mean you should insult them.
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Please.
Can someone please remind me how this troll is unbanned?
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He tried to think....
But all that came out was DUR!
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+1
It’s a little early, but the offense have no spark with Moore on the field.
I don’t know what it is.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say he's not better than Delhomme
but I’d agree that at best, he’s a back-up
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That should be it.
Two possession game with 4 minutes remaining? Not happening.
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how many ints did he almost throw the pats just couldnt catch it. WRs have been bailing him out on other almost ints. Im holding on to hope for this game I just don’t see it happening.
Meaning what?
WRs dropped passes? Sure.
But so did the CBs.
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Moore did nothing.
Defense is the reason we’re only down by 10.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
The problem with the offensive struggles...
…should be blamed on the coaching staff.
Davidson (or whoever is calling the pays) is horrible.
Moore is decent, and should have been the starter after week 1, 2 or 3, so that now in week 15 he wouldn’t look like a rookie and would be more acclimated with this offense. So that rests on Fox.
Plus a below average receiving corps doesn’t help matters. Whatever happened to K Moore?
Honestly..
I don’t know what is going on. It’s just not happening. Moore is doing decent but he’s not the answer we were so sincerely hoping he would be – not unless he works a miracle to finish the season.
Moore isn’t the answer. Delhomme isn’t the answer. We need look elsewhere.
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Again, premature
I’d like to see the remaining 3 games before I agree
by 12th_Man_Fan on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
well lets just be honest guys we dont have a true number 2 receiver and i see moose retiring after this year man i wish we still have ricky proehl???
We need to draft a number 2
We never should have cut Keyshawn Johnson…
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
That's it guys.
We’re without a spark in our eyes. No one on our offense wanted to win this game. It’s a freaking terrible shame.
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Pats pass defense allows 214 yards per game.
Moore has thrown for 197
Pats run defense allows 108 ypg, we have run for 123 yards
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions
Is it safe to say Moore is nothing more than a backup QB?
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I think so. I’ll give it till the end of the season, but I don’t see anything special from him
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
That being said
I think he should play the season out.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
After just a handfull of starts?
Premature, I think.
matt moore has gotten very lucky he hasnt thrown 2 or more ints this game. People’s irrational hatred for delhomme is crazy. Is he going to be a QB for us from here on out… probably not but please don’t let blind hatred lead into irrational beliefs. We need a real starting QB I like matt moore just not as a starter.
There is no correlation between people's hatred for Delhomme and Moore
Neither one of them should be starting
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hahahahahahahahaha
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Richardson will file for bankruptcy
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4th-and-20?
And that’s it? A short dump-off?
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At least we got a little bit of humor out of the broadcast
We ran well for the most of it..
But as usual didn’t run that much.
Averages: Williams 6.3, Stewart 4.1, Sutton 6.0
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Same stuff, different day
Again. This has been the problem offensively all year. Panther running backs tearing it up, they’re just not getting the ball enough.
Yep.
The OC/HC are giving up on the run way too early in games.
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Thought we did that last week
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And are compensation just lost the game for us
I haven’t seen anything to be excited about Brown
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I like him.
He brought a lot of good pressure in the 1st half. He’s just gassed, like the rest of our defense.
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I didn't see much pressure
At least none that can help you win a game
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Somehow.
There’s the “Oh there’s just a guy in my face” pressure
The “OH S***! He’s going to kill me!” pressure
And then the “Oh…well there you are.” pressure.
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Sea ya next season
Gb just won. The 1st round pick cost us a chance. And the panthers have . 1/64 if the win. Make this stop
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I have a thought...
If Fox doesn’t come back next year…do we place Meeks as HC?
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The guy who gets a lot of "pressure"
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At least our most effective
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Brown needs reps
he brings more pressure then Brayton
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
LOL! We were saying he would replace Pep!
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Yeah...
can’t happen if Peppers is still here
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Brown has looked good in limited...
there is still the fact that he’s behind Peppers & Brayton.
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Out of playoff reach.
We are unofficialy out of it unless there is a miracle. Very small chance. Out at 4:09.27 E.T.
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We need a QB and reciever in the offseason if we are going to be competitive next year
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And a DT
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We have plenty of DTs at this point. The problem is most of them are injured.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Our pass rush sucked before they were injured... going back to last year with Kemo
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We don’t use DTs as pass rushers.
Plus, we brought in a whole bunch of new ones this season. We have higher priorities.
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I meant run block... typing faster than I'm thinking
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Honestly...
we’re going to need more than 1 DT, I assume.
They’ll probably hope a couple of late rounders can fill in the middle…
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We haven't drafted a QB in the 1st or 2nd round since Kerry Collins.
Unless Jason Campbell falls into our laps we need to get one.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Better than Matt Moore in ever concieable aspect.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
He's got an arm... what else?
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Look at his stats
2,724 yards (15th in NFL)
15 TD, 12 INT, 87.7 QB rating.
Washington’s o-line is decemated, and he has no receivers. Ill take it
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
I haven’t paid much attention to him… Just seems like he’s getting reamed every year for not being able to get it done
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Last season he was amazing.
3,200 yards, 13 TD, 6 INT, 86.8 QB rating.
This BS that Campbell is bad is just a cover for the Redskins
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Think they'll try to keep him?
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They might, but he wont resign.
He’s put up with more BS than any other QB
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
He’s probably at the end of his run there.
He’s struggled with WRs that the owner thinks are good, and since the owner runs everything there, Campbell won’t be back.
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The thing is...
everyone sees the WRs the Redskins have (Randle El, Moss, Devin Thomas, Malcom Kelly) and sees that they had good number years ago (Thomas & Kelly in college) and just think everything should work.
Ranle El & Moss are all but done, and Thomas/Kelly have really struggled adapting to the pro game, it seems. Plus their coach is a moron, but whatever
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Not a great effort by Moore but...
Moore didn’t set the world on fire, but he didn’t throw away the game. Based on that alone, Moore should continue starting.
I agree he should continue for 2009
But the notion he’s a future answer is ludicrous
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Probably still too early to be shoveling dirt on Moore
I’m a little skeptical of Moore. But It has to be said that his numbers improved against a pretty decent team. I saw improvement by Moore, including pointing out blitzes, etc.
I am becoming concerned about his arm strength though. I haven’t seen a single pass with any zip and a lot of floating deep balls. I’m usually multitasking during games though… Maybe I just missed one or two
He throws a little high, and sometimes underthrows like Jake
He hasn’t really been learing from the best
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Absolutely..
To finish the season.. a good game against a bad team and a mediocre game against a good(?) team still isn’t enough to evaluate.
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Not been posting that much because of epic schoolwork. I’ll see if I can post something on the Vikings getting ready to crush our souls next week
Boring game. Absolutely boring.
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What free agent QB or reciever might we be able to pick up?
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Free Agency
WRs…
—>I really like Kevin Walter out of these options
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What about Brandon Marshall?
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Probably too expensive
and definitely too much of a head-case
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Also
maybe Tarvaris Jackson at QB?
He’s struggled a bit earlier (pushed into starting too early?), but he’s shown flashes and is now learning behind Favre
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Some good names on that list
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Wow I'd take a lot of those receivers..
I have to agree with ST. If Marshall goes FA we need to grab him.
If they go FA I wouldn’t mind an attempt at V. Jackson, A. Bryant, M. Austin, D. Bess, M. Floyd, and D. Hixon.
(Salary issues aside)
QB wise I’d take J. Campbell, T. Jackson, or T. Smith.
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Troy Smith would just be another backup
We already got 5 of those!
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I don't know...
Smith was going to start in Baltimore last year before Flacco came on much stronger than expected.
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How tall is he?
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Vincent Jackson will probably resign
I think Bess would be a good pick-up
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He's not going to get drafted.... im pretty sure we can just sign him
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
he will get drafted
all his people are telling him 5th round should be the latest. he is baller too. another keyshawn johnson
What does..
“he is baller” mean?
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Someone's lying to him.... 5th round...
Scoutsinc has him as the 31st WR prospect… that’s 7th round to undrafted
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
i dont give a fuck what scouts inc has him at
when i see nfl scouts at practice everyday and i ask them where do they see him going and THEY TELL ME 5th round latest, ill bide by their opinions
Okay, we'll see who's right
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
So..
What team are you practicing with?
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Alright.
It’ll be interesting to see how correct they are.
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look at his numbers though
they are absolutely phenomenal. he broke some of jerry rice’s career fcs records
That won't matter though
in the NFL draft, it all comes down to numbers you put up at the combine and how you look against the CBs there.
Not saying it’s right or wrong, but that’s how it is.
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Remember Stanley McClover?
He was supposed to be a 2nd rounder.
And lets see how he does in the combine against more talented corners than guys he’s going up against
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oh he will get drafted
he will translate well
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
I really blame the OC for our malfunction
his play calling is very vanilla…I believe we have very talented people on the roster, its just rare when we try something new. I think very few QB’s can excel in our current offense. Its time for a change
It won't matter, because Cowher will bring in a new OC
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we are not getting Cowher
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by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
reports are, wherever he goes
he would want to bring in his GM from Pittsburgh too, who from reports seems willing to go wherever Cowher goes
I'll be looking forward to that..
When Fox’s contract runs out.
Lately, I’ve been wondering, how would Meeks system work with a 3-4? We seem to have a great LB core but not so much at DT.
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Why would Meeks convert his cover 2 to adapt to a 3-4?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope it doesn't happen...
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Our linebackers don’t fit the 3-4 mold, too undersized. Neither do our D-lineman.
It’s not happening. Or at least it shouldn’t happen.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want to see it happen..
But why are the LB’s undersized? I mean, I get the basics but I haven’t seen a guy yet that Thomas Davis or Beason are too undersized to tackle.
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The LBs need to be able to go with blockers 1-on-1
and shed the blockers & make plays.
If you watch plays in the game today…
There was one where Peppers was neutralized by a TE. That can’t happen in a 3-4.
There was another where the TE absolutely stopped Beason, and the RB snuck past for extra yardage.
Things like that make the 3-4 very ineffective
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That's why you do this:
Everette Brown—-Thomas Davis—-Jon Beason—-Julius Peppers
-——Damione Lewis——Hollis Thomas———-Kemo
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
That seems..
Like it would be awesome.
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Yeah...
until week 3, when all 3 of our linemen are out for season with injuries, and Peppers has given up again
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Sorry,
I should probably have put a disclaimer like “I’m a pessimist” or something on that.
;)
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+1
Coaching mistakes all around really. Foxy should never have tried a 52 yard field goal in that terrible weather. The short field and subsequent touchdown gave NE new life. You can’t always ask the defense to bail you out when the other side always gets great field position.
Fox is gone, because Richardson is losing money
It’s no longer just about being a good coach. Fox has lost any connection with fans. Richardson has to make a move because he’s running a business.
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True... but if he ditches Fox he needs to pay two coaches for a year..
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn't matter... he has to put a product that people want
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Carolina doesn't do flashy things like this
its always back fired
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
You have to spend money to make money
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Well at the end of the day
Nobody except a few of you loyal fans want Fox around.
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Can you really listen to another year of "It is what it is"
Personality void is fine when you are winning… now it’s getting very old
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good point
I wonder if Pep’s huge paycheck being gone next year will have any impact on that decision.
so he is going to pay a huge amount of money to Cowher??? right........
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
My fingers are crossed
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Mine are too...
I really hope Cowher goes elsewhere
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Your fingers are not properly crossed
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Making the AFC championship 40% of his seasons in Pittsburg
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As I recall, George Seifert had a great run in San Fran.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
That won't happen 2x
Cowher is still in his prime ;)
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His record
without Dick LeBeau alongside him is horrible.
LeBeau brings the 3-4, which we would struggle to fit into.
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We're keeping Meeks
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That superbowl..
He got 13 years later.
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That's 3 less than what we are on
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So by the time Fox's contract runs out..
We should still have two, right?
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You don't like going to championships?
You’d rather not be watching Football in Jan, 2 out of every 3 years?
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I do..
But until we got an OC that can call the right plays and a QB that can execute them, it doesn’t matter if we have Fox or Cowher.. And we’re perfectly capable of doing both without having to cut Fox instead of letting his contract run its course.
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Well Fox obviously has no intention of bringing in a great QB
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history
how many non-drafted QBs have we played this year?
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and how many of those took us to a Superbowl?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
"and how many of those took us to a Superbowl?"
5 years ago, Stephen Davis was a solid RB. Doesn’t mean we should go bring him back…
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ummm there's a big difference
RB’s are not the same as QB’s…or do we not watch the same sport?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
So you think another undrafted QB is our Superbowl ticket
just following your logic
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The argument isn't..
That we shouldn’t get a QB (we definitely need one) but that we should stick with Fox just one more year to let his contract run out. It’s not that long unless I’m mistaken on his time remaining.
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No, because we have too many peices to rebuild
Bad idea to try it with a coach that might not be around long
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We entered the year with a perfectly solid option. Sadly that option wasn’t as solid as we thought. We hadn’t before had the need to stock up on QBs. This is the first year, it’s not like its a problem we have repeatedly had year after year.
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Fox
just doesn’t seem willing to put in the time to develop a QB. We should’ve drafted one 2 or 3 years ago, but they kept putting it off to add guys like Vinny T or David Carr or AJ Feeley or what-not.
And now we have no future QB on the roster, and taking one in the draft to start from day 1 means rebuilding
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I'm telling ya "it is what it is" is gone
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In fairness
Carr was going to be the QB we developed, but he got rushed into the gate and had a horrible year.
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What's his record without Dick LeBeau...
look that up and there’s your reason why I say no to Cowher
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
That's a scapegoat
LeBeau’s a Dick
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LeBeau
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We'll keep Meeks
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Yeah
but I don’t know if Cowher is worth it then. What does he bring, other than his name?
I’d rather keeps Meeks’ Cover-2, and then add an HC & OC that can play to the teams strengths’.
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To be fair
he isn’t losing any money this year. We haven’t blacked out one game. Although merch sales might have dropped
Dammit
No Cowher….No 3-4….Matt Moore isn’t terrbile…Meeks is the man…and Davidson should be fired…end of story
2010 Team
HC: Cowher
OC: ?
DC: Meeks
QB: Cambell
WR1: Smitty
WR2: ?
RB: DeAngelo or Stewart (one will get traded)
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lol! stupid people
At least you are trying!
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Yes
It was a good effort!
He makes progress, regresses a bit in the moment, but makes further progress.
I like your line up, for 2011 :). I’d hate to see Williams or Stewart go though.
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We’re all fans of the same team. We all want to win a Superbowl (and if me being wrong means a SB victory, I’m all for every word being the epitome of stupidity). We just accept others opinions and grow from them, perhaps expanding our own frame of mind or at the least better understanding both sides of the argument to assess the situation.
We’re working with you to take steps forward :)
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Quick Question
What do you think your future QB situation will be?
Is Delhomme coming back when healthy?
Is Moore your guy?
Or do you think they’re looking for another option?
My son’s a fan (likes Delhomme) and we’re looking at jersey options for Christmas.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, Beason is a safe option
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Delhomme is probably done
though he’ll probably still be on the roster next year due to salary issues.
Moore is probably the guy for the rest of this season… don’t see it lasting though.
I’d assume they’re looking elsewhere, but HurFox has constantly shown the ability to look the wrong way…
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Moore will be the Panthers franchise QB
for the next 7-8 seasons. buy a moore jersey. you may have to get it customized though
Jersey options,
If you want logievity get a Jon Beason jersey, or DeAngelo Williams.
The QB situation is crazy. It’s unikely Delhomme will be back starting, and Matt Moore isnt a log term answer.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 13, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
DeAngelo could get traded
I think him or JStew are going to have to be used to start rebuilding this team. Plus we got decent RBs on the bench.
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I'd rather..
Trade Goodson and a lower (low) pick for a very high pick, or a valid WR.
Keep Williams, Stew, and Sutton in case of injury. We’re safe so far this year, so next year doesn’t look bright for the run game.
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Goodson definitely has no value
Trade DWill, because JStew has more power… and Goodson will be his quicker backup. Keep Sutton in case Goodson continues to fumble
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I'm sorry
why the hell would you trade any of them?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want to
But only one is on the field at a time… And we have other holes that are killing us. We can’t continue to be so one dimensional
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Goodson is the kind of back that would have a ton of value in a place like Detroit that really needs help. Kevin Smith isn’t the answer there. Not to mention he could be a good double threat back. Coupled with another lower pick he could really help out on some teams.
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I still don't think we can keep a starting RB on the bench for long
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I really do get your point and I’d love to agree but I can’t help but feel it would end up a mistake. Williams is the speed, Stewart is the power. Sutton is a little of both but excels at neither (so far). Goodson still needs work but will end up solid.
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That's why you have to get compensated well
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I will pass on compensation of draft picks
then get rid of our backs
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
How bout a trade that gets us our starting QB, or WR?
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Williams has power too, and is the overall better runner.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the info
I’ve always liked 34 (Walter Payton’s number).
Beason would be a good choice, too.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
still...
Pass…he is very over-rated at times…but a huge step forward from Wharton
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Beasons more exciting than a friggin o-linemen
The kid has to wear the thing on his back!
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I'm telling you... 34 is not a safe option!
We cannot keep 2 starting RBs forever… especially with so many other needs
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Who wastes money on a o-linemen jersey?
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What would you prefer to have on display Beason or Kalil?
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Or Lloyd ;)
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nope
doesn’t show up on his record pal…he is a free man
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
yah..i see your point
since both have such huge contracts?
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sorry that comment was at southtunnel
for trading d-will
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Because you buy ones jersey, and he might not be around
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since we are going to trade
the number 3 back in the nfl…right?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
ONLY if it can help us get some serious power for our passing game
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we don't need serious power in a passing game
we were never that powerful during the year of the Superbowl…it was about solid D and a kick ass running game….we need someone not to throw picks and manage 3rd downs
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That was 2003
How many top 5 rushing teams are in the top 10 this year?
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NYG, NO, Carolina, Miami, Tennessee
Only New Orleans is an elite team… And that’s because they have the passing game to support it
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so that makes them elite eh?
were the Patriots elite when they got their ass handed to them in the big show?
by MHEhrichs_52 on Dec 13, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
what the fuck? yes they were
they were at worst the number 2 team in the nfl? how would that make them not elite
agreed Pats are an elite team
but New Orleans is not and will not be considered an elite team
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Elite means they are in the playoff hunt almost every year
ie Colts, Pats, Giants, Eagles
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Bengals don't have a top 5 running game
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We were last year, we can do it again.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Last year we had a serious pasing threat
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
We had a solid passing threat. Difference.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
tomato tomAto
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Depends. If your son’s like me and respects what Delhomme’s done for this franchise and likes him as a person, he’s a good option.
If you’re looking for longevity, go with Beason or Williams.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
K
this is getting really annoying.
Free Fesenko!
RIP Nick Adenhart. 4/9/09
True Blue Jazz
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OK here comes an out of town perspective...
Panthers went into a Hornet’s nest today and the players (particularly on the defensive side) showed a ton of heart and kept this game winnable thru 3.5 quarters.
At this point, I truly believe that Meeks is the real deal and think we are just a QB or a humility driven OC, or more pedestrian caliber schedule away from big time success.
Gotta bring this up at the risk of sounding like a whiner—which I am not—-but the NFL has a real problem with the officiating right now. I’m not saying anything is fixed…that is stupid…but let me say these guys they got officiating are part timers and they are going into these games with a “template” on who they think should win and you’ll see calls go that direction at the end of the half or end of the game, or at crunch time depending on the situation.
I watched todays game with a bar full of neutral fans that unanimously agreed tht the Patriots were the benificiaries of such a scenario today. Anyway heads up Panthers fans, we have a solid foundation with alot of heart and we will be back…SOON!!!!
Just wanted to say on behalf of my wife kids & I, we’re proud to be a Panthers fans and you guys are stuck with our dumb-ass perhaps out of touch reality a$$es forever!!!
GO PANTHERS!!
I still think you stole my name. ;)
Good game. You guys just need a few tweaks and you’ll be right back in it.
Didn't steal it but Kudos...
and mutual admiration for a great choice in screennames.
I take it your a Pats fan.. Good game & good luck the rest of this season.
Charlie Weis is looking for a job...
how about hiring him as the new OC?
Just kidding. ;)
Jake Delhomme > Matt Moore
I think that’s pretty obvious. Even with the INTs this season he’s moving the ball better.
And Davidson is awful. He’s moved below Crossman on my list…
im new so hello all
from uk so gimme a break if i dont know all about college football and everything
where has goodson disappeared to?
There are Panther fans from all around the world here :)
I’m sure someone would be along shortly to welcome you but I’ll go ahead and do it..
Welcome to CSR :)
Goodson has had a bit of a fumbling problem so hasn’t seen much action. He seems like he’ll be a pretty explosive play maker when he matures into NFL material though.
Helpful reminder for James at seasons end: 2nd Rnd CSR Fan Draft Pick.
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