Has Panthers Delhomme Made Final Start of 2009?
Does anyone else find it slightly incredulous that Panthers coach John Fox calls Jake Delhomme day-to-day following a fracture of his middle finger on his throwing hand? That easily sounds like a three or even four week healing process. I'm pretty sure it took Tony Romo three to four weeks to recover from a similar injury last season. Four weeks until being able to throw without pain sounds reasonable and besides, why would you want to rush back a QB with 18 INT's in 11 games? Wouldn't you want to make sure Delhomme's finger is a 100% before risking another loss at this point?
So if we assume Delhomme is out four weeks then why not just sit him the final two? If in these next two games Matt Moore leads the Panthers back to .500 at 7-7 they are suddenly back in the wildcard hunt. Removing Moore from the line up after resurrecting the season against teams like the Patriots and Vikings would certainly put Fox in the hot seat if Delhomme tanked...again.
If the Panthers instead lose the next two games the season is dead and so again I ask why start Delhomme. Let him go ahead and start his planning for next season. With his contract the Panthers will at the very least have him back in camp and competing.
If the Panthers do lose and Matt Moore fails to impress then why not give AJ Feeley a shot? I'll stop there and not suggest we elevate Hunter Cantwell as tempting as that sounds. Fans pay good money to see these games and they should see the best the Panthers have on the roster. The Panthers know ultimately that need to keep a competitive team on the field to keep the wine and cheese crowd happy. Besides, even if Moore tanks you can hardly fault Fox for sticking with the kid, he obviously doesn't better options.
If the Panther are eliminated from playoff contention then I say it's time to figure out if our future starting QB is already on the roster. I would really applaud John Fox if just went ahead and told Moore he going to start at least two more games. See how the kid responds to the pressure. I will agree that Moore wasn't overly impressive in his start against the Bucs. Mediocre stats but I thought he made some good decisions under pressure, made some crisp throws and good rid of the ball quickly. Again, not an overly impressive performance but a solid (and winning helps). Honestly if there is one characteristic that has impressed me the most it was his poise. Moore doesn't appear to get rattled in the pocket, sheds hits, and appears focused on the at all times. That said, here's three things I would like to see Moore improve on in his next start.
- Let's start with his pocket awareness. The Patriots will certainly bring pressure to rattle the youngster and the Panthers offense line hasn't exactly been a fortress. I'm looking to see if he can sense the pressure and move around in the pocket a little to buy him that extra second he needs.
- Let's see if he takes more shots down field. The Patriots Achilles heel on offense is its secondary. WR Steve Smith will certainly want to build a rapport with Moore and there is no better way to do that then connect for a couple big plays. Remember Smith's miraculous catch in the freezing cold last season in Green Bay? Smith would love nothing more than to do that in Foxboro under similar conditions.
- Finally let's see if the kid uses his wheels this week. It seems there is always at least one point in every game when a QB is better served to run for the that 3rd down conversation if they could only see it. Moore has run the ball very little in his short career but that needs to change. If I'm going to invest in a young QB then I need a guy who can also pull the ball down and run three yards for that first down if the opportunity is there. We have all seen the danger of having a statue for a QB in the pocket. The pass rushers start running to a spot and it's only a matter of time before that ball gets knocked out.
Now that the Panther defense is playing better this team can keep itself in games to the end if it will only protect the ball on offense. Putting any QB coming off an injury to his throwing hand back into the starting line-up prematurely is a recipe for disaster, much less one having a season such as Delhomme's. Sticking with Moore for the remainder of the season only makes sense no matter the win-loss record. Only then will the Panthers be able to properly formulate an offseason plan for the QB position, something many fans on this site wished had happened last offseason...
I can't end on such a stale note. There STILL remains that last glimmer of hope that these Panthers with their young, fearless leader somehow infiltrates the Patriots, conquers the Vikings, squashes the Giants and excommunicates the Saints. If that miraculous scenario should happen then how excited would we be? Just think about that for a moment......I can't even go there. Positive vibe gone...
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Fox is just listing him as day-to-day to keep the opponent on their toes
Delhomme won’t physically be able to play until New York, and if Moore impresses against New England and Minnesota, then Delhomme will see the bench for the rest of the year.
Unless all our QBs except him blow their knees.
It happened at DT.
by chinchillas sword on Dec 11, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly
and if Moore doesn’t play well ie…we lose…then why play Delhomme then?
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I voted for the third option..
I think Delhomme’s career is on a down turn, and really don’t believe he will be around much more than a couple of years (At least, I hope he doesn’t try to Favre it).
It’s almost hard to say that, though. Considering what Delhomme has done for us in the past, I hate to see him lose the starting job under less than spectacular conditions (which could already be in motion if Moore happens to explode). A super bowl victory followed by a retirement announcement would’ve been nice – but this is life and so ‘it is what it is’. We must appreciate what he has done for us for a moment and then look towards the future if we wish to improve.
Much respect to Delhomme – if he never starts another game, he’ll always remain one of my favorite Panthers.
Helpful reminder for James at seasons end: 2nd Rnd CSR Fan Draft Pick.
Does anyone else find themselves saying
“It is what it is” about other things than the Panthers. Fox is growing on me!
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It’s almost hard to say that, though. Considering what Delhomme has done for us in the past, I hate to see him lose the starting job under less than spectacular conditions (which could already be in motion if Moore happens to explode). A super bowl victory followed by a retirement announcement would’ve been nice – but this is life and so ‘it is what it is’. We must appreciate what he has done for us for a moment and then look towards the future if we wish to improve.
Much respect to Delhomme – if he never starts another game, he’ll always remain one of my favorite Panthers.
That says it all for me.
by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
What's the worst that could happen?
The way I see it, if Moore starts the remainder of the games there are three possible outcomes:
1. Moore performs worse than Delhomme. I believe that’s very unlikely.
2. Moore performs about the same as Delhomme. A wash.
3. Moore performs better than Delhomme.
Of the three outcomes, two are either neutral or a positive change. Let the guy play! Of course if Moore turns out to be the answer then Fox’s chances of returning drop to zero, as it will have been proven he should have yanked Jake weeks ago.
The injury report.
I wonder if it’s Foxy making a subtle poke at Belichick for always doing the same thing?
As for Delhomme starting again. I just don’t see it. The only way I could concieve of it happening is if the defense and running game carry the team into contention while Moore and/or Feeley stink it up.
If that’s the case I think Fox goes with the devil he knows towards the very end of the season, but ultimately it’s a long shot.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Dec 11, 2009 9:29 AM EST reply actions
I just don't see it....
I will admit, I’ve never been completely sold on Fox and Delhomme. Certainly, they’re better than many others in the NFL and they did get to the Super Bowl. But I’ve felt for the last couple years that their time was over. I hate seeing an injury ending someone’s career or time with a team, but I think that Jake’s time is up as a starter for the Panthers.
If it makes you feel better....
Jake’s career was over long before the finger injury
I don't see the point...
in starting Delhomme another game this season. Let him compete in camp next year (if they decide not to eat $13M to release him) but give Moore the opportunity to prove himself for the rest of the season. We need to know what we have available before the draft.
I think there is a 95% chance he is in camp next year.
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Mark packer interviewed Phil Simms yesterday...
and discussed Delhomme, Fox, and how difficult it is for a QB to play in Fox’s system.
Anyone interested move the slider to the end to skip most of the bs.
http://www.wfnz.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4223836
I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it.
Moore should finish out the year
There is absolutely nothing to lose here. See if this is the guy. Let Delhomme take some time off, heal, physically and hopefully mentally, and then have a real competition for the starter next season.
Originally, I thought Feeley could be in the mix, but once I saw that he didn’t even know the plays in the paybook after having been around for awhile, I knew he was only on board as an emergency, and he didn’t care about being prepared for that contingency.
Since Delhomme is paid for, we cannot really afford to give up on him. We need to do what it takes to get him right, while getting his ultimate replacement ready to step up and fill his position when he leaves.
That’s my 2 cents. By the way, I wore the tie all day last Thursday, we played on Sunday, and won. The Panthers are now 5-0 when I wear the tie all day on a Thursday and play on Sunday. I wore the tie again all day yesterday. We play on Sunday agin this week. The Patriots (with or without Brady) are going down this week.
WTG Dr. Tarheel
Keep that tie around, whatever you do, don’t let the wife convince you another one is more “chic”!!!!
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
by Flowing Willow on Dec 12, 2009 6:15 AM EST up reply actions
Moore
I think he starts the rest of the year, barring some unforseen events (terrible play, injury). I just don’t think Fox has/will come out and say it. He’s got no reason to limit his options by announcing pointless statements to the media – but I’d be willing to bet it’s Moore from here on out.
Great point...
About not having to say anymore than he must.
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Not totally sold on Moore
I’ve been calling to see a QB change this season, and I hate that it came with a injury to Delhomme. That said the Bucs game was hopefully a result of nerves and a lack of rapporteur with the first team (both of which will improve with time) not a reflection of playbook knowledge or skill.
I say this because Moore has been in the system for a few years now he should know the plays as well as Delhomme and with that much time to work with NFL trainers and coaches he should have his skills the highest point without starting (which makes a major impact on skill level).
Moore was fine on Sunday for a backup, a team couldn’t ask for more out of a backup then 14-20 1int and a W. Personally I fully believe that the Panthers would be 8-4 right now if they only ran 20 pass plays a game. So this week against a “falling” AFC powerhouse I think Moore will set the tone of his career with the Panthers. If he plays strong I’ll jump on the bandwagon, if he struggles I’ll be for a little more time and a training camp competition, and if he flops there’s always the draft.

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