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New Orleans Saints defeat Carolina Panthers 30-20


New Orleans, LA- The Carolina Panthers looked like a team not ready to be leading 17-6 going into halftime in Sunday's game at the New Orleans Superdome. A dynamic Panthers offense looked aenimic in the second period failing to muster anything more than a field goal as the Saints scored 24 unanswered points on the hapless Panthers.

 

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Carolina asserted their will early in Sunday's game with a blistering 66 yard TD by DeAngelo Williams which silenced the Superdome and left the Saints reeling. This was quickly followed by a forced fumble by DE Tyler Brayton to set up a second Williams TD run, scoring twice within ten minutes.

 

The Saints offense could not deal with the Carolina defense in the first half getting stopped on three redzone drives leading to two John Karney field goals and an interception by CB Chris Gamble.

 

Going into the break the New Orleans crowd was silent, and the Panthers looked nothing like a 3-4 team fighting with a 7-0 juggernaut, rather they looked like a team who knew they were the better team on this Sunday and stepped up to the occasion, this would all change in the second half.

 

The best desription for the second half was that the Panthers failed to play like a team wanting to win a football game, rather, everyone merely wanted to keep their jobs and the team took no risks on offense. Richard Marshall blew coverage allowing a 63 yard gain by Saints WR Devery Henderson, setting up a 10 yard Pierre Thomas TD run.

 

Despite the Saints' score, the Panthers remained in the driver's seat engineering a brutal 19 play drive that ate almost ten minutes off the clock and gave the Panthers the ball on the 1 yard line. After a questionable time out Jake Delhomme bobbled the handoff from Ryan Kalil and was sacked, pushing the team back and after a questionable run plays by Tyrell Sutton, and a dropped pass by DeAngelo Williams which would have surely been a TD the Panthers were forced to settle for a short FG, their last score of the game.

 

The Saints answered back quickly the next drive with another passing TD caused by blown coverage by Richard Marshall, and poor tackling by Chris Gamble. This time it was a 54 yard pass to Robert Meachem. Despite their lack of fire the Panthers only allowed another field goal by the Saints, now the offense was severely letting the team down.

 

Even after a Jake Delhomme fumble the Panthers remained in the game for one final two minute drill starting at the Carolina two yard line. On the first play of the drive DeAngelo Williams fumbled the ball and it was recovered for a touchdown. This play sealed the Panthers fate on Sunday. The Panthers were two different teams on Sunday, there was the first half team who was dynamic, opportunistic and hungry, much like the Panthers were against Arizona, then there were the second half Panthers who looked remarkably similar to the Panthers who played Buffalo; it was tough to watch.

 

The Panthers return home to face the Atlanta Falcons on November 15th at 1:00p.m.

 

Notes : LB Thomas Davis sustained a leg injury in the third quarter and did not return.

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Who do you blame for the Panthers loss to the Saints?
Jeff Davidson
139 votes
Jake Delhomme
78 votes
DeAngelo Williams
53 votes
Richard Marshall
25 votes
Other (please specify in comments)
58 votes

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I voted for Davidson

No way we lose this game had he called run plays with D-Will when it was 2nd & 8 with 4:00 to go in the game on the NO 43. Throwing deep two straight times and setting up a 4th & 8 killed momentum. We were down by 3 points then — sensible play calling could have led to us tying or taking the lead, but once again Forrest Gump calls stupid plays, and it killed us.

by BW Smith on Nov 8, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Damnet. Beat me to it James.

The Panthers Lose 30-20

Let it be known, thou Panther Fans. We held the New Orleans Saints to 23 points. That fumble recovery at the end for a touchdown doesn’t count, we held did a tremendous job holding a dominant offense to just 23 points. I don’t care about the final score, I don’t care about it at all when it comes to the performance with Drew Brees. They did everything they could to win, our offense simply has to step up and put some points on the board.

They didn’t.

I can think of three major situations off the top of my head that killed this game for the Panthers. I’ll quickly list them tonight before I go rewatch the game tomarrow and see what else I see. Once more, do not blame this game on the defense. They did everything they could against the Saints, our offense simply couldn’t keep up because of a certain someone calling the plays. Anyway, I’ll go ahead and list those situations for you.

The first was near the end of the 3rd Quarter. We had spent an entire drive going up the field, and we were finally 1st and goal at the one yard line. The play is either going to be a FB Dive, a QB sneak, or Deangelo Williams right up the middle. Jake Delhomme tries to hand the ball off, bobbles it, and drops back for a 6 yard loss. I want to blame Jake, but at the same time Terrall Sutton just ran right by him, almost as if he didn’t know the ball was supposed to go to him. Both of the backs did that. Jake was trying to hand the ball off, and both backs blew by him to block for some invisible back behind him. Timeout or not, someone missed their assignment here, and it was not Jake Delhomme.

The 2nd, and probably most important situation, must be placed sorely on the shoulders of Jeff Davidson. His 4th Quarter playcalling was beyond pathetic, it was borderline insane. Here we stand, Deangelo Williams has already rushed for over 100 yards and 2 scores. It’s 2nd and 8 at the 48 yard line of the Saints with about 3 minutes to go, and he decides that it would be a wonderful idea to have Jake Delhomme throw the ball 3 times in a row. Dwayne Jarrett almost made a fantastic catch on 3rd down, but what was Jake throwing the ball for to begin with? It’s the 4th Quarter, and your running game is ready to rape. Run the damn ball! Feed the stud! I have a feeling we’ll be crying these things till the end of the year, but Jeff Davidson is still going to try to pound a round peg into a square hole and fail miserably.

The 3rd situation was the injury to Thomas Davis with 10:40 left in the game. That was a huge differential in the game that changed the entire outlook of the football game. With him out of the game, the Saints went into full ‘attack the fatass’ (Landon Johnson) mode and worked the left side of the Panthers defense, and Jon Beason and Na’il Diggs had to make up for Johnson being on the field by tackling the running back themselves. It was a very important part of the game that allowed the Saints to easily complete a few key 3rd downs that brought the Saints into field goal range to take the lead.

For those worried about Davis, he doesn’t look like he’s torn his ACL. He was walking without the aid of crutches or boots after the game, which is a very good sign. We’ll find out more tomarrow, but if he’s walking all over it then it’s probably not too bad.

I’ll probably have more next week. Right now, I’m plenty pissed. I shall post this comment without spell checking, and without checking my english! Blimy mate!

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Nov 8, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

PS:

I almost broke my TV today. It is currently on life support.

RIP Remote.

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Nov 8, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So...

Who is to blame Revshawn????????????

by jkp1516 on Nov 8, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The blame can be spread around, but I blame Jeff Davidson!

He is an all-out panzy! He has an entire timeout to pick a play on 1st and 1 late in the 3rd quarter, and someone STILL misses their assignment.

That play was a fullback dive. I can guarantee you it. It was a fullback dive, and Sutton missed his carry partly because Jake bobbled it, and partly because he didn’t know it was a play to him in the first place.

The 2nd play when they called the FB Dive again, should have been a run by Williams. He’s the hot hand, and we should have taken the man instead of the power back in that situation. Williams should have been given 2 more touches, instead of the stupid FB Dive followed by a pass play.

We run the ball into the endzone there, we win the game. Bottom line, cut and dry, end of story. Jeff Davidson is an ogre! A plague on our team! RAWR RAWR RAWR!

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Nov 8, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

We the fans of Carolina, are not amused

"Once again the trousers of evil are yanked down by the mocking hands of justice!"-Revshawn

by Revshawn on Nov 8, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I Blame EVERYONE...

Its very simple….Both the Offense and Defense in general are to blame…at the half we were up 17-6!!! The offense only scored 3 POINTS in the second half!!! The Defense also gave up 17!!! (Since the last TD was offensive fumble for TD) That’s how we lost in a nutshelll….We played lights out in the 1st half, and SUCKED in the 2nd half!! Simple as that, we were out-executed in the 2nd half…no need to blame anyone in particular, simply they outplayed our team in the 2nd half, and most importantly in the 4th Quarter…I PUT BLAME ON THE ENTIRE TEAM!!!

by jkp1516 on Nov 8, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

I for one think our defense played very well.. In the second half, when Davidson was ruining our offense, they kept us in the game by holding the Saints to field goals with few touchdowns. That;s a task in itself when you to consider what the Saints have been hailed as lately.

I lay the blame squarely upon one man, that being Jeff Davidson. I don’t care if we win every single game from here on out, I want to see that man go. He is an absolute horror to Carolina fans. Why on earth he tried for those deep balls I don’t know. It defies any logic that I can muster up.

At that point I honestly thought we were in position to win, and I still believe such. DeAngelo Williams was having a great day, not every play was a huge gain but he was gaining enough that, over all, he was moving chains. Averaging over 7 yards per carry, how do you only give Williams the ball 21 times when Delhomme is passing 30? Stewart wasn’t having a great day but Sutton did well on the three carries he got, averaging 5 yards per carry, why not utilize him more so then they did?

Point being Delhommme should have never attempted 30 passes. Of course, it’s easy to say now that the game is over but, Panther fans have been saying that for far too long now.

I still believe that Carolina could have easily chewed the clock down to well within one minute on the ground and punched in the TD to go up by four, instead of wasting multiple deep balls with Delhomme. All our defense would have had to do then is prevent a long ball from New Orleans as the clock killed itself. If I remember correctly, they were nearly out of time outs as was.

There is no guarantee that all would have went according to plan, or that New Orleans wouldn’t have gotten a late come back, but it sure as hell would have gave us better odds to end the game on top than below.

It sickens me the way Davidson handled that drive. I simply cannot fathom what he was possibly thinking. I want to see him gone and not a single moment is too soon. Honestly, I’m so disgusted right now I couldn’t care less if Carolina lest every game for the rest of this season if it meant Davidson was no longer our offensive coordinator.

I’m so ready to give up on this season because it feels like Davidson is inept at calling the right plays when it counts. Once again, disgusting. There was no reason to lose that game. I hate seeing other teams get freebies like that.

Too many games like this and I’m going to be a Buc’s fan. At least they suck because they’re rebuilding, not because their OC can’t call a good play to save his live.

That’s a joke by the way, I could never abandon the Panthers.

by D-Ranged1 on Nov 8, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Ya'll had a good game plan.

But your OC was deathly afraid to throw the ball early on and threw it too much later in the game. My opinion is that if you make that passing game a big deal, it puts even MORE pressure on your quarterback. Limiting Jake’s throws and showing you don’t have faith in him by rushing on 3rd and 8 does not build his confidence up . . . quite the opposite.

The Saints made adjustments to stop the run at halftime by adding more backside pursuit, which I’d say worked pretty well. At that point, Davidson should have been pounding the ball straight up the gut and setting up those 3rd and <5s. Do that and you manage the clock and the game.

People have it wrong, you don’t win the time of possession and keep Brees off the field, because it takes away his opportunity to score. Even if you take 10 minutes of a 15 minute quarter, you’re still giving him 5. That logic isn’t why it’s effective. The key is the less time he is on the field, the less chance he has to get into a rhythm, which he will eventually do if given enough opportunities.

Nothing hurts Brees more than a 7 minute drive by the opposing team, his offense going 3 and out, then watching another 7 minute drive for a touchdown. That puts your team up 14 and takes up an entire quarter. It also puts a ton of pressure on a quarterback who has sat for 15 minutes and has only thrown maybe 2 passes at best to that point.

In the end it was a very close game, and it’s going to be FAR closer when we go to Carolina. Good luck to ya’ll till then.

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by Hooahsaint on Nov 9, 2009 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks Hooah

Saints fans for the most part have been very classy when coming to visit our blog.

Trust us… we agree that the loss can be thrown on the shoulders of our pathetic Offensive Coordinator, who all season long has failed to make appropriate halftime adjustments.

by Tater596 on Nov 9, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame Jake for everything

For the poor play calling, the RB fumbles, the defense unraveling in the 2nd half… It’s ALL Jake’s fault. BECAUSE it puts abnormal pressure on everyone else when you have to be one dimensional, because you do not trust your QB.

If we had even a small amount of a passing game, then all these other guys would not have to always carry a load, to compensate for Jake.

on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city

by southtunnel on Nov 9, 2009 7:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Gotta agree with ST...

we are one dimensional and that is the issue. They stuck with the running game almost to a fault in the first half and when playing from behind they took chances on the pass but could not get it done. I believe that Davidson is limited because of Jake’s ability and it affects the entire team as well. To be competitive in the NFL, a team needs a balanced offense of running and passing or a really stout defense and special teams.

by Davejinxer on Nov 9, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

While you know I agree with you about Delhomme… a couple of his deep balls today should have been caught, particularly the one to Jarrett. It was perfectly thrown. Looked like he had holes in his hands.

by Tater596 on Nov 9, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

True...

Jake threw some nice passes and that was one. Not to beat up on Jake because he is just doing what he is asked but to be accurate on a consistent basis is just not happening for him and the Panthers need that from the QB position.

by Davejinxer on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't that Jarrett's first deep ball?

We shouldn’t have to rely on an unproven receiver to save the game.

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by southtunnel on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

It was his first deep ball

Too bad for him — he’d shown good hands on the other receptions he had this game — would have been a big step up for him, had he caught this one.

But I wouldn’t give up on him just yet. Even T.O. drops some of the long ones. The surprise to me was that he even got some separation from his defenders.

by bigdavis on Nov 9, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Very true

Fox seems to like to send just about anyone deep

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by southtunnel on Nov 9, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought you were being facetious at first ST

But you do make a good point. I will agree though that his deep balls were on-target just the receivers didn’t come down with it. Well Smitty gave up on the with one…why?

Yeah, its hard to imagine this team getting to the playoffs with Jake at QB now…

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by Jaxon on Nov 9, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

He lost it in the lights.

He said he didn’t know where it was, until it hit the ground.

by bigdavis on Nov 9, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You make a good point...

But passing the ball is what cost us the game late in the 4th quarter.. running would have greatly improved our chances and likely lead to a late go ahead touchdown for us to seal the win.

Although we agree Jake isn’t getting the job done, you’re saying we need pass more while I’m saying we need run more.

If we took another three and a half minutes on our “fluke” drive (the one where Davidson chose to throw it deep until we had to give it back), that would have left New Orleans with 30 seconds to go back down field and score. I’m not saying they would not have but it would have been much more difficult than just giving them the game.

We should have played Jake the game-manager, not Jake the inaccurate deep passer that we know he is. Though I have to agree with you guys, he was actually on spot this time.

by D-Ranged1 on Nov 9, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

not jake's fault

Jake does what is asked of him. Maybe I’m wrong or I missed something, but he has no turnovers in the last two games. I’m probably wrong, but I know he has fewer turnovers than Brees. He played at a level that we ask him to, and when he plays like he did in the second half, we usually win. If he played like that against Buffalo, we would’ve won. However, besides two D-Will TD runs, I think we averaged less than 3 yards per carry. On the Saints long drive that resulted in a FG, they ran the ball to where Thomas the Monster used to play until he got hurt. His injury changed their gameplan. They kept running to that side and getting first downs all the way down the field. There were a couple passes where it looked like Smitty and Jake were running two different plays, and then D-Will’s fumble happened cuz the ball was never secure in the first place. Those mistakes killed us, but the false starts didn’t help us either.

We have the talent to run the table and finish 11-5. I doubt anyone can argue that point. But the play calling, execution and penalties are doing us in. Against a sorry team, we could win playing like that, but not against a good team.

by usana_gaines on Nov 9, 2009 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

Agree it wasn't Jake's fault we lost this one

D-Will drops a TD pass at the goal line twice, and fumbles for their last TD. Jarrett played well most of the game, and made solid blocks on runs, but didn’t make the catch that could’ve made a big difference. The key play was 1st and goal, when Bernadeau bumps Jake, who can’t make the handoff, resulting in a loss, then settling for the FG – had Hoover been in there, we ram that 1st down run in there, and go up 11 — different outcome to the game. Two false starts on King, Gross allows two sacks — none of this reflects on Jake, who managed the game as best he could, given the plays he was assigned to execute.

Bad combination of events, including the 2 missed assignments by Marshall, which resulted in big gains, including one TD. We held their rushers to minimal damage, and — but for the 3 long passes, Brees didn’t match his usual output. Blown coverage in the secondary to blame for those.

A lot of talk blaming the coaches, but I gotta give them this — they started out with a good game plan, and I doubt ANYBODY suspected that they were using Tyrell Sutton as the starting FB — the kid played great; had 3 good runs, caught a pass, and blocked guys 80 lbs heavier with authority (better than Fiammetta has!) I wouldn’t so much level blame at the OC for calling passes, when at least 3 of those were either dropped (D-Will’s) or should’ve been caught (Jarrett.) Had they been caught, Jake’s line would’ve read 20/30, 2 TD’s, no INT’s, about 250 yds.

We played an unbeaten team even, coulda/shoulda won it, recorded 3 more FD’s, controlled TOP, and all this with 4 starters out, and our star LB out most of the 4th quarter. Nothing to be ashamed of (as there was in the Bills game.)

by bigdavis on Nov 9, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I Agree

Am I the only one that saw the blown pass interference call on the last drive. If the stipud refs would have call pass interference on the saints when delhomme threw a deep pass up the middle to Jeff King they would have been down to the twenty. I mean the man got rwped right there on the field and nobody thought they should maybe consider throwing a flag but I did forget that we were in the Superdome and I guess those things do get missed from time to time (how Convenient).The score should have bee 27-23 Carolina. Or at least 23-23

by OtherJake on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I saw a couple too

I’ll have to look again on the tape to get the specifics but yes, there was at least one play where we were hit early

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by Jaxon on Nov 9, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You are missing the point

You can’t blame this on DeAngelo. Him and Stewart are being asked to run on all 3 downs, and even 3rd and longs… which they are often converting! But everyone knows we can’t throw, so DWill and Stew constantly have to face 8+ man boxes… They constantly have 3 or 4 guys all over them, poking the ball from every angle, all game long, just because we can’t throw!

I don’t think any back in the league would be performing better under these circumstances.

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by southtunnel on Nov 9, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

URFA

Okay, we could win out and even win the division, but I doubt it. I doubt I could find anyone who truly believes that. It’s possible that we have a new coach come the last week of February. So I think Hurney and company need to really dig in and figure out what to do, even if Hurney is gonna be gone. There is a nice list of guys who will be potential unrestricted FAs, and the draft is gonna be deep in QBs, and there are some good receivers available. I think we should sign Peppers before 1 Feb, or let him go altogether. Then we move on to FAs. Abrayo, Wilfork and Pickett should be available as DTs. They play NT in 3-4 schemes, but could do well next to Kemo in our 4-3. Kampman might be available for a nice price as he could use a move back to the 4-3. I like bringing in a couple QBs to compete, like Mike Vick, but I think we’ll draft a QB with our first pick, whenever that might be. The development of Jarrett and Barnidge will determine how high we pick a WR, or if we go after a WR FA like Antonio Bryant or Andrew Walter. It is possible that Smitty is a couple more non-factor games away from demanding a trade also. I’m all for bringing in a couple OL to compete as well.

There’s a lot to think about, but we gotta get it done.

by usana_gaines on Nov 9, 2009 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Peter King's Fine Fifteen

14. Carolina (3-5). In the last eight days, they won in Arizona and — some say — should have won at New Orleans.

by usana_gaines on Nov 9, 2009 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

I saw that also...

Surprised the hell out of me that he’d actually recognize the Panthers there.

Oh and he mentioned -“John Fox is going nowhere. Just a gut feeling, but as his team comes back to normal, that’s how I see it.”

Twice in one article and we don’t have Favre or Brady.

by Scrantsj on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm ok with Fox...

except the conservativeness at times. The concern I have is that he and Jake are a package deal and we would have to sit through this again for the 2010 season.

by Davejinxer on Nov 9, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully...

If he stays, he will at least bring in competition and possibly a QB draft pick to go against Jake. That is if they are a package deal.

by Scrantsj on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised

Yes. we played NO tougher than anyone this season (except maybe Miami), but we are still 3-5. There are no moral victories in the NFL. You either won, or you lost.

by Tater596 on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Jake's Fault?

Yeah, he has limited turnovers the past few games, but look at the high sailing passes to recievers that should have been sure completions. If they are able to make a great catch (TE Barnadge), they are put in a position where stretching the play for more yards is practically impossible.

Yeah, maybe Deangelo needs to make that catch in the end zone, but again, he was open enough to put it in his gut, not that back shoulder bullet- there was no need to throw that with that kind of zip, and to back shoulder it. Jake has no touch, and most of his passes look more out of panic, than any real feel for any kind of touch.

Early in the second half he threw a check down to Deangelo that looked like a shot put, as if he was telling himself not to “overthrow”.

Also, Playcalling sucks. I’m going to have to go on bloodpressure meds the rest of the season! Looking at that play at the 2, looked to me like it was supposed to go to Deangelo, not the FB, but the FB’s shoulder got a piece of the ball, knocking it out of Jake’s hands- didn’t look like he was trying to take it, nor Jake was trying to hand it off to him. Certainly we cuold’ve followed up with something a little better than what we did.
With the defense tight at the goal line, why would you try to throw the quick hit? that could’ve easily been a looooong pick-6. Thank God it was just knocked down…

by toonman on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Saints

are a pretty good team, as much as I hate to admit. We played a good team and they matched us and on the day they got the win. Credit to them.

As far as the Panthers go, I think that Fox and company…. and the fans have to realize that D-Will has become the leader of this offense. And I think D-Will has to realize that too. He is too good to be dropping that pass and he is too good to be fumbling at inside our 5.

As you can see I am huge D-Will fan and I expect him to carry the team a little more. Hopefully, we will see it happen the simple way – more carries when we are ahead in the game.

Of course there will be days when Beef Stew will have to step up. But for now we should let D-Will and the O-line carry the offense.

by pieterzen on Nov 9, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

How's that?

To me, it was Munnerlin’s fault for us being in that position — he should’ve made the fair catch around the 10.

by bigdavis on Nov 9, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If we had never attempted those deep balls, the entire outcome would have been different. We would have walked away 27-23 at best, 20-23 at worst, or 23-23 going into OT most likely.

by D-Ranged1 on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Who is to blame

I blame the Saints. If they don’t finish 8-8 last year (five loses by a TD or less) with 19 starters on injured reserve, they don’t get the eaiser schedule this year. That includes two games against the defending division winning Panthers, a team that is headed in the wrong direction. Fox is a good coach but his time has passed. The Panthers need some new faces across the board.

by central scrutinizer on Nov 9, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

I am nervous about replacing Fox, if it is not with someone like Cowher

Too many teams have failed coaching experiments.

Jake on the other hand I am all for booting, get anybody in here, please.

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by southtunnel on Nov 9, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

A little ticked today about the loss.....

…so please pardon my criticism on the playcalling. It cost us the game….

So, you’ve held the Saints to 6 points in the first half. You’ve done it by grinding it out on the ground, chewing up the clock to limit their on-field time, and added a nice dose of heavy defense. Good job going into the half, you lead 17 – 6. The gameplan is working nicely.

You open up the 3rd quarter and immediately give up a touchdown, 17-13. In a way, no problem you still lead by 4, against the Saints. Now is the PERFECT time to introduce the shock and awe that IS our virulent passing attack! … (?!?) Of the first 8 plays, You call 3 run plays to 5 pass plays. Um…Why?… 2 of those 5 pass plays are on 3rd and 5, and 3rd and 1. Really? Pass? 3rd down with 1 yard to go for a fresh set of downs and you’re going to PASS it? Okay, luckily enough they both worked out, but again, WHY are you starting to rely on the pass right now? You regroup – no prob – pass on 1st, run on 2nd & 3rd – you’re moving the chains and chewing the clock. Atta boy! You grind almost 8 ½ minutes off the clock, get it to the 1 yard line with a fresh set of downs, and are ready to score…. then the worm turned. Delhomme looks clueless, confused, and clearly not on the same page. He burns a timeout! (Okay that’s going to come back to haunt us, and it did.) On the sidelines he looks like he’s cracking under the pressure. No prob Jake, just hand the ball off. 1st down, he muffs the handoff and has to fall on it. Minus 6 yds. (…great…) 2nd down, run for 1 yd. (Why Sutton was running it rather than the stalwart "DT" I do not know). 3rd and 6, let’s see….pass it. (???) Yeah….incomplete… too late getting it there, off target and too much zip to a Running Back. Nice. We get 3 pts anyway, then surrender another touchdown to tie the game heading into the 4th.

No prob. Game ON. Just leave that little experiment with our passing attack alone and we’ll be fine. Playing the Saints right now is NOT the time to diddle with unleashing our aerial assault or trying to rebuild someone’s passing confidence. Just win the damn game. Leave those types of things for when we play the Buc’s. Seriously. Just win the damn game.

So you go into the 4th quarter, tied with the Saints at 20. Not a bad place to be, especially since you get the first possession of the 4th quarter. Clock starts at 15:00, you start 1-10 at the 20. All is normal. All is stable. Remember the gameplan – grind it out on the ground and chew up the clock.

1st possession, you just can’t let go of that passing game can you? 2 run plays to 5 pass plays. 3 ½ minutes later, punt it away. Nice. Give New Orleans the ball back with plenty of time.
Our defense holds them to 3pts. Way to go Guys! Now, just win the damn game. There’s 4:36 on the clock, you’ve got the ball, 1-10 on the 20. Unfortunately, you’re going to have to use some of that passing game now. SOME of the passing game…. Not ALL… remember: pass on 1st, run on 2nd & 3rd – keep the chains moving. You still have 2 timeouts available if you want to mix it up a little. A LITTLE, not a lot! This is "do-able", you’re only down by 3. So here we go, 1st and 10 from the 20: You call… 2 run plays to 5 Pass plays… (?!?), the last of which is a sack, fumble, turnover to New Orleans mid-field. Damn! Are you not getting it?! LEAVE THE PASSING GAME ALONE!
A heavy dose of defense forces them to punt it back to us, but at the cost of: any remaining timeouts, horrible field position, very little time remaining with 2:17 left on the clock, momentum for your opponent – the Saints, an unbeaten team who now has you pinned to your own 2 yard line. On a positive note, you only need to get it in Kasay’s range to send it to overtime and regroup.
You now have the ball starting on your own 2 yard line. You’re pinned. 1st and 10 from the 2…. You remember that "Run" thingy…. Unfortunately, the RB fumbles and it’s recovered by the Saints and returned for a touchdown.
You are now down by 10 at the 2:00 warning. How’s that obsession with the passing game doing? Oh yeah… remember that wasted timeout in the 3rd quarter because Jake didn’t have his head on straight? It would be nice to have that back right now wouldn’t it? No can do. You’ve boxed yourself in, nicely. The onside kick is now part of the equation, and you’re going to NEED to rely on that dysfunctional passing game you’ve been so obsessed with. Nice.
You start the final death march 1-10 from your own 23 with 2:00 on the clock and no timeouts. You call 6 pass plays and 1 run(?) to move the ball across field, down to the 2 yard line. Threatening to score, but Delhomme has to burn a down to stop the clock by spiking the ball. (That run play for 6 yards up the middle, with no timeouts was pure genius! – it burned 15 seconds off the clock and cost a down.) Mental Note – "It’s okay to work the sidelines, getting out of bounds to stop the clock during your 2 minute drills". So now you’re 3rd and goal on the 2 yard line. You need 2 scores for overtime. It doesn’t matter what order they come in because either way, without the onside kick, you lose this game. You need 2 yards. Playcall: Pass. Result: Incomplete. 4th and 2. Do you take the 3pts, knowing the order of the points doesn’t matter? Nope. Emotion gets the better of you and you try to force the Touchdown. At this point, it’s okay to run the ball if you’ve decided to go for it. Failure on this next play is game over, regardless. Play call: Pass (?) Result: Incomplete, lights out.
How’d that passing game work for you?

by 12th_Man_Fan on Nov 9, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

I really think our passive gameplan after the Panthers got out to the 14-0 lead

Was what hurt us the most. Yes, we’re a smash mouth team that likes to run it down the opponent’s throat, but there were times when I thought throwing the ball would not be a bad idea even with Jake behind center. Jarrett, Smith and Barnidge did not get enough touches imo. Not only that, but now Williams and Stewart seem to have trouble securing the ball as of late.

All I know is that while the early lead was great and all, I had this sick feeling in me that the excitement would soon drain out and it did unfortunately.

by SmithnCompany on Nov 9, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions  

Playaction

Where the heck was that the entire game?

by Flowing Willow on Nov 10, 2009 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

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